| Author | Message | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 683 Registered: 1-2011 |
How do they know? And what is practical use of it? | ||
| La_sparky (La_sparky)
New member Username: La_sparky Post Number: 295 Registered: 10-2008 |
they=HAM? HAF? combination of F and M? it=object? tangible? emotion? idea? invention? information? Do they know? Do they know specific information about it? Relevant how they found out whatever it is that they know? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 685 Registered: 1-2011 |
La Sparky: they=HAM? HAF? combination of F and M? unknown and irrelevant, probably the last it=object? tangible? emotion? idea? invention? information? this Do they know? yes Do they know specific information about it? see above, it is an information itself Relevant how they found out whatever it is that they know? I don't know how they found out. And that's what the puzzle is about | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4706 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is this about a science experiment? Are "they" scientists? A specific type of scientists? If so, LTPF list of disciplines (physicists, astronomers, biologists, etc). | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1437 Registered: 9-2009 |
Their nationality relevant? Their religion? Are "they" a couple of persons? 3? 10? More than 10? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 315 Registered: 2-2011 |
is this information widely known by the general public? or just a few knowledgeable people? would it be difficult to prove? impossible? eg something which has never happened before? a condition or circumstance difficult to recreate? something infintessimally small? a very long way away? way back in time? in the future? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 687 Registered: 1-2011 |
JenBurdoo: Is this about a science experiment? unknown Are "they" scientists? probably yes A specific type of scientists? If so, LTPF list of disciplines (physicists, astronomers, biologists, etc). chemists I think Rbruma: Their nationality relevant? Their religion? no to both Are "they" a couple of persons? 3? 10? More than 10? unknown number of scientists Shez: is this information widely known by the general public? can be easily found in the Internet for example or just a few knowledgeable people? would it be difficult to prove? that is what I wonder in the puzzle statement impossible? ditto eg something which has never happened before? a condition or circumstance difficult to recreate? something infintessimally small? a very long way away? way back in time? in the future? no to the rest | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 326 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it something which could only be proved by killing someone? or by doing extensive damage? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 692 Registered: 1-2011 |
Shez: is it something which could only be proved by killing someone? literally yes, but it may be misleading or by doing extensive damage? just human death | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 328 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it this thing about seeing a light at the end of a tunnel just as you die? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1439 Registered: 9-2009 |
Chemist as in : a specialist in chemistry? A pharmacist? An alchemist? Are they specialists in explosives? In medicines? | ||
| Cupofsun1 (Cupofsun1)
New member Username: Cupofsun1 Post Number: 62 Registered: 11-2010 |
Near death experiences relevant? That experiment where they put colored shapes on a shelf above the operating table so that if someone claimed they went out of body they would be questioned as to what they had seen? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 334 Registered: 2-2011 |
or how your whole life is supposed to pass before your eyes? is it that they know the chemical breakdown of the human body? is it the production of a particular substance at the point of death? or is it what happens to someone just as they die from inhaling/ingesting/otherwise taking into the body a particular substance? it's not that fungus that destroys the organs is it? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 700 Registered: 1-2011 |
Shez: is it this thing about seeing a light at the end of a tunnel just as you die? no Rbruma: Chemist as in : a specialist in chemistry? this A pharmacist? An alchemist? Are they specialists in explosives? In medicines? neither CupOfSun: Near death experiences relevant? no That experiment where they put colored shapes on a shelf above the operating table so that if someone claimed they went out of body they would be questioned as to what they had seen? so no Shez: or how your whole life is supposed to pass before your eyes? no is it that they know the chemical breakdown of the human body? is it the production of a particular substance at the point of death? no to both or is it what happens to someone just as they die from inhaling/ingesting/otherwise taking into the body a particular substance? YES to inhaling substance, no to the rest it's not that fungus that destroys the organs is it? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 337 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the substance a gas? powder? other?? is it a recreational drug? is it a poison gas used in warfare? a gas only poisonous because of the absence of oxygen? carbon monoxide? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 701 Registered: 1-2011 |
Shez: is the substance a gas? this powder? other?? is it a recreational drug? no is it a poison gas used in warfare? yes indeed a gas only poisonous because of the absence of oxygen? carbon monoxide? so no to the rest | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 842 Registered: 12-2010 |
Gas chambers relevant? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 339 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the thing they know what it feels like to be gassed with this gas? or what one would experience in other ways? hallucinations? taste? smell? do they think that the brain/consciousness closes down at an early stage? do they think it is pain-free? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12647 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it chlorine gas? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 703 Registered: 1-2011 |
Doriana: Gas chambers relevant? no Shez: is the thing they know what it feels like to be gassed with this gas? or what one would experience in other ways? hallucinations? taste? smell? THIS do they think that the brain/consciousness closes down at an early stage? do they think it is pain-free? no to these Balin: Is it chlorine gas? no Now the pieces just need to be put together. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 340 Registered: 2-2011 |
so scientists believe that a certain poisonous gas has a particular smell, but they can't know that because someone discovering that would then be dead? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 706 Registered: 1-2011 |
Shez: so scientists believe that a certain poisonous gas has a particular smell, but they can't know that because someone discovering that would then be dead? yes, that's it. ******SPOILER******** Last week there was a leak in an industrial factory in my city and the approx. 15 litres of poisonous battle gas went to the atmosphere. When the news was announced, all newspapers gave the message, that the gas is highly poisonous, a 0,1g in one cubic metre of air can kill a human. Then it was written that the gas smells like freshly mowed grass. And then I started wondering - how could anybody learn it? And even if someone could, what is the practical use of it, given that if I was able to smell it, I would be dead in a while? Thanks to everybody who contributed and congratulations to Shez for solving. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 350 Registered: 2-2011 |
thanks redwine, I found this quite intriguing |
