| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6513 Registered: 8-2001 |
The dreadful pun in this title arises from that fact that there is a scrund about Thailand that could not be a scrund about any other country. How come? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12692 Registered: 4-2010 |
Any cities in Thailand relevant? Bangkok? Thai food relevant? Thais? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6514 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12692 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 9:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Any cities in Thailand relevant?no Bangkok? no Thai food relevant? no Thais? no | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 910 Registered: 9-2010 |
Relevant that it sounds like Taiwan? Do people mix it up? Or is it related to the pronounciation? Do people pronounce it Thailand with the Th being pronounced as in Thing? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6515 Registered: 8-2001 |
Relevant that it sounds like Taiwan? no Do people mix it up? irrel Or is it related to the pronounciation? yope Do people pronounce it Thailand with the Th being pronounced as in Thing irrel | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 852 Registered: 12-2010 |
Do you think this is a common scrund? Did you have it yourself? Is the name "Thailand" itself relevant? Would it work with a different name? Are any geographical features relevant? Its location? Languages? History? Tourism? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2441 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is Siam relevant? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3355 Registered: 9-2010 |
I heard that Thailand means "land of the free" because they have never been ruled over by any other country. Relevant? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 857 Registered: 12-2010 |
2004 tsunami relevant? Any other natural disasters? Animals or plants relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6517 Registered: 8-2001 |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 852 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 11:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Do you think this is a common scrund? moderatelyDid you have it yourself? yes Is the name "Thailand" itself relevant? no Would it work with a different name? yes Are any geographical features relevant? no Its location? no Languages? yes History? noTourism? no Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2441 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 2:19 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is Siam relevant? yes Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3355 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 1:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I heard that Thailand means "land of the free" because they have never been ruled over by any other country. Relevant? no Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 857 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 4:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) 2004 tsunami relevant? no Any other natural disasters? no Animals or plants relevant? no | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2444 Registered: 7-2009 |
it's interesting that Siam is relevant but Thailand's history isn't The language that is relevant...what is spoken in modern Thailand? What was spoken in Siam? What someone thinks is the language of Thailand, but isn't? Is Siamese relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6518 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2444 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 5:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) it's interesting that Siam is relevant but Thailand's history isn'tStick with the puzzle & you'll find out why! The language that is relevant...what is spoken in modern Thailand? yesWhat was spoken in Siam? yes What someone thinks is the language of Thailand, but isn't? yopeIs Siamese relevant? yes. I'm assuming that the name change for the country did not change the country's native language.Am I mistaken? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 871 Registered: 12-2010 |
Thai script relevant? Language families relevant? Lao language relevant? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2448 Registered: 7-2009 |
I'm assuming that the name change for the country did not change the country's native language.Am I mistaken? I think you're right. That's my understanding, anyway, though of course I am no expert | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 387 Registered: 8-2001 |
I'm assuming that the name change for the country did not change the country's native language.Am I mistaken? From what I can tell, they spoke Thai before the name change(s) and still do... Does this have anything to do with Chang and Ang (who were not, in fact, Siamese...or Thai)? Anything to do with confusion around a word or name that sounds like it should be related to "Siam" but is not? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6519 Registered: 8-2001 |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 871 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 7:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Thai script relevant? Language families relevant? Lao language relevant? Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2448 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I'm assuming that the name change for the country did not change the country's native language.Am I mistaken? I think you're right. That's my understanding, anyway, though of course I am no expert Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 387 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 9:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I'm assuming that the name change for the country did not change the country's native language.Am I mistaken? From what I can tell, they spoke Thai before the name change(s) and still do... Does this have anything to do with Chang and Ang (who were not, in fact, Siamese...or Thai)? no Anything to do with confusion around a word or name that sounds like it should be related to "Siam" but is not? yesish | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2458 Registered: 7-2009 |
Anything to do with "Siamese" twins? Siamese cats? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 939 Registered: 12-2010 |
Nimue, you forgot to answer my questions ): | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 455 Registered: 8-2001 |
Misconception about something with Siam in the name? Siamese? Totally out of left field: Is tea relevant? Sesame? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6522 Registered: 8-2001 |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 871 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 7:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Thai script relevant? Language families relevant? Lao language relevant? no to all | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6523 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2458 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 9:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Anything to do with "Siamese" twins? no Siamese cats? no Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 939 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 9:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Nimue, you forgot to answer my questions ): Rectified, with my (humble) apologies Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 455 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 11:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Misconception about something with Siam in the name? yope or noish Siamese? no Totally out of left field: Is tea relevant?no Sesame? no | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2461 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it about the history of the language? Pronunciation? What other languages it's similar to? The way it's written? The way it's spoken? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 484 Registered: 8-2001 |
Anything about fish relevant? Is this misconception more common among certain people? English-speakers? Nationality important? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6524 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2461 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Friday, April 01, 2011 - 12:04 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it about the history of the language? noPronunciation? yope What other languages it's similar to? no The way it's written? no The way it's spoken? yesish Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 484 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Friday, April 01, 2011 - 12:25 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Anything about fish relevant? Is this misconception more common among certain people? yes English-speakers? yes Nationality important?Only insofar as it is relwvant to being a speaker of English & not being a Thailander | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 505 Registered: 8-2001 |
I have no clue on this one, but I really want Phuket to be relevant. Is it? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6525 Registered: 8-2001 |
Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 505 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2011 - 3:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I have no clue on this one, but I really want Phuket to be relevant. Is it Unfortunately not. (Is that a real Thai word??) | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2474 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it a specific word or group of words that is relevant? Or the language in general? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 507 Registered: 8-2001 |
It is! In fact, it's a real place in Thailand. It popped to mind as English speakers tend to hesitate saying it until they heard someone else say it. It's POO-ket. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 508 Registered: 8-2001 |
I have no clue on this one, but I really want Phuket to be relevant. Is it? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6526 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2474 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2011 - 7:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it a specific word or group of words that is relevant? yes Or the language in general? no Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 507 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2011 - 11:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) It is! In fact, it's a real place in Thailand. It popped to mind as English speakers tend to hesitate saying it until they heard someone else say it. It's POO-ket. Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 508 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2011 - 11:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I have no clue on this one, but I really want Phuket to be relevant. Is it? As I already said it isn't. Sorry! | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6529 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: You've established that a specific word or group or words is relevant & also that Siam is relevant. So draw the obvious conclusion & proceed from there. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3418 Registered: 9-2010 |
Siamese: Cats? Twins? Siamesing? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6531 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3418 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 11:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Siamese: Cats? Twins? Siamesing? No to all. You're overlooking the REALLY obvious word!! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3420 Registered: 9-2010 |
King of Siam (like in "The King and I" or "Anna and the King")? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 511 Registered: 8-2001 |
I'm trying but I'm running out of ideas here. Sorry for the double post re: Phuket. Not sure what happened there. You missed answering this one last time: Are fish relevant? Are any animals relevant? Any food relevant? The word "Siamese" is not relevant? But "Siam" is? The really obvious word: (the somewhat offensive) Oriental? Asian? Is it a word that sounds like Siam? Is Priam relevant? (not that references to Trojan history would be that obvious) | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 460 Registered: 2-2011 |
Thai? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3423 Registered: 9-2010 |
*facepalm* Bet that's it... | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6532 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3420 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 2:54 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) King of Siam (like in "The King and I" or "Anna and the King")? no Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 511 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 3:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I'm trying but I'm running out of ideas here. Sorry for the double post re: Phuket. Not sure what happened there. You missed answering this one last time: Are fish relevant? no Are any animals relevant? yesish Any food relevant? no The word "Siamese" is not relevant? no But "Siam" is? yes The really obvious word: (the somewhat offensive) Oriental? no Asian? no Is it a word that sounds like Siam? it IS 'Siam' Is Priam relevant? (not that references to Trojan history would be that obvious) no Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 460 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Thai? Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3423 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 3:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) *facepalm* Bet that's it... no | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1051 Registered: 12-2010 |
So... the scrund is related to the pronunciation of "Siam" in English, correct? merriam-webster.com pronounces it "sai-AM". Do people think it's pronounced differently? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6538 Registered: 8-2001 |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1051 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 11:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So... the scrund is related to the pronunciation of "Siam" in English, correct? merriam-webster.com pronounces it "sai-AM". Do people think it's pronounced differently? For the scrund to work, 'Siam' has to be pronounced 'sigh am.' | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1055 Registered: 12-2010 |
Do people misunderstand it as something else? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 536 Registered: 8-2001 |
Something like "I am"? Fry ham? Thy ram? Fly jam? As the puzzle degenerates into a very illiterate version of Dr. Suess... | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6541 Registered: 8-2001 |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1055 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 11:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Do people misunderstand it as something else? yes Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 536 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 6:20 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Something like "I am"? yes Fry ham? no Thy ram? no Fly jam? no As the puzzle degenerates into a very illiterate version of Dr. Suess... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12960 Registered: 4-2010 |
yeS I AM? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6543 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12960 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 9:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) yeS I AM? No, it's an error about a particular aspect of Thailand | ||
| Sapir (Sapir)
New member Username: Sapir Post Number: 4 Registered: 4-2011 |
Has to do with historical ethnic diversity/purity and British/French geopolitical gerrymandering? Thai-land as in tie-land from (Chinese)Xi-An (see-yam) -> Siam(sigh-am) -> Thai[tie]land? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6546 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sapir (Sapir) New member Username: Sapir Post Number: 4 Registered: 4-2011 Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 6:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Has to do with historical ethnic diversity/purity and British/French geopolitical gerrymandering? no Thai-land as in tie-land from (Chinese)Xi-An (see-yam) -> Siam(sigh-am) -> Thai[tie]land? no | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 1606 Registered: 6-2008 |
So to recap, mishearing "Siam" as something else leads certain people to develop an incorrect belief about Thailand? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6564 Registered: 8-2001 |
Biograd (Biograd) New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 1606 Registered: 6-2008 Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 12:18 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So to recap, mishearing "Siam" as something else leads certain people to develop an incorrect belief about Thailand?noish! | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 1615 Registered: 6-2008 |
Do they not develop an incorrect belief about Thailand? Or is it rather the opposite, that having an incorrect belief about Thailand causes them to mishear the word "Siam"? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6573 Registered: 8-2001 |
Biograd (Biograd) New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 1615 Registered: 6-2008 Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 7:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Do they not develop an incorrect belief about Thailand? yesOr is it rather the opposite, that having an incorrect belief about Thailand causes them to mishear the word "Siam"? no | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 584 Registered: 8-2001 |
So they DO NOT develop an incorrect belief about Thailand? But your puzzle statement says there is a scrund about Thailand? So, do they somehow believe something without ever "Developing" that belief? A belief about Siam? Is the belief about: Geography? Politics? Language? The appearance of the people? The behavior of the people? The history of the country? History of the region? Location on the globe? Plants or animals of the area? Food or cuisine? Music? Art? Literature? Relations to Europe or the US? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6587 Registered: 8-2001 |
Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 584 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 4:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So they DO NOT develop an incorrect belief about Thailand? But your puzzle statement says there is a scrund about Thailand? So, do they somehow believe something without ever "Developing" that belief? They DO develop an incorrect belief about Thailand A belief about Siam? yes Is the belief about: Geography? no Politics? no Language? yes The appearance of the people? no The behavior of the people? yope The history of the country? noish History of the region?see previous answer Location on the globe? no Plants or animals of the area? no Food or cuisine? no Music? yes Art? no Literature? no Relations to Europe no or the US? noish | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 611 Registered: 8-2001 |
Behavior of Thai musicians? The sound of Thai music? Would the phrasing "the music of Siam" lead to the misunderstanding? But not "Siamese Music"? Or "Thai music"? Kind of music relevant? Instrumental? With vocals? Popular music? Classical? Used in worship? Temples? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2526 Registered: 7-2009 |
I keep getting the song from Lady and the Tramp that the cats sing ("I am Siamese if you please...") stuck in my head every time I look at this puzzle. Is it at all relevant? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3544 Registered: 9-2010 |
It's "We" are Siamese, Noel, lol. Two cats, remember? =D "We are Siamese if you please; We are Siamese if you don't please; Now we looking over our new domicile; If we like we maybe stay for quite a while." (insert meowing and purring as required, as I forget which goes where) Is "Engrish" (as TVTropes calls it) relevant? Broken English? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6597 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3544 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Monday, April 18, 2011 - 5:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) It's "We" are Siamese, Noel, lol. Two cats, remember? =D "We are Siamese if you please; We are Siamese if you don't please; Now we looking over our new domicile; If we like we maybe stay for quite a while." (insert meowing and purring as required, as I forget which goes where) This delightful song is irrel Is "Engrish" (as TVTropes calls it) relevant? noBroken English? no | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 619 Registered: 8-2001 |
*cough* It looks like you missed my Questions. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2529 Registered: 7-2009 |
lol, oops | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6600 Registered: 8-2001 |
Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 611 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Monday, April 18, 2011 - 3:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Behavior of Thai musicians? no The sound of Thai music? yope Would the phrasing "the music of Siam" lead to the misunderstanding? no But not "Siamese Music"? no Or "Thai music"? no Kind of music relevant? yes Instrumental?see below With vocals? yes Popular music? not really Classical? ditto Used in worship? no Temples? no Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2526 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Monday, April 18, 2011 - 5:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I keep getting the song from Lady and the Tramp that the cats sing ("I am Siamese if you please...") stuck in my head every time I look at this puzzle. Is it at all relevant? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6601 Registered: 8-2001 |
Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 619 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Monday, April 18, 2011 - 6:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) *cough* It looks like you missed my Questions. Rectified, with my apologies | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 634 Registered: 8-2001 |
Thank you! :P Music with vocals that is neither popular or classical... Traditional? Used in commericials? The national anthem? Orchestral? Are live instruments involved? Kareoke relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6605 Registered: 8-2001 |
Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 634 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Monday, April 18, 2011 - 9:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Thank you! :P Music with vocals that is neither popular or classical... Traditional?no Used in commericials? no The national anthem? YES!!!!! Orchestral? see above Are live instruments involved?see above Kareoke relevant? no | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3554 Registered: 9-2010 |
Phleng Chat Thai, then? Or Phleng Sansoen Phra Barami, used before 1932 and still the royal anthem? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 639 Registered: 8-2001 |
OMG, Kaylee - did you just know that or did you look it up?? Don't tell me. Just let me amazed! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3558 Registered: 9-2010 |
Wikipedia. *blushes* *tells you anyway* | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 1624 Registered: 6-2008 |
Phleng Chat Thai Is that the sound of a Siamese cat clearing his throat? Anyway, so do they mishear the lyrics of the national anthem? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6609 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3554 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Monday, April 18, 2011 - 10:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Phleng Chat Thai, then? Or Phleng Sansoen Phra Barami, used before 1932 and still the royal anthem? Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 639 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 12:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) OMG, Kaylee - did you just know that or did you look it up?? Don't tell me. Just let me amazed! Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3558 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 12:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Wikipedia. *blushes* *tells you anyway* Biograd (Biograd) New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 1624 Registered: 6-2008 Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 12:45 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Phleng Chat Thai Is that the sound of a Siamese cat clearing his throat? No, but what a nice thought! Anyway, so do they mishear the lyrics of the national anthem? No, but you're very ORT | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 656 Registered: 8-2001 |
*sigh* You missed Kaylee's questions...which named the two national anthems she could find. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6611 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3554 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Monday, April 18, 2011 - 10:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Phleng Chat Thai, then? Or Phleng Sansoen Phra Barami, used before 1932 and still the royal anthem? No...HINT: It's not about any ACTUAL national anthem; it's a scrund what the national anthem is like | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6612 Registered: 8-2001 |
Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 656 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 9:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) *sigh* You missed Kaylee's questions...which named the two national anthems she could find. Rectified (see above) with my apologoies, of course! | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2535 Registered: 7-2009 |
Does the national anthem scrund that people think is the national anthem have "Siam" in the title? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6617 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2535 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 9:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does the national anthem scrund that people think is the national anthem have "Siam" in the title?The scrund I had involved 'Siam' in the first line but it could have been in the title too But the scrund isn't just that 'Siam' was in the first line; that wouldn't be very interesting. It's that someone told me that the first line was actually. . . . | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3564 Registered: 9-2010 |
"We are Siamese if you please"? lolol... (and you are very much forgiven :-D) | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 665 Registered: 8-2001 |
"We are Siam, Siam we am"? (Because that would make an awesome opening line and yet make no sense since logically the anthem is going to be in Thai...) | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6628 Registered: 8-2001 |
Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 665 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 2:44 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) "We are Siam, Siam we am"? no, but you're ORT (Because that would make an awesome opening line and yet make no sense since logically the anthem is going to be in Thai...)You're overlooking a related possibility | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2547 Registered: 7-2009 |
I am Siam? Siam, I am? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 704 Registered: 8-2001 |
The related possibility.... You thought the anthem was in English? You thought the Siamese language (Thai?) involved saying the word "Siam" a lot? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6633 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2547 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 12:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I am Siam? Siam, I am?Precisely what questions are you asking here? Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 704 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 1:50 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) The related possibility.... You thought the anthem was in English? no You thought the Siamese language (Thai?) involved saying the word "Siam" a lot? no--now you're OWT (on the wrong track) | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 724 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is it relevant I have the song "Instanbul (Not Constantinople)" stuck in my head? Um, you thought the first line was: "We are Thailand, we were Siam"? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2549 Registered: 7-2009 |
I was asking whether either of those lines was the first line. Sorry for not clarifying earlier. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6637 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2549 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 7:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I was asking whether either of those lines was the first line. neither isSorry for not clarifying earlier. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 745 Registered: 8-2001 |
You missed my questions...again. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6648 Registered: 8-2001 |
Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 724 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 6:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it relevant I have the song "Instanbul (Not Constantinople)" stuck in my head? no, but now you've got it stuck in mine!! Um, you thought the first line was: "We are Thailand, we were Siam"? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6649 Registered: 8-2001 |
Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 745 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 12:48 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) You missed my questions...again. Rectified. . .again. With my apologies. . .again. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 793 Registered: 8-2001 |
Could we have a hint? I'm utterly out of ideas on this one. We seem to be down to just guessing random combinations of words. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6661 Registered: 8-2001 |
Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 793 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 12:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Could we have a hint? I'm utterly out of ideas on this one. We seem to be down to just guessing random combinations of words. The scrund may have originated as a joke--& it is funny, Homonyms are involved--a whole homonynous sentence, in fact) | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2578 Registered: 7-2009 |
Does it contain any of the following words: Sigh? I? Am? Sai? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6665 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2578 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 11:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does it contain any of the following words: Sigh? no I? yes Am? yes Sai? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6668 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT & RECAP: The scrund was that the first line of the national anthem of Siam was phonetically equivalent to an English sentence that ends with 'I am." Since the 's' sound is also involved, think of a word ending in s that would occur before 'I am' in this funny scrund, which may have originated as a joke. | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1257 Registered: 9-2010 |
Yes? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 659 Registered: 2-2011 |
does it involve Popeye? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6674 Registered: 8-2001 |
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn) New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1257 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 11:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Yes? no Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 659 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 9:38 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) does it involve Popeye? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 715 Registered: 2-2011 |
yams relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6680 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 715 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 1:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) yams relevant? no. HINT: Think of a funny, mildly vulgar word that ends with the 's' sound | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 735 Registered: 2-2011 |
sorry, only messing..I'll start thinking | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 965 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hmm...'midly vulgar' tastes may vary... Midly vulgar in the US? UK? Somewhere else? Because seriously all I'm thinking of at the mo is "balls" which isn't really that mild... | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 742 Registered: 2-2011 |
piss? this doesn't seem right | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6681 Registered: 8-2001 |
Vesica (Vesica) New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 965 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 9:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Hmm...'midly vulgar' tastes may vary...Well, some people, including me, kind of like things that are mildly vulgar, but I think almost any American would say that one sense of this word is mildly vulgar Midly vulgar in the US? yes UK? I think so Somewhere else? I don't know.Maybe after the puzzle is solved, the Australians on the forum can tell us. And do we have members from other English-speaking countries? Nigeria? India? Because seriously all I'm thinking of at the mo is "balls" which isn't really that mild... Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 742 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 9:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) piss? no this doesn't seem right | ||
| Docd (Docd)
New member Username: Docd Post Number: 142 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did you think the first line was something like "We are Siam"? (= "Wee ass I am") (and for whoever wanted to know, "ass" is a commonly used vulgarity in Australia. It is more commonly spelt "a-r-s-e" though) | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6682 Registered: 8-2001 |
Docd (Docd) New member Username: Docd Post Number: 142 Registered: 12-2004 Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 9:12 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did you think the first line was something like "We are Siam"? (= "Wee ass I am") see below (and for whoever wanted to know, "ass" is a commonly used vulgarity in Australia. It is more commonly spelt "a-r-s-e" though) Thanks for this interesting information!! ************** SPOILER**************** When I was a kid, someone told me that the first line of the national anthem of Thailand sounded like the English sentence, "Oh, what an ass I am," & I actually believed this for several decades. After all, it could have been true!Please see my new puzzle you know where. |
