| Author | Message | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 379 Registered: 8-2001 |
Eva and Jack were talking on the phone and during the course of conversation, Eva asked Jack a question. He answered, but found that minutes after the call ended, his answer had come to mean the exact opposite of what he’d meant. He hadn’t lied or intended to mislead Eva at all. What’s going on? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 380 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shoot! Could a Moderator please add my name to the title? It's clearly been too long if I'm forgetting the posting rules. SORRY!! | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 878 Registered: 12-2010 |
Eva - H/A/F? Jack - H/A/M? Do they know each other personally? Are they married? a couple? relatives? friends? working together? Is this a true story? FYOI? FSEI? Are time and/or location relevant? Did something happen after the end of the call? Was it a yes/no question? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 382 Registered: 8-2001 |
Eva - H/A/F? Yes Jack - H/A/M? Yes Do they know each other personally? Yes Are they married? a couple? No to both relatives? Yes friends? working together? No to both Is this a true story? Yes Are time and/or location relevant? Yes-ish Did something happen after the end of the call? Yes Was it a yes/no question? No | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 880 Registered: 12-2010 |
Are they siblings? Mother and son? Father and daughter? Cousins? Is any of the following important: Which decade this happened in? What time of year? What time of day? In which country it happened? Where the two of them were during the call? Did Jack call Eva? Vice versa? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 385 Registered: 8-2001 |
Are they siblings? No Mother and son? Yes Father and daughter? Cousins? No to both Is any of the following important: Which decade this happened in? What time of year? What time of day? In which country it happened? No to all Where the two of them were during the call? Yes Did Jack call Eva? Vice versa? Irrelevant | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 885 Registered: 12-2010 |
Was Eva indoors? outdoors? at home? at work? in a shop? in a vehicle? Was Jack indoors? outdoors? at home? at work? in a shop? in a vehicle? Did something relevant happen before the call? Are there any other relevant people in this puzzle? Was the question related to Jack? To what he was doing? To where he was? Was it related to Eva? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 386 Registered: 8-2001 |
Was Eva indoors? outdoors? at home? at work? in a shop? in a vehicle? Was Jack indoors? outdoors? at home? at work? in a shop? in a vehicle? Let’s say Indoors, At Home for both. Did something relevant happen before the call? Yes-ish Are there any other relevant people in this puzzle? No Was the question related to Jack? Yes To what he was doing? To where he was? No Was it related to Eva? Yes | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 889 Registered: 12-2010 |
Was the question related to plans they had made? Meeting up? Or was it related to their past? Their relationship? Is it relevant how far away from each other the two of them were? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 392 Registered: 8-2001 |
Was the question related to plans they had made? No Meeting up? YES Or was it related to their past? Their relationship? Not really Is it relevant how far away from each other the two of them were? YES | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 891 Registered: 12-2010 |
Do they live far away from each other? Was the question related to when they could meet up? Where? Is it important how often they see each other? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 393 Registered: 8-2001 |
Do they live far away from each other? YES Was the question related to when they could meet up? Yes Where? Yes? Is it important how often they see each other? Yes | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 894 Registered: 12-2010 |
Okay... I suppose they don't see each other very often. Correct? So does Eva ask Jack when and where they could meet up? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 395 Registered: 8-2001 |
Okay... I suppose they don't see each other very often. Correct? Correct So does Eva ask Jack when and where they could meet up? YES, Let's say she asked "When are you going come see me?" | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 895 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does Jack say ... a date? ... "soon"? ... "probably not very soon"? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 398 Registered: 8-2001 |
Does Jack say ... a date? No ... "soon"? No ... "probably not very soon"? No, but OTRT | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 897 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does he say "never"? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 401 Registered: 8-2001 |
Does he say "never"? Yope? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12713 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does he give an exact answer? A date? A general time? Does it seem like he'll ever see her? That he will see her, but later than expected (or actually)? Sooner than expected (or actually)? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 402 Registered: 8-2001 |
Does he give an exact answer? A date? No to these A general time? Closest to this Does it seem like he'll ever see her? Yes That he will see her, but later than expected (or actually)? No Sooner than expected (or actually)? No Those last ones took some thinking, not sure I entirely understood the "seem" part of it. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 712 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is he serious in his answer? Or is he joking? Does he use an idiom? Do they live in different countries? Jack's answer indicate that he will come to see Mary, but not soon, correct? Is this his intended meaning? Or is this the unintended, opposite meaning? Is the unintended meaning that he will never come? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 393 Registered: 2-2011 |
does he say he'll see her before something happens and then the thing happens so that can't be true? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 923 Registered: 9-2010 |
Was it some tongue-in-cheek answer like "At your funeral"? Or did he state in general "When X Happens"? And he didn't think X would happen for a while (or ever) and then it did? (Like if this happened in the '60s and he said "I'll see you when they put a man on the moon" meaning never, and then later that day, NASA announced that they WOULD put a man on the moon soon) | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 404 Registered: 8-2001 |
Redwine Is he serious in his answer? No Or is he joking? Yes Does he use an idiom? No Do they live in different countries? Yes, though far from each other works just as well. Jack's answer indicate that he will come to see Mary *coughEVAcough*, but not soon, correct? Yes Is this his intended meaning? YES Or is this the unintended, opposite meaning? No Is the unintended meaning that he will never come? No Shez does he say he'll see her before something happens and then the thing happens so that can't be true? No, but this is getting in the right direction Gregoryuconn Was it some tongue-in-cheek answer like "At your funeral"? Yes...but not that one Or did he state in general "When X Happens"? YES And he didn't think X would happen for a while (or ever) and then it did? YES! (Like if this happened in the '60s and he said "I'll see you when they put a man on the moon" meaning never, and then later that day, NASA announced that they WOULD put a man on the moon soon) Absolutely the right line of thinking, not these specifics… Some good progress here! Doriana was working away at it, but sometimes new folks can hit on some different lines of thinking! | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 904 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did he say "When you're in hospital" or something similar? And then Eva had to go there? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 410 Registered: 8-2001 |
Did he say "When you're in hospital" or something similar? No And then Eva had to go there? Nope | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 913 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did he say "When I find a four-leaf clover"? "When you find a four-leaf clover"? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 413 Registered: 8-2001 |
Did he say "When I find a four-leaf clover"? "When you find a four-leaf clover"? No, but... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12732 Registered: 4-2010 |
"When pigs fly?" Some sarcastic statement like that? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 419 Registered: 8-2001 |
"When pigs fly?" Not this one... Some sarcastic statement like that? YES! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12738 Registered: 4-2010 |
"When hell freezes over?" | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12739 Registered: 4-2010 |
If that last one, did a town called Hell get a massive snowstorm and ergo freeze over? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 421 Registered: 8-2001 |
"When hell freezes over?" No If that last one, did a town called Hell get a massive snowstorm and ergo freeze over? Very clever and OTRT, but No HINT: Doriana stumbled on something that could help in her last questions. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12743 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the title relevant? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 424 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is the title relevant? YES | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 932 Registered: 9-2010 |
When I find a four-leaf clover? When you find a four-leaf clover? When four-leaf clovers fall from the sky? When four-leaf clovers grow on treews? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 430 Registered: 8-2001 |
When I find a four-leaf clover? This is the closest When you find a four-leaf clover? When four-leaf clovers fall from the sky? When four-leaf clovers grow on treews? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3368 Registered: 9-2010 |
"When I find (x number) of four-leaf clovers"? Two? Three? More? A hundred? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 431 Registered: 8-2001 |
"When I find (x number) of four-leaf clovers"? Two? Three? More? A hundred? Nope, OTRT HINT: He didn't say anything about four-leaf clovers, but the title is relevant. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 432 Registered: 8-2001 |
ARG - BLOOOOOPER ALERT "When I find (x number) of four-leaf clovers"? Two? Three? More? A hundred? Nope, OTRT Wrong track...ORWT | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 433 Registered: 8-2001 |
*headdesk* Clearly, it's past my bedtime. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 403 Registered: 2-2011 |
when I win the lottery? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 722 Registered: 1-2011 |
The thing to happen, is this a good thing (John would be happy if this happened)? Or is it a bad thing? The thing to happen, should it happen to John? To Eva? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 723 Registered: 1-2011 |
The names in this puzzle don't like me... Of course I meant Jack, not John. My bad. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12745 Registered: 4-2010 |
Shez - I think you're right, and I remember reading that story. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 407 Registered: 2-2011 |
moi? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 435 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shez when I win the lottery? YES!! Care to bring this one home? Redwine The thing to happen, is this a good thing ( Or is it a bad thing? No The thing to happen, should it happen to To Eva? No Balin, seems like you’ve got this one. Well remembered! | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 409 Registered: 2-2011 |
I honestly haven't a clue - it was just a wild guess. over to you Balin | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 935 Registered: 9-2010 |
And then he won the lottery? Or is it something less obvious? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12756 Registered: 4-2010 |
I found the link to the story - if Vesica doesn't post it in the 5po1ler, I'll do so. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 442 Registered: 8-2001 |
And then he won the lottery? YES! Or is it something less obvious? No, it's pretty obvious. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 443 Registered: 8-2001 |
************ SPOILER ************ Below is the text of the news story on this one: Florida man wins lottery, must visit mom Smart-aleck remark ends in $4 million win — and a trip to see her (Todd Wright, NBCMIAMI.com, 3/16/2011) MIAMI — When Johan Fourie's mom asked him on Sunday when he was going to come visit her, his answer was as funny as it was seemingly unrealistic. "When I win the lottery," Fourie said. Moments later, Fourie checked his Florida Lotto ticket and saw that he had actually won the $4 million jackpot. (Ves adds: Florida Lotto holds one of its weekly drawings late Saturday evening, with many checking their tickets in the Sunday morning paper.) "I had no idea I would be calling her back later that day to tell her I was on my way!" he said Wednesday. For 12 years, the 62-year-old Hollywood man had played the same numbers — 9, 10, 23, 37, 38 — religiously every week. His diligence finally paid off in a big way. Fourie chose to take the lump sum payment of more than $2.3 million. Maybe mom will get a really nice dinner with her visit. Where does his Mom live that he rarely sees her? No clue. Does Johan realize he might have been able to see his Mom more often if he wasn’t spending $100 a year on lotto tickets? No clue. Will everyone who worked on this puzzle think twice before giving a smart-aleck answer? Maybe. Or maybe they will buy a lotto ticket and then see if this response will work twice. *wink*} Well played all! Not a bad first puzzle back and I’m remembering how addictive playing these can be! Balin, feel free to post the link if you like. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12764 Registered: 4-2010 |
OK, here's the link, although it's the same thing as the text of the $poyler: http://www.lotterypost.com/news/229121 Although you'll probably enjoy some of the comments. | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 942 Registered: 9-2010 |
In 1964, Giants manager Alvin Dark remarked "There will be a man on the moon before Gaylord Perry hits a home run". At 1:40 PM PDT on July 20, 1969, Apollo 11 landed on the moon. Just a few minutes later, Gaylord Perry hit his first major league home run. Go figure! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12773 Registered: 4-2010 |
17 minutes later, IIRC. Baseball trivia - gotta love it. | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 954 Registered: 9-2010 |
Roughly 17. We don't know exactly, but it was a 2 hour 20 minute game that started at 1:00 PM PDT and he hit it in the bottom of the third inning, so it was probably around 1:45-2:00 PM. But we don't know exactly when. |
