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Vesica (Vesica)
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A nod to Doriana for the inspiration, though she may not realize she inspired it!

People were glaring at me, but it wasn't my fault! I only laughed because of Tom and rice. It's not like Peter was offended.

I = Me = Ves

I have a funny feeling this one is going to take a while or go very, very quickly.
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Rice - an object? The college? The food? A certain brand?

Tom - H? A? M? Real? Fictional?
Peter - H? A? M? Real? Fictional?

It - an action? An object? An incident?
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So people thought Peter was offended by your laughing? Was Tom offended? Did Tom do something with the rice?
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Balin

Rice - an object? Yes
The college? No
The food? Yes
A certain brand? Yes

Tom - H? A? M? Real? Fictional? Real HAM
Peter - H? A? M? Real? Fictional? Fictional HAM

It - an action? An object? An incident? An action/incident - the laughing.

Twilightseeker
So people thought Peter was offended by your laughing? No
Was Tom offended? No
Did Tom do something with the rice? No
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Is Peter "Uncle Ben"?
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Is Peter "Uncle Ben"? No, but OTRT
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Minute Rice relevant?
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Is the brand Uncle Ben's?
Is Peter a company mascot?

Do you know Tom personally? Is he a friend of yours? relative? co-worker? Did you laugh because Tom said something funny? did something funny? Tickled you?
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Balin
Minute Rice relevant? No

Doriana
Is the brand Uncle Ben's? Yes
Is Peter a company mascot? No

Do you know Tom personally? Yes
Is he a friend of yours? relative? co-worker? Friend
Did you laugh because Tom said something funny? Yes
did something funny? No
Tickled you? No
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Did he say something about you? himself? rice? Peter? Uncle Ben's?

Is Peter a character in a book? movie? play? game? Is he a mythical figure?

Were people glaring at you because of your laughter? Is it relevant who those people were? How many of them there were? Is it relevant where you were when it happened?
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Is "Uncle Tom" (analog to "Uncle Ben") relevant?
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Doriana
Did he say something about you? No
himself? No
rice? Yes
Peter? No
Uncle Ben's? Yes

Is Peter a character in a book? movie? play? game? Is he a mythical figure? In a movie

Were people glaring at you because of your laughter? Yes
Is it relevant who those people were? No
How many of them there were? No
Is it relevant where you were when it happened? YES

Potato
Is "Uncle Tom" (analog to "Uncle Ben") relevant? Nope, but great lateral thinking.
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Does Peter actually have an uncle named Ben?
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Oh, I see that Peter is the fictional one and Tom is the friend. So replace Peter with Tom in my question.
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Were you in a cinema? And Peter is a character in the movie you were watching?

If not, were you at home? at a friend's place? at Tom's place? at school? at work? in a store? in a public building? in a vehicle? outdoors?
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Biograd
Does Peter actually have an uncle named Ben? Yes

Oh, I see that Peter is the fictional one and Tom is the friend. So replace Peter with Tom in my question.
It's not nearly as helpful, but No, Tom does not have an Uncle named Ben.

Doriana
Were you in a cinema? Yes
And Peter is a character in the movie you were watching? Yes

If not, were you at home? at a friend's place? at Tom's place? at school? at work? in a store? in a public building? in a vehicle? outdoors? See above.
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Peter Parker? Spider-Man?
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Peter Pan?
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Peter Rabbit?

Peter's Friends?
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Was the character called Peter at all?
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Balin
Peter Parker? YES
Spider-Man? YES

Twilightseeker
Peter Pan? No

Shez
Peter Rabbit? No
Peter's Friends? No

Doriana
Was the character called Peter at all? Yes

Sorry for the vanishing act. Big weekend for work and lots of 18 hour days. Ugh.
Balin (Balin)
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Is there rice in the Spider-Man movie? Any of them?

Does Uncle Ben ever eat rice? So that rice would technically be "Uncle Ben's rice"?
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Balin
Is there rice in the Spider-Man movie? Not that I know of...
Any of them? Again, no - but it is vital that there are more than 1 Spider Man movies.

Does Uncle Ben ever eat rice? Nope
So that rice would technically be "Uncle Ben's rice"? No, but scooting in the right direction.
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The first movie relevant? Second? Third? Upcoming fourth? Any promotional materials relevant?
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The first movie relevant? Second? Third? Upcoming fourth? Any promotional materials relevant?
First and second, though I think it could be first and third just as easily.
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Relevant parts of the movies:

Characters? Heroes? Villains? Neutral characters?
The plot?
The setting?
Certain situations?
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Relevant parts of the movies:

Characters? Heroes? Characters, the two relevant characters have already been identified.
Villains? Neutral characters?
The plot? Yesish
The setting? No
Certain situations? More this than plot.
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Uncle Ben's death relevant?
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Uncle Ben's death relevant? YES
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The circumstances surrounding his death relevant? The killer? The manner of death?
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The circumstances surrounding his death relevant? This is closest.
The killer? No
The manner of death? No
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Time of death? Events leading up to his death?
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Time of death?
Events leading up to his death? Neither of these

I don't think having seen the movies is required, but you may need someone who knows the story to nail the relevant event/part of the event.
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Location of his death?
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Location of his death? No
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Peter's wrestling match relevant? Letting the eventual killer go?
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Peter's wrestling match relevant? Letting the eventual killer go? No to these
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RECAP:

People were glaring at me, but it wasn't my fault! I only laughed because of Tom and rice. It's not like Peter was offended.


Tom is a real human adult, friend of mine, who said something funny about Uncle Benís rice.

Peter is Peter Parker from the Spiderman series. Peterís Uncle Ben and Uncle Benís brand rice are both relevant. Spiderman 1 and Spiderman 2 are relevant (though 3 might work as well).

People were glaring because of my laughing, but it wasnít my fault! It is relevant that I was in a cinema watching Peter when I was laughing.

Uncle Benís death is relevant but we have yet to determine how.

Weíve determined that Uncle Benís killer, the location of his death, time of death and circumstances of death are not relevant.

For those that havenít seen the movie/arenít familiar with the story, Peter has newly acquired his superpowers, has a chance to stop a robber and doesnít, only to have the bad guy run into his Uncle Ben minutes later and fatally wound him. Queue guilt issues.

HINT: The relevant bit comes after what I just summarized above.

Once we have this, I think itís just a matter of someone putting it all together with a few key details yet to be determined.
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Does he have a funeral in the film? Relevant?
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Does he have a funeral in the film? Don't know
Relevant? No, earlier than that
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Anything done by Uncle Ben relevant? Said by him?
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did Tom say Uncle Ben died because of Uncle Ben's rice? or "he won't be eating/making any more rice"?
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Balin
Anything done by Uncle Ben relevant? see below
Said by him? YES! But not what he said, but...

Shez
Did Tom say Uncle Ben died because of Uncle Ben's rice? No
or "he won't be eating/making any more rice"? No, but this is on the right track enough that if we get the relevant bit that Balin was getting close to above, I will just tell you all what was said.
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come on Balin!
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*cough* Conversations take how many people... *cough*
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Two, at least.
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Two, at least. Huzzah...so Uncle Ben and...
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Spider-Man/Peter Parker?

(sorry, I have not seen the movies...:-( )
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Spider-Man/Peter Parker? YES!

(sorry, I have not seen the movies...:-( ) But you got it anyway...

I don't this is one of my best puzzles and I'm not going to torture you all to get the last little bit of info. You-know-what coming right up!
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***** SPOILER *****

I went to see the first Spiderman movie with my friend Tom. During the very dramatic death scene of Uncle Ben, as heís lying on a dirty sidewalk, cradled in Peterís arms Ė my friend Tom whispered at me an alternative to Uncle Benís dying words, which ran something like:

ďThe rice, Peter. You must *GASP* Protect *wheezing breath* THE RICE.Ē

I found this hysterical, which was fine when seeing Spiderman 1 and having Tom sitting right next to me.

Not so fine when I saw Spiderman 2 with a completely different group of friends. Peter has a flashback to his Uncleís death, which is a very sad moment in the film. And there I am biting my lip trying not to laugh. I lost the fight and burst out laughing Ė which resulted in everyone around, including my friends, looking at me like I was some sort of beast for laughing at someone's on-screen death.

Seriously Ė so not my fault.


Thank everyone that played with special kudos to Balin for tenacity and Kalyee for managing to tie up the loose ends without having seen the movies!
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Sorry I missed the end - class. But a nice one, and a great story!
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Apparently my friends exist only to provide fodder for lateral puzzles. That's probably fine since it's been a long running joke that my dating life exists only to find new folks they want to be friends with. :D

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