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Kalira (Kalira)
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She made the wrong decision. Maybe she was just a bit smarter than they gave her credit for.

Early spoilers, please email.
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All "she"s/"her"s the same? H? A? F? You (Kalira)?

True story? FYOI? FSEI?

Decision - of an action? Of a selection? Of an object?
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Monkeys relevant? Is she a monkey?

they = H? A? M? Relevant how many? If so, [LTPF list of integers], please.

Did the wrong decision have negative consequences? For her? For "them"? For someone else? Loss of life? Financial loss? Loss of reputation? Injuries? Loss of property?
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Do "they" share any relevant features? If so: profession? age? location? hobby?
Is their relation to her relevant? If so: family? friends? supervisors? teachers?
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Balin
All "she"s/"her"s the same? yes H? A? F? HCF You (Kalira)? no

True story? yes FYOI? FSEI?

Decision - of an action? if I'm understanding you correctly, this one -- may want to clarify, though Of a selection? Of an object?

Doriana
Monkeys relevant? no Is she a monkey? well, primate, but no ;-)

they = H? A? M? HA, mixed genders but mostly male Relevant how many? no If so, [LTPF list of integers], please.

Did the wrong decision have negative consequences? yope For her? this For "them"? For someone else? Loss of life? Financial loss? Loss of reputation? Injuries? Loss of property? none of these, though

Redwine
Do "they" share any relevant features? yes If so: profession? this-ish age? location? hobby?
Is their relation to her relevant? yes If so: family? friends? supervisors? teachers? sort of this, but there's more to it
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Did "they" have to rescue her? Was she in danger?
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Did "they" have to rescue her? no Was she in danger? noish
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Did it happen in school? Is a certain subject relevant? English? Math? Geography? Biology? Physics? Chemistry? Sports? Art? Music? History? Politics? Religion? Philosophy?

Is a hobby of hers relevant? Did it happen in music school? Or in a gym? Or in some sort of youth center?
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Did it happen in school? yope Is a certain subject relevant? English? Math? Geography? Biology? Physics? Chemistry? Sports? Art? Music? History? Politics? Religion? Philosophy? hmm... religion, philosophy, and sports are yope

Is a hobby of hers relevant? unsure, assume yes Did it happen in music school? Or in a gym? Or in some sort of youth center? for svv of youth center, yes
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HINT: Remember when I said "their" profession was relevant? They're not exactly teachers...
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Are they school employees?
School system employees?
Principals?
Librarians?
Bus Drivers?
Custodial staff?
Coaches?
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Are they school employees?
School system employees?
Principals?
Librarians?
Bus Drivers?
Custodial staff?
Coaches? actually, none of the above, with maybe the slightest ish on coaches
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Are they tutors? Counselors?
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PTA members?
Volunteers?
Crossing guards?
Outside police serving as campus security?
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Are they tutors? yope Counselors?

PTA members?
Volunteers?
Crossing guards?
Outside police serving as campus security? no to the rest

You're thinking a little too inside the box here... you may want to invoke an LTPF list.
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LTPF lists of relevant:
Centuries & decades?
Continents & countries?
Professions?
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LTPF lists of relevant: irony -- an LTPF list of LTPF lists...
Centuries & decades? 21st c. -- 2011 to be exact
Continents & countries? US
Professions?
I'll just copy it from here...
Artistic yes/ musical / writer
Banking / financial / real estate
Clerical / Administrative
Computer related / Hardware
Construction / Craftsman
Criminal / Questionable Repute
Education / Academic Research
Entertainment yes/ Media
Environmental / Outdoors / Nature
Executive / Management
Hospitality / Travel
Legal Services
Manufacturing / Distributions
Medical / Health Services
Politics / Government / Military yope
Sales / Marketing
Technical / Science / Engineering
Teaching yesish/ Child care
Transportation
Food Service
Other religion is also yope, which should probably be added to that list when I get a minute

I think there was a better go-to list at some point, but I couldn't find it immediately in a search.
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lol, yes, irony there, but those were the only LTPF lists I could think of. Any I missed?
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"Artistic" and "Entertainment" got "yes" while "Military" got "Yope", "Teaching" got "yesish" and "Religion" would have been another "yope" if it was there. Hmmm...

"She" is a human child and female. Is she between 0 (less than a year) and 4 years old? Between 5 and 12 years old?
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Were they tutors of the artistic group? Perhaps military gospel choir?
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was it a church? are they youth leaders in a church? clergy? boy scout/girl guide leaders?
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Reviewing the list of Yes and Yopes to the long list...

Is a chaplin in the USO relevant?
A headmaster of a Catholic school on a base?
(Because that's my best guess for Arts/Entertainment with Yopish Military/Teaching/Religion)
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Kayleetonkslupin
lol, yes, irony there, but those were the only LTPF lists I could think of. Any I missed? nope... the important one was profession, really.

"Artistic" and "Entertainment" got "yes" while "Military" got "Yope", "Teaching" got "yesish" and "Religion" would have been another "yope" if it was there. Hmmm...

"She" is a human child and female. Is she between 0 (less than a year) and 4 years old? Between 5 and 12 years old? this

Redwine
Were they tutors of the artistic group? Perhaps military gospel choir? no to both

Shez
was it a church? where the event happened? no are they youth leaders in a church? not in the sense you're thinking of clergy? no boy scout/girl guide leaders? no, but this is closer...

Vesica
Reviewing the list of Yes and Yopes to the long list...

Is a chaplin in the USO relevant? no
A headmaster of a Catholic school on a base? and no
(Because that's my best guess for Arts/Entertainment with Yopish Military/Teaching/Religion)

HINT: Focus on the yeses, then the yopes/yesish will come into focus... hopefully.

Apologies for the indistinct nature of the answers -- must stop doing puzzles with odd professions attached.
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Do "they" even know her?
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Do "they" even know her? I believe they have known her for less than an hour when the event happens, maybe even shorter than that
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were they camp counsellors?
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were they camp counsellors? no
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personal trainers? army? air force? navy? marines?

was she a cadet? did they give her an order?
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personal trainers? army? air force? navy? marines? trainers, yes (not personal trainers, though), but not for these organizations

was she a cadet? yesish did they give her an order? YES
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military? police?

was the decision whether or not to obey the order?

would obeying the order put her in danger?
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military? police? vaguely both, but remember, try to figure out those yeses in the profession

was the decision whether or not to obey the order? yes

would obeying the order put her in danger? yope to yesish
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Would obeying the order put someone else in danger?
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Would obeying the order put someone else in danger? same yope to yesish

HINT: Everything is not as it seems... You should really explore those 'yes' professions -- they could clear a lot up.
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"artistic" and "entertainment" - hmmm.

Is she involved in music? Performing arts? Visual arts?
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Acting relevant? Was anyone acting/pretending to be anyone religious and/or military? Music, dance, performance art, singing, ventriloquism, magic, relevant?
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"artistic" and "entertainment" - hmmm.

Is she involved in music? Performing arts? yope to this one, no to the others... but remember who those occupation questions were about Visual arts?

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Acting relevant? YES Was anyone acting/pretending to be anyone religious and/or military? yesish Music, dance, performance art, singing, ventriloquism, magic, relevant? assume no
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Are the other two guys actors? Is an actual play relevant?
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so was she acting when she made the wrong decision? or was it a real life decision?
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Are the other two guys actors? with my correction, yes Is an actual play relevant? wouldn't call it a play exactly, but OTRT...

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so was she acting when she made the wrong decision? no or was it a real life decision? and yes! Good question.
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A skit? Improvisation? Musical?
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was she an actress? or was it some sort of audience participation thing?

did she choose not to go up on stage? or not be the lady being sawn in half?
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A skit? no Improvisation? not in general, but there was some of this when she made her decision Musical?definitely not

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was she an actress? no or was it some sort of audience participation thing? and yes

did she choose not to go up on stage? no or not be the lady being sawn in half? no
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Was she part of the audience? Was she selected by the other guys?

Can you please recap?
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was anyone involved wearing a monkey suit?
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Was she part of the audience? Was she selected by the other guys? yes to both

Can you please recap? absolutely not... well, okay, if you insist...

A young girl was at a show (apparently it is sometimes called an 'experience'), and was chosen to participate in it. The actors in the show trained her in something. Religion/philosophy, military, and sports are involved here (more military/sports than religion/philosophy, in this case, though). After she was trained, she was asked to make a decision/obey an order. If she obeyed the order, she or another person would yopishly be in danger. She made the "wrong" decision, and my thought was that maybe she was smarter than they gave her credit for.


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was anyone involved wearing a monkey suit? no

HINT 1: This 'experience' only happens at two locations, both within the US.

HINT 2: The other person who could yopishly have been in danger if she obeyed the order was another actor.

HINT 3: What she was being trained in/as has a specific name. She would not have been chosen if she were an adult.
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Hmmm...Is Star Wars relevant?
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Hmmm...Is Star Wars relevant? yes... did I give too much of a hint?
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No, I've just seen the YouTube video. Though "two" locations in the US brought it back to mind. ;)

Should I bow out of this one or do you want me to go ahead and make sure we're thinking of the same thing.
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Hmmm... let's see if anyone else wants to ask questions first. I'm about 95% sure you have the right thing in mind.
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Sounds like a plan!
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Would the "danger" have been part of the show?
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Would the "danger" have been part of the show? the actor's -- yes; hers -- difficult to say... explore
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grr... think of better answers right after posting. Better (2nd half of) answer = 'hers -- yes, but...'
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I hate it when that happens.

Would the "show danger" for her have led to real danger?
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Would the "show danger" for her have led to real danger? no, but... beware FAs
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I can ask questions..but they are going to be leading....Should I?

Is it relevant who gave the order?
Was he very tall and dressed in all black?
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I can ask questions..but they are going to be leading....Should I? well, it appears nobody else wanted to join in, so I guess you should :-)

Is it relevant who gave the order? yes
Was he very tall and dressed in all black? actually no, but since we both know what you're talking about...

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There is a viral video that was filmed in February 2011 that illustrates the joys of audience participation.

At Disneyland, there is a "Jedi Training Academy" show/'experience' where young children are chosen to come up and are given Jedi robes and learn to use the Force, etc. Once they learn some moves, Darth Vader and Darth Maul come out to challenge them. A girl is brought to the stage (so that they can use the recording from the movie, "If you will not turn to the Dark Side, perhaps SHE will"), at which point the Jedi instructor tells her to fight Vader.

Enter Sariah Gallego. In the video, the instructor tells her to fight, and she just stands there. She turns and apparently talks to the Jedi, who says in a surprised voice something along the lines of "Oh, you want to join him?" At which point it becomes even more epic, as she turns back to Vader and kneels to her new master. Amused, but probably slightly confused, the Jedi gets her back to her feet and points her in the direction of the Sith Academy (off stage).

So, she made the wrong decision according to what Disneyland wanted her to do, but in my opinion, she might have been smarter than they gave her credit for... If I were a ~9 year old girl and you taught me a couple of moves and then expected me to defeat a guy with inordinately great strength who killed who knows how many people over the course of the movies, I'd think twice myself. (Of course, it turns out she really does like the Sith, as people found out through interviews with her after the video went viral...)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And of course, I forgot to link to the video for anyone who hasn't seen it... Here it is.

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