| Author | Message | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3922 Registered: 9-2009 |
"That's pathetic." "This sucks." "What a mess." "What a load of junk." This lead to a successful evening. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 663 Registered: 2-2011 |
are 4 different people speaking? 3? 2? 1? any other people present? true story? FYOI? FSEI? did it lead to a successful evening because steps were taken to improve the thing that was pathetic, a mess, sucked etc? are all the statements about the same thing? is it a physical thing? an event? a production? were the people present responsible for generating the unsatisfactory thing in the first place? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3924 Registered: 9-2009 |
are 4 different people speaking? 3? 2? 1? any other people present? Two different groups are speaking. true story? FYOI? FSEI? True story. did it lead to a successful evening because steps were taken to improve the thing that was pathetic, a mess, sucked etc? Yesish. are all the statements about the same thing? No. is it a physical thing? an event? a production? There is more than one "it". were the people present responsible for generating the unsatisfactory thing in the first place? Yesish. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13596 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are any of the "its" a situation? An object? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 666 Registered: 2-2011 |
it 1 = it 2? it 3? it 4? it 2 = it 3? it 4? it 3 = it 4? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3925 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are any of the "its" a situation? Yesish. An object? Yes. it 1 = it 2? No. it 3? Noish. it 4? Noish. it 2 = it 3? it 4? No to both. it 3 = it 4? Noish. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 669 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it 1 an object? a situation? an event? an idea? an opinion? a judgement? same for its 2 3 and 4 please | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3926 Registered: 9-2009 |
it 1 = an object consisting of many objects it 2 = a situation it 3 = many objects it 4 = many objects | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13604 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are any of the objects people? Does It 1 contain It 3? It 4? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3927 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are any of the objects people? No. Does It 1 contain It 3? It 4? Eventually, yes. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2625 Registered: 7-2009 |
Are the two groups speaking to each other? Are they in the same location? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3928 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are the two groups speaking to each other? Not at that time. Are they in the same location? Roughly. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2628 Registered: 7-2009 |
Did the two groups come together for the successful evening? I'm assuming It 3 was initially with one group and It 4 was initially with the other, is this correct? Were items from Its 3 and 4 combined in some way? Swapped? Sold? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3934 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the two groups come together for the successful evening? No, but irr. I'm assuming It 3 was initially with one group and It 4 was initially with the other, is this correct? Yes. Were items from Its 3 and 4 combined in some way? Yes. Swapped? Sold? None of these. Good questions. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13616 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is a chemical reaction relevant? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3761 Registered: 9-2010 |
Skydiving relevant? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3940 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is a chemical reaction relevant? Yes. Skydiving relevant? Yes. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3765 Registered: 9-2010 |
The banana's loss relevant? the banana relevant at all? The cucumber relevant? Any new planes relevant? also, could you repost the skydiving from the banana video, as the last link got lost in the disappearing chatroom archive =( | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3942 Registered: 9-2009 |
The banana's loss relevant? the banana relevant at all? The cucumber relevant? Any new planes relevant? It's only relevant that we have a jump plane. See chat for videos. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13635 Registered: 4-2010 |
Fuel relevant? Successful evening - of skydiving? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3946 Registered: 9-2009 |
Fuel relevant? Yes. Successful evening - of skydiving? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13656 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were you supposed to go skydiving that day? Did the fuel not work? Did the plane run out of fuel? Did it even have fuel in it? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3954 Registered: 9-2009 |
Were you supposed to go skydiving that day? Yes. Did the fuel not work? Did the plane run out of fuel? Did it even have fuel in it? FA - the fuel for the plane is not involved. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3959 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the fuel not work? The fuel that was involved worked fine. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13740 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you end up not skydiving at all? Skydiving elsewhere? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3977 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did you end up not skydiving at all? I ended up skydiving much less than I wanted. Skydiving elsewhere? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13747 Registered: 4-2010 |
Much less than you wanted = fewer jumps? From a lower height? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3982 Registered: 9-2009 |
Much less than you wanted = fewer jumps? This. From a lower height? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3985 Registered: 9-2009 |
Hint: It 2 = not being able to do as many jumps as I wanted, because of bad weather. | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2011 |
Are the two groups divisible by the skydivers and by an audience of, say, TV journalists or sports bloggers? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3989 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are the two groups divisible by the skydivers Yes, one group is the skydivers. and by an audience of, say, TV journalists or sports bloggers? No, the other group is neither of the above, but they are related to the skydivers in a certain way. | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 5 Registered: 7-2011 |
Then, in my second "group" question, are some people simply watching? Or do they have auxiliary tasks in support of the divers? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3991 Registered: 9-2009 |
Then, in my second "group" question, are some people simply watching? No. Or do they have auxiliary tasks in support of the divers? No. It would help to find out more about it1, 3 and 4, and who says which. | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 24 Registered: 7-2011 |
First, I want to be certain: Are the handful of people who are absorbed in this activity, are they all right there in the same space or area? Since you agree to a division of people, I'd next like to ask: (1) Is the second group part of an authoritative hierachy, ranging from the pilot to the trainer to the vomit-cleaners; (2) Does the second group consist of skydivers from a rival team? (3) You wrote: "but they are related to the skydivers in a certain way." Er, are they related to you? Or to Uncle Tony Soprano? I'm mystified. Really liking this one! | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3992 Registered: 9-2009 |
First, I want to be certain: Are the handful of people who are absorbed in this activity, are they all right there in the same space or area? Yes. Since you agree to a division of people, I'd next like to ask: (1) Is the second group part of an authoritative hierachy, ranging from the pilot to the trainer to the vomit-cleaners; No, but you've mentioned a key word. (2) Does the second group consist of skydivers from a rival team? No. (3) You wrote: "but they are related to the skydivers in a certain way." Er, are they related to you? Or to Uncle Tony Soprano? No, not related as in family. I'm mystified. Really liking this one! Nice to hear. I'll be away skydiving for a week or two, but hope to be able to pop in now and then. | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 34 Registered: 7-2011 |
I realize that I misspelled hierarchy, but that is my first guess. I suppose my next q should be about vomit. (Hey, I can ride a horse, but no stratospheres for me.) Galfisk, are you one of the trainers or directors / decision-makers yourself? Should I follow clues about the area (such as, were you on the ground or in the air), or should I ask more about the folks involved? Relationships: Members of a unit who teach skydiving? Members who are taking classes for skydiving? Members of the local undertaker? (I'm sorry. That's a horrible question. But I'll leave it there, in case there's some relation.) It's been great to make your acquaintance. Have a good time! | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 35 Registered: 7-2011 |
Wait, I've got it! You are part of a filming crew making a Jim Carrey or a Chris Rock movie. I'm right, right? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3993 Registered: 9-2009 |
I realize that I misspelled hierarchy, but that is my first guess. I suppose my next q should be about vomit. (Hey, I can ride a horse, but no stratospheres for me.) No vomit involved ; ) Galfisk, are you one of the trainers or directors / decision-makers yourself? Irr. Should I follow clues about the area Yes. (such as, were you on the ground or in the air), ground. or should I ask more about the folks involved? This too. Relationships: Members of a unit who teach skydiving? Members who are taking classes for skydiving? Members of the local undertaker? (I'm sorry. That's a horrible question. But I'll leave it there, in case there's some relation.) No to all. The last skydiving death in Sweden was in 2005, you'll be glad to know. It's been great to make your acquaintance. Have a good time! Will do. Wait, I've got it! You are part of a filming crew making a Jim Carrey or a Chris Rock movie. I'm right, right? Wrong, you're wrong. | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 41 Registered: 7-2011 |
You added, "Does It 1 contain It 3? It 4? Eventually, yes." And the questions and motives are SO intriguing. Does the "it" require maintenance? Or no maintenance? I'm grasping for clues, but I'm sleepy. I'll get back tomorrow, and thanks for a good times puzzle! P.S. "The lines that you quoted - are they something that Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog, might say?" (I MUST ask whether you, Galfisk, know Hans Persson" www.hanper.se) | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3994 Registered: 9-2009 |
Sorry for not replying earlier, I've been on vacation with very limited internet access. You added, "Does It 1 contain It 3? It 4? Eventually, yes." And the questions and motives are SO intriguing. Does the "it" require maintenance? Or no maintenance? This. I'm grasping for clues, but I'm sleepy. I'll get back tomorrow, and thanks for a good times puzzle! P.S. "The lines that you quoted - are they something that Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog, might say?" I don't know a lot about that character, but I don't think so. (I MUST ask whether you, Galfisk, know Hans Persson" www.hanper.se) No. | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 228 Registered: 7-2011 |
Is there a concomitant sky-related object such as a hot-air balloon or a fighter jet escort? (Hey, you never said that we cannot be silly.) Going back to the spoken statements: 1) Were the speakers in agreement? 2) Were the speakers arguing with each other? 3) Were the speakers trying to throw blame onto someone else? 4) Did the evening become successful because 4a) they finally solved a technical problem? 4b) they said to hell with it and went out for beer? Do we need to know precisely where this occurs, such as a park in Stockholm? Or do we need only to know that the people are on the ground? Wait. Are ALL of the speakers on the ground? Are some of them up in the air? I have forgotten almost all of the chemistry I ever learned, so, if the fuel is not involved, in what way is chemistry involved? Oh, and you wrote, "FA - the fuel for the plane is not involved." Forgive me, Galfisk, I don't know what FA stands for. I'm a newbie here. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4146 Registered: 9-2010 |
FA = false assumption =) fear not fiona kitteh, kaylee kitteh iz heer =D | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4147 Registered: 9-2010 |
is something else about the plane involved? fuel, but not for the plane? is the FA that there's only one plane? fuel for more than one plane? | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 231 Registered: 7-2011 |
Thank you, my dear kaylee kitteh! Just occurred to me: Was someone supposed to be there but never showed up? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3998 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is there a concomitant sky-related object such as a hot-air balloon or a fighter jet escort? (Hey, you never said that we cannot be silly.) No other sky-related objects involved. Going back to the spoken statements: 1) Were the speakers in agreement? Yes. 2) Were the speakers arguing with each other? No. 3) Were the speakers trying to throw blame onto someone else? No. 4) Did the evening become successful because 4a) they finally solved a technical problem? This, DYOD of "technical" DYOD = depending on your definition 4b) they said to hell with it and went out for beer? No. Do we need to know precisely where this occurs, Yes, it occurs at our airfield. such as a park in Stockholm? Or do we need only to know that the people are on the ground? See above. Wait. Are ALL of the speakers on the ground? Yes. Are some of them up in the air? No. I have forgotten almost all of the chemistry I ever learned, so, if the fuel is not involved, in what way is chemistry involved? This is not a yes/no question. Oh, and you wrote, "FA - the fuel for the plane is not involved." Forgive me, Galfisk, I don't know what FA stands for. I'm a newbie here. You know now : ) is something else about the plane involved? No. fuel, but not for the plane? Yes. is the FA that there's only one plane? No. fuel for more than one plane? No. Just occurred to me: Was someone supposed to be there but never showed up? No, nothing like this. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14120 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the fuel for another vehicle? A car? Truck? For something else? A generator? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4152 Registered: 9-2010 |
o hai Galfisk...any good jumps lately? =) new bananas or cucumbers? (fyi fiona kitteh, the banana and cucumber were/are Galfisk's planes that I first knew of =) sadly the banana vanished, but is there a banana number two yet? or three, even?) | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 241 Registered: 7-2011 |
Kaylee kitteh, you have been appointed my guide through these puzzling labyrinths. And I know a perfect gift for you, to represent your torch in the darkness, or symbolizing your cloak of wizardry, or something. The rest of you, please forgive our love fest! I want to be clear: The spoken statements, were they all spoken at the same time, that is, in fairly rapid succession in the conversation? Or were they statements spread out over a longer period of time? Is one of the speakers a pilot? Is one of the speakers a trainer? Is one of the speakers a person new to diving? Is one of the speakers you? Is one of the speakers there in case of medical emergencies? Have I overlooked a person who is present in some other capacity? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3999 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the fuel for another vehicle? A car? Truck? A generator? No. For something else? Yope. Lots of jumps, from the cucumber and an awesome russian AN-28 known as "Ana"-bolika. I want to be clear: The spoken statements, were they all spoken at the same time, that is, in fairly rapid succession in the conversation? No. Or were they statements spread out over a longer period of time? Yes. Is one of the speakers a pilot? Is one of the speakers a trainer? Is one of the speakers a person new to diving? Is one of the speakers you? Yes. Is one of the speakers there in case of medical emergencies? No. Have I overlooked a person who is present in some other capacity? Yes. Hint: all the speakers are groups, not individuals. All the lines spoken are general sentiments among these groups. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14168 Registered: 4-2010 |
So is one of the groups you and your skydiving buddies? If so: Group 1? 2? 3? 4? Longer period of time: An hour? Day? Week? Month? Year? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4000 Registered: 9-2009 |
So is one of the groups you and your skydiving buddies? Yes. If so: Group 1? 2? 3? 4? Lines 1-3 were spoken by us, line 4 by another group. Longer period of time: An hour? Day? This. Week? Month? Year? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14178 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does Line 4 refer to the plane? To another object? More than one? To an event? More than one? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4004 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does Line 4 refer to the plane? No. To another object? More than one? This. To an event? More than one? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4005 Registered: 9-2009 |
BLOOPER: The other group consists of pilots. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14183 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are the pilots talking about other people? Is what they're talking about related to flying? Skydiving? Planes? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4007 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are the pilots talking about other people? Is what they're talking about related to flying? Skydiving? Planes? No to all. | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 308 Registered: 7-2011 |
If they aren't talking about other people - if this is NOT simply a clash of personalities - then do we have to focus MOSTLY on (1) the various "it"s that we started with, or on (2) the processes, procedures, activities? Or am I totally befuddled? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4080 Registered: 9-2009 |
If they aren't talking about other people They're not. - if this is NOT simply a clash of personalities It's not. - then do we have to focus MOSTLY on (1) the various "it"s that we started with,This. or on (2) the processes, procedures, activities? This will be more productive when you know more about the "IT"s. Or am I totally befuddled? Yope. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14293 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the situation (it #2) involve any of the objects (it #1, 3, 4)? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4110 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the situation (it #2) involve any of the objects (it #1, 3, 4)? Not directly, but explore. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14299 Registered: 4-2010 |
I can't remember if we've revealed what any of the objects are -- could you please recap? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4111 Registered: 9-2009 |
RECAP: About it1, we the skydivers said: "That's pathetic." About it2, that is, not being able to jump because of bad weather, we said "This sucks." About it3, we said "What a mess." About it4, some pilots said "What a load of junk." This all leads to a successful evening. --- It1 is an object consisting of many objects. It3 and it4 are both many objects. It3 is with the skydivers, it4 is with the pilots. It1 will eventually contain it3 and it4. There is fuel involved, but not for any vehicle. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14308 Registered: 4-2010 |
It 3: other people? Who want to be skydivers? Skydiving equipment? Is It 1 a plane? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4112 Registered: 9-2009 |
It 3: other people? Who want to be skydivers? Skydiving equipment? No to all. Is It 1 a plane? No. | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 310 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is a plane a relevant object? Is it the load of junk? Is avoidance of an accident relevant? Is the condition of one or more parachutes relevant? Could any of the situations leading to the statements exist in just about any setting (that is, settings without any references to skydiving, planes and flying in general)? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4283 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is a plane a relevant object? Is it the load of junk? Is avoidance of an accident relevant? Is the condition of one or more parachutes relevant? No to all. Could any of the situations leading to the statements exist in just about any setting (that is, settings without any references to skydiving, planes and flying in general)? Yes. | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 314 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the fuel for an appliance? Such as a lawnmower? Or snow blower? Is it the kind of fuel you buy from a pump at a petrol station? Are there any connections between the statements at all? It might as well have been "we the plumbers" and "they the former presidents of the USA"? Is the load of junk a vehicle? Something manmade? Made of Metal? Wood? Glass? Plastic? Rubber? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4289 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the fuel for an appliance? Such as a lawnmower? Or snow blower? Is it the kind of fuel you buy from a pump at a petrol station? No to all. Are there any connections between the statements at all? Yes. It might as well have been "we the plumbers" and "they the former presidents of the USA"? No. Is the load of junk a vehicle? No. Something manmade? Yes. Made of Metal? Mostly not. Wood? Mostly. Glass? No. Plastic? Some. Rubber? No. | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 321 Registered: 7-2006 |
Fuel - solid? Liquid? Gaseous? It1 - something specifically designed to hold other things? For carrying? For storage? Is it small and light enough to be carried by one person? Is it meant to? It3 and It4 - everyday items? Clothing? Toilet articles? Made out of paper? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4295 Registered: 9-2009 |
Fuel - solid? this. Liquid? Gaseous? It1 - something specifically designed to hold other things? For carrying? For storage? Is it small and light enough to be carried by one person? Is it meant to? No to all. It3 and It4 - everyday items? Yesish. Clothing? Toilet articles? Made out of paper? No to all. | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 327 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is a vehicle involved at all? Is the fuel coal? Coke? Wood? Is it intended for heating? Is it used in a stove? In an oven? In a smelter? For a bonfire? Do you find it probable that I have at least one It1? It2? It3? It4? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4314 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is a vehicle involved at all? No. Is the fuel coal? Coke? Wood? This, mostly. Is it intended for heating? Is it used in a stove? In an oven? In a smelter? For a bonfire? This. Do you find it probable that I have at least one It1? No. It2? It2 is the situation of not being able to skydive because of sucky weather. It3? Noish. It4? Noish. Depending on your circumstances, you may have had both it1, it3 and it4 at some point(s) in life. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4370 Registered: 9-2009 |
RECAP: it1, an object consisting of many objects, is pathetic. Not being able to skydive because of bad weather sucks. it3 is a mess of yesishly everyday items. it4 is a load of junk, yesishly everyday items, manmade, mostly wood, some plastic an a little metal. it1 will eventually contain it3 and it4. It1 is not any sort of container or storage. There is fuel, mostly wood, for a bonfire. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14796 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is one of them a garbage bin? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4375 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is one of them a garbage bin? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15011 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are any of the its larger than a toothbrush? Water bottle? Microwave? Fridge? TV? Bookcase? Room? House? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4414 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are any of the its larger than a toothbrush? Water bottle? Microwave? Fridge? TV? Bookcase? Room? House? It1: first bookcase-sized, then room-sized (in total). Consists of objects from bottle to bookcase size. It3: objects the size of fridges (in one or two dimensions only), water bottles (rest of dimensions) It4: Objects the size of water bottles to book cases. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15026 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is It1 any form of container? Is any it a scrap heap? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4416 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is It1 any form of container? No. Is any it a scrap heap? Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15058 Registered: 4-2010 |
Scrap heap: it1? it3? it4? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4417 Registered: 9-2009 |
Scrap heap: it1? Yesish. it3? No. it4? Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15069 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it1 an item full of scrap? A bunch of scrap from a certain object/objects? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4419 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it1 an item full of scrap? A bunch of scrap from a certain object/objects? This. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15087 Registered: 4-2010 |
Scrap metal? From a plane/planes? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4420 Registered: 9-2009 |
Scrap metal? From a plane/planes? No to both. Hint: knowing what materials it1 and it3 consist of will help. You already know it4 is mostly wooden junk. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15106 Registered: 4-2010 |
Materials of it1/it3: Metal? Wood? Plastic? Rubber? Plaster? Paper? Gum/resin? Ceramic? Clay? Glass? Plexiglass? Fiberglass? Anything else? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4426 Registered: 9-2009 |
Materials of it1: Metal? A little. Wood? Mostly. Plastic? Some. No to the rest. Rubber? Plaster? Paper? Gum/resin? Ceramic? Clay? Glass? Plexiglass? Fiberglass? Anything else? it3: Metal? Wood? Only this, nothing else. Plastic? Rubber? Plaster? Paper? Gum/resin? Ceramic? Clay? Glass? Plexiglass? Fiberglass? Anything else? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4427 Registered: 9-2009 |
CLARIFICATION: it3 is only wood. | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 802 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is it4 a junk heap whose purpose is specifically to provide somewhere for people to dispose of their junk? Or is it a bonfire? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 803 Registered: 7-2006 |
When the comment "what a load of junk" is made, is this said pessimistically (i.e. "that's no use, it's a load of junk"), or optimistically (i.e. "ooh goody - loads of useful stuff in this pile of junk")? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4432 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it4 a junk heap whose purpose is specifically to provide somewhere for people to dispose of their junk? No. Or is it a bonfire? No, but OTRT! When the comment "what a load of junk" is made, is this said pessimistically (i.e. "that's no use, it's a load of junk"), or optimistically (i.e. "ooh goody - loads of useful stuff in this pile of junk")? First the one, then the other. | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 805 Registered: 7-2006 |
So is it correct to say that it4 is a pile of junk, but which contains something of use to the group who see the junk pile? Or gives the impression it may contain something of use? Like something out of Scrapheap Challenge? (a UK program where teams of people are challenged to construct transport or devices using only items found in a 'junkyard' they are placed into. Non-uk versions probably called something else). Is something taken from the junk pile which poves of use? and leads to (or contributes to?) the happy conclusion of the tale? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4434 Registered: 9-2009 |
So is it correct to say that it4 is a pile of junk, but which contains something of use to the group who see the junk pile? Yope. Or gives the impression it may contain something of use? It contaisn something of use to someone. Like something out of Scrapheap Challenge? (a UK program where teams of people are challenged to construct transport or devices using only items found in a 'junkyard' they are placed into. Non-uk versions probably called something else). Not like this (that's my favorite program along with Mythbusters, by the way) Is something taken from the junk pile which poves of use? Everything is taken. and leads to (or contributes to?) the happy conclusion of the tale? Yes. | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 810 Registered: 7-2006 |
So, it3 is some wood, correct? (is it relevant to know specifically what kind of wood? Or what the wooden items were?) And it4 is junk, but mainly or partially wood, correct? And it1 will eventually in this tale contain the stuff from it3 and junk pile (it4) - correct? So is it1 some kind of stove? or furnace? or something into which the wood/junk are put to be burned? IF so, is this simply to heat some of the people involved? Or to heat something else? Or to melt something else? (I'm coming in late to this puzzle, so apologies if in reading through the posts I've missed something which clearly answers some or all of these questions) | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4435 Registered: 9-2009 |
So, it3 is some wood, correct? Yes. (is it relevant to know specifically what kind of wood? Yesish. Or what the wooden items were?) No/FA. And it4 is junk, but mainly or partially wood, correct? Yes. And it1 will eventually in this tale contain the stuff from it3 and junk pile (it4) - correct? Yes. So is it1 some kind of stove? or furnace? No. or something into which the wood/junk are put to be burned? Yes indeed. IF so, is this simply to heat some of the people involved? Noish (it will heat some of the people). Or to heat something else? No. Or to melt something else? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15126 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would it3 be best described as "items"? Something else? Are they just logs or lumber? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 813 Registered: 7-2006 |
...or trees? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4436 Registered: 9-2009 |
Would it3 be best described as "items"? Something else? Are they just logs or lumber? ...or trees? It3 is logs, branches and small trees. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15134 Registered: 4-2010 |
So a fire is being built, right? Is the fire part of the successful evening? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4438 Registered: 9-2009 |
So a fire is being built, right? Is the fire part of the successful evening? Yes to both! Now, connect all the "it"s together, and you have it. | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 827 Registered: 7-2006 |
You say it3(wood pile) and it4(junk pile) will eventually be contained in it1, correct? So is it1 actually some kind of container? Or just an existing bonfire (lit or not), which currently is a bit poor but improves with the addition of all the wood? Were the group of pilots seeing it4 actively looking for wood for a fire? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4439 Registered: 9-2009 |
You say it3(wood pile) and it4(junk pile) will eventually be contained in it1, correct? Yes. So is it1 actually some kind of container? No. Or just an existing bonfire (lit or not), which currently is a bit poor but improves with the addition of all the wood? Yes! In the morning the bonfire pile is pathetic, but the addition of cutoff from nearby woods, and the pile of junk, made it majestic. Were the group of pilots seeing it4 actively looking for wood for a fire? Yope. You have most of it - but how did the bad weather (it2) contribute? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15144 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you have the fire inside? Outside? Did the bad weather make it better for a fire? i.e. Was it colder because of the weather, so you'd have a better fire that warms you up, as opposed to a hot day where the fire would just be sweltering? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4440 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did you have the fire inside? Outside? This. Did the bad weather make it better for a fire? No. i.e. Was it colder because of the weather, so you'd have a better fire that warms you up, as opposed to a hot day where the fire would just be sweltering? No - a big bonfire would always be better. | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 841 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did the bad weather mean the pilots (and/or parachutists) were available to help construct the bonfire? where otherwise they'd all be in the air? Was the bonfire more than just a source of heat? A centre for a party? or a signal fire? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4445 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the bad weather mean the pilots (and/or parachutists) were available to help construct the bonfire? where otherwise they'd all be in the air? Was the bonfire more than just a source of heat? A centre for a party? or a signal fire? ***SPOILER*** On the evening of last of April, it's tradition in Sweden to build a big bonfire and shoot fireworks. But because of excellent skydiving weather, in the morning that day our bonfire pile consisted of a few planks and a couple of particle boards (really pathetic). However when clouds and a light rain arrived and we couldn't jump anymore (which sucked), we went to work gathering branches and logs from the nearby woods (a real mess), and the flying club next door gathered a pile of wood scrap from refurbishing some roofs, as well as some old worn-out furniture (a load of junk), and generously gave everything to us for our bonfire. The great fire we lit in the evening contributed to its success - with fireworks planned and fired by yours truly. Thanks for sticking with my puzzle for a whole five months - and well done solving it! |
