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Galfisk (Galfisk)
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"That's pathetic."
"This sucks."
"What a mess."
"What a load of junk."
This lead to a successful evening.
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are 4 different people speaking? 3? 2? 1? any other people present?

true story? FYOI? FSEI?

did it lead to a successful evening because steps were taken to improve the thing that was pathetic, a mess, sucked etc?

are all the statements about the same thing?

is it a physical thing? an event? a production?

were the people present responsible for generating the unsatisfactory thing in the first place?
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are 4 different people speaking? 3? 2? 1? any other people present? Two different groups are speaking.

true story? FYOI? FSEI? True story.

did it lead to a successful evening because steps were taken to improve the thing that was pathetic, a mess, sucked etc? Yesish.

are all the statements about the same thing? No.

is it a physical thing? an event? a production? There is more than one "it".

were the people present responsible for generating the unsatisfactory thing in the first place? Yesish.
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Are any of the "its" a situation? An object?
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it 1 = it 2? it 3? it 4?

it 2 = it 3? it 4?

it 3 = it 4?
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Are any of the "its" a situation? Yesish. An object? Yes.

it 1 = it 2? No. it 3? Noish. it 4? Noish.

it 2 = it 3? it 4? No to both.

it 3 = it 4? Noish.
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is it 1 an object? a situation? an event? an idea? an opinion? a judgement?

same for its 2 3 and 4 please
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it 1 = an object consisting of many objects
it 2 = a situation
it 3 = many objects
it 4 = many objects
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Are any of the objects people?

Does It 1 contain It 3? It 4?
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Are any of the objects people? No.

Does It 1 contain It 3? It 4? Eventually, yes.
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Are the two groups speaking to each other? Are they in the same location?
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Are the two groups speaking to each other? Not at that time. Are they in the same location? Roughly.
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Did the two groups come together for the successful evening? I'm assuming It 3 was initially with one group and It 4 was initially with the other, is this correct? Were items from Its 3 and 4 combined in some way? Swapped? Sold?
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Did the two groups come together for the successful evening? No, but irr. I'm assuming It 3 was initially with one group and It 4 was initially with the other, is this correct? Yes. Were items from Its 3 and 4 combined in some way? Yes. Swapped? Sold? None of these.
Good questions.
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Is a chemical reaction relevant?
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Skydiving relevant?
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Is a chemical reaction relevant? Yes.
Skydiving relevant? Yes.
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The banana's loss relevant? the banana relevant at all? The cucumber relevant? Any new planes relevant? also, could you repost the skydiving from the banana video, as the last link got lost in the disappearing chatroom archive =(
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The banana's loss relevant? the banana relevant at all? The cucumber relevant? Any new planes relevant?
It's only relevant that we have a jump plane.
See chat for videos.
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Fuel relevant?

Successful evening - of skydiving?
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Fuel relevant? Yes.

Successful evening - of skydiving? No.
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Were you supposed to go skydiving that day? Did the fuel not work? Did the plane run out of fuel? Did it even have fuel in it?
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Were you supposed to go skydiving that day? Yes. Did the fuel not work? Did the plane run out of fuel? Did it even have fuel in it? FA - the fuel for the plane is not involved.
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Did the fuel not work? The fuel that was involved worked fine.
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Did you end up not skydiving at all? Skydiving elsewhere?
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Did you end up not skydiving at all? I ended up skydiving much less than I wanted. Skydiving elsewhere? No.
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Much less than you wanted = fewer jumps? From a lower height?
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Much less than you wanted = fewer jumps? This. From a lower height?
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Hint:
It 2 = not being able to do as many jumps as I wanted, because of bad weather.
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Are the two groups divisible by the skydivers and by an audience of, say, TV journalists or sports bloggers?
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Are the two groups divisible by the skydivers Yes, one group is the skydivers. and by an audience of, say, TV journalists or sports bloggers? No, the other group is neither of the above, but they are related to the skydivers in a certain way.
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Then, in my second "group" question, are some people simply watching? Or do they have auxiliary tasks in support of the divers?
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Then, in my second "group" question, are some people simply watching? No. Or do they have auxiliary tasks in support of the divers? No.
It would help to find out more about it1, 3 and 4, and who says which.
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First, I want to be certain: Are the handful of people who are absorbed in this activity, are they all right there in the same space or area?

Since you agree to a division of people, I'd next like to ask: (1) Is the second group part of an authoritative hierachy, ranging from the pilot to the trainer to the vomit-cleaners; (2) Does the second group consist of skydivers from a rival team? (3) You wrote: "but they are related to the skydivers in a certain way." Er, are they related to you? Or to Uncle Tony Soprano?

I'm mystified. Really liking this one!
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First, I want to be certain: Are the handful of people who are absorbed in this activity, are they all right there in the same space or area? Yes.

Since you agree to a division of people, I'd next like to ask: (1) Is the second group part of an authoritative hierachy, ranging from the pilot to the trainer to the vomit-cleaners; No, but you've mentioned a key word. (2) Does the second group consist of skydivers from a rival team? No. (3) You wrote: "but they are related to the skydivers in a certain way." Er, are they related to you? Or to Uncle Tony Soprano? No, not related as in family.

I'm mystified. Really liking this one! Nice to hear. I'll be away skydiving for a week or two, but hope to be able to pop in now and then.
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I realize that I misspelled hierarchy, but that is my first guess. I suppose my next q should be about vomit. (Hey, I can ride a horse, but no stratospheres for me.)

Galfisk, are you one of the trainers or directors / decision-makers yourself?

Should I follow clues about the area (such as, were you on the ground or in the air), or should I ask more about the folks involved?

Relationships: Members of a unit who teach skydiving? Members who are taking classes for skydiving? Members of the local undertaker? (I'm sorry. That's a horrible question. But I'll leave it there, in case there's some relation.)

It's been great to make your acquaintance. Have a good time!
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Wait, I've got it! You are part of a filming crew making a Jim Carrey or a Chris Rock movie. I'm right, right?
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I realize that I misspelled hierarchy, but that is my first guess. I suppose my next q should be about vomit. (Hey, I can ride a horse, but no stratospheres for me.) No vomit involved ; )

Galfisk, are you one of the trainers or directors / decision-makers yourself? Irr.

Should I follow clues about the area Yes. (such as, were you on the ground or in the air), ground. or should I ask more about the folks involved? This too.

Relationships: Members of a unit who teach skydiving? Members who are taking classes for skydiving? Members of the local undertaker? (I'm sorry. That's a horrible question. But I'll leave it there, in case there's some relation.) No to all. The last skydiving death in Sweden was in 2005, you'll be glad to know.

It's been great to make your acquaintance. Have a good time! Will do.

Wait, I've got it! You are part of a filming crew making a Jim Carrey or a Chris Rock movie. I'm right, right? Wrong, you're wrong.
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You added, "Does It 1 contain It 3? It 4? Eventually, yes."

And the questions and motives are SO intriguing.

Does the "it" require maintenance?
Or no maintenance?

I'm grasping for clues, but I'm sleepy. I'll get back tomorrow, and thanks for a good times puzzle!


P.S. "The lines that you quoted - are they something that Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog, might say?"



(I MUST ask whether you, Galfisk, know Hans Persson" www.hanper.se)
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Sorry for not replying earlier, I've been on vacation with very limited internet access.

You added, "Does It 1 contain It 3? It 4? Eventually, yes."

And the questions and motives are SO intriguing.

Does the "it" require maintenance?
Or no maintenance? This.

I'm grasping for clues, but I'm sleepy. I'll get back tomorrow, and thanks for a good times puzzle!


P.S. "The lines that you quoted - are they something that Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog, might say?" I don't know a lot about that character, but I don't think so.



(I MUST ask whether you, Galfisk, know Hans Persson" www.hanper.se) No.
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Is there a concomitant sky-related object such as a hot-air balloon or a fighter jet escort? (Hey, you never said that we cannot be silly.)

Going back to the spoken statements:
1) Were the speakers in agreement?
2) Were the speakers arguing with each other?
3) Were the speakers trying to throw blame onto someone else?
4) Did the evening become successful because
4a) they finally solved a technical problem?
4b) they said to hell with it and went out for beer?

Do we need to know precisely where this occurs, such as a park in Stockholm? Or do we need only to know that the people are on the ground?

Wait. Are ALL of the speakers on the ground? Are some of them up in the air?

I have forgotten almost all of the chemistry I ever learned, so, if the fuel is not involved, in what way is chemistry involved?

Oh, and you wrote, "FA - the fuel for the plane is not involved." Forgive me, Galfisk, I don't know what FA stands for. I'm a newbie here.
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FA = false assumption =) fear not fiona kitteh, kaylee kitteh iz heer =D
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is something else about the plane involved? fuel, but not for the plane? is the FA that there's only one plane? fuel for more than one plane?
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Thank you, my dear kaylee kitteh!

Just occurred to me: Was someone supposed to be there but never showed up?
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Is there a concomitant sky-related object such as a hot-air balloon or a fighter jet escort? (Hey, you never said that we cannot be silly.) No other sky-related objects involved.

Going back to the spoken statements:
1) Were the speakers in agreement? Yes.
2) Were the speakers arguing with each other? No.
3) Were the speakers trying to throw blame onto someone else? No.
4) Did the evening become successful because
4a) they finally solved a technical problem? This, DYOD of "technical"
DYOD = depending on your definition

4b) they said to hell with it and went out for beer? No.

Do we need to know precisely where this occurs, Yes, it occurs at our airfield. such as a park in Stockholm? Or do we need only to know that the people are on the ground? See above.

Wait. Are ALL of the speakers on the ground? Yes. Are some of them up in the air? No.

I have forgotten almost all of the chemistry I ever learned, so, if the fuel is not involved, in what way is chemistry involved? This is not a yes/no question.

Oh, and you wrote, "FA - the fuel for the plane is not involved." Forgive me, Galfisk, I don't know what FA stands for. I'm a newbie here. You know now : )

is something else about the plane involved? No. fuel, but not for the plane? Yes. is the FA that there's only one plane? No. fuel for more than one plane? No.

Just occurred to me: Was someone supposed to be there but never showed up? No, nothing like this.
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Is the fuel for another vehicle? A car? Truck? For something else? A generator?
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o hai Galfisk...any good jumps lately? =) new bananas or cucumbers? (fyi fiona kitteh, the banana and cucumber were/are Galfisk's planes that I first knew of =) sadly the banana vanished, but is there a banana number two yet? or three, even?)
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Kaylee kitteh, you have been appointed my guide through these puzzling labyrinths. And I know a perfect gift for you, to represent your torch in the darkness, or symbolizing your cloak of wizardry, or something. The rest of you, please forgive our love fest!

I want to be clear: The spoken statements, were they all spoken at the same time, that is, in fairly rapid succession in the conversation?

Or were they statements spread out over a longer period of time?

Is one of the speakers a pilot?
Is one of the speakers a trainer?
Is one of the speakers a person new to diving?
Is one of the speakers you?
Is one of the speakers there in case of medical emergencies?
Have I overlooked a person who is present in some other capacity?
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Is the fuel for another vehicle? A car? Truck? A generator? No. For something else? Yope.

Lots of jumps, from the cucumber and an awesome russian AN-28 known as "Ana"-bolika.

I want to be clear: The spoken statements, were they all spoken at the same time, that is, in fairly rapid succession in the conversation? No.

Or were they statements spread out over a longer period of time? Yes.

Is one of the speakers a pilot?
Is one of the speakers a trainer?
Is one of the speakers a person new to diving?
Is one of the speakers you? Yes.
Is one of the speakers there in case of medical emergencies? No.
Have I overlooked a person who is present in some other capacity? Yes.
Hint: all the speakers are groups, not individuals. All the lines spoken are general sentiments among these groups.
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So is one of the groups you and your skydiving buddies? If so: Group 1? 2? 3? 4?

Longer period of time: An hour? Day? Week? Month? Year?
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So is one of the groups you and your skydiving buddies? Yes. If so: Group 1? 2? 3? 4? Lines 1-3 were spoken by us, line 4 by another group.

Longer period of time: An hour? Day? This. Week? Month? Year?
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Does Line 4 refer to the plane? To another object? More than one? To an event? More than one?
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Does Line 4 refer to the plane? No. To another object? More than one? This. To an event? More than one?
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BLOOPER:
The other group consists of pilots.
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Are the pilots talking about other people? Is what they're talking about related to flying? Skydiving? Planes?
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Are the pilots talking about other people? Is what they're talking about related to flying? Skydiving? Planes? No to all.
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If they aren't talking about other people - if this is NOT simply a clash of personalities - then do we have to focus MOSTLY on (1) the various "it"s that we started with, or on (2) the processes, procedures, activities?

Or am I totally befuddled?
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If they aren't talking about other people They're not. - if this is NOT simply a clash of personalities It's not. - then do we have to focus MOSTLY on (1) the various "it"s that we started with,This. or on (2) the processes, procedures, activities? This will be more productive when you know more about the "IT"s.

Or am I totally befuddled? Yope.
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Does the situation (it #2) involve any of the objects (it #1, 3, 4)?
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Does the situation (it #2) involve any of the objects (it #1, 3, 4)? Not directly, but explore.
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I can't remember if we've revealed what any of the objects are -- could you please recap?
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RECAP:
About it1, we the skydivers said: "That's pathetic."
About it2, that is, not being able to jump because of bad weather, we said "This sucks."
About it3, we said "What a mess."
About it4, some pilots said "What a load of junk."

This all leads to a successful evening.
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It1 is an object consisting of many objects.
It3 and it4 are both many objects.
It3 is with the skydivers, it4 is with the pilots.
It1 will eventually contain it3 and it4.
There is fuel involved, but not for any vehicle.
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It 3: other people? Who want to be skydivers? Skydiving equipment?

Is It 1 a plane?
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It 3: other people? Who want to be skydivers? Skydiving equipment? No to all.

Is It 1 a plane? No.
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Is a plane a relevant object?
Is it the load of junk?
Is avoidance of an accident relevant?
Is the condition of one or more parachutes relevant?
Could any of the situations leading to the statements exist in just about any setting (that is, settings without any references to skydiving, planes and flying in general)?
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Is a plane a relevant object?
Is it the load of junk?
Is avoidance of an accident relevant?
Is the condition of one or more parachutes relevant? No to all.
Could any of the situations leading to the statements exist in just about any setting (that is, settings without any references to skydiving, planes and flying in general)? Yes.
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Is the fuel for an appliance?
Such as a lawnmower?
Or snow blower?
Is it the kind of fuel you buy from a pump at a petrol station?
Are there any connections between the statements at all?
It might as well have been "we the plumbers" and "they the former presidents of the USA"?
Is the load of junk a vehicle?
Something manmade?
Made of Metal?
Wood?
Glass?
Plastic?
Rubber?
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Is the fuel for an appliance?
Such as a lawnmower?
Or snow blower?
Is it the kind of fuel you buy from a pump at a petrol station? No to all.
Are there any connections between the statements at all? Yes.
It might as well have been "we the plumbers" and "they the former presidents of the USA"? No.
Is the load of junk a vehicle? No.
Something manmade? Yes.
Made of Metal? Mostly not.
Wood? Mostly.
Glass? No.
Plastic? Some.
Rubber? No.
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Fuel - solid?
Liquid?
Gaseous?
It1 - something specifically designed to hold other things?
For carrying?
For storage?
Is it small and light enough to be carried by one person?
Is it meant to?
It3 and It4 - everyday items?
Clothing?
Toilet articles?
Made out of paper?
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Fuel - solid? this.
Liquid?
Gaseous?
It1 - something specifically designed to hold other things?
For carrying?
For storage?
Is it small and light enough to be carried by one person?
Is it meant to? No to all.
It3 and It4 - everyday items? Yesish.
Clothing?
Toilet articles?
Made out of paper? No to all.
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Is a vehicle involved at all?
Is the fuel coal?
Coke?
Wood?
Is it intended for heating?
Is it used in a stove?
In an oven?
In a smelter?
For a bonfire?
Do you find it probable that I have at least one It1?
It2?
It3?
It4?
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Is a vehicle involved at all? No.
Is the fuel coal?
Coke?
Wood? This, mostly.
Is it intended for heating?
Is it used in a stove?
In an oven?
In a smelter?
For a bonfire? This.
Do you find it probable that I have at least one It1? No.
It2? It2 is the situation of not being able to skydive because of sucky weather.
It3? Noish.
It4? Noish.
Depending on your circumstances, you may have had both it1, it3 and it4 at some point(s) in life.
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RECAP:
it1, an object consisting of many objects, is pathetic.
Not being able to skydive because of bad weather sucks.
it3 is a mess of yesishly everyday items.
it4 is a load of junk, yesishly everyday items, manmade, mostly wood, some plastic an a little metal.

it1 will eventually contain it3 and it4. It1 is not any sort of container or storage.

There is fuel, mostly wood, for a bonfire.
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Is one of them a garbage bin?
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Is one of them a garbage bin? No.
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Are any of the its larger than a toothbrush? Water bottle? Microwave? Fridge? TV? Bookcase? Room? House?
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Are any of the its larger than a toothbrush? Water bottle? Microwave? Fridge? TV? Bookcase? Room? House?
It1: first bookcase-sized, then room-sized (in total). Consists of objects from bottle to bookcase size.
It3: objects the size of fridges (in one or two dimensions only), water bottles (rest of dimensions)
It4: Objects the size of water bottles to book cases.
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Is It1 any form of container?
Is any it a scrap heap?
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Is It1 any form of container? No.
Is any it a scrap heap? Yes.
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Scrap heap: it1? it3? it4?
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Scrap heap: it1? Yesish. it3? No. it4? Yes.
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Was it1 an item full of scrap? A bunch of scrap from a certain object/objects?
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Was it1 an item full of scrap? A bunch of scrap from a certain object/objects? This.
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Scrap metal? From a plane/planes?
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Scrap metal? From a plane/planes? No to both.
Hint: knowing what materials it1 and it3 consist of will help. You already know it4 is mostly wooden junk.
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Materials of it1/it3: Metal? Wood? Plastic? Rubber? Plaster? Paper? Gum/resin? Ceramic? Clay? Glass? Plexiglass? Fiberglass? Anything else?
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Materials of it1: Metal? A little. Wood? Mostly. Plastic? Some. No to the rest. Rubber? Plaster? Paper? Gum/resin? Ceramic? Clay? Glass? Plexiglass? Fiberglass? Anything else?

it3: Metal? Wood? Only this, nothing else. Plastic? Rubber? Plaster? Paper? Gum/resin? Ceramic? Clay? Glass? Plexiglass? Fiberglass? Anything else?
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CLARIFICATION: it3 is only wood.
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Is it4 a junk heap whose purpose is specifically to provide somewhere for people to dispose of their junk? Or is it a bonfire?
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When the comment "what a load of junk" is made, is this said pessimistically (i.e. "that's no use, it's a load of junk"), or optimistically (i.e. "ooh goody - loads of useful stuff in this pile of junk")?
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Is it4 a junk heap whose purpose is specifically to provide somewhere for people to dispose of their junk? No. Or is it a bonfire? No, but OTRT!

When the comment "what a load of junk" is made, is this said pessimistically (i.e. "that's no use, it's a load of junk"), or optimistically (i.e. "ooh goody - loads of useful stuff in this pile of junk")? First the one, then the other.
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So is it correct to say that it4 is a pile of junk, but which contains something of use to the group who see the junk pile? Or gives the impression it may contain something of use?

Like something out of Scrapheap Challenge? (a UK program where teams of people are challenged to construct transport or devices using only items found in a 'junkyard' they are placed into. Non-uk versions probably called something else).

Is something taken from the junk pile which poves of use? and leads to (or contributes to?) the happy conclusion of the tale?
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So is it correct to say that it4 is a pile of junk, but which contains something of use to the group who see the junk pile? Yope. Or gives the impression it may contain something of use? It contaisn something of use to someone.

Like something out of Scrapheap Challenge? (a UK program where teams of people are challenged to construct transport or devices using only items found in a 'junkyard' they are placed into. Non-uk versions probably called something else). Not like this (that's my favorite program along with Mythbusters, by the way)

Is something taken from the junk pile which poves of use? Everything is taken. and leads to (or contributes to?) the happy conclusion of the tale? Yes.
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So, it3 is some wood, correct? (is it relevant to know specifically what kind of wood? Or what the wooden items were?)

And it4 is junk, but mainly or partially wood, correct? And it1 will eventually in this tale contain the stuff from it3 and junk pile (it4) - correct?

So is it1 some kind of stove? or furnace? or something into which the wood/junk are put to be burned? IF so, is this simply to heat some of the people involved? Or to heat something else? Or to melt something else?

(I'm coming in late to this puzzle, so apologies if in reading through the posts I've missed something which clearly answers some or all of these questions)
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So, it3 is some wood, correct? Yes. (is it relevant to know specifically what kind of wood? Yesish. Or what the wooden items were?) No/FA.

And it4 is junk, but mainly or partially wood, correct? Yes. And it1 will eventually in this tale contain the stuff from it3 and junk pile (it4) - correct? Yes.

So is it1 some kind of stove? or furnace? No. or something into which the wood/junk are put to be burned? Yes indeed. IF so, is this simply to heat some of the people involved? Noish (it will heat some of the people). Or to heat something else? No. Or to melt something else? No.
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Would it3 be best described as "items"? Something else? Are they just logs or lumber?
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...or trees?
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Would it3 be best described as "items"? Something else?
Are they just logs or lumber? ...or trees? It3 is logs, branches and small trees.
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So a fire is being built, right? Is the fire part of the successful evening?
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So a fire is being built, right? Is the fire part of the successful evening? Yes to both!
Now, connect all the "it"s together, and you have it.
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You say it3(wood pile) and it4(junk pile) will eventually be contained in it1, correct?

So is it1 actually some kind of container? Or just an existing bonfire (lit or not), which currently is a bit poor but improves with the addition of all the wood?

Were the group of pilots seeing it4 actively looking for wood for a fire?
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You say it3(wood pile) and it4(junk pile) will eventually be contained in it1, correct? Yes.

So is it1 actually some kind of container? No. Or just an existing bonfire (lit or not), which currently is a bit poor but improves with the addition of all the wood? Yes! In the morning the bonfire pile is pathetic, but the addition of cutoff from nearby woods, and the pile of junk, made it majestic.

Were the group of pilots seeing it4 actively looking for wood for a fire? Yope.

You have most of it - but how did the bad weather (it2) contribute?
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Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 5:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you have the fire inside? Outside?
Did the bad weather make it better for a fire? i.e. Was it colder because of the weather, so you'd have a better fire that warms you up, as opposed to a hot day where the fire would just be sweltering?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 7:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you have the fire inside? Outside? This.
Did the bad weather make it better for a fire? No. i.e. Was it colder because of the weather, so you'd have a better fire that warms you up, as opposed to a hot day where the fire would just be sweltering? No - a big bonfire would always be better.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 8:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the bad weather mean the pilots (and/or parachutists) were available to help construct the bonfire? where otherwise they'd all be in the air?
Was the bonfire more than just a source of heat? A centre for a party? or a signal fire?
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Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 10:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the bad weather mean the pilots (and/or parachutists) were available to help construct the bonfire? where otherwise they'd all be in the air?
Was the bonfire more than just a source of heat? A centre for a party? or a signal fire?
***SPOILER***
On the evening of last of April, it's tradition in Sweden to build a big bonfire and shoot fireworks. But because of excellent skydiving weather, in the morning that day our bonfire pile consisted of a few planks and a couple of particle boards (really pathetic). However when clouds and a light rain arrived and we couldn't jump anymore (which sucked), we went to work gathering branches and logs from the nearby woods (a real mess), and the flying club next door gathered a pile of wood scrap from refurbishing some roofs, as well as some old worn-out furniture (a load of junk), and generously gave everything to us for our bonfire.
The great fire we lit in the evening contributed to its success - with fireworks planned and fired by yours truly.

Thanks for sticking with my puzzle for a whole five months - and well done solving it!

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