| Author | Message | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1474 Registered: 9-2009 |
So how many horses do I need for my men? I still don't get it! | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1183 Registered: 8-2001 |
Based on real life? Fictional source? From your imagination? I = You, Rbruma? Is the puzzle statement implying that someone (you?) are saying this? Horses = literal, living horses? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1476 Registered: 9-2009 |
Based on real life? Yes, no to the rest Fictional source? From your imagination? I = You, Rbruma? Yours truly Is the puzzle statement implying that someone (you?) are saying this? Yes, I Horses = literal, living horses? Hard to answer. Let's try with Noish, as Yope might be too misleading | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1186 Registered: 8-2001 |
Are the "horses" of genus Equus? Are the Noish horses alive? Were they ever alive and have become extinct? Or are they representations of horses? Sculptures? Are games relevant? Board? Video games? | ||
| Jacek (Jacek)
New member Username: Jacek Post Number: 63 Registered: 5-2011 |
Is a mathematical exersice inolved? Or a LARP game? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1479 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are the "horses" of genus Equus? Yope. Beware FA Are the Noish horses alive? See above Were they ever alive and have become extinct? No, and FA lurking here also Or are they representations of horses? No Sculptures? No Are games relevant? Board? Video games? No to these | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1480 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is a mathematical exersice inolved? No Or a LARP game? No games involved | ||
| Jacek (Jacek)
New member Username: Jacek Post Number: 65 Registered: 5-2011 |
When you said it to someone, was it in fact a metaphor of something else than real horses and men? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1482 Registered: 9-2009 |
When you said it to someone, was it in fact a metaphor of something else than real horses Yesish, I wouldn't call it a metaphor but something along these lines and men? No | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 1095 Registered: 5-2009 |
Are there images/pictures of horses relevant? Fictional horses? Otherwise imagined horses? Men: HAM? Literal, living men? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1484 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are there images/pictures of horses relevant? Fictional horses? Otherwise imagined horses? No to all Men: HAM? Literal, living men? HA, literal, living, gender irrelevant | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1190 Registered: 8-2001 |
Does your statement reference a quote or other saying? Is the FA using the plural of horses? Is it a single horse in question? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 868 Registered: 2-2011 |
does it refer to horsepower? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3846 Registered: 9-2010 |
All the king's horses and all the king's men? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 872 Registered: 2-2011 |
does it refer to a brand name eg beer? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1485 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does your statement reference a quote or other saying? No Is the FA using the plural of horses? No Is it a single horse in question? No does it refer to horsepower? No All the king's horses and all the king's men? Nothing of the sort does it refer to a brand name eg beer? No, but OTRT! | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1217 Registered: 8-2001 |
An ad jingle? Product slogan? Songs relevant? I now have Toby Keith and Willie Nelson singing "Whiskey for my Men, Beer for my Horses" in my head. :D | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3853 Registered: 9-2010 |
*too* Thanks, Vesica kitteh...=D so is that song relevant, Rbruma? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1495 Registered: 9-2009 |
An ad jingle? No Product slogan? Not a slogan but still OTRT. Might be helpful to determine the product Songs relevant? Not at all I now have Toby Keith and Willie Nelson singing "Whiskey for my Men, Beer for my Horses" in my head. :D Let beer and whiskey come for me and my men, however alcohol is not relevant either.. at least in this puzzle *too* Thanks, Vesica kitteh...=D so is that song relevant, Rbruma? Not for this puzzle, but I'm going to listen to it. If that's another nice drinking song, you are in trouble. My wife is just waiting... :-) | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1496 Registered: 9-2009 |
Damn tune, I'm listening it over and over... SHORT RECAP So how many horses do I need for my men? I still don't get it! A product is relevant. It isn't beer, ads or songs. About the horses -- there are some yopes and maybe some FA's. The men are just men, gender irrelevant. All adults. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1497 Registered: 9-2009 |
Damn tune, I'm listening it over and over... SHORT RECAP So how many horses do I need for my men? I still don't get it! A product is relevant. It isn't beer, ads or songs. About the horses -- there are some yopes and maybe some FA's. The men are just men, gender irrelevant. All adults. | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 520 Registered: 4-2007 |
Are you organizing a trip? for a group of friends? and are in need of transportation? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 521 Registered: 4-2007 |
Would "horses" be a hyperbola rather than a metaphor? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1499 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are you organizing a trip? for a group of friends? and are in need of transportation? No trip involved Would "horses" be a hyperbola rather than a metaphor? No, I think metaphor is closer | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1419 Registered: 12-2010 |
the product - food? clothing? electronic devices? anything related to entertainment (books, CDs, games etc)? household items? toiletries? anything related to transportation? communication? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1503 Registered: 9-2009 |
the product - food? clothing? electronic devices? anything related to entertainment (books, CDs, games etc)? household items? toiletries? anything related to transportation? communication? No to all really, though communication can be involved | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1239 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is the product a good? A service? An experience? If it's not quite a metaphor, is it instead an analogy? If it is a metaphor-type thing, is the issue that it is a specific kind of metaphor? A simile? A parable? An allegory? A metonym? A synecdoche? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1507 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the product a good? A service? This one, related to a good An experience? If it's not quite a metaphor, is it instead an analogy? Yes, according to the definition from wiki: a cognitive process of transferring information or meaning from a particular subject (the analogue or source) to another particular subject (the target). I might add that it was humorous (in my opinion) and that something very relevant has not been yet discovered No to the rest If it is a metaphor-type thing, is the issue that it is a specific kind of metaphor? A simile? A parable? An allegory? A metonym? A synecdoche? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1260 Registered: 8-2001 |
Customer service? Tech support? The Butterball Turkey Hotline? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1510 Registered: 9-2009 |
Customer service? Tech support? The Butterball Turkey Hotline? No to all | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 912 Registered: 2-2011 |
are the horses required in a work environment? leisure? sport? worship? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1515 Registered: 9-2009 |
are the horses required in a work environment? YES leisure? sport? worship? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1279 Registered: 8-2001 |
Are the horses needed for the work environment in the analogy? Or by you, in your work environment? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1523 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are the horses needed for the work environment in the analogy? I don't understand, please rephrase Or by you, in your work environment? YES. I need the "horses" | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 940 Registered: 2-2011 |
do the horses refer to training? as in horses for courses? aargh this pun thing is catching! is the working environment an office? a shop? a factory? indoors? outdoors? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1307 Registered: 8-2001 |
You said there was an analogy involved...I was asking if you needed literal horses for your work? OR if the "horses" were in the analogy and you need the analog item that is being compared to horses. As in Horses are to X as (what you need) is to (Your work). Cavalry relevant? Armies? Cowboys? Knights? Century relevant? Country relevant? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1524 Registered: 9-2009 |
do the horses refer to training? No as in horses for courses? No aargh this pun thing is catching! Hopefully! is the working environment an office? Yes a shop? a factory? indoors? Yes outdoors? The rest are a no You said there was an analogy involved...I was asking if you needed literal horses for your work? I see. No literal horses are needed OR if the "horses" were in the analogy and you need the analog item that is being compared to horses. This one As in Horses are to X as (what you need) is to (Your work). In a sense, but beware FA. It's not like I need horsepower or something like that. A few more questions will clear everything up, a vital question has not yet come forward Cavalry relevant? Armies? Cowboys? Knights? Century relevant? Country relevant? YES, with a very tiny ish. No to the rest | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 951 Registered: 2-2011 |
phone line? computer? desk? chair? heating? air con? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1528 Registered: 9-2009 |
phone line? computer? If you ask if this is relevant, YES! If not please rephrase desk? chair? heating? air con? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1332 Registered: 8-2001 |
Country: US? UK? Somewhere in Europe? Africa? Asia? South America? Canada? Are the metaphorical horses being ridden? Herded? Are they pulling plows? Is the saying "my kingdom for a horse" relevant? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1530 Registered: 9-2009 |
Country: US? UK? Somewhere in Europe? This one, no to the rest Africa? Asia? South America? Canada? Are the metaphorical horses being ridden? Herded? Are they pulling plows? Is the saying "my kingdom for a horse" relevant? ****** RECAP ****** Puzzle statement: So how many horses do I need for my men? I still don't get it! Established so far: 1. I need the "horses" for my job, which happens in an office and has to do with computers 2. The "horses" are a sort of analogy, metaphor, or a pun. There's a better word than these but it will prematurely end the puzzle. 3. I do not need real horses for anything. Only one thing is related to the horses, but it does not relate to the way a horse looks like, is raised or used. 4. A certain country is relevant, that it is to be found in Europe. Only one aspect -- that I guess is evident -- should be known about that country to ask the relevant question. I will fill in the rest. 5. The "horses" that I need can be likened to a brand name, but it's really a (trade?) name that one producer calls some services related to some of his products. Remaining: What is the link between the real horses and the ones that I need? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 961 Registered: 2-2011 |
Is it Pegasus? I believe its a financial software package, so maybe you need to know how many licences to buy? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1534 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it Pegasus? No I believe its a financial software package, so maybe you need to know how many licences to buy? Indeed we are talking about software licenses, and how many to buy! So what's the link? Very well done, we're almost there! | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 966 Registered: 2-2011 |
do we need to guess the name of the package? is the name of the package horse related? (I'm so-o disappointed it's not Pegasus) or is the name of the manufacturer? or the supplier? is the word "horse" in the name? is the package financial? stock control? logistics? CAD? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1537 Registered: 9-2009 |
do we need to guess the name of the package? No. It's not a package, actually, only some way of licensing said package is the name of the package horse related? In my mind (I'm so-o disappointed it's not Pegasus That would have been an even better puzzle :-)) or is the name of the manufacturer? or the supplier? No to these two is the word "horse" in the name? Of the pachage? No. Of the licensing option? Yes! How? is the package financial? stock control? logistics? CAD? None of these | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1529 Registered: 12-2010 |
Trojan Horse relevant? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1538 Registered: 9-2009 |
Trojan Horse relevant? No. I think there's an underlying FA about the word "horse" that keeps staying around | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 782 Registered: 6-2003 |
Any phonetic equivalent of "horse" relevant? or a different word for "horse"? maybe "mount"? Is the relevant country in North? East? South? West? Central Europe? Does it still exist? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1353 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is "horse" an acronym? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1540 Registered: 9-2009 |
Any phonetic equivalent of "horse" relevant? or a different word for "horse"? YES, explore, good q! maybe "mount"? Not this kind of equivalence Is the relevant country in North? East? South? West? Central Europe? Does it still exist? It's Romania, to save you the trouble. However, you need to know only one single aspect of the country -- one shared with many other countries -- to ask the relevant question. I'll fill in the rest Is "horse" an acronym? YOPE! -- very good q | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1374 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is the different word an acronym? Pony? Nag? Mare? Stallion? Colt? Foal? Steed? Bronco? Filly? Is the licensing option on that allows a limited number of concurrent users? A limited number of installs? A limited number of user IDs? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1543 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the different word an acronym? YES!, and FA to all listed below Pony? Nag? Mare? Stallion? Colt? Foal? Steed? Bronco? Filly? Is the licensing option on that allows a limited number of concurrent users? Not necessarily concurrent, it is required for every user that connects to that particular software package. Some products do use concurrent user licenses. A limited number of installs? A limited number of user IDs? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 982 Registered: 2-2011 |
horsepower? - HP - Hewlett Packard? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1381 Registered: 8-2001 |
I'm confused...you said "or a different word for "horse"? YES, explore, good q! And I asked is the different word (for "horse") an acronym..to which you said yes. Perhaps Shez is right... Also - Are the specifics of the licensing relevant (since you didn't actually answer my questions about that)?? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1382 Registered: 8-2001 |
Based on your answers re: licensing options.. So it's an option (the option that has something about "horse" in the name) that requires a license to be purchased for each user? Concurrent user options do not require licenses for EACH user, rather it's a server install that has a maximum number of users that can be "in" at any one time. Say you have 20 employees and they all need to use the program sometimes, but most don't use it daily. A licensing option that allows 4 users to be in the program at a time might work fine for that situtation and would be much cheaper than 20 licenses. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1545 Registered: 9-2009 |
horsepower? - HP - Hewlett Packard? No I'm confused...you said "or a different word for "horse"? YES, explore, good q! And I asked is the different word (for "horse") an acronym..to which you said yes. It is Perhaps Shez is right... No Also - Are the specifics of the licensing relevant (since you didn't actually answer my questions about that)?? No, only the name -- or rather the acronym -- of it Based on your answers re: licensing options.. So it's an option (the option that has something about "horse" in the name) that requires a license to be purchased for each user? I don't know if I follow this correctly, but it's not an option -- you have to do that in order to legally use the software Concurrent user options do not require licenses for EACH user, rather it's a server install that has a maximum number of users that can be "in" at any one time. Say you have 20 employees and they all need to use the program sometimes, but most don't use it daily. A licensing option that allows 4 users to be in the program at a time might work fine for that situtation and would be much cheaper than 20 licenses. Thanks :-) I work in IT & Telco for 11 years so I have the big picture that you describe, but some options still confuse me SHORT RECAP I need "horses" for my men. The "horses" are of course not natural horses, since they are software licenses. A connection exists between the word "horse" and the acronym of that computer license. The country is relevant for the puzzle. In order to ask for the type of connection, one single obvious thing you need to know about the country, a thing that it shares with many other countries of the world, though the puzzle in itself will not work in any other -- but we shouldn't get so far. Discovering the connection will require me to $poil. A FA has been present in all attempts to discover the connection, thus far. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1405 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ah, I see. Also, cool - because not knowing you profession, I didn't want to be percieved as being insulting if I was explaining something in too much detail. Is the country in: North America? South America? Europe? Asia? Africa? The Middle East? Do they use English? Is this relevant? Is the acronym made of English Words? Is the acronym itself an English word? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1546 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the country in: North America? South America? Europe? This one, as we've already established that is Romania Asia? Africa? The Middle East? Do they use English? NO! Is this relevant?YES!! Is the acronym made of English Words? Yes Is the acronym itself an English word? NO, but more importantly... Very good questions. We're almost there | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 790 Registered: 6-2003 |
Are these Client Access Licenses (CAL)? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 999 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it a Romanian word? Latin? Equus? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1406 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balan? Minz? I think Sundowner's got it. CALs - very clever! | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1548 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are these Client Access Licenses (CAL)? Indeed they are, well done! is it a Romanian word? It is Latin? No Equus? No Balan? I don't even know myself what this is Minz? No I think Sundowner's got it. He did a wonderful job, twice in a row CALs - very clever! ****** SPOILER ****** I work in IT, but mainly in Telco and H/W business. I had a few weeks ago to evaluate some licensing options for MS SQL server for some customers, and I was seemingly unable to understand the various licensing options that the MS dealer presented to me, especially related to those Client Access Licenses (CALs). Exhausted, I asked him (in Romanian): "Spare me the details, so how many horses do I need for my men?" A "CAL" is a "HORSE" in Romanian. My word was the plural "CAI" that would be translated as "HORSES". Thanks to all who participated and especially to Sundowner for the final solve. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1413 Registered: 8-2001 |
The internet tells me "balan" is a Romanian word for a "paint" pony or a white horse dappled with another color. VERY VERY clever! Loved this one. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1556 Registered: 9-2009 |
Glad you liked it. About the "balan" thing, all the authoritative dictionaries of the language that I can find give it as a folk word for "blonde", or a human or animal with a "blonde" / white hair. So you must have different sources. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1443 Registered: 8-2001 |
On second look, the Interet points to "balan" as a loan word from further north than Romania and indicates it as the possible source for the usage "Blond/white haired". Tee hee. Ignore me. :D |
