| Author | Message | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1485 Registered: 8-2001 |
Going to try something a little different here and see how well you can get inside the mind of a criminal. Police in the this case have a good guess what happened. How about you? Why only O? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1565 Registered: 9-2009 |
"O" as the letter, not "0" (zero), correct? Is "O" an initial? Of a name of a person? Of an organization? If of a person: H? A? M? Has a crime been committed? Attempted? The person asking this question: You? The police? The criminal? The general public? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1486 Registered: 8-2001 |
"O" as the letter, not "0" (zero), correct? Correct. The letter "O" Is "O" an initial? Yope Of a name of a person? Yope Of an organization? No If of a person: H? A? M? FA Has a crime been committed? Yes Attempted? Yes and completed. The person asking this question: You? Yes The police? Yes The criminal? No The general public? Yes, of those who heard the story. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 879 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is the "O" at the crime scene? Was the "O" ever alone? or was the "O" part of a word initially? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1492 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is the "O" at the crime scene? Yes Was the "O" ever alone? YOPE or was the "O" part of a word initially? YOPE. Explore these. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1038 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the crime scene the big HOLLYWOOD sign? is the O still with the other letters? but moved or marked in some way? does/did this O form part of the name of a famous person? a fictional person? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1499 Registered: 8-2001 |
is the crime scene the big HOLLYWOOD sign? No, but very clever is the O still with the other letters? Yope but moved or marked in some way? Yes does/did this O form part of the name of a famous person? Not that I know a fictional person? No Big FA here, but hopefully it will get worked out. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1040 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the O a 3D object? or does it appear in written form? Alphabetti Spaghetti relevant? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1504 Registered: 8-2001 |
is the O a 3D object? No and same FA or does it appear in written form? Yes and same FA Alphabetti Spaghetti relevant? No | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1558 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did the criminal(s?) leave the O at the crime scene? Relevant what it was written with? If so, a pen? pencil? chalk? blood? Was the crime theft? robbery? murder? manslaughter? assault? rape? a white collar crome? Is this a true story? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3322 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was the "O" at the crime scene before the criminal arrived? Did it arrive at the scene at the same time as the criminal? Did it arrive with the criminal? Did the criminal create it? Did it arrive at the crime scene by some other means? Was the crime committed during the day? Or night? Is this relevant? Did the crime involve vandalism? Theft? Property damage? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1505 Registered: 8-2001 |
Doriana Did the criminal(s?) leave the O at the crime scene? No Relevant what it was written with? No If so, a pen? pencil? chalk? blood? Assume printed Was the crime theft? Yes robbery? murder? manslaughter? assault? rape? a white collar crome? No to these Is this a true story? Yes Ixoye724 Was the "O" at the crime scene before the criminal arrived? Yes Did it arrive at the scene at the same time as the criminal? No Did it arrive with the criminal? No Did the criminal create it? No Did it arrive at the crime scene by some other means? No (?) Was the crime committed during the day? No Or night? This Is this relevant? Yes, but only in that stealing things is easier in the dark. Did the crime involve vandalism? Theft? Property damage? Theft | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3326 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is the "O" directly related to the motive for the theft? Or is it something that's coincidentally at the crime scene? Is it relevant what was stolen? Was anything actually stolen? Was the "O", either alone or with other letters, some sort of calling card the criminal wanted to leave behind? Has this criminal successfully committed any theft previously? So did the police detect a pattern based on the "O"? Could the "O", in and of itself, be used as evidence to convict the criminal? Or some aspect of it? The appearance of it? So there was a visible letter O somewhere at the crime scene? Like on a sign? Written on paper? Stamped on something? Typed on a computer monitor? On a computer keyboard? Is the "O" capital or lower case? Does this matter? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 361 Registered: 1-2010 |
Were there many "O"s? Did the criminal deface them somehow? Emphasize them? Move them? Get rid of them? Are any other letters relevant? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1507 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye724 Is the "O" directly related to the motive for the theft? Yes! Or is it something that's coincidentally at the crime scene? No Is it relevant what was stolen? Yes, very Was anything actually stolen? Yes Was the "O", either alone or with other letters, some sort of calling card the criminal wanted to leave behind? As revealed by Hominid's questions below, more than one "O". One very relevant one was alone. Has this criminal successfully committed any theft previously? Irrelevant So did the police detect a pattern based on the "O"? Irrelevant Could the "O", in and of itself, be used as evidence to convict the criminal? No Or some aspect of it? No The appearance of it? No So there was a visible letter O somewhere at the crime scene? Yes Like on a sign? Yes, it was a sign Written on paper? Printed on Paper Stamped on something? No Typed on a computer monitor? No On a computer keyboard? No (though there were probably a few keyboards at the crime scene) Is the "O" capital or lower case? Capital Does this matter? Perhaps a little Hominid Were there many "O"s? Yes! And as discovered above, ONE of them was alone. Did the criminal deface them somehow? No Emphasize them? No Move them? Yes... Get rid of them? No Are any other letters relevant? Yes...but that will become more clear as we solve. There are no other specific letters relevant at this time. Simply that there are other letters. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 888 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was there only one criminal? Or a group? Did he(they) steal something tangible? Money? Did he(they) steal one item? More? Was the item(s) stolen bigger than a fist? a breadbox? a car? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1513 Registered: 8-2001 |
Was there only one criminal? Yes Or a group? No Did he(they) steal something tangible? Yes Money? No Did he(they) steal one item? No More? Yes Was the item(s) stolen bigger than a fist? Yes a breadbox? No a car? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3332 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did the criminal steal something that would be generally viewed as valuable? Such as... jewelry? electronics? computers/laptops? ipads? TV's? game systems? Was the criminal lured to the crime scene by the "O", and what it meant? Or was he lured by something else? Did he steal what he came to steal? Or did he come for one thing and end up taking something else? Was the "O" printed on a 8.5" x 11" sheet of paper? Something bigger? Smaller? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1514 Registered: 8-2001 |
Did the criminal steal something that would be generally viewed as valuable? Yes Such as... jewelry? electronics? computers/laptops? ipads? TV's? game systems? None of these Was the criminal lured to the crime scene by the "O", and what it meant? No Or was he lured by something else? Yes Did he steal what he came to steal? Yope! Or did he come for one thing and end up taking something else? This is closer, but the reason is the solve for this puzzle. Was the "O" printed on a 8.5" x 11" sheet of paper? Something bigger? Smaller? Likely smaller, perhaps 5"x5" or so. | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 363 Registered: 1-2010 |
Was the O torn from the others? Cut? Was it clearly visible? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1045 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the O printed on an envelope? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 900 Registered: 1-2011 |
Were the stolen items marked with "O's"? Were the items not stolen (left by thief) marked with "O's"? Did the thief steal mobiles? Did the thief steal the items of historical value?(works of art? old books? antiques?) | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1518 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hominid Was the O torn from the others? No Cut? No Was it clearly visible? Yes Shez was the O printed on an envelope? Could be, but more likely a paper or sticker. Redwine Were the stolen items marked with "O's"? Yes... Were the items not stolen (left by thief) marked with "O's"? There were "O"s left behind. Did the thief steal mobiles? Like phones or the things you hang over cribs? No to both. Did the thief steal the items of historical value?(works of art? old books? antiques?) No to these I am headed out of town soon on business so... HINT: We've determined that WHAT was stolen is important. WHERE it was stolen from might help you get the what as well as the "O". | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1051 Registered: 2-2011 |
were the items stolen from a shop? jewellery? electrical? were the Os some sort of price tag? like everything marked with an O would be one price, and other prices for other letters? did the thief have Aspergers? was the location a house where a move was planned and the items tagged? like everything with an O belonged to one person? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1521 Registered: 8-2001 |
were the items stolen from a shop? Yes, explore jewellery? electrical? Neither of these types of shops. were the Os some sort of price tag? No like everything marked with an O would be one price, and other prices for other letters? No did the thief have Aspergers? Irrelevant was the location a house No where a move was planned and the items tagged? No like everything with an O belonged to one person? No | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3908 Registered: 9-2010 |
were the O's from a fast food place? anything to do with cheezburgurz? mandatory kaylee kitteh question =D how iz vesica kitteh today? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3909 Registered: 9-2010 |
kaylee kitteh vaguely remembers the hamburgular....o.o iz he takez teh O's? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1531 Registered: 8-2001 |
were the O's from a fast food place? No anything to do with cheezburgurz? No | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1605 Registered: 9-2009 |
Long shot in the dark: was it a gun shop (or whatever this is called)? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 907 Registered: 1-2011 |
Are the items stolen commonly used in household? In the office? In a bathroom? In a kitchen? In a garden? In a garage? Are the items stolen commonly placed indoors? outdoors? Would I need a special place to store the stolen items? Are animals relevant? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1115 Registered: 2-2011 |
was it a place which sold food? furniture? books? stationery? pets? clothing? works of art? gardening equipment? tools? haberdashery? fuel? cars? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1535 Registered: 8-2001 |
Rbruma Long shot in the dark: was it a gun shop No (or whatever this is called)? Um, I just call it a gun shop. Redwine Are the items stolen commonly used in household? Yes In the office? In a bathroom? In a kitchen? In a garden? In a garage? Not specific to any area, nor the household per se. Are the items stolen commonly placed indoors? outdoors? These are tough to answer without clearing up an FA. Would I need a special place to store the stolen items? No, but you likely have a special place. Are animals relevant? No Shez was it a place which sold food? Primarily? No furniture? No books? Primarily? No stationery? No pets? No clothing? No works of art? No gardening equipment? No tools? No haberdashery? No fuel? No cars?No | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 28 Registered: 6-2011 |
Was it a department store? Was it a Walmart/Target/K-Mart/equivalent? Was the O taken with the criminal? Is the O itself valuable? Was the O intended to be a letter, as opposed to just a circle? Was it part of a word? Was it a label along with other letters (...L,M,N,O,P...)? Could the criminal have committed the crime if there was no O? Would he have? If so, would he still have gotten caught? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1545 Registered: 8-2001 |
Was it a department store? No Was it a Walmart/Target/K-Mart/equivalent? This could happen at these stores (or grocery stores), but there is another "kind of store" that might help you all get to the solution faster. Was the O taken with the criminal? Yes Is the O itself valuable? Not at all Was the O intended to be a letter, as opposed to just a circle? It's a letter. Was it part of a word? No Was it a label along with other letters (...L,M,N,O,P...)? YES!! Could the criminal have committed the crime if there was no O? Yes Would he have? He may have. If so, would he still have gotten caught? The actual criminal in this case has not been caught to date. | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 46 Registered: 6-2011 |
Was "O" the label on a store aisle? Or on a row in the parking lot? Was it a hardware store? You said one O was alone out of many. Are all these O's the same? Was the lonely O moved from its original position? Can the O be moved, or is it fastened to a wall or something? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 915 Registered: 1-2011 |
Were items stored in the shop in alphabetical order? And labelled with letters? Was the "O" an initial from the name of the item? The name of the owner? Author/manufacturer? Was the moved "O" misplaced between other letters? Were the stolen items CDs? Or DVDs? Music? Games? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1555 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dbw Was "O" the label on a store aisle? No, but it was a label. Or on a row in the parking lot? No Was it a hardware store? No You said one O was alone out of many. Correct. Are all these O's the same? More or less. The others are parts of something. Was the lonely O moved from its original position? No Can the O be moved, or is it fastened to a wall or something? It is fastened to something but can be moved. Redwine Were items stored in the shop in alphabetical order? YES!! And labelled with letters? YES! Was the "O" an initial from the name of the item? No The name of the owner? Yes! Author/manufacturer? No Was the moved "O" misplaced between other letters? No Were the stolen items CDs? Or DVDs? Music? Games? None of these. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 920 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is the shop a commission? A pawn shop? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1560 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is the shop a commission? I don't know what this means. A pawn shop? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3356 Registered: 1-2001 |
The name of the owner? Hmmmm... Was it a pet store? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1561 Registered: 8-2001 |
The name of the owner? Hmmmm... It might help to think "owner" more broadly so as not to be mislead by this. Perhaps - what sort of goods do we buy that have our names attached at the point of purchase? Was it a pet store? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1121 Registered: 2-2011 |
nameplates? something which has been custom-made for us? birthday cakes? clothes? printed stationery? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1566 Registered: 8-2001 |
nameplates? No something which has been custom-made for us? No, not custom-made for us... birthday cakes? clothes? printed stationery? None of these | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3360 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is kidnapping involved? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1573 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is kidnapping involved? No This one is floundering a little. Recap coming right up! | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1574 Registered: 8-2001 |
RECAP: Why only O? We know: * It is the letter O. * Yope to “An initial”, “name of a person” * More than one “O” involved! * The O (Os) was at the crime scene, not brought by thief. * The O (Os) was alone and part of words. * Theft by 1 person involved. * The O is directly related to the motive for the theft. * One “O” was a label, printed on paper and related to items being kept in alphabetical order, by owner name. * More than one item stolen. Bigger than a fist, smaller than a breadbox. * Items stolen were valuable. * Items stolen from a shop. Specific type to be determined. * Thief “Yope-ishly” stole what he came for. Hope this helps some. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3362 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is the shop a pharmacy? Some store which includes a pharmacy? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1576 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is the shop a pharmacy? Yes! Hooray! Some store which includes a pharmacy? Could be this too... I think we have many of the details. Just need to put them together and make that final leap to "Why?", as the police deduced. (Not that we know for sure since this person remains "at large". | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 71 Registered: 6-2011 |
A thief broke into a pharmacy and stole all the prescriptions for people whose last name starts with an "O". He probably intended to steal all medications starting with an O, looking for oxycodone or oxycontin, but ended up with a bunch of junk (like antibiotics for Mr. Olsen and birth control for Mrs. O'Brien). ...question mark? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1580 Registered: 8-2001 |
That's pretty much it!! ***** SPOILER ***** (As provided by Dbw) A thief broke into a pharmacy and stole all the prescriptions for people whose last name starts with an "O". He probably intended to steal all medications starting with an O, looking for oxycodone or oxycontin, but ended up with a bunch of junk (like antibiotics for Mr. Olsen and birth control for Mrs. O'Brien). Well played, good sir! That's your second solve on a puzzle of mine. Thanks to all who played! | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3363 Registered: 1-2001 |
Wow, good puzzle - I figured that 'pharmacy' guess was a longshot! |
