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Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2011 - 9:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Romeo and Juliet are found dead in a puddle of water and broken glass.
This is not the classic - or is it? I should warn you that this puzzle is inspired by a very silly web comic.
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Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2011 - 11:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have to ask - are they goldfish?

Romeo - H/A/M?
Juliet - H/A/F?

did they die from drowning? poison? suffocation? gunshot? knifing? natural causes?

is the glass from a goldfish bowl? a drinking glas? bottle? window?
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I have to ask - are they goldfish? indeed they are

Romeo - H/A/M?
Juliet - H/A/F?
so, no

did they die from drowning? poison? suffocation? this gunshot? knifing? natural causes?

is the glass from a goldfish bowl? yes, no to rest a drinking glas? bottle? window?
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Were they in an aquarium that for some reason broke?
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any cats involved?

did the bowl break because it fell? or because something hit it?

is it a joke?
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Is Romeo A? M?
Is Juliet A? F?

Are any humans involved? Other animals? Are they HAM? HAF?
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Were they in an aquarium that for some reason broke? no,
BLOOOOPER: There is NO broken glass.


any cats involved? no

did the bowl break because it fell? or because something hit it? no to both, see BLOOOOPER

is it a joke? yesish

Is Romeo A? M? irrel
Is Juliet A? F? irrel

Are any humans involved? yes Other animals? yes Are they HAM? two HAM HAF?
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did the two HAMs remove the fish from a bowl?
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did the two no HAMs remove the fish from a bowl? yes
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did they need the bowl for something else?

did they intend to kill the fish?

did they think the fish would not die? or were they already dead?

did they put something into the bowl which forced some of the water and the fish out?

were there any fish left in the bowl after this happenend?
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did they need the bowl for something else? no, but explore

did they intend to kill the fish? no

did they think the fish would not die? no or were they already dead? no

did they put something into the bowl which forced some of the water and the fish out? no

were there any fish left in the bowl after this happenend? no
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did they need the water for something else? did they put out a fire?
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did they need the water for something else? yes did they put out a fire? YES!
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Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2011 - 7:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

had they started the fire?

was the fire in a house? was it caused by an electrical fault?
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Did they try to extinguish the fire with the water from the bowl?
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had they started the fire? noish

was the fire in a house? yes was it caused by an electrical fault? no

Did they try to extinguish the fire with the water from the bowl? yes
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HINT: Find out about the other relevant animals.
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OK, so the other animals caught fire?

were the other animals fish? reptiles? amphibians? birds? cats? dogs?
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OK, so the other animals one of them caught fire? yes

were the other animals fish? reptiles? amphibians? birds? cats? dogs? one was a dog
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are we talking about live animals here? stuffed? toys? ornaments?

was it the dog which caught fire?

how many animals are we looking for here? more than 2? more than 5?

apart from the dog, are the other animals mammals?
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are we talking about live animals here? yes stuffed? toys? ornaments?

was it the dog which caught fire? yes

how many animals are we looking for here? two more than 2? more than 5?

apart from the dog, are the other animals mammals? yes
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was it a dog with particularly long hair? or dangly ears?

were any animals harmed in the making of this puzzle?

was the other animal four-legged? a bat? a cetacean? a rodent?

did the dog get too close to a fire in the hearth? a bonfire? a candle? a flame the guys were using to smoke or cook drugs?
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was it a dog with particularly long hair? or dangly ears? irrel

were any animals harmed in the making of this puzzle? well... a dog on fire and at least two dead goldfish are lying on my bedroom floor (;

was the other animal four-legged? yes a bat? a cetacean? a rodent? no to rest

did the dog get too close to a fire in the hearth? a bonfire? a candle? a flame the guys were using to smoke or cook drugs? no to all, small FA: One of the guys is not present when the whole thing happens, but that's not too relevant.
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Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 9:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*sigh*

did the dog come into contact with a naked flame? did it spontaneously combust?

did the dog chase the other animal?
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*sigh* why so exhausted?

did the dog come into contact with a naked flame? yes, this is closest did it spontaneously combust? no

did the dog chase the other animal? no
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I just wish my life were as exciting as yours!

is the other animal a marsupial? a sheep? a cow? a pig? a horse?
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Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 9:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the other animal a marsupial? a sheep? a cow? a pig? a horse? no to all... to spare you further enumerations, it's an ape.
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Did somebody set the dog on fire? (you mentioned before that the story itself is silly ..)
Was the ape present in that place? (a gorilla in your bedroom, I mean ..?)
Did the ape pour the water at the dog?
Is the reference to Romeo and Juliet that two lives were wasted in order to save another life?
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Did somebody set the dog on fire? DOYD of somebody (you mentioned before that the story itself is silly ..)
Was the ape present in that place? indeed (a gorilla in your bedroom, I mean ..?)
Did the ape pour the water at the dog? no
Is the reference to Romeo and Juliet that two lives were wasted in order to save another life? no
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Did the gorilla set the dog on fire?
Was there already an open fire in the room? a candle maybe? was somebody smoking?
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Did the gorilla set the dog on fire? yes, but it's a chimp, not a gorilla
Was there already an open fire in the room? no a candle maybe? was somebody smoking? no to both
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I am just skimming through trying to catch up on this one and got to "The chimp set the dog on fire". Can I just say - OMG, I love this puzzle!!

Now to ask some questions.
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Okay, so we have a dog on fire, yes?
A chimp who set the dog on fire, yes?
A HAM who took Romeo and Juliet out of their bowl and dumped the water on the dog on fire, yes?
And a second, relevancy to be determined HAM?

Any other important people or critters in this puzzle?
Is this actually taking place in a bedroom?
Your bedroom?

Did you say this is based on a joke?
Could this happen in real life?
Is it likely to happen in real life?

IS the source of the open flame relevant?
Was it a candle?
A fire in a fire place?
Matches?
A lighter?

Is the dog usually in this room?
Is the chimp?
Do both of them “live” wherever this is taking place?
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I am just skimming through trying to catch up on this one and got to "The chimp set the dog on fire". Can I just say - OMG, I love this puzzle!! hehe (:

Okay, so we have a dog on fire, yes? yes
A chimp who set the dog on fire, yes? yes
A HAM who took Romeo and Juliet out of their bowl and dumped the water on the dog on fire, yes? yes
And a second, relevancy to be determined HAM? the second man is basically doing what you are doing: He looks at what has happened and puts the pieces together. That's about all he does.

Any other important people or critters in this puzzle? no
Is this actually taking place in a bedroom? could be any room, looks like an office
Your bedroom? I hope not!

Did you say this is based on a joke? on a funny webcomic
Could this happen in real life? yes, but see next answer
Is it likely to happen in real life? absolutely unlikely!

IS the source of the open flame relevant? yes
Was it a candle?
A fire in a fire place?
Matches? this one
A lighter?

Is the dog usually in this room?
Is the chimp?
Do both of them “live” wherever this is taking place? irrel to all

Great round of questions, we now have all the relevant information except for one tiny piece. Who wants to put everything together?
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Was the chimp playing with matches?
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Was the chimp playing with matches? assume he was playing with one match, but there's something else relevant about the match
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it wasn't a safety match? was it particularly long? was it a self-igniting match? a re-igniting match? (like those trick birthday candles)

was it a match designed for a specific use?
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Was it a match in a paper book?
A wooden match?
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Was it a strike anywhere match?

Let's call the chimp Bobo, the man Bozo, and the dog Bono.

Did Bobo strike the match? Did Bobo intend to start the fire? Did Bobo intend to light Bono on fire?

Did Bozo give the match to Bobo?

Was Bobo supposed to light something other than Bono on fire? If so, did he succeed?

Did Bono catch fire directly from the match? or did the match light a fire on something else which then spread to Bono?

Is Bozo the owner/caretaker/zookeeper of either Bobo or Bono?

Is Bono a normal domestic dog (e.g. not a wolf or other canid)? Was Bono badly hurt by the fire? Was Bobo or Bozo injured at all in the fire?
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Shez
it wasn't a safety match? was it particularly long? was it a self-igniting match? a re-igniting match? (like those trick birthday candles) all are irrel

was it a match designed for a specific use? irrel

Vesica
Was it a match in a paper book?
A wooden match? both are irrel

Dbw
Was it a strike anywhere match? irrel

Let's call the chimp Bobo, the man Bozo, and the dog Bono. Confusing, but ok (:

Did Bobo strike the match? yes Did Bobo intend to start the fire? irrel Did Bobo intend to light Bono on fire? irrel

Did Bozo give the match to Bobo? YES - that was the relevant piece of info we were looking for

Was Bobo supposed to light something other than Bono on fire? no If so, did he succeed?

Did Bono catch fire directly from the match? yes or did the match light a fire on something else which then spread to Bono?

Is Bozo the owner/caretaker/zookeeper of either Bobo or Bono? inthe comic, it's not really obvious to whom the animals belong, so let's assume it's irrel

Is Bono a normal domestic dog (e.g. not a wolf or other canid)? yes Was Bono badly hurt by the fire? no Was Bobo or Bozo injured at all in the fire? no

You have found all relevant information - someone who wants to put it all together?
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Bozo gave Bobo a match; Bobo struck the match; astonished that this produced fire, Bobo threw the match away; the match landed on Bono, lighting his fur on fire; Bozo dumped Romeo and Juliet out onto Bono to put out the fire.

Bobo, overexcited by all the action, jumped up and down and began hurling feces everywhere.
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Bozo the Man gives Bobo the Chimp a match, yes?
Because apparently he is an idiot...
Bobo lights the match
Much to his delight, as fire is pretty and flamey and such...
The match comes into contact with Bono...
...who is set alight....
...and like any sensible dog, presumably starts running around like mad, barking the canine equivilant of "OMG! I'm on FIRE!"....
Bozo grabs Romeo and Juliet's fish tank...
Scoops them out (or not)...
And dumps the water over Bono...
...who, again as a sensible dog, glares at Bozo for dumping water on him, only realize he is no longer on fire.
Sadly forgotten in the hubbub, Romeo and Juliet gape in the open air, slowly suffocating to death.

The fourth man sees all this, declares the whole pack of Bobos, Bozos, and Bonos insane and decides to go to the pub down the street, figuring he can probably get a free pint out of this story.

Anything else?
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Oh, and Bozo was wearing a clown suit... and a bolo tie.
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Bozo gave Bobo a match; Bobo struck the match; astonished that this produced fire, Bobo threw the match away; the match landed on Bono, lighting his fur on fire; Bozo dumped Romeo and Juliet out onto Bono to put out the fire. exactly!

Bobo, overexcited by all the action, jumped up and down and began hurling feces everywhere. you should add a panel to the comic (:

Bozo the Man gives Bobo the Chimp a match, yes? yes
Because apparently he is an idiot... looks like it
Bobo lights the match yep
Much to his delight, as fire is pretty and flamey and such... yes
The match comes into contact with Bono... yes
...who is set alight.... yes
...and like any sensible dog, presumably starts running around like mad, barking the canine equivilant of "OMG! I'm on FIRE!".... probably
Bozo grabs Romeo and Juliet's fish tank... yes
Scoops them out (or not)... either that or they just fall out of the tank
And dumps the water over Bono... yes
...who, again as a sensible dog, glares at Bozo for dumping water on him, only realize he is no longer on fire. yes
Sadly forgotten in the hubbub, Romeo and Juliet gape in the open air, slowly suffocating to death. yes

The fourth man sees all this, declares the whole pack of Bobos, Bozos, and Bonos insane and decides to go to the pub down the street, figuring he can probably get a free pint out of this story. probably

Anything else? nope

Oh, and Bozo was wearing a clown suit... and a bolo tie. but this is a no as you can see in the


********SPOILER********
This puzzle is inspired by an episode of one of my favourite web comics, Nichtlustig.
The man on the left says, "Let me guess: While I was away, you gave your ape a match, he set the dog on fire and you extinguished it with the water from the fish tank.", and the man on the right replies, "Almost right - I thought it was your ape."

Nichtlustig is also available in English, http://www.notfunny.com, but unfortunately only a handful of those hilarious cartoons have been translated so far.

Thanks for playing and thumbs up for Dbw and Vesica for the final solution (:

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