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Hominid (Hominid)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 9:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A man is traveling. He asks someone about nearby attractions, and the person mentions one nearby. The man immediately decides not to go to the attraction, and even goes out of his way to avoid it. Why?
Dbw (Dbw)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 9:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he offended by the attraction? Disgusted by it? Does he have an allergy to something found there?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 9:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he want to avoid attractions in general?
Did he want to avoid crowds?
Did he want to see (relatively) unknown places only?

Was he looking for a hotel or restaurant?
Was he afraid that hotels/restaurants near attractions were too expensive for him?
Hominid (Hominid)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 9:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he offended by the attraction? Disgusted by it? Does he have an allergy to something found there? no to all.

Did he want to avoid attractions in general?
Did he want to avoid crowds?
Did he want to see (relatively) unknown places only? no to all.

Was he looking for a hotel or restaurant?
Was he afraid that hotels/restaurants near attractions were too expensive for him? no to all.

Good questions, though.
Dbw (Dbw)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 9:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the attraction outdoors?

Is it free to visit?

Is it the world's largest something?

Is this a "common" attraction , i.e., could I find a similar attraction in all 50 states, such as a water park or theater?

Does the man have a phobia of something there?

Is the attraction natural (e.g. a geyser)?

If you were traveling through the area, would you avoid the attraction too, or is something quirky about this guy keeping him away?
Hominid (Hominid)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 9:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the attraction outdoors? yes.

Is it free to visit? yes.

Is it the world's largest something? probably, but that's not what it's famous for.

Is this a "common" attraction , i.e., could I find a similar attraction in all 50 states, such as a water park or theater? NO. Very good question. Well, you probably could find a vaguely similar thing in all 50 states, but it wouldn't really be an attraction.

Does the man have a phobia of something there? no.

Is the attraction natural (e.g. a geyser)? no.

If you were traveling through the area, would you avoid the attraction too, or is something quirky about this guy keeping him away? No, I normally wouldn't go out of my way to avoid it. However, so would this man on most occasions.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 9:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had the man heard of the attraction before he asked about the area?

Since it's not a common attraction, is the attraction a unique site such as Mount Rushmore?

Is it located in the U.S.? Is it located in Alabama? Alaska? ...etc... Wisconsin? Wyoming?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 10:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the person he asks a local? someone traveling with him?

Is he traveling by car? by bus? by boat? on foot? Relevant?
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 10:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When the man asked the question was he expecting to avoid anything mentioned?

Is there anything relevant about the person he asked? Would he have avoided that attraction no matter who told him about it?

Did he visit another attraction instead? Relevant?

Did the person who mentioned the attraction also give some information about it? Just the name? Did the man have some misunderstanding about the attraction?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 11:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he travelling by car? motorbike? bike? ship? on foot? relevant?

Is his destination relevant? his starting point?
Is he travelling alone? If no, is he travelling with [LTPF list of integers] people? Are they H/A/M?

Does he have anything relevant with him? A dead body maybe? Had he committed a crime before he left? Any crimes relevant?

Is there anything relevant about the person who mentioned the attraction to him? Is s/he H/A/M?F? a local?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 11:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oops, I hadn't refreshed the page so that I didn't read Biograd's and Enjay's posts. Sorry for the double questions!
Hominid (Hominid)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 11:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had the man heard of the attraction before he asked about the area? probably, but irrelevant.

Since it's not a common attraction, is the attraction a unique site yes such as Mount Rushmore? but not this.

Is it located in the U.S.? Is it located in Alabama? Alaska? ...etc... Wisconsin? Wyoming? Well, this is a big hint: it is located in Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Utah.

Is the person he asks a local? irrelevant, but assume this. someone traveling with him? most likely not this.

Is he traveling by car? assume this. Any road-based non-public transportation would work. by bus? by boat? on foot? Relevant? not especially.

When the man asked the question was he expecting to avoid anything mentioned? assume no.

Is there anything relevant about the person he asked? no. Would he have avoided that attraction no matter who told him about it? yes, in fact he almost certainly already knew about it.

Did he visit another attraction instead? Irrelevant. Relevant? no.

Did the person who mentioned the attraction also give some information about it? assume this. Just the name? Did the man have some misunderstanding about the attraction? no, he understood everything correctly.

Is he travelling by car? motorbike? bike? ship? on foot? relevant? Assume car, but motorbike or bike would work just as well.

Is his destination relevant? yes, the state. his starting point? sort of...Assume California.
Is he travelling alone? If no, is he travelling with [LTPF list of integers] people? Are they H/A/M? all irrelevant.

Does he have anything relevant with him? A dead body maybe? Had he committed a crime before he left? Any crimes relevant? no to all, except he probably has a map, and all the necessary things for road trips.

Is there anything relevant about the person who mentioned the attraction to him? Is s/he H/A/M?F? a local? all irrelevant.

Oops, I hadn't refreshed the page so that I didn't read Biograd's and Enjay's posts. Sorry for the double questions! It's fine. You asked some very good questions.
Dbw (Dbw)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 11:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now we're getting somewhere... Was the attraction Four Corners, where you can stand in 4 states at once?

Did he avoid it because he did not want to set foot in one of the states? Is the fact that it's on an Indian Reservation relevant? Does it matter which state he's in when he asks the question?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 11:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't know much at all about US geography so I'll leave that clue to someone else...

Before the guy he asked mentioned the attraction, was the man planning to visit this attraction? Neutral about the idea of visiting it? Already planning to avoid it? Hadn't considered the idea of visiting it?

Did the man have what most people would consider a reasonable reason for avoiding the attraction? Did think that if he went he would get hurt? Get bored? Not enjoy the experience? Meet someone he didn't want to meet? Lose money?

Is he travelling somewhere to a deadline? Did he fear that visiting the attraction would make him late?

Is anything that the person said other than mentioning the attraction relevant? If he had said only 'you could visit _________' would the guy still have avoided it? If he hadn't asked anyone at all and had seen a sign advertising the attraction would he have avoided it? If he had read about the attraction in a guide book?
Hominid (Hominid)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 11:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now we're getting somewhere... Was the attraction Four Corners, where you can stand in 4 states at once? YES!

Did he avoid it because he did not want to set foot in one of the states? yes. One or more. Is the fact that it's on an Indian Reservation relevant? no. Does it matter which state he's in when he asks the question? I don't think so. Assume Arizona.

I don't know much at all about US geography so I'll leave that clue to someone else... Fine; Dbw already answered it.

Before the guy he asked mentioned the attraction, was the man planning to visit this attraction? no. Neutral about the idea of visiting it? no. Already planning to avoid it? probably this. Hadn't considered the idea of visiting it? or maybe this.

Did the man have what most people would consider a reasonable reason for avoiding the attraction? Not really. Did think that if he went he would get hurt? no. Get bored? no. Not enjoy the experience? no. Meet someone he didn't want to meet? no. Lose money? no. I guess there could have been money involved, but even then, he could lie his way out of it.

Is he travelling somewhere to a deadline? irrelevant. Did he fear that visiting the attraction would make him late? no.

Is anything that the person said other than mentioning the attraction relevant? no, except a short explanation. If he had said only 'you could visit _________' would the guy still have avoided it? yes, assuming he understood what it was. If he hadn't asked anyone at all and had seen a sign advertising the attraction would he have avoided it? ditto. If he had read about the attraction in a guide book? ditto.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 12:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are state laws relevant? Was he planning to do something/was already doing something that was illegal in a particular state? Are age limits relevant? Is anything that happened to this man in the past relevant?
Dbw (Dbw)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 12:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK, so we're assuming he's already in Arizona...
Does he want to avoid Utah, specifically?
Does he want to avoid Colorado, specifically?
Does he want to avoid New Mexico, specifically?
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Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 12:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are state laws relevant? Was he planning to do something/was already doing something that was illegal in a particular state? Are age limits relevant? no to all. Is anything that happened to this man in the past relevant? no, except the beginning of his trip.

OK, so we're assuming he's already in Arizona... right...
Does he want to avoid Utah, specifically? no.
Does he want to avoid Colorado, specifically? Since he's driving, he'd have to go through Utah or New Mexico first.
Does he want to avoid New Mexico, specifically? yes, for a while. Which state is which is not terribly relevant.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 1:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he trying to visit all of the states without backtracking? So crossing backwards into a previous state would defeat the purpose?
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Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 2:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he trying to visit all of the states without backtracking? So crossing backwards into a previous state would defeat the purpose?

*******************SPOILER********************

The man was trying to visit all the states from California to Maine and visit each state (except Alaska and Hawaii) exactly once. He did not want to visit the four corners because entering more states would be against his purpose.

Great job, guys. I've never had a puzzle solved so quickly.
Dbw (Dbw)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 4:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Haha, cool. Why not Alaska, though? You could do the Canadian Provinces too. :-)
Hominid (Hominid)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 1:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I suppose you could, but you'd have to skip either Nova Scotia or Newfoundland and Labrador, as well as Prince Edward Island.

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