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Abc (Abc)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 10:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since I seem not to be able to think up any new puzzles at the moment, I'll chance a rerun of one that I did some years ago. Lynne and Hannah should probably stay away - they might remember it

A man lies dead on the ground. A kilometre away is a single ski.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 10:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

a man = H/A/M?
Was it murder? an accident? suicide?
Any other relevant people? animals?

Is it his ski? Is the second ski anywhere near the scene?

Is it winter? Is there snow on the ground? Was he skiing before he died?
Abc (Abc)
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Post Number: 281
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 10:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

a man = H/A/M? Yes
Was it murder? an accident? suicide? Accident
Any other relevant people? Very peripherally animals? No

Is it his ski? Yes
Is the second ski anywhere near the scene? Yes

Is it winter? Yes
Is there snow on the ground? Yes
Was he skiing before he died? Yes
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 12:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the ski keep going without him? Or did he lose it before he died? Is he wearing the other ski? Any visible injuries? Did he die from trauma? Cold? blood loss?
Abc (Abc)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 12:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the ski keep going without him? No
Or did he lose it before he died? Yes, FA
Is he wearing the other ski? Yes
Any visible injuries? Yes
Did he die from trauma? This, I believe - not 100% sure of what constitutes "trauma"
Cold? No
blood loss? No
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 1:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he ever have the lost ski? Was it his? Did he die from blunt force? Hitting something at high speed? Being hit by something at high speed? Is he in a skiing slope? any other relevant ski tracks?
Abc (Abc)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 1:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he ever have the lost ski? Yes
Was it his? Yes
Did he die from blunt force? Yes
Hitting something at high speed? No
Being hit by something at high speed? Yes
Is he in a skiing slope? No
any other relevant ski tracks? No
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 1:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he hit by: a skier? A ski? A snowball? An avalanche? A tree? A rock? Something falling from the sky?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 2:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I read this in the archives a couple days ago; I'll stay out of it. But I do think the solution to this is very, very clever!
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 2:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was he hit by a train? a snowmobile? a car?

was he wearing the abandoned ski just before he died?

did he fall over a precipice?

was he alive when he was hit? was he awake?

was the thing which hit him at speed man-made?
Abc (Abc)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 3:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he hit by: a skier? A ski? A snowball? An avalanche? A tree? A rock? Something falling from the sky?

was he hit by a train? a snowmobile? a car? A train

was he wearing the abandoned ski just before he died? No. Not according to my definition of "just", anyway.

did he fall over a precipice? Provided I know the correct definition of "precipice", no

was he alive when he was hit? was he awake? Both yes

was the thing which hit him at speed man-made? Yes
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 3:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he wear the second ski while he died?
Did he leave the first ski behind on purpose?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 3:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he on the train tracks when hit? Did he know he was? Did he mean to? Did he intend to get hit by the train? Did he intend to interact with the train in some other way? Did he lose the ski before he became aware of the train? Did he chase the ski? Did the lost ski move because of: gravity? Momentum imparted by the man? Momentum imparted by the train? Did he die from being hit by the train? Or from something else that happened as a consequence? Such as a fall?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 5:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he wear the second ski while he died? Yes
Did he leave the first ski behind on purpose? Yes (which clears up the FA about "losing" the ski)

Was he on the train tracks when hit? Yes
Did he know he was? Yes
Did he mean to? No
Did he intend to get hit by the train? No
Did he intend to interact with the train in some other way? Noish
Did he lose the ski before he became aware of the train? Yes, apart from the "lose" part
Did he chase the ski? No
Did the lost ski move because of:
gravity?
Momentum imparted by the man?
Momentum imparted by the train? As we have now found out, he left it behind on purpose

Did he die from being hit by the train? Yes
Or from something else that happened as a consequence? No
Such as a fall? No
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Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 12:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he go skiing on a single ski? For fun? For a good reason? Did something cause him to leave the other ski behind? An emergency? Is the very peripherally relevant other person(s) the train driver? If he had both skis, would he still be hit by the train? Would he be on the tracks in the first place? Did he have anything relevant with him when hit, except the one ski? Was he following the tracks? Crossing them? Was he injured before the train hit him? Or stuck somehow? Would he have lived if the train was 10 seconds late? Or one minute? Or 10?
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Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 1:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he go skiing on a single ski? Yes
For fun? No
For a good reason? Yes
Did something cause him to leave the other ski behind? Yes
An emergency? Yes
Is the very peripherally relevant other person(s) the train driver? Yes
If he had both skis, would he still be hit by the train? Yes
Would he be on the tracks in the first place? Yes
Did he have anything relevant with him when hit, except the one ski? Yes
Was he following the tracks? Yes
Crossing them? No
Was he injured before the train hit him? Yes
Or stuck somehow? Somehow
Would he have lived if the train was 10 seconds late? No
Or one minute? No
Or 10? No
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 1:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he injured by an animal? Was he chased? Did he have to remove the one ski because of his injury? Because he couldn't use that ski anymore? Leg/foot injury? Broken bone(s)? Relevant exactly how he got his first injury? Exact nature of the injury relevant? Or is it enough to know that it caused him to try skiing on one ski? Is he following the tracks? If so: because there is less snow there? Because they lead to civilization? Because he's unable to get away from them? Is he stuck at a specific point on the tracks? Was he injured before he got onto the tracks? Other relevant objects: ski poles? Backpack? Specific item of clothing?
Abc (Abc)
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Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 1:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he injured by an animal? No
Was he chased? No
Did he have to remove the one ski because of his injury? No
Because he couldn't use that ski anymore? Noish
Leg/foot injury? Yes
Broken bone(s)? Yes
Relevant exactly how he got his first injury? Yes
Exact nature of the injury relevant? Not any more than already discovered
Or is it enough to know that it caused him to try skiing on one ski? FA
Is he following the tracks? Yes
If so:
because there is less snow there? No Because they lead to civilization? No
Because he's unable to get away from them? Yes
Is he stuck at a specific point on the tracks? No
Was he injured before he got onto the tracks? No
Other relevant objects:
ski poles?
Backpack?
Specific item of clothing? All of these are present, but not relevant to the puzzle
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Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 2:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he skiing with the one ski? Or using it as a crutch? Did he get injured on the tracks? Did he fall onto them? Is he unable to get away because of walls of snow on the sides? Because of his injury? Is he inside a tunnel? Or on a bridge? Or some other structure that keeps him from leaving the tracks?
Abc (Abc)
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Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 8:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he skiing with the one ski? Yes, as far as that can be accomplished
Or using it as a crutch? No
Did he get injured on the tracks? Yes
Did he fall onto them? Yes
Is he unable to get away because of walls of snow on the sides? YES - good question
Because of his injury? Yes
Is he inside a tunnel? No
Or on a bridge? No
Or some other structure that keeps him from leaving the tracks? No - walls of snow is his problem
Abc (Abc)
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Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 6:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, what's with the ski, and what is the relevant thing that he carries with him?
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Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 9:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he leave one ski as a signal?

was the thing he carried animate? was it a bagful of money? a parachute? cheezburgur?
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Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 9:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

o plz let it be cheezburgur...=) *grins at Shez kitteh* yay, cheezburgurz...=D *hopes for it to be cheezburgur, kplzthnx...eek, is nearly 2 AM...tired kaylee kitteh...nite shez kitteh and abc kitteh, sleepz gud and dreamz cheezburgur dreamz...
Abc (Abc)
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Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 3:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he leave one ski as a signal? Yes

was the thing he carried animate? was it a bagful of money? a parachute? cheezburgur?

Actually, there were two things. One of them was a cheeseburger. As for the other one, it was none of the above.

Hint: The puzzle title is relevant
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Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he leave it as a signal to trains? To rescuers? To friend(s)? Relevant when this happened? Relevant exactly where he left it? Did he leave it in order not to get hit by the train? If so, relevant why he failed? Did the train come from the opposite direction?
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Did he leave it as a signal to trains? Yes
To rescuers? No
To friend(s)? No
Relevant when this happened? No
Relevant exactly where he left it? No
Did he leave it in order not to get hit by the train? Yes
If so, relevant why he failed? Yes
Did the train come from the opposite direction? Yes
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 6:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he throw the ski up there when he realised he couldn't get out of the space between the railway tracks?

the other thing he was carrying (I hope he managed to eat the cheezburgur before the train hit him!) was it something with writing on it? a map? a train timetable?
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Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 8:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he throw the ski up there when he realised he couldn't get out of the space between the railway tracks? FA

the other thing he was carrying (I hope he managed to eat the cheezburgur before the train hit him!) was it something with writing on it? a map? a train timetable? This
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Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 8:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think it is time we euthanise this

***************** SPOILER ****************
A man was cross-country skiing across Hardangervidda. There was a lot of snow, and the railroad snowplows had been running all winter to keep the (single) track clear, and created a "canyon" through the 3-metre-plus layer of snow. The man didn't realise this, and fell into the canyon, breaking a leg in the fall. He had no chance of climbing the hard-packed snow walls with a broken leg, and he knew that any train coming along at 130 km/h would not be able to stop in time. So he takes the ski off his broken leg, jams it upright into the snow between the tracks, hoping that the train driver will understand, and start braking the train when he sees the ski. But which way to run? He has a timetable, which tells him that the first train will come from the east, so he starts going west as fast as his one ski and broken leg will allow. Unfortunately, the timetable is outdated, the first train comes from the west, and... the rest is history.
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Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 9:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

we were getting so close! great puzzle, thanks
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Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 9:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

thanks for indulging us about teh cheezburgur =D too bad it did not save him =(
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Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 2:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This has always been one of my favorites, and I like the addition of the cheezburger =)

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