| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7190 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lili has a virtue that was fairly common 50 years ago but is now very rare. What is it? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14644 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is Lili's religion relevant? Is religion in general relevant? The virtue is rare -- in America? Worldwide? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7191 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14644 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 10:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is Lili's religion relevant? no Is religion in general relevant? no The virtue is rare -- in America? yes Worldwide? probably not | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4856 Registered: 5-2003 |
Racism relevant? Does it have to do with being willing to buck convention? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1734 Registered: 2-2011 |
has this virtue become rare because of something which has changed in the USA during the last 50 years? would the same thing be true for other western civilisations? has it become rare because of an invention? because of changes to society? the way we live our lives? | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 199 Registered: 7-2011 |
Would this virtue, if carried too far, become a vice or character flaw? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7194 Registered: 8-2001 |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo) New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4856 Registered: 5-2003 Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 4:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Racism relevant? no Does it have to do with being willing to buck convention? yope Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1734 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 10:52 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) has this virtue become rare because of something which has changed in the USA during the last 50 years? yes would the same thing be true for other western civilisations?much less so if at all (as far as I know) has it become rare because of an invention?no because of changes to society? yes the way we live our lives? yes Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 199 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 5:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Would this virtue, if carried too far, become a vice or character flaw? I would say no, but not everyone would agree. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1739 Registered: 2-2011 |
society has become more materialistic? life faster-paced? greater equality? better education? better health care? longer life span? more convenience foods? more labour-saving devices? better communications? is this virtue to do with the way she does things? feels about things? thinks about things? interacts with others? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7195 Registered: 8-2001 |
hez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1739 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 8:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) society has become more materialistic?irrel, even if it's true, which I doubt life faster-paced? nogreater equality? no better education? noish better health care? yope longer life span? no more convenience foods no more labour-saving devices? nobetter communications? no is this virtue to do with the way she does things? see next answer feels about things? yesthinks about things? yesinteracts with others? yes--this is the most important | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 203 Registered: 7-2011 |
I was going to say 'thrift' but some of your answers tend to rule that out. Therefore (wild guess): stoicism? 'suffering in silence?' | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7196 Registered: 8-2001 |
Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 203 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 11:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I was going to say 'thrift' but some of your answers tend to rule that out. It's not thrift Therefore (wild guess): stoicism? No--I don't even consider that a virtue!! 'suffering in silence?' ditto | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 206 Registered: 7-2011 |
Is Lili's job or profession relevant? Her age? religion? ethnicity? gender? marital status? sexual orientation? something else? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4316 Registered: 9-2009 |
Humility? Compassion? Selflessness? Unconditional love? Generosity? Politeness? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 106 Registered: 8-2011 |
Is the virtue expressed by something she does? Something she doesn't do? | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 212 Registered: 7-2011 |
Sports involved? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7197 Registered: 8-2001 |
Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 206 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 4:08 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is Lili's job or profession relevant? no Her age? She's probably over 18 religion? noishethnicity? no gender? no marital status? nosexual orientation? no something else? yes Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4316 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 6:02 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Humility? Compassion? Selflessness? Unconditional love? Generosity? Politeness? Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 106 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 4:46 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the virtue expressed by something she does? see next answer Something she doesn't do? yes--GOOOOOOOOOD QUESTION!! Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 212 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 6:07 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Sports involved? no | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 216 Registered: 7-2011 |
So this might be described as "absence of a vice?" Is it a serious virtue? For example, signaling before you turn is a virtue, but not that important in the great scheme of things - a minor virtue. Anything like that? Is traffic involved in any way? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7200 Registered: 8-2001 |
Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 216 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 3:27 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So this might be described as "absence of a vice?" yes Is it a serious virtue? I think so but others would disagree For example, signaling before you turn is a virtue, but not that important in the great scheme of things - a minor virtue. Anything like that? I think it's more important than that Is traffic involved in any way? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4328 Registered: 9-2009 |
The thing she doesn't, is it normally done: alone? At home? In public? With friends? Is it: unhealthy? Unpleasant? Smelly? Yucky? Noisy? Impolite? Drugs involved? Food? Cellphones? Does it require an object? More than one object? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7203 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4328 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 8:27 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) The thing she doesn't, is it normally done: alone? noAt home? possiby In public? ditto With friends? dittoIs it: unhealthy? no Unpleasant? yes Smelly? yes Yucky?yope Noisy? no Impolite? yesDrugs involved? yope or noishFood? noCellphones? no Does it require an object? yopeMore than one object? yope | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1781 Registered: 2-2011 |
smoking? | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 227 Registered: 7-2011 |
Is doing or not doing this voluntary? involuntary? partly both? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7205 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1781 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 8:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) smoking? smoking is relevant, but what makes her a hero for our time is not just whether or not she smokes Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 227 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 8:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is doing or not doing this voluntary? yes| involuntary? no partly both? no | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 230 Registered: 7-2011 |
I would have thought that smoking was more prevelant 50 years ago than it is now. However - is she an active/aggressive non-smoker, even going as far as to grab cigars/cigarettes away from people? Does she insist on people not smoking in her presence, even when outdoors? Any of this relevant or even OTRT? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7207 Registered: 8-2001 |
Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 230 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 11:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I would have thought that smoking was more prevelant 50 years ago than it is now. Yes, it was. However - is she an active/aggressive non-smoker, even going as far as to grab cigars/cigarettes away from people? noDoes she insist on people not smoking in her presence, even when outdoors? noAny of this relevant yes or even OTRT? yope | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14697 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does she not comment when people smoke? Does she not object? | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 332 Registered: 7-2011 |
Should I follow the smoking thread? Does Lili care (I mean, CARE) about animals? Might it be relevant if I ask about her other interests such as animals? her household? her relatives? her neighbors? her ecological environment / caring about these subjects? Does she have dogs? Does she hunt? Does she use dogs to hunt? Does she use dogs as sled dogs? Does she chide her neighbors not to hunt? [I hope so!] Does Lili live alone? Does it matter whether she lives alone? Does she figure it's okay to smoke bcz she lives alone? Okay, she had a virtue... Was it a virtue that was important in Hollywood? to her family? bcz she wanted to find a great job? or did it not matter to her? Is there a story that we should figure out, here? Great puzzle, Nimue, I'm baffled. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7208 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14697 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 2:38 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does she not comment when people smoke? yes Does she not object? yes Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan) New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 332 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 7:44 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Should I follow the smoking thread? yes. See replies to Balin's questions, above. Does Lili care (I mean, CARE) about animals? irrel Might it be relevant if I ask about her other interests such as animals? no her household? no her relatives? no her neighbors? no her ecological environment / caring about these subjects? noish Does she have dogs? irrel Does she hunt? irrel Does she use dogs to hunt? irrel Does she use dogs as sled dogs? irrel Does she chide her neighbors not to hunt? [I hope so!]No, but I hope she doesn't take it upon herself to chide her neighbors not to hunt.I'm so squeamish that I don't even watch my own blood being drawn, so of course I don't hunt (or fish). But I am definitely not a vegetarian & I don't see why hunting is worse than eating what other people kill. Does Lili live alone? irrel Does it matter whether she lives alone? no Does she figure it's okay to smoke bcz she lives alone? irrel Okay, she had a virtue... Was it a virtue that was important in Hollywood? irrel to her family? possibly bcz she wanted to find a great job? irrel or did it not matter to her? her job is irrel Is there a story that we should figure out, here? yes Great puzzle, Nimue, I'm baffled. Balin to the rescue!! See below ********** SPOILER ************** Like many people, both now & 50 years ago, Lili (who gets her name from the real Lili's cat) used to smoke but has stopped. Like many ex-smokers 50 years ago but few now, she has not turned into a self-righteous buttinsky who monitors other people's smoking. She does not proselytize. She does not nag smokers to mend their ways. She minds her own business. Truly, a hero for our time! By the way, I am a lifelong non-smoker who is mildly allergic to cigarette smoke & violently allergic to the hot air blown by anti-smoking zealots. Please don't be allergic to my new puzzle at the bottom of the page! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14724 Registered: 4-2010 |
"Buttinsky" -- niiiice. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7211 Registered: 8-2001 |
That delightful word is not original with me, alas. |
