| Author | Message | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1686 Registered: 9-2009 |
The first thing to look after was the last to be considered. Please explain | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1828 Registered: 2-2011 |
was it a specific person or group of people who should have looked after the first thing? was it the same person or group of people who considered it last? is this a real life situation? a work situation? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1687 Registered: 9-2009 |
was it a specific person or group of people who should have looked after the first thing? Yes - a group of people was it the same person or group of people who considered it last? Unknown, but maybe the same group is this a real life situation? YES a work situation? I don't understand, please clarify | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1833 Registered: 2-2011 |
did this happen at a place of work? an office? factory?shop? restaurant? was the first group of people a group of work colleagues? a group of students? lawmakers? scientists? government? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1688 Registered: 9-2009 |
did this happen at a place of work? Yes, no to the rest an office? factory?shop? restaurant? was the first FA group of people a group of work colleagues? a group of students? lawmakers? scientists? government? People taking decisions. Their connection is irr for the puzzle | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 331 Registered: 7-2006 |
The first thing - a physical object? Some task to be performed? Some condition pertaining to the state of a person? Object? Was someone getting his priorities wrong? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1689 Registered: 9-2009 |
The first thing - a physical object? No Some task to be performed? Yes Some condition pertaining to the state of a person? No Object? It eventually proved to be this Was someone getting his priorities wrong? Yes, in my opinion anyway | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 334 Registered: 7-2006 |
Work - transportation related? A place where physical work rather than paperwork was being done? Was it a government-run type of workplace? Privately run? Hospital? Agricultural? Political? Did someone suffer because of the, um, blunder, if that is an appropriate description? Would the person(s) making the prioritising agree with you that it should have been different? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1691 Registered: 9-2009 |
Work - transportation related? No A place where physical work rather than paperwork was being done? Yes Was it a government-run type of workplace? In this case yes Privately run? Could be this too. Irrelevant anyway Hospital? No Agricultural? No Political? No Did someone suffer because of the, um, blunder, if that is an appropriate description? Yes Would the person(s) making the prioritising agree with you that it should have been different? I don't know | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1838 Registered: 2-2011 |
was it a building site? a military establishment? a ship? a wartime situation? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1692 Registered: 9-2009 |
was it a building site? This one, no to the rest a military establishment? a ship? a wartime situation? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1839 Registered: 2-2011 |
the thing to look after - privacy? secrecy? integrity? honour? truth? loyalty? power? dignity? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1840 Registered: 2-2011 |
oops - safety? health? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1693 Registered: 9-2009 |
the thing to look after - privacy? secrecy? integrity? honour? truth? loyalty? power? dignity? safety? health? None, really | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 335 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was the suffering an economic loss? Did the blunder have to do with logistics? Would it be any help to find out more about the building site? Such as what was being constructed? Was the blunder mainly one of succession? Or one of time? (To clarify: If you tend to someone needing a band-aid on a small wound before someone who needs CPR, it is a blunder of time - the putting on of the band-aid does not in itself hamper the administration of CPR afterwards, it just wastes valuable time. Closing the garage gate before driving the car into the garage is a blunder of succession; the closing hinders the driving-in) | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1694 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the suffering an economic loss? Eventually, this also Did the blunder have to do with logistics? Yes Would it be any help to find out more about the building site? Not the site in particular... Such as what was being constructed? ... but this is relevant, yes Was the blunder mainly one of succession? Or one of time? Hard to say in the given situation, but based on your examples I would say one of succession | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 339 Registered: 7-2006 |
So, was a building being constructed? Some means of transportation? A ship? If ship, was it a spaceship? To do with items that should be on hand, but weren't? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1697 Registered: 9-2009 |
So, was a building being constructed? Yes to this, no to the rest Some means of transportation? A ship? If ship, was it a spaceship? To do with items that should be on hand, but weren't? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 342 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the kind of building relevant? Was the work progress hampered in any way? Was W(ork) O(peration) A carried out before B, while it would have made more sense to do it in the opposite succession? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1092 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is any of the following relevant: hiring workers? providing supplies? drawing projects? Did it happen during: localizing the investment? projecting? building? decorating? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1698 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the kind of building relevant? Very much so, Yes Was the work progress hampered in any way? No Was W(ork) O(peration) A carried out before B, while it would have made more sense to do it in the opposite succession? Noish/Yope Is any of the following relevant: None hiring workers? providing supplies? drawing projects? Did it happen during: localizing the investment? No projecting? This building? And eventually this decorating? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1852 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it anything to do with getting the local community on side before they started? like maybe the type of building was something that they wouldn't want in the neighbourhood? a crematorium? municipal dump? a mosque? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 344 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was the building a kind of house? Bridge? Road or road related? Railroad or railroad related? If house, does it have a particular shape? Disproportionately tall compared to a "usual" house? Wide? Long? Is it made for living in? Working in? Storing things in? Teaching/learning in? Is it some kind of landmark building? Tourist attraction? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1700 Registered: 9-2009 |
is it anything to do with getting the local community on side before they started? like maybe the type of building was something that they wouldn't want in the neighbourhood? a crematorium? municipal dump? a mosque? No to all Was the building a kind of house? No Bridge? No Road or road related? No Railroad or railroad related? No If house, does it have a particular shape? N/A Disproportionately tall compared to a "usual" house? N/A Wide? N/A Long? N/A Is it made for living in? NO! Good question Working in? Yes, might be misleading Storing things in? No Teaching/learning in? No Is it some kind of landmark building? YES! Another good question Tourist attraction? Not really | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 346 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the building's function primarily symbolic? Is it a memorial of sorts? A museum? Will it help to find out more about its size and dimensions? Does it have windows? Door openings? Doors? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1858 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it a lighthouse? some sort of tower? a courthouse? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1702 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the building's function primarily symbolic? No, not at all Is it a memorial of sorts? No A museum? No Will it help to find out more about its size and dimensions? Yes! Does it have windows? Yope, possibly Door openings? Yope Doors? Yope | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1098 Registered: 1-2011 |
Does the building still exist? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1703 Registered: 9-2009 |
is it a lighthouse? some sort of tower? a courthouse? No to all Does the building still exist? Yes Small BLOOPER ALERT: Does it have windows? Possibly Door openings? Yes Doors? Yes | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 349 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is it a large building? Is it shaped roughly as a rectangular prism (4 walls at 90-degree angles, flat roof)? As a rectangular prism except with a non-flat roof? Does it have a height of more than 3 metres? 5? 10? 25? 100? Same for width and length. Is it underwater? Other place that I will likely consider to be "special"? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1863 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it a pyramid? is it a hole in the ground? is it an open structure with no walls at all? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1704 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it a large building? Yes Is it shaped roughly as a rectangular prism (4 walls at 90-degree angles, flat roof)? No As a rectangular prism except with a non-flat roof? No Does it have a height of more than 3 metres? 5? 10? 25? Either this... 100? ...or this, unsure Same for width and length. More than 100 for both Is it underwater? No Other place that I will likely consider to be "special"? No, you can find it in many cities is it a pyramid? No is it a hole in the ground? No is it an open structure YES with no walls at all? Yope Hint: Finding out its purpose would help | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1895 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it a multi-storey car park? is it a museum? some kind of tourist attraction? is it a bus station? railway station? airport? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1896 Registered: 2-2011 |
shopping mall? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1706 Registered: 9-2009 |
is it a multi-storey car park? is it a museum? some kind of tourist attraction? is it a bus station? railway station? airport? shopping mall? No to all | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 353 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is it a stadium? Other place aimed at accomodating lots of people? Is its purpose one of entertainment? Is it a military sort of building? Open-air theatre? Drive-in cinema? Drive-in something else? (Drive-in petrol station? :P) I has no roof, right? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1707 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it a stadium? YES Other place aimed at accomodating lots of people? Is its purpose one of entertainment? Is it a military sort of building? Open-air theatre? Drive-in cinema? Drive-in something else? (Drive-in petrol station? :P) I has no roof, right? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4384 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it wrongly designed? Wrongly constructed? Relevant that it will attract a lot of people? And vehicles? Did it have too few toilets? Or no parking space? Ventilation relevant? Heating? Weather? Other environmental conditions? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1901 Registered: 2-2011 |
did it not have proper disabled access? no access to public transport facilities? just not convenient for people who might want to go there? not big enough? not suitable for certain sports? certain activities? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1708 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it wrongly designed? Yope Wrongly constructed Yes, beware FA? Relevant that it will attract a lot of people? In a lateral sense, yes And vehicles? No Did it have too few toilets? No Or no parking space? No Ventilation relevant? No Heating? No Weather? No Other environmental conditions? It was claimed that some environmental conditions were to blame, yes No to the rest did it not have proper disabled access? no access to public transport facilities? just not convenient for people who might want to go there? not big enough? not suitable for certain sports? certain activities? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4386 Registered: 9-2009 |
Environmental conditions: wind? Rain? Heat? Cold? Flooding? Thunderstorms? Ice? Ground conditions? Was it damaged? Ruined? More expensive than anticipated? Was the problem remedied? If not, would it be possible to remedy it? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1709 Registered: 9-2009 |
Environmental conditions: wind? Rain? Heat? Cold? Flooding? Thunderstorms? Ice? Ground conditions? This Was it damaged? Yes, and specifically ... Ruined? This More expensive than anticipated? Eventually it proved so Was the problem remedied? They claim so, remains to be seen If not, would it be possible to remedy it? I hope so ******* SPOILER ******* A couple of weeks ago, the new National Arena in Bucharest, that is supposed to host the final of Europa League next year, was inaugurated with an official match between Romania and France. Everything was announced well in advance and everything seemed to work perfectly. The stadium was new and shining, the security was tight, there were some celebrations before, personalities invited, etc, etc. Given the traditional rivalry between the two teams, everybody was expecting a great performance. But... Starting around the 30th minute, the ground started to disintegrate. At some point the players needed to arrange it by hand, like a carpet. Four injured players was the result (two for each side), together with angry people and a renewal of the grass, now in progress, that costs four times more than the first one. The first one was the second day removed and thrown as garbage. How can you prepare in such detail the construction of a 55k+ people stadium and forget to check the first and most important thing, the ground, beats me. Thanks to all who participated and to Galfisk for the final solve. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14817 Registered: 4-2010 |
Wow. That's just...dumb. |
