| Author | Message | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3462 Registered: 1-2001 |
A boat sinks. Two old men decide to build a new boat, but neither of them use it when it is built. When the new boat is used, many people are upset. Explain. Clue: Despite Jennifer Aniston claiming that it's "all about her", this puzzle has nothing to do with her. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4372 Registered: 9-2010 |
good, acos kaylee kitteh knowz nuthin bout Jennifer Aniston... True story? FYOI? FSEI? "The Old Man and the Sea" relevant? *hopez nawt, haz nawt read. *face-pawz* Is the boat a toy boat? rowboat? Bigger? Could it more accurately be described as a ship? The Titanic? Is the new boat perhaps the Titanic? (That would certainly cause a lot of upset...) Did this happen during the 21st century? 20th? 19th? 18th? 17th? 16th? 15th? 14th? 13th? 12th? 11th? 10th? 9th? 8th? 7th? 6th? 5th? 4th? 3rd? 2nd? 1st? in B.C.? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3463 Registered: 1-2001 |
True story? Yes - true, and very fascinating, I can't believe that I just learned about it FYOI? No, I'm not creative enough to make up something like this FSEI? I believe that it's true, at least most of it would have to be true. There are some parts that people claim are possibly imagined. "The Old Man and the Sea" relevant? No Is the boat a toy boat? rowboat? Bigger? Both boats are bigger Could it more accurately be described as a ship? They both could, yes The Titanic? No Is the new boat perhaps the Titanic? (That would certainly cause a lot of upset...) No Did this happen during the...20th (century)? Yes | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4373 Registered: 9-2010 |
WWI or WWII relevant? Did this happen in North America? South America? Europe? Asia? Africa? Australia/Oceania? Antarctica? (who knows, maybe the ship was hijacked by penguins looking for cheezburgur? hehe.) | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1711 Registered: 9-2009 |
The two men: relevant that they are old? Do they build the new boat? If so, do they build it together? Do they build it with their hands or hire someone to build it for them? Help them build it? Are they still alive when the boat is ready? Neither of them uses it because they are dead? Relevant how time passes before the boat is used? "Used" by the two old men: sail with it? Or some other use? Later use: sailing? put on display? sell it? some other use? Many people: 100+? 1000+? 100.000+? More? Is the new boat built as a replica of the old one? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4390 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did any of the old men own the first boat? Or build it? Or pay for it? Are either of them politicians? Military men? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 669 Registered: 6-2009 |
Did the old men use the boat? Did other people use it? The same people that were upset? Is it relevant where the boat was going to and from? Was the boat used for escaping somewhere? Or reaching somewhere? Were the people upset because they did not expect something to happen? Is it relevant how the old boat sank? Were the old men waiting for something? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3464 Registered: 1-2001 |
WWI or WWII relevant? No Did this happen in North America? Yes The two men: relevant that they are old? I'm not sure, just stating a fact Do they build the new boat? Yes, but not directly, keep reading... If so, do they build it together? Yes, but not directly, keep reading... Do they build it with their hands No, they...hire someone to build it for them? One of the men hires the other one Help them build it? Neither of the 2 old men have a direct role in assembling the boat Are they still alive when the boat is ready? Yes Neither of them uses it because they are dead? No Relevant how time passes before the boat is used? Could be, I suppose "Used" by the two old men: sail with it? No, not them Or some other use? Yes Later use: sailing? Yes, in part, but not by either of the men put on display? sell it? Neither some other use? Yes, very much so Many people: 100+? 1000+? 100.000+? More? Probably several hundred, possibly 1,000 or slightly more Is the new boat built as a replica of the old one? No Did any of the old men own the first boat? No Or build it? No Or pay for it? No Are either of them politicians? Yes, one is Military men? No, neither of them Did the old men use the boat? In a sense, yes, but not directly Did other people use it? Yes The same people that were upset? No Is it relevant where the boat was going to and from? Which boat? Was the boat used for escaping somewhere? Which boat? Or reaching somewhere? Both boats were used to reach somewhere, yes Were the people upset because they did not expect something to happen? No, I'd say moreso they were upset because they did expect something to happen - good q Is it relevant how the old boat sank? No, and in fact this is unknown Were the old men waiting for something? At one point, yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14818 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are both boats life-sized? If not, is the first? The second? Is it relevant where Boat 1 was going to and from? Boat 2? Was either boat used for an escape? If so, which? Is the Alcatraz escape relevant (with the raincoat raft)? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 672 Registered: 6-2009 |
[b]The man who couldn't be found.[b] | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 673 Registered: 6-2009 |
Sorry, must be auto-form messing up that last post Is it relevant where the old boat was going to and from? New boat? Was the old boat used for escaping somewhere? New boat? Is it relevant who actually assembles the boat? Was the new boat used for research? in wars? recreation? pirates? sports? life-saving? Were the upset people on the new boat? Was one of the men the president? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3465 Registered: 1-2001 |
Are both boats life-sized? Yes If not, is the first? The second? Both are Is it relevant where Boat 1 was going to and from? Yes Boat 2? To, not from Was either boat used for an escape? No If so, which? Is the Alcatraz escape relevant (with the raincoat raft)? No but that's a good story too | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3466 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is it relevant where the old boat was going to and from? Yes New boat? Where it was going is relevant, not really where it came from Was the old boat used for escaping somewhere? New boat? Neither Is it relevant who actually assembles the boat? No Was the new boat used for research? Yes, of a sort - good q in wars? recreation? pirates? sports? life-saving? None of these Were the upset people on the new boat? No Was one of the men the president? Yes | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2618 Registered: 2-2001 |
Was the new boat intended to be a replacement for the old one? Research involved? Pork? Oh, and hey there, Ix, how you? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3468 Registered: 1-2001 |
Long time no type, Bodo, nice to see you! Was the new boat intended to be a replacement for the old one? No Research involved? Yes, but... Pork? No - neither pigs nor padded budgets | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2619 Registered: 2-2001 |
Was there any relationship at all between the two boats? Was the new boat intended to find the old boat? To prove (or disprove) a theory? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3470 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was there any relationship at all between the two boats? Yes, a direct one Was the new boat intended to find the old boat? Yes, that's the relationship To prove (or disprove) a theory? Probably, this would have been a secondary purpose though | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 155 Registered: 8-2011 |
first half or 20th century? 2nd half? Did they want to find the boat for monetary gain? Did the first boat sink in the 20th century? During this President's term? Are people disappointed because the first boat was not found? Because someone else had already recovered it? Because it was severely decomposed? Were they looking for a particular object aboard the first boat? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3471 Registered: 1-2001 |
first half or 20th century? 2nd half? This Did they want to find the boat for monetary gain? No Did the first boat sink in the 20th century? Yes During this President's term? Yes Are people disappointed because the first boat was not found? No Because someone else had already recovered it? No Because it was severely decomposed? No Were they looking for a particular object aboard the first boat? Yes...objects | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2620 Registered: 2-2001 |
Was the first boat a commercial boat (e. g. cargo, tanker, fisherman etc.)? A military boat? Was it a submarine? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 4 Registered: 9-2011 |
Did looking for the first boat cause some kind of international incident? Political controversy? Were the objects they were looking for still there when the first boat was found? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1923 Registered: 2-2011 |
were the objects they were looking for of monetary value? scientific value? national security? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3473 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was the first boat...a submarine? Yes Did looking for the first boat cause some kind of international incident? Yes Political controversy? Probably Were the objects they were looking for still there when the first boat was found? Good question - supposedly yes, but this is unknown. A reason for this fact is hinted in the puzzle's title. were the objects they were looking for of monetary value? No scientific value? Eventually perhaps national security? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14876 Registered: 4-2010 |
Re: your opening clue -- is an actress relevant? An actor? Is either boat's name relevant? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3475 Registered: 1-2001 |
Re: your opening clue -- is an actress relevant? Yes, but for one aspect only An actor? No Is either boat's name relevant? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1935 Registered: 2-2011 |
will we never know whether the objects were found for reasons of national security? does the "C" in the title refer to the objects? is Jennifer A. relevant because of a movie she was in? Friends? her personal life? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3477 Registered: 1-2001 |
will we never know whether the objects were found for reasons of national security? Probably not does the "C" in the title refer to the objects? No is Jennifer A. relevant because of a movie she was in? Friends? her personal life? None of these | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14883 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is another Jennifer relevant? Another Aniston? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3478 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is another Jennifer relevant? Yes Another Aniston? No | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4417 Registered: 9-2010 |
My cousin Jennifer Bandanza? lol, probably not...but iz favrit couzin! Is the other Jennifer: Actress? Singer? Author? Artist? Royalty? Other? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3479 Registered: 1-2001 |
My cousin Jennifer Bandanza? Is the other Jennifer: Actress? Singer? Author? Artist? Royalty? Other? Not any of these, but they all have the same thing in common...(Hint: Insert basic routine LTPF question here) | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1943 Registered: 2-2011 |
was one of the boats named Jennifer? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3481 Registered: 1-2001 |
was one of the boats named Jennifer? No, not the boats...(OTRT) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14904 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was one of the people named Jennifer? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1946 Registered: 2-2011 |
the objects they were looking for? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3482 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was one of the people named Jennifer? The objects they were looking for? No to both - the puzzle's title and some details that have been revealed should help uncover this | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 708 Registered: 6-2009 |
Was a body of water/location named Jennifer? Is the "C" in the title a name initial? Or part of a sequence "A", "B", "C" etc. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3484 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was a body of water/location named Jennifer? No... Is the "C" in the title a name initial? Yes, it is part of a name Or part of a sequence "A", "B", "C" etc. This too | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14916 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is there a relevant Jennifer C? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3486 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is there a relevant Jennifer C? There is a relevant 'Jennifer', yes, but not this. The basic question about the relevant Jennifer hasn't been asked yet. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4425 Registered: 9-2010 |
H/A/F? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14918 Registered: 4-2010 |
Jennifer: H? A? F? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4426 Registered: 9-2010 |
o hai balin kitteh! I askz first! =P | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3488 Registered: 1-2001 |
Jennifer: H? No! A? F? So these aren't relevant! The relevant 'Jennifer' is not a human, and cannot be classified as either adult or female. Good job! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4427 Registered: 9-2010 |
Plant? Fungus? Nonliving thing? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14922 Registered: 4-2010 |
Jennifer: Animal? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3489 Registered: 1-2001 |
Plant? Fungus? Nonliving thing? Animal? Not animal, plant nor fungus. 'Nonliving thing' is the closest, although this is slightly misleading. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14924 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is Jennifer a virus? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3491 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is Jennifer a virus? No. It's not any kind of organism or anything that could affect a living thing. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1949 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it something which has lived? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3492 Registered: 1-2001 |
is it something which has lived? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1952 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it not a tangible thing at all? a hurricane? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3494 Registered: 1-2001 |
is it not a tangible thing at all? Correct a hurricane? No - you're on the right track with this idea though, about the use of the name, but it's not used for anything tangible or anything visible like a hurricane | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14948 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a thought? A feeling? An idea? A moment? An invention? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3498 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is it a thought? A feeling? An idea? A moment? An invention? None of these exactly but very much OTRT. You are close with 'idea'. | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 729 Registered: 6-2009 |
Is it a plan or project? A mission? The mission to retrieve the submarine? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3500 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is it a plan or project? Yes, and also...A mission? ...this. Specifically, it's...The mission to retrieve the submarine? ...this. The mission was given the name 'Project Jennifer.' Now that this has been determined, can you figure out who the old men were, and why they wanted to retrieve the sub? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14954 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a nuclear submarine? Did this happen in wartime? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3501 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is it a nuclear submarine? No Did this happen in wartime? Strictly speaking no, but the two nations involved were in the midst of a "war" of a sort. | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 730 Registered: 6-2009 |
Were there some kind of weapons on the submarine? or anything dangerous at all? Was it the Cold War? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3502 Registered: 1-2001 |
Were there some kind of weapons on the submarine? Yes or anything dangerous at all? The weapons were dangerous, but there were other 'valuables' on the sub Was it the Cold War? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14956 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were they trying to prevent the enemy from retrieving the sub first? Were the old men working for the USA? USSR? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2621 Registered: 2-2001 |
I'm going to bow (no pun intended) out for now - I did notice the significance of the word "boat" in the puzzle statement though. Random gif:  | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4438 Registered: 9-2010 |
was one working for the USA and the other for the USSR? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3503 Registered: 1-2001 |
Were they trying to prevent the enemy from retrieving the sub first? Yes - actually, they didn't want the sub retrieved at all by anyone, including themselves Were the old men working for the USA? Yes USSR? So no Bodo: "I'm going to bow (no pun intended) out for now - I did notice the significance of the word "boat" in the puzzle statement though." Thanks for helping out with this one! was one working for the USA and the other for the USSR? Yes | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4441 Registered: 9-2010 |
fish can haz cheezburgur? hmm, perhaps not, it might not like that, unless it's a barracudafish, or a shark =P...perhaps it would like sesame seeds, Bodo? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15023 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were they trying to destroy the sub? Did they sink the boat? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3509 Registered: 1-2001 |
Were they trying to destroy the sub? No Did they sink the boat? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2019 Registered: 2-2011 |
were the items dangerous? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3511 Registered: 1-2001 |
were the items dangerous? A portion of them were, yes | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2022 Registered: 2-2011 |
were they nuclear warheads? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3512 Registered: 1-2001 |
were they nuclear warheads? Well not quite, the dangerous items that were on the sub were nuclear torpedoes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15090 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were the torpedoes successfully retrieved? Were they detonated? Did anyone die? The people who were upset: were they from the US? USSR? Elsewhere? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3515 Registered: 1-2001 |
Were the torpedoes successfully retrieved? Some were, yes Were they detonated? No Did anyone die? Not during recovery/retrieval, no The people who were upset: were they from the US? No USSR? YES Elsewhere? No, it's unlikely that a lot of other people knew | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15097 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were they US nukes? USSR? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3519 Registered: 1-2001 |
Were they US nukes? No USSR? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15108 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were the nukes usable (after being retrieved)? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3521 Registered: 1-2001 |
Were the nukes usable (after being retrieved)? Not likely, not relevant. There were other things, though, that were 'usable', and this is what caused the many people to be upset | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15115 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were the parts usable in rebuilding the torpedoes? Building something else? A sub? A ship? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2053 Registered: 2-2011 |
were the other things maps? plans? codes? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3523 Registered: 1-2001 |
Were the parts usable in rebuilding the torpedoes? Building something else? A sub? A ship? No to all were the other things maps? plans? Possibly these, but most importantly...codes? ...this. | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 36 Registered: 9-2011 |
Did this happen during or after the Cold War? Were people upset about possible re-escalation of conflict? About spying using these codes? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3536 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did this happen during or after the Cold War? During Were people upset about possible re-escalation of conflict? Yes, and...About spying using these codes? ...yes! We're mostly done...all that's really left is to determine who the two old men are and the significance of the 'C' in the puzzle title | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15441 Registered: 4-2010 |
The old men are Soviet, right? (It's been so long that I can't remember.) Are they government? Did they build the ship? The submarine? Form the codes? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3565 Registered: 1-2001 |
The old men are Soviet, right? (It's been so long that I can't remember.) No, the old men are two Americans, one of which is the US president (I think this was discovered a while ago) Are they government? One is, one isn't Did they build the ship? One was responsible for building it although he did not actively participate in construction The submarine? No, the sub was Russian built Form the codes? No, these were also formed by Russians Really all that's left is to determine who the two old men were | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15466 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is one of them a codebreaker? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3570 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is one of them a codebreaker? No - the president obviously has the security of the US in mind so he approves construction of a ship that can salvage the Russian sub and hopefully recover information and/or weapons. The other man has the means of building a salvage vessel and simply needs the approval and money from the US government to do so. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3599 Registered: 1-2001 |
** SPOILER ** This one has stalled and most of the info has been discovered, so it remains only to fill in a few blanks: In the early 1970's the CIA (or 'C' as in the puzzle's title) launched a project that was (erroneously) called 'Project Jennifer.' A Russian sub sank near Hawaii, and the US government, with knowledge of President Nixon, contracted with one of Howard Hughes' companies to build a salvage vessel. Under the guise of searching the ocean floor for minerals and valuable ore deposits, the ship recovered some weapons and encoding equipment from the sub. The Russians sent several "observation" ships to monitor US activity since they did not want any part(s) of the sub recovered by the US and they had no ships capable of searching for the sub. According to the CIA there was nothing of value recovered from the sub, yet there are reports that torpedoes and encryption equipment were recovered. This all happened less than a year before I was born, and I just learned of it and made this puzzle after reading an article describing the project. Nice work by all those involved! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15567 Registered: 4-2010 |
Good one! Sorry it stalled out. |
