| Author | Message | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14821 Registered: 4-2010 |
A man hit two home runs and saved another man's life. | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 675 Registered: 6-2009 |
Baseball relevant? Man #1 H? A? M? Man #2 H? A? M? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4394 Registered: 9-2009 |
Life saved: from death? From misfortune? From death by: accident? Murder? Suicide? Disease? Violence? Poison? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3467 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did the two things happen simultaneously (the home runs and the life-saving)? Was the man who hit the home runs a baseball player? Were the 2 home runs hit during the course of 1 baseball game? Over a period of time? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14826 Registered: 4-2010 |
Baseball relevant? Yes Man #1 H? A? M? Yes Man #2 H? A? M? Yes Life saved: from death? Yes From misfortune? From death by: accident? Murder? This Suicide? Disease? Violence? Poison? Did the two things happen simultaneously (the home runs and the life-saving)? No Was the man who hit the home runs a baseball player? No Were the 2 home runs hit during the course of 1 baseball game? No Over a period of time? Yes | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4376 Registered: 9-2010 |
Ok, can we call Man #1 Joshua, and Man #2 Matt? If so, did Joshua save Matt's life after HR #1 but before HR #2? After both of them? Before both of them? Was Joshua playing baseball, even though he wasn't a (professional) baseball player? Was Matt playing baseball? Was Matt watching baseball? Hit by a baseball? Are there any, um, euphemisms present in this puzzle? Or is it strictly PG-rated? (there is a death in it, anyway) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14829 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ok, can we call Man #1 Joshua, and Man #2 Matt? OK If so, did Joshua save Matt's life after HR #1 but before HR #2? After both of them? This Before both of them? Was Joshua playing baseball, even though he wasn't a (professional) baseball player? Was Matt playing baseball? Both Joshua and Matt were playing professionally Was Matt watching baseball? No Hit by a baseball? No Are there any, um, euphemisms present in this puzzle? Not at all Or is it strictly PG-rated? (there is a death in it, anyway) It may be PG-13 for violence, but there's nothing off-color. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14830 Registered: 4-2010 |
BLOOPER: In answer to Ixoye's question, the man who hit the home runs is, in fact, a baseball player, as the last set of answers has shown. My bad. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 171 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did the ball itself save the life? The score? The noise from the crowd? Did the murderer change his/her mind? Or was (s)he stopped somehow? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4395 Registered: 9-2009 |
If he hadn't hit two home runs, would he still have been able to save the other man's life? If not, is it because he would have been somewhere else at the time? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14837 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the ball itself save the life? No The score? Yope/Yesish The noise from the crowd? No Did the murderer change his/her mind? Or was (s)he stopped somehow? NO to both! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14839 Registered: 4-2010 |
If he hadn't hit two home runs, would he still have been able to save the other man's life? No, possible slight FA If not, is it because Yope he would have been somewhere else at the time? Yes | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 177 Registered: 8-2011 |
Was someone else murdered instead? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14841 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was someone else murdered instead? Yesish | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 182 Registered: 8-2011 |
Was Joshua himself the murderer? If either man had not been playing professionally (say they were on a company team) would Matt's life still have been saved? Is the motive for the murder relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14848 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was Joshua himself the murderer? No If either man had not been playing professionally (say they were on a company team) would Matt's life still have been saved? The circumstances would have been entirely different; the puzzle would not work if it had not been professional baseball. Is the motive for the murder relevant? Yes. In fact there's a better word than "murder." | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4386 Registered: 9-2010 |
Manslaughter? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14853 Registered: 4-2010 |
Manslaughter? No | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4388 Registered: 9-2010 |
Homicide? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14854 Registered: 4-2010 |
Homicide? Also not the right word | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 189 Registered: 8-2011 |
Euthanasia? Hit-and-run? Motive: money? jealousy? anger? something to do with romantic relationships? someone just enjoys hurting/killing others? to keep the victim from doing something? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14859 Registered: 4-2010 |
Euthanasia? Hit-and-run? Neither Motive: money? jealousy? anger? something to do with romantic relationships? someone just enjoys hurting/killing others? Yopish to this, No to rest to keep the victim from doing something? Some common questions you haven't asked will help you. | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 12 Registered: 9-2011 |
True story? Fictional? FYOI? Is gambling involved? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14867 Registered: 4-2010 |
True story? This Fictional? FYOI? Is gambling involved? No | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4394 Registered: 9-2010 |
LTPF lists: Continent/country? Century/decade? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14873 Registered: 4-2010 |
LTPF lists: Continent/country? United States Century/decade? 2000s | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4395 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is the team from: AL? AK? AZ? AR? CA? CO? CT? DE? FL? GA? HI? ID? IL? IN? IA? KS? KY? LA? ME? MD? MA? MI? MN? MS? MO? MT? NE? NV? NH? NJ? NM? NY? NC? ND? OH? OK? OR? PA? RI? SC? SD? TN? TX? UT? VT? VA? WA? WV? WI? WY? A U.S. territory or similar? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14874 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the team from: Connecticut. That's as specific as you need to go location-wise. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4396 Registered: 9-2010 |
Minor or major league? (I've been assuming major, and we all know what assumptions do...*pokes self for creating last puzzle on an FA* *face-pawz*) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14875 Registered: 4-2010 |
Minor or major league? Minor league (I've been assuming major, and we all know what assumptions do...*pokes self for creating last puzzle on an FA* *face-pawz*) | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3476 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did Joshua and Matt play for the same team? Are their positions relevant? Was either of them a pitcher? Is there a 3rd person involved? Others as well? | ||
| Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp Post Number: 45 Registered: 9-2011 |
Was the period of time separating the two home runs... several weeks? within a single season? a year or two? more? Relevant whether there were other players on base for the specific home runs involved? Were the home runs actually during games -- or during exhibitions, batting practice, etc.? Something to do with running the basepaths relevant? The celebration at the plate? Were the games televised? Radio broadcast? Anything to do with being promoted/demoted to the majors relevant? I take it the man hitting the home runs did not KNOW he was saving anyone's life, nor did he intend to...? Was the prospective victim's life half-saved after the first home run? (I don't know what that question means, but maybe the answer will help :-) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14882 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did Joshua and Matt play for the same team? Yes Are their positions relevant? No Was either of them a pitcher? Matt was but irrel Is there a 3rd person involved? Others are involved, but not as much in the "baseball" bit Others as well? See prev Was the period of time separating the two home runs... several weeks? within a single season? a year or two? more? Only a day or two (relevant), so obviously the same season (relevant) Relevant whether there were other players on base for the specific home runs involved? No Were the home runs actually during games Yes -- or during exhibitions, batting practice, etc.? Something to do with running the basepaths relevant? The celebration at the plate? Neither Were the games televised? Radio broadcast? Irrel to both Anything to do with being promoted/demoted to the majors relevant? No I take it the man hitting the home runs did not KNOW he was saving anyone's life, nor did he intend to...? Correct, and important Was the prospective victim's life half-saved after the first home run? No, both HRs were needed (HR = home run for all you non-baseball-followers (I don't know what that question means, but maybe the answer will help :-) | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 19 Registered: 9-2011 |
Longshot- was Matt hit with a ball at any point, then taken to the hospital or somewhere else where the murderer couldn't get to him? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14888 Registered: 4-2010 |
Longshot- was Matt hit with a ball at any point, then taken to the hospital or somewhere else where the murderer couldn't get to him? No HINT: The murderer(s - there was more than one) were not targeting him specifically. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 216 Registered: 8-2011 |
Was the target contingent on the home runs? Such as, "IF Joshua hits two home runs this season, we won't kill his buddy Matt. But if he doesn't....we'll get him!!!"? I know that sounds silly, but I'm gathering information. Was the murder going to be attempted after the first home run? After the second? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14891 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the target contingent on the home runs? Such as, "IF Joshua hits two home runs this season, we won't kill his buddy Matt. But if he doesn't....we'll get him!!!"? Nothing like this, no I know that sounds silly, but I'm gathering information. Was the murder going to be attempted after the first home run? After the second? After both, but a few days after. In fact, the murder was not only attempted, but... | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3480 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was the motive for the murder revenge? To prevent something from happening in the future? To make some kind of statement? To intimidate someone, or a group of people? Did the murderer(s) personally know Matt? Joshua? So, even though Joshua was not killed, someone else was? Another baseball player? Someone present at the game? Someone not at the game? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4420 Registered: 9-2010 |
How about Pete and Jude for the murderer(s)? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14902 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the motive for the murder revenge? The murderers claim it was this To prevent something from happening in the future? To make some kind of statement? And this To intimidate someone, or a group of people? Many other people say it was this Did the murderer(s) personally know Matt? Joshua? NO So, even though Joshua was not killed, someone else was? Yes; actually, multiple people were killed. Another baseball player? Someone present at the game? Someone not at the game? Many people not at the game. It's possible that someone there was killed but I don't know. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14903 Registered: 4-2010 |
How about Pete and Jude for the murderer(s)? FA! There were more than 2 murderers | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4421 Registered: 9-2010 |
kaylee kitteh hates teh FA's... were there 3 murderers? 4? 5? 6? 7? 8? 9? 10? more? o.o | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14910 Registered: 4-2010 |
kaylee kitteh hates teh FA's... were there 3 murderers? 4? 5? 6? 7? 8? 9? 10? more? o.o Moar | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4422 Registered: 9-2010 |
between 10 and 50? 50 and 100? 100 and 1000? moar? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14912 Registered: 4-2010 |
between 10 and 50? This 50 and 100? 100 and 1000? moar? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3483 Registered: 1-2001 |
So it was a mob of people that killed a person? People that were angry with Matt? Angry with Joshua? Angry with both of them? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14913 Registered: 4-2010 |
So it was a mob of people No! that killed a person? Many people! People that were angry with Matt? Angry with Joshua? Angry with both of them? No to all | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3485 Registered: 1-2001 |
Were police involved in any capacity? Were the killings all done within the same area? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14915 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were police involved in any capacity? Yes Were the killings all done within the same area? In 3 areas Come on, you all really should know this...at least the killings bit... | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4424 Registered: 9-2010 |
a riot? I's a confuseded kitteh, Balin...=/ Anything to do with fans getting hurt by each other at a game? *wonders how the Giants fan is doing now* =( | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14919 Registered: 4-2010 |
a riot? No I's a confuseded kitteh, Balin...=/ Anything to do with fans getting hurt by each other at a game? No *wonders how the Giants fan is doing now* =( Don't know -- haven't had any updates recently. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3487 Registered: 1-2001 |
So this involves a minor league team from CT and another team also? Were the home runs hit during a playoff or season-ending championship? Were innocent people killed? Guilty people? Did Matt's team win the games during which the home runs were hit? Lose the games? Win one, lose one? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14920 Registered: 4-2010 |
a riot? No I's a confuseded kitteh, Balin...=/ Anything to do with fans getting hurt by each other at a game? No *wonders how the Giants fan is doing now* =( Don't know -- haven't had any updates recently. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14921 Registered: 4-2010 |
Sorry about the double-post: file-locking errors really screw up posting on Macs. So this involves a minor league team from CT and another team also? Yes Were the home runs hit during a playoff or season-ending championship? GREAT question! They were hit during a playoff series. Were innocent people killed? THIS ONE Guilty people? Did Matt's team win the games during which the home runs were hit? Lose the games? Win one, lose one? They won both -- great q! | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3490 Registered: 1-2001 |
Wow, stumbled onto something... Did winning the games cause Matt's team to win the playoff? In straight games? Had the other team won prior games against Matt's team, and Matt's team went on a streak and took the series? This angered fans of the opposing team, who did something that caused deaths of people? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14927 Registered: 4-2010 |
Wow, stumbled onto something... Did winning the games cause Matt's team to win the playoff? Yes In straight games? Yope -- see next answer Had the other team won prior games against Matt's team, and Matt's team went on a streak and took the series? Yes -- they had lost the first game of the series, but won the next three with the help of Joshua's home runs This angered fans of the opposing team, who did something that caused deaths of people? Totally incorrect | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 221 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did the other team murder the innocent people? The murderers: Human? Adult? Children? Several ages? Males? Females? Mixture of the two? The innocent people: Human? Adults? Children? Several ages? Males? Females? Mixture of the two? Method of murder relevant? If so, shooting? explosives? poison? stabbing? asphyxiation? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14933 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the other team murder the innocent people? No The murderers: Human? Adult? Children? Several ages? Males? Females? Mixture of the two? All HAM The innocent people: Human? Adults? Children? Several ages? Males? Females? Mixture of the two? Mixture of all of these (all humans) Method of murder relevant? Yes If so, shooting? explosives? poison? stabbing? asphyxiation? Explosions, crushing, asphyxiation, and a handful of other things. Probably some blunt trauma in there as well. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 227 Registered: 8-2011 |
Were they all murdered at once? At separate times? Is this scenario close: the murderers planted explosives in a building or other structure, which exploded, killing the victims in manner you described (explosion, crushing, asphyxiation, blunt trauma, etc.)? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14935 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were they all murdered at once? At separate times? In the course of one day Is this scenario close: the murderers planted explosives in a building or other structure, No which exploded, Yesish/Yope killing the victims in manner you described (explosion, crushing, asphyxiation, blunt trauma, etc.)? Yes | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 22 Registered: 9-2011 |
Was this an act of terrorism? (feel like i should remember it if it was) Random serial killer? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14939 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was this an act of terrorism? YES (feel like i should remember it if it was) Random serial killer? No | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4430 Registered: 9-2010 |
9/11 relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14940 Registered: 4-2010 |
9/11 relevant? A very big YES. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3493 Registered: 1-2001 |
Ahhh...would Joshua have been on one of the planes if not for the home runs that extended the series? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14942 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ahhh...would Joshua I think you mean "Matt" have been on one of the planes if not for the home runs that extended the series? Yep. **********SPOILER********** "Joshua" is Michael Cuddyer, Twins right fielder. "Matt" is Brad Thomas, Tigers pitcher. In 2001, they were teammates on the New Britain Rock Cats (the Twins' AA minor league affiliate), and were in the first round of the playoffs. Cuddyer hit two key home runs that helped the Rock Cats win the series and move on to the final round of the playoffs. In Cuddyer's words: "We knew that we were in the playoffs, but had we lost in the first round, the season would have been over Sept. 9. Brad had booked his flight for Sept. 11. He was not the only one who booked a flight that day, but he was the only one who was booked on the flight that took a detour off of its route from Boston to LA, right into the World Trade Center." The puzzle title is the first line of a poem about 9/11 that I found online. Nice work everyone, especially Tardigradeparty for a key leap, Kaylee for the connection, and Ixoye for putting it all together. Here are the links: the general article and the one in Cuddyer's words. May we never forget. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4431 Registered: 9-2010 |
Where were you when the world stopped turning On that September day? (No link to the song, but I'm sure Balin will provide if he wishes. I was asleep when the attacks happened, as I'm 3 hours earlier than the East Coast, but I was in school when I found out, just before lunch, in my U.S. History class. It was my aunt's 41st birthday. Despite declaring she never wanted another birthday, she turned 51 this year...) What a lucky escape for "Matt"!! Thanks to Matt (Balin, not "Matt") for posting the puzzle!! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14943 Registered: 4-2010 |
Where were you when the world stopped turning On that September day? a) I'm not sure what song you're referring to, but... b) I was in school. They called an assembly to tell us what had happened. Everything about that day other than the assembly is a blur, but we didn't get to leave early, I remember that. Link to the poem (it's the first one): http://www.9-11heroes.us/911-memorial-poems-c.php | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3495 Registered: 1-2001 |
Very good puzzle, good statement and nice idea. We all remember where we were on that day, and it's interesting to read about people who, like Brad, avoided being in danger due to circumstances that kept them from being on those planes. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4432 Registered: 9-2010 |
The song is called "Where Were You When The World Stopped Turning?" and is a song about 9/11. kaylee kitteh happenz to be country song fan. Our local country station, KRTY, played the song *a lot* that September, following the attacks, along with songs like "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue", and "Have You Forgotten?" (which came out some months later, when people were beginning to criticize the war in Afghanistan). | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 234 Registered: 8-2011 |
I was in school, too. I was in a typing class when they told us. But they didn't tell us much. |
