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Roger asked, "Does Leonore blister after 10 minutes at the beach?" although he knew she didn't. How come?
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Did he want to find out if the person he was asking knew Leonore? Or that she didn't blister after 10 minutes at the beach?
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Did he want to find out if the person he was asking knew Leonore? no Or that she didn't blister after 10 minutes at the beach? no
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Is Leonore H/A/F?
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and in that vein, is Roger H/A/M? is Leonore you, Nimue? Is this from one of your stories? =)
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is this a phrase used in elocution lessons? or by actors to warm up their voices or facial muscles?
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Not sure if this comes under elocution lessions but is this a phrase that helps people who stutter?
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Relevant who he asks? Any double/alternate meaning relevant? Is it a passphrase? Does he get an answer? If so, does the answer reveal any useful information to him? Does he expect it to? Did someone say something relevant to him before he asked? Does he say anything else relevant?
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Is Leonore H yes/Ayes but irrel/F? yes but irrel
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and in that vein, is Roger H yes/A yes but irrel/M? yes but irrel is Leonore you, Nimue? no Is this from one of your stories? no =)
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is this a phrase used in elocution lessons? no or by actors to warm up their voices or facial muscles? no
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Not sure if this comes under elocution lessions but is this a phrase that helps people who stutter? no
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Relevant who he asks? yesAny double/alternate meaning relevant? no Is it a passphraseno Does he get an answer? irrelIf so, does the answer reveal any useful information to him? irrelDoes he expect it to? no Did someone say something relevant to him before he asked? yesDoes he say anything else relevant? yes
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Did he expect an answer?
Was he trying to catch someone in a lie?
Is this staged in any way?
Is Leonore present? relevant?
The person asked:
-profession relevant?
-related to Leonore?
-related to Roger?
-malicious?
-benevolent?
-native English-speaker?
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If he substituted 10 minutes for 15 minutes would the puzzle still work ? If he substituted beach with sunbed? Is his profession relevant?
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Ěs there some sort of expirement going on?
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Did he expect an answer? yope
Was he trying to catch someone in a lie? no
Is this staged in any way? no
Is Leonore present? no relevant? yes
The person asked:
-profession relevant? no
-related to Leonore?irrel
-related to Roger? irrel
-malicious? yope
-benevolent?no
-native English-speaker? irrel, but he speaks English as like a native
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If he substituted 10 minutes for 15 minutes would the puzzle still work ? yesIf he substituted beach with sunbed? yes Is his profession relevant? no
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Ěs there some sort of expirement going on? no
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Is Leonore a real person?
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is it a sound test?

is it a dummy question they ask at the beginning of a polygraph test?

is it part of an advertisement?
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Is Leonore a real person? irrel
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is it a sound test?no

is it a dummy question they ask at the beginning of a polygraph test?no

is it part of an advertisement? no
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Do we need to find out more about the person that Rogers asks the question? Is their profession relevant?
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is Roger repeating something he said before? something someone else said?
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Do we need to find out more about the person that Rogers asks the question? yesIs their profession relevant? no
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is Roger repeating something he said before? possibly something someone else said? unlikely
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Is he being sarcastic?

Did Leonore leave early? Earlier than Roger expected? Earlier than Roger wanted? If she left, relevant where she went?

Did Leonore buy a lot of blister creme?
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Is he being sarcastic? yes or yesish

Did Leonore leave early? noEarlier than Roger expected? no Earlier than Roger wanted? no If she left, relevant where she went? no

Did Leonore buy a lot of blister creme? no
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did Leonore not want to go to the beach in the first place?
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did Leonore not want to go to the beach in the first place irrel & I think you have a false assumption here
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Is Roger making a joke?
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Is Roger making a joke?no
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is it the equivalent of saying "Does a bear sh*t in the woods?"?

is Leonore a redhead?
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is it the equivalent of saying "Does a bear sh*t in the woods?"? no

is Leonore a redhead?no
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so Roger speaks to someone - can we call them Sam? sam's gender relevant?

and roger is being sarcastic? and Sam is yopeishly malicious?
does roger like Leonore? does he like sam? does sam like leonore? does sam like roger?

is leonore the butt of roger's sarcasm? is sam?

could the question equally have been 'does leonore go red after 10 minutes at the beach'? burn? is the word blister necessary?

has roger seen leonore? has sam been speaking about her? are leonore's clothes relevant?

are any of these relevant to the puzzle - racism? politics? education? physical appearance? hobbies? pets? animals? jobs? laws? rules? ethics? money? music? art? books? travel? transport? cooking? food? alcohol? health? healthcare? the weather? disease?
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so Roger speaks to someone - can we call them Sam? suresam's gender relevant? no

and roger is being sarcastic? yes and Sam is yopeishly malicious? yope
does roger like Leonore? irrel does he like sam? no does sam like leonore? possibly does sam like roger? irrel

is leonore the butt of roger's sarcasm? nois sam? yes

could the question equally have been 'does leonore go red after 10 minutes at the beach'? yesburn? yes is the word blister necessary? no

has roger seen leonore? irrel has sam been speaking about her? yes are leonore's clothes relevant? no

are any of these relevant to the puzzle - racism? politics? education? physical appearance? hobbies? pets? animals? jobs? laws? rules? ethics? money? music? art? books? travel? transport? cooking? food? alcohol? health? healthcare? the weather? disease? just racism
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is sam racist? does roger dislike him for being racist? is leonore a friend of sam's? an acquaintance? someone he fancies? someone he has seen? someone he has heard of?

is leonore's race relevant? has sam said something about her race? about her skin colour?

when roger makes the comment is he in effect asking if leonore is white? or of a pale skinned race?

is sam saying she is not white? that she is white?

is roger's comment designed to expose racism in sam?
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is sam racist? yesdoes roger dislike him for being racist? yes is leonore a friend of sam's? irrel an acquaintance? irrel someone he fancies? irrelsomeone he has seen? irrel someone he has heard of? irrel

is leonore's race relevant? yes has sam said something about her race? yes about her skin colour? no

when roger makes the comment is he in effect asking if leonore is white? no or of a pale skinned race? noish

is sam saying she is not white? yes that she is white? no

is roger's comment designed to expose racism in sam? yes
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Is the use of the word "blister" instead of "burn/sunburn" relevant?
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Is the use of the word "blister" instead of "burn/sunburn" relevant? no
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does roger know that leonore is not white? is the purpose of his question to make the point that she is not white? or to make sam agree that she is not white?

sam's racism.... is he prejudiced against whites? blacks? asians? is sam's race relevant? white? black?

so does sam say something which implies that leonore is not white? that she is white?

is 'burning on the beach' used here as a signifier of being white?
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does roger know that leonore is not white? yes is the purpose of his question to make the point that she is not white? no or to make sam agree that she is not white? no

sam's racism.... is he prejudiced against whites? irrelblacks? yes, yesish, or yope asians? irrelis sam's race relevant? he could be any race white? black?

so does sam say something which implies that leonore is not white? yes that she is white? no

is 'burning on the beach' used here as a signifier of being white? yesish
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HINT: This puzzle relies on a device I have used in 2 recent puzzles.
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So, to make sure I understand:
Roger knows that Sam is racist. Sam's racism involves a hatred (Yes, Yesish, or Yope) of black people. Leonore is not white. Roger uses the statement as a sarcastic remark (sarcasm directed toward Sam). Is this correct?

Is Leonore black?
Does Roger know Leonore's race? Does Sam?
Does Roger intend to embarrass Sam? To get some information?
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So, to make sure I understand:
Roger knows that Sam is racist. yes Sam's racism involves a hatred (Yes, Yesish, or Yope) of black people. Sam's racism need not involve hatred at all. Leonore is not white. yes Roger uses the statement as a sarcastic remark (sarcasm directed toward Sam) yes. Is this correct? see previous answers

Is Leonore black? yes
Does Roger know Leonore's race? yesDoes Sam? yes
Does Roger intend to embarrass Sam? yes To get some information? no
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Is Roger's sarcastic question intended to point out an advantage of black skin (resistance to sunburn)?

Is this because Sam has said something implying he thinks (Leonore's) black skin is a disadvantage?
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Did Sam say something about Leonore? About black women? About black people? Was this thing negative? Neutral but still racist? Positive but still racist?
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Is Roger's sarcastic question intended to point out an advantage of black skin (resistance to sunburn)? no

Is this because Sam has said something implying he thinks (Leonore's) black skin is a disadvantage? no
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Did Sam say something about Leonore? yes About black women? see next answer About black people? yesish or yope Was this thing negative? yope Neutral but still racist? noPositive but still racist? yope
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Is it something that could be viewed as a positive or negative thing (as in, "They're not very good at lying")? Did he mention the beach/blistering/anything of that nature? Did the comment make a generalization about black people (as in, "They all...")?
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Is it something that could be viewed as a positive or negative thing (as in, "They're not very good at lying")? yesish Did he mention the beach/blistering/anything of that nature? no Did the comment make a generalization about black people (as in, "They all...")?yesish
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HINTR: Roger's comment was about Lenore as well as about blacks in general.
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Did he make a comment about a physical attribute of black people?
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Did he make a comment about a physical attribute of black people? no
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had he tried to make out that she wasn't really black? or not very black?
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had he tried to make out that she wasn't really black? see next answer or not very black? yes or yesish
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Did the comment mention a stereotypical personality trait of black people?
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Did the comment mention a stereotypical personality trait of black people? yesish or maybe yope
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Did the comment involve something they do? Or some personal quality (such as intelligence, temperament, etc.)?
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Did the comment involve something they do? irrel Or some personal quality (such as intelligence, temperament, etc.)? irrel
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Does the comment reveal Sam's feelings toward Leonore? toward black people?
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Does the comment reveal Sam's feelings toward Leonore? yesish or yope toward black people? ditto
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Are Sam's feelings toward Leonore the same as his feelings toward black people in general?

Is he angry at Leonore/black people? afraid? respectful? disgusted? attracted to Leonore/black people?

Did the comment reveal Sam's expectations of Leonore? of black people in general?
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Does the comment reveal Sam's feelings toward Leonore? yesish or yope toward black people? ditto
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Are Sam's feelings toward Leonore the same as his feelings toward black people in general? no--GOOOOOOOOOOD question!!

Is he angry at Leonore/black people? no/no afraid? no/norespectful? yes/noish disgusted? no/noattracted to Leonore/black people? possibly/probably not

Did the comment reveal Sam's expectations of Leonore? yesof black people in general? yes
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Does he expect that Leonore will do something? That she won't do something? Does he expect that she is different from other black people because she will/won't do this thing?
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Does he expect that Leonore will do something? probably That she won't do something? dittoDoes he expect that she is different from other black people because she will/won't do this thing? yes
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is Sam attracted to Leonore?
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is Sam attracted to Leonore? irrel
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Is Sam's relationship (friendship, professional, etc.) to Leonore relevant? How they met relevant?

He expects Leonore to do something good? to accomplish some feat?
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Is Sam's relationship (friendship, professional, etc.) to Leonore relevant? no How they met relevant?{ no}

He expects Leonore to do something good? possibly but not necessarily to accomplish some feat? ditto
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Is he praising Leonore?
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Is he praising Leonore? yes
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Is the setting (where the conversation is taking place) relevant?
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Is the setting (where the conversation is taking place) relevant? no
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Praising Leonore's-
-appearance?
-intelligence?
-success?
-family?
-possessions?
-personal values?
-something else?
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Praising Leonore's-
-appearance?
-intelligence?
-success?
-family?
-possessions?
-personal values?
-something else?It could be all or any of these
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Did he specifically state that he didn't think she was like other black people? Or was it implied?
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Did he specifically state that he didn't think she was like other black people?yes Or was it implied? no

********** SPOILER ************
Leonore is a black woman who is apolitical & whose main interest in life is her baroque chamber music group. When Sam said that Leonore "doesn't seem black," Roger asked whether she blistered after 10 minutes at the beach, to make the obvious point that it's stupid & racist to say that someone's personality & interests make her not seem black. Thanks for sticking with it, everyone, & for solving it, Ciaobella! Three guesses where you can find my next puzzle.
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Did he specifically state that he didn't think she was like other black people?yes Or was it implied? no

********** SPOILER ************
Leonore is a black woman who is apolitical & whose main interest in life is her baroque chamber music group. When Sam said that Leonore "doesn't seem black," Roger asked whether she blistered after 10 minutes at the beach, to make the obvious point that it's stupid & racist to say that someone's personality & interests make her not seem black. Thanks for sticking with it, everyone, & for solving it, Ciaobella! Three guesses where you can find my next puzzle.
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Good one- simple but challenging. Nice job, Nimue!
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Thanks-- and you did a nice job of solving it!!

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