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Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14895 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 1:56 pm: |      |
A variant on the neologism puzzles: this one takes an existing term and provides a new definition for it. About a month-and-a-half ago I went somewhere; while I was there, I saw something that I immediately began calling "The Battlements." What is "The Battlements"? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 5156 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 3:19 pm: |      |
Is it a singular or plural entity? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 49 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 3:33 pm: |      |
"went somewhere" IRL? virtual? dream? true story? 'went' = actual physical distance? indoors? outdoors? was what you saw a natural phenomenon (mountains, clouds, etc.)? the features that prompted the name in your mind, are they homogeneous (all comprising a single thing or multiples of the same type of thing); or heterogeneous (comprising many different things, which in combination sparked the "battlements" name)? Was what you saw permanent? ephemeral? If I went to the same somewhere, would I see the same something? Might I be inclined to call it the same term? Was there a reason you needed to give it a name? Did you have to talk about it? Or was the 'calling' just in your head? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 289 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 3:58 pm: |      |
Did you take a word that applied to a thing and apply it to people instead? animals? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 290 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 3:59 pm: |      |
or vice-versa? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14900 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 5:14 pm: |      |
Is it a singular or plural entity? Assume singular "went somewhere" IRL? Yes, real life virtual? dream? true story? 'went' = actual physical distance? Yes indoors? outdoors? Both? I guess it would be considered outdoors was what you saw a natural phenomenon (mountains, clouds, etc.)? No the features that prompted the name in your mind, are they homogeneous (all comprising a single thing or multiples of the same type of thing) This or heterogeneous (comprising many different things, which in combination sparked the "battlements" name)? Was what you saw permanent? This ephemeral? If I went to the same somewhere, would I see the same something? Yes Might I be inclined to call it the same term? Maybe Was there a reason you needed to give it a name? No; I just felt like it Did you have to talk about it? Or was the 'calling' just in your head? Did you take a word that applied to a thing and apply it to people instead? animals? or vice-versa? No to all |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1945 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 5:23 pm: |      |
was the thing you saw an exterior wall? of a building? public? private? was it crenellated? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14905 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 5:28 pm: |      |
was the thing you saw an exterior Yope/Yesish wall? Yes of a building? Yes public? private? I'm not sure what it's considered. Public? Maybe? was it crenellated? No |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 51 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 5:31 pm: |      |
Was it in an urban setting? Important to know the exact locale? Were "the battlements" smaller than a matchbox? smaller than breadbox? smaller than an automobile? bigger than a cottage? Did "the battlements" resemble (to you) battlements? In form? function? Other characteristic? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14908 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 5:43 pm: |      |
Was it in an urban setting? Yes Important to know the exact locale? Yes; you need to know what building it is Were "the battlements" smaller than a matchbox? smaller than breadbox? smaller than an automobile? No to all bigger than a cottage? The building definitely; the wall probably Did "the battlements" resemble (to you) battlements? Yope In form? function? Other characteristic? This, I guess |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 53 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 7:04 pm: |      |
Was the building an art gallery? (shot in the dark) |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 54 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 7:06 pm: |      |
Was there anything like a siege going on -- anything analogous to a siege? Were you being bombard from the wall (e.g., by pigeons, mosquitoes...)? Did the wall have a moat in front of it? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1947 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 7:12 pm: |      |
ARROWS? BOILING OIL? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14909 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 7:26 pm: |      |
Was the building an art gallery? (shot in the dark) No Was there anything like a siege going on -- anything analogous to a siege? No Were you being bombard from the wall (e.g., by pigeons, mosquitoes...)? No Did the wall have a moat in front of it? No ARROWS? BOILING OIL? Neither |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 55 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 8:15 pm: |      |
Was it a financial building? government building? store/shop/mall? parking garage? generic 'office building'? home/apartments? utility/factory? was it under construction? being demolished? Were other people around? Relevant? Relevant why you went there? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 56 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 8:16 pm: |      |
missed a few from the canonical LTPF list of buildings: - religious/worship - school/educational - amusement - transit/transportation - other...? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1948 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 8:47 pm: |      |
castle? palace? abbey? keep? fort? funfair? amusement arcade? restaurant? sports facility? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14914 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 9:21 pm: |      |
Was it a financial building? government building? store/shop/mall? parking garage? generic 'office building'? home/apartments? utility/factory? No to all was it under construction? being demolished? Neither Were other people around? Relevant? Yes and Yes, but not to the reologism Relevant why you went there? Yes missed a few from the canonical LTPF list of buildings: - religious/worship - school/educational - amusement This is OTRT... - transit/transportation - other...? castle? palace? abbey? keep? fort? funfair? amusement arcade? restaurant? sports facility? ...but this is exactly it. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4423 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 9:26 pm: |      |
hmm...was it a rock wall for climbing? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14917 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 9:29 pm: |      |
hmm...was it a rock wall for climbing? No |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 58 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 9:38 pm: |      |
Was it a stadium or similar? Did the "battlement" impression stem from the arrangement of hometown fans vs. visitor fans? (I think not, based on "Were other people around? Relevant? Yes and Yes, but not to the reologism") Anything to do with signage? Scoreboards? Concessionaires? Advertising? Crowd control? Pennants? Were you at a baseball game? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14923 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 9:41 pm: |      |
Was it a stadium or similar? It was a stadium Did the "battlement" impression stem from the arrangement of hometown fans vs. visitor fans? No Anything to do with signage? Scoreboards? Concessionaires? Advertising? Crowd control? Pennants? No to all Were you at a baseball game? No, but it would work for most baseball stadiums too, I think |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 713 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 9:50 pm: |      |
Is this a visual feature on stadiums? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14929 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 9:57 pm: |      |
Is this a visual feature on stadiums? I'm not sure what you mean by this. It's visible, if that's what you mean. |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 717 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 10:21 pm: |      |
Oh sorry! I just meant if it was part of the structure of a stadium. Do some stadiums have it and other don't? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14931 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 10:30 pm: |      |
Oh sorry! I just meant if it was part of the structure of a stadium. OK. In that case Yes, it is. Do some stadiums have it and other don't? Yes. It will help to figure out which do and which don't. |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 61 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 12:56 am: |      |
Some stadiums have a roof. relevant? Retractable roof? Some stadiums have higher walls than others, facing the playing area (e.g., Fenway's Green Monster). Relevant? Is the structural part in question visible from the seating area? A particular part of the seating area? Visible from outside the stadium, before entering? Visible from the air? Visible somewhere in the interior spaces (ramps, bathrooms, etc.)? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14938 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 1:16 am: |      |
Some stadiums have a roof. relevant? Yes, and these typically DON'T have The Battlements (AFAIK)! Retractable roof? These can have it Some stadiums have higher walls than others, facing the playing area (e.g., Fenway's Green Monster). Relevant? No Is the structural part in question visible from the seating area? YES A particular part of the seating area? YES Visible from outside the stadium, before entering? Usually, yes Visible from the air? Somewhat Visible somewhere in the interior spaces (ramps, bathrooms, etc.)? No |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4436 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 9:17 pm: |      |
I'm probably getting the terminology wrong..."balcony seats"? "box seats"? er, you know, the really high up ones...*sigh* |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14955 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 9:18 pm: |      |
I'm probably getting the terminology wrong..."balcony seats"? "box seats"? er, you know, the really high up ones...*sigh* The upper deck? Yes, this is where you can find The Battlements. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4437 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 9:21 pm: |      |
The wall of the upper deck? (thanks for the correction on terminology!) |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14957 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 9:24 pm: |      |
The wall of the upper deck? (thanks for the correction on terminology!) YES!! **********SPOILER********** The Battlements (n): the concrete wall at the back of the upper deck of a stadium. I came up with this term when I went to a preseason game at Gillette Stadium (home of the Patriots), and my seats were in the last row of the upper deck. Observing the concrete wall brought to mind the stereotypical medieval queenly command "Throw him over the battlements!" and a reologism was born. Nice work, everyone (Shez, Jvp, Kaylee, etc.); new puzzle below. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4439 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 9:25 pm: |      |
so long as there is no throwing of cheezburgur? =) hehe. Who won the game? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14959 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 9:28 pm: |      |
The Patriots won. I only stayed for the first half, though, as it was a late game and I had to be somewhere the next morning. And you have no idea how tempted I was to throw some random object over the wall... |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1959 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2011 - 9:32 am: |      |
and no throwing of kittehs of course |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4447 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2011 - 4:52 pm: |      |
o yez, plz foar there to be no throwin of kittehz... |