| Author | Message | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4891 Registered: 5-2003 |
I recently learned that, like doubtless many others, I had a scrund about the United States Navy. One part of this scrund may well apply to other navies, but a second, more specialized aspect of the scrund only applies to life aboard American aircraft carriers. What is it? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15063 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the Naval Academy relevant? Is actual service? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2029 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it that they employ real seals? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2030 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it to do with life at sea? sleeping arrangements? washing arrangements? toilet arrangements? food? recreational activities? uniform/clothing? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4894 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the Naval Academy relevant? No. Is actual service? Yesish - look out for FAs. is it that they employ real seals? Heh. No. is it to do with life at sea? Yes. sleeping arrangements? washing arrangements? toilet arrangements? food? This applies to the second part of the scrund. recreational activities? uniform/clothing? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15074 Registered: 4-2010 |
Military food relevant? K-rations? Any other type of rations? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2033 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it to do with the food which is served every day? on special occasions? to the officers? other ranks? how it is served? what is served? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4896 Registered: 5-2003 |
Military food relevant? Only in the sense that it is eaten by the military. K-rations? No. Any other type of rations? No. is it to do with the food which is served every day? Not exactly served, but yes. on special occasions? No. to the officers? other ranks? Both. how it is served? If you can call it that. what is served? Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15095 Registered: 4-2010 |
Military cafeteria slop (as it is often thought of in jokes) relevant? Is military food actually slop? Actually bad? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4900 Registered: 5-2003 |
Military cafeteria slop (as it is often thought of in jokes) relevant? Is military food actually slop? Actually bad? None of these. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2039 Registered: 2-2011 |
is this food actually eaten in the mess? (I'm sure you don't call it that - the canteen or whatever) vending machines? takeaway? buffet? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4903 Registered: 5-2003 |
is this food actually eaten in the mess? (I'm sure you don't call it that - the canteen or whatever) No. vending machines? This. takeaway? buffet? | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 349 Registered: 7-2011 |
Is it relevant when they choose to go to vending machines? ... why they choose? Do they need instant protein? Are they saving vending machine food for later? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2046 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it about what products are made available in the vending machines? is this drink? candy? other food? is it about whether they supply Coke rather than Pepsi? is it about providing healthy snacks? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4905 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is it relevant when they choose to go to vending machines? No. ... why they choose? No. Do they need instant protein? Irr. Are they saving vending machine food for later? Irr. is it about what products are made available in the vending machines? is this drink? candy? other food? is it about whether they supply Coke rather than Pepsi? is it about providing healthy snacks? No to all. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15111 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the cost of the vending machine stuff relevant? Is there any food in the vending machine? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2050 Registered: 2-2011 |
when is a food not a food? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4906 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the cost of the vending machine stuff relevant? No. Is there any food in the vending machine? Yes. when is a food not a food? Irr. | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 367 Registered: 7-2011 |
Is there a joke about using vending machines rather than finding food elsewhere? Or, like, is there some camaraderie that's relevant to the above question? (Jen, this is a really good puzzle!) | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4908 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is there a joke about using vending machines rather than finding food elsewhere? Or, like, is there some camaraderie that's relevant to the above question? No to both. | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 388 Registered: 7-2011 |
Is it relevant who supplies the vending machines? Is this an issue that makes soldiers or staff happy? Unhappy? Balin asked about costs; are costs in ANY way relevant? I don't know much about aircraft carriers, but I know they go far out into the ocean. (Pause for laughter from everyone else.) Is it relevant that they are far from shore? What I mean is - is logistics important to your puzzle? | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 389 Registered: 7-2011 |
(I wrote "soldiers." I should have said "sailors" or "naval employees" - sorry.) | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2083 Registered: 2-2011 |
you said food applies to the second part of the scrund, but later when I asked "other food" you said no - are the vending machines relevant to the first part? to the second? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4921 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is it relevant who supplies the vending machines? Yes. Is this an issue that makes soldiers or staff happy? Unhappy? Irr. Balin asked about costs; are costs in ANY way relevant? No. I don't know much about aircraft carriers, but I know they go far out into the ocean. (Pause for laughter from everyone else.) Is it relevant that they are far from shore? No. What I mean is - is logistics important to your puzzle? Yes. you said food applies to the second part of the scrund, but later when I asked "other food" you said no - are the vending machines relevant to the first part? to the second? This. | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 397 Registered: 7-2011 |
Does the US Navy supply and fill the vending machines? Does a local company supply and fill them? Are the machines supplied and filled by a variety of companies? Does your scrund involve: advertising? choice of food? choice of drink? Is it relevant that the choices in the vending machines vary, when the ship travels here and there? Or is it that the food is always the same, no matter where they travel? I want to clarify what seemed vague, above: Is it only food in the machines? Are there drinks? You said logistics is important, so: Are there choices of foods? Are there choices of drinks? Is it relevant when they are able to re-supply these machines? Is this part of the story? Can one buy a choice only by using U.S. currency? Is that relevant? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4925 Registered: 5-2003 |
Does the US Navy supply and fill the vending machines? No. Does a local company supply and fill them? What do you mean by "local?" Are the machines supplied and filled by a variety of companies? No. Does your scrund involve: advertising? choice of food? choice of drink? None of these. Is it relevant that the choices in the vending machines vary, when the ship travels here and there? No. Or is it that the food is always the same, no matter where they travel? No. I want to clarify what seemed vague, above: Is it only food in the machines? No. Are there drinks? I assume so. You said logistics is important, so: Are there choices of foods? Are there choices of drinks? Yes to both. Is it relevant when they are able to re-supply these machines? Yes. Is this part of the story? Yes. Can one buy a choice only by using U.S. currency? I assume so. Is that relevant? No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2104 Registered: 2-2011 |
do the aircraft carriers travel with a supply hip in convoy ready to re-stock the vending machines? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4929 Registered: 5-2003 |
do the aircraft carriers travel with a supply hip in convoy ready to re-stock the vending machines? No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2112 Registered: 2-2011 |
or even a supply ship? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4930 Registered: 5-2003 |
or even a supply ship? No. | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 752 Registered: 2-2009 |
Do the machines get restocked only in American ports? or could they get restocked in foreign ports as well? Can they get restocked while not in port (i.e., at sea)? Are the companies restocking the supply in foreign ports American companies? based on American military bases? local non-American companies? Are all products the same kinds we could get in any vending machine in America? or are there foreign items depending on where they're docked? Is life at sea relevant to both parts of the scrund? Is the aircraft carrier thing? or could the first part of the scrund relate to other ships? Navy on land? First part of scrund -- are any of these relevant: schedules? uniforms? PT? civilians? contractors? Marines? fleets? ports? Navy bases? staying in contact with family? social networking? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4970 Registered: 5-2003 |
Do the machines get restocked only in American ports? or could they get restocked in foreign ports as well? Can they get restocked while not in port (i.e., at sea)? This. Are the companies restocking the supply in foreign ports American companies? based on American military bases? local non-American companies? American companies. Are all products the same kinds we could get in any vending machine in America? Assume yes. or are there foreign items depending on where they're docked? Is life at sea relevant to both parts of the scrund? Yes. Is the aircraft carrier thing? No. or could the first part of the scrund relate to other ships? Yes. Navy on land? No. First part of scrund -- are any of these relevant: schedules? uniforms? PT? civilians? This. contractors? This. Marines? fleets? ports? Navy bases? staying in contact with family? social networking? None of the others. | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 757 Registered: 2-2009 |
Yay, I'm relevant! :-) Is the first part of the scrund about whether civilians and contractors are on board the ships? live on board ship? Is it about what they do on the ship? About their interactions with the military on board? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4972 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the first part of the scrund about whether civilians and contractors are on board the ships? live on board ship? This. Is it about what they do on the ship? About their interactions with the military on board? | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 765 Registered: 2-2009 |
Is it specifically about whether they live on board? or where they live on board? or what their quarters are like? Did you think they live on board but they don't? Did you think they didn't but they do? Is this about whether they live in the same areas as military? whether they have quarters similar to those of military? Back to the second part, is it relevant to the scrund what method of transportation is used when bringing food/drinks to restock? military transport? or business-owned transport? jets? helicopter? fighter plane :-) ? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4980 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is it specifically about whether they live on board? This. or where they live on board? or what their quarters are like? Did you think they live on board but they don't? Did you think they didn't but they do? This. You've solved part of the puzzle. Is this about whether they live in the same areas as military? whether they have quarters similar to those of military? No to both. Back to the second part, is it relevant to the scrund what method of transportation is used when bringing food/drinks to restock? No. military transport? or business-owned transport? jets? helicopter? fighter plane :-) ? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1790 Registered: 9-2009 |
Just to make sure I understood correctly: the first part of the scrund was that civilians/contractors that work in logistics such as resupplying vending machines don't live on board ships (carriers or others), while in fact they do, correct? For the second part: could that scrund apply to non-American aircraft carriers? Is it also related to civilians living on board of them? Does it concern the relations between them and the military personnel? Their involvement in military operations? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4983 Registered: 5-2003 |
Just to make sure I understood correctly: the first part of the scrund was that civilians/contractors that work in logistics such as resupplying vending machines don't live on board ships (carriers or others), while in fact they do, correct? Actually, that's both parts of the scrund. **** Spoiler **** I recently learned that civilian support is actually fairly common aboard US Navy ships. Representatives of the companies that build the armament, engines and aircraft are all present aboard some ships. This made sense when I thought about it, and makes the first part of the scrund. The second, however, is that less obviously necessary civilians are also present. Aboard the largest ships, they include civilians whose only job is to -- service the vending machines. Which I hadn't even imagined... | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2337 Registered: 2-2011 |
that's truly amazing! |
