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Brtd (Brtd)
New member Username: Brtd
Post Number: 31 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 7:20 am: |      |
Tom, an atheist, was hit and bruised by Aaron, a devout Christian. Tom holds no ill toward Aaron because of this, nor does Aaron feel any guilt, and they both enjoyed the event, but had Tom known Aaron was a Christian, it would've probably not occurred. |
Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan
Post Number: 437 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 7:30 am: |      |
Were they in a group? Possibly, a group where someone was proselytizing for either deism or atheism? Was it in a place that should be free of religious worries, such as a music concert? Are Tom and Aaron brothers? Siamese twins? Total strangers? Wait: are they children? Do they speak the same language? Did they attend the event for the same reasons? Great quiz! |
Brtd (Brtd)
New member Username: Brtd
Post Number: 33 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 7:38 am: |      |
Were they in a group? Yesish, this depends on definition of "group" Possibly, a group where someone was proselytizing for either deism or atheism? No Was it in a place that should be free of religious worries, such as a music concert? Yes Are Tom and Aaron brothers? No Siamese twins? No Total strangers? Yes Wait: are they children? No Do they speak the same language? Yes Did they attend the event for the same reasons? Noish |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 591 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 3:42 pm: |      |
Is some sort of sport involved? Would the puzzle statement still be true if Aaron were a devout Jew, for example? |
Brtd (Brtd)
New member Username: Brtd
Post Number: 34 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 4:43 pm: |      |
Is some sort of sport involved? No Would the puzzle statement still be true if Aaron were a devout Jew, for example? Unlikely |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 1867 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 12, 2011 - 7:37 pm: |      |
Is it relevant with what Christian denomination was Aaron affiliated? "had Tom known Aaron was a Christian, it would've probably not occurred" -- it = the event? the enjoyment of both parties? Is any other person relevant? |
Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby
Post Number: 265 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Monday, December 12, 2011 - 11:14 pm: |      |
"had Tom known Aaron was a Christian, it would've probably not occurred" because Tom wouldn't have been there? because Tom wouldn't have let Aaron hit him? because Aaron wouldn't have been there? because Aaron wouldn't have hit him? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 601 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 1:19 am: |      |
Turning my previous question around: Would it be the same if Tom were not an atheist, but belong to some non-Christian faith? Make that a 2-part question, please. |
Brtd (Brtd)
New member Username: Brtd
Post Number: 38 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 4:45 am: |      |
Is it relevant with what Christian denomination was Aaron affiliated? no"had Tom known Aaron was a Christian, it would've probably not occurred" -- it = the event? yes the enjoyment of both parties? irrelevant as event wouldn't have occurred Is any other person relevant? Yesish, in that other people were present and the event wouldn't have happened otherwise Because Tom wouldn't have been there? likely because Tom wouldn't have let Aaron hit him? in a sense because Aaron wouldn't have been there? no because Aaron wouldn't have hit him? no Turning my previous question around: Would it be the same if Tom were not an atheist possibly but belong to some non-Christian faith? possibly Hint: Even if Tom had been a Christian it's not unlikely he would feel the same way.no |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 246 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 8:58 am: |      |
Did Aaron mean to bruise Tom? To hit him? Or was either an accidental result of something else? Did he actually physically hit/bruise him, or is there some kind of lateral meaning of the word involved? Relevant what kind of religious beliefs others present had? |
Brtd (Brtd)
New member Username: Brtd
Post Number: 41 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 3:37 am: |      |
Did Aaron mean to bruise Tom? noTo hit him? Not exactlyOr was either an accidental result of something else? It wasn't exactly an "accident" and wasn't unexpected but not deliberate Did he actually physically hit/bruise him, or is there some kind of lateral meaning of the word involved? physically hit him Relevant what kind of religious beliefs others present had? Not really. Some felt the same way as Tom no doubt. |
Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby
Post Number: 283 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 11:20 pm: |      |
I know you said sport wasn't involved - but what if I asked if they were playing a game? Did Tom also hit Aaron? and bruise him? Did Aaron hit others at the event? Did Tom hit others at the event? Was it a mosh pit? Did Aaron hit Tom with his fist? with a weapon? a bat? a sword? a pole? Were they doing some kind of historic battle re-enactment? |
Brtd (Brtd)
New member Username: Brtd
Post Number: 42 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 7:30 am: |      |
I know you said sport wasn't involved - but what if I asked if they were playing a game? no Did Tom also hit Aaron? and bruise him? no Did Aaron hit others at the event? yes Did Tom hit others at the event? possibly Was it a mosh pit? yes Did Aaron hit Tom with his fist? yes with a weapon? no a bat? no a sword? no a pole? no Were they doing some kind of historic battle re-enactment? no |
Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby
Post Number: 286 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 5:35 pm: |      |
was the mosh pit at a live gig? are either of them members of the band playing? would tom be shocked to learn that devout christians were fans of the band? would it put him off the band? did tom misunderstand the nature of the band and or music? |
Brtd (Brtd)
New member Username: Brtd
Post Number: 44 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 8:41 am: |      |
was the mosh pit at a live gig? Yes are either of them members of the band playing? Yes would tom be shocked to learn that devout christians were fans of the band? No would it put him off the band? Yes did tom misunderstand the nature of the band and or music? Yesish |
Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby
Post Number: 300 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 12:23 pm: |      |
so aaron, who is in the band? frontman? hit tom who was attending the gig in the mosh pit? it was a christian rock gig and tom wouldn't have been there if he'd known that? he just thought it was a rock gig? |
Brtd (Brtd)
New member Username: Brtd
Post Number: 45 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 5:06 pm: |      |
You're kind of close enough. Tom went to a hardcore show not aware that there was any Christian bands on the bill. And if you've ever been to such a show you know that there's no way you can tell if a band is Christian by seeing them unless they mention it...which they frequently don't. Aaron by the way is based on a real person with the same name (Aaron Weiss) and this is an example of his band and what I was thinking of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk2OLYK0yx4 |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16085 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 5:47 pm: |      |
Good one! (Just a reminder, don't forget to mark the ****SPOILER****) |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 1879 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 9:44 pm: |      |
I've never been to such a show and I don't understand -- are they based on religion preferences, or what? |
Brtd (Brtd)
New member Username: Brtd
Post Number: 47 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 3:21 am: |      |
The percentage of atheists/agnostics in this scene is far higher than the general population and many are turned off by any Christian band, even those that don't make a big deal out of it. So if such a band ends up on a show bill with mostly secular bands (happens all the time) these type of scenarios happen. I saw the band in the video play at a venue owned by a staunch atheist. |
Brtd (Brtd)
New member Username: Brtd
Post Number: 48 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 3:22 am: |      |
Bleh I clicked fast and missed the defaulting to BBCode, oh well lol |