| Author | Message | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2382 Registered: 12-2010 |
For some of you, it makes a difference. For some of you, it doesn't. For me, it does. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5143 Registered: 9-2010 |
o hai Doriana kitteh! LTPF = awl of us? teh website? you = us? H/A/M? H/A/F? Mixed? me = Doriana kitteh? it = an action? a thing? a puzzle? a cheezburgur? lolspeak? Hi Doriana! Does the title "LTPF" refer to us, the members of the Lateral Thinking Puzzle Forum? Or to the site?? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2383 Registered: 12-2010 |
o hai Doriana kitteh! LTPF = awl of us? yes, all of us, and other people too teh website? also the website you = us? yes H/A/M? H/A/F? Mixed? H/A/mixed, and at least one kitteh! me = Doriana kitteh? indeed it = an action? a bit of this a thing? and a bit of this a puzzle? noish, but puzzles are relevant a cheezburgur? lolspeak? no to these Hi Doriana! Does the title "LTPF" refer to us, the members of the Lateral Thinking Puzzle Forum? Or to the site?? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 1180 Registered: 7-2010 |
Is language relevant? The fact that, as far as I can tell, most people here are from the US and/or English native speakers? Knowledge about different history/school systems/political sytems/sports relevant? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2384 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is language relevant? yes - that was fast The fact that, as far as I can tell, most people here are from the US and/or English native speakers? yes Knowledge about different history/school systems/political sytems/sports relevant? no | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 1181 Registered: 7-2010 |
Is the need to look up words relevant? Misunderstanding words? Misunderstanding phrases? Understanding the nuances between similar words relevant? Having problems to properly answer questions due to language problems relevant (I know this sometimes gives me trouble)? Having trouble formulating questions relevant? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2386 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is the need to look up words relevant? Misunderstanding words? Misunderstanding phrases? Understanding the nuances between similar words relevant? Having problems to properly answer questions due to language problems relevant (I know this sometimes gives me trouble)? Having trouble formulating questions relevant? unfortunately, these all get a no, although I'm sure every non-native LTPF member has experienced one or more of these problemes (: | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 274 Registered: 11-2011 |
is punctuation relevant? using upper case characters? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2387 Registered: 12-2010 |
is punctuation relevant? using upper case characters? no to both | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami Post Number: 445 Registered: 2-2008 |
Does it involve British vs. American English? Or any kind of colloquialism? Are we talking about something that the LTPF does differently than other websites? Than other people? Something that some puzzlers do different than others? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2388 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does it involve British vs. American English? Or any kind of colloquialism? no to both Are we talking about something that the LTPF does differently than other websites? Than other people? Something that some puzzlers do different than others? no to all - it's something that can happen outside the LTPF too. Hey Gourami, I haven't seen you round here for quite a while, I hope everything's alright? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 605 Registered: 8-2011 |
Does this puzzle involve errors in grammar or spelling? Intentional errors (what an odd phrase)? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2390 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does this puzzle involve errors in grammar or spelling? Intentional errors (what an odd phrase)? no to both | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 290 Registered: 11-2011 |
are 'smileys' relevant? differences in time zones? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2391 Registered: 12-2010 |
are 'smileys' relevant? differences in time zones? no to both HINT: See my very first answer to Kaylee's questions | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 1188 Registered: 7-2010 |
Does "other people" refer to people browsing on other websites? Or on people being on the LTPF without being a member? Do other people help you solving puzzles? Does it refer to people giving you ideas for puzzles? Or to people being subject of a puzzle (like your mother and aunts in your "Sisters" one)? Or to people wanting to join the LTPF but being reluctant because they're afraid that their English is not good enough? German lateral puzzles relevant? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2397 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does "other people" refer to people browsing on other websites? yes, for example Or on people being on the LTPF without being a member? could be Do other people help you solving puzzles? Does it refer to people giving you ideas for puzzles? Or to people being subject of a puzzle (like your mother and aunts in your "Sisters" one)? Or to people wanting to join the LTPF but being reluctant because they're afraid that their English is not good enough? German lateral puzzles relevant? no to all | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2415 Registered: 12-2010 |
RECAP Something - which is an action, but also a thing - makes a difference to some people, whereas it doesn't make one for others. (Sounds confusing, I know...) It's relevant that some of us are native English speakers and others are not, but looking up words etc. is not relevant. The thing we're looking for can occur on the LTPF, on other websites, and, HINT, outside of the internet. | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 1209 Registered: 7-2010 |
Is it a word that, in the English language, can be a verb as well as a noun, such as "look" or "walk"? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2419 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is it a word that, in the English language, can be a verb as well as a noun, such as "look" or "walk"? no | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1415 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is German specifically relevant? Is there a relevant difference between English and other languages? Grammatical gender? Another feature of grammar? Would it make a difference to native english speakers? Non-native speakers? Would it depend on what their native tongue was? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2453 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is German specifically relevant? no Is there a relevant difference between English and other languages? yes, but I think it's not on the level you're thinking of Grammatical gender? Another feature of grammar? no to rest Would it make a difference to native english speakers? no Non-native speakers? yes Would it depend on what their native tongue was? it makes a difference to all non-native speakers of English | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2582 Registered: 2-2011 |
is punctuation relevant? contractions? slang? different types of English (ie UK v US)? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2454 Registered: 12-2010 |
is punctuation relevant? contractions? slang? different types of English (ie UK v US)? no to all | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami Post Number: 483 Registered: 2-2008 |
Hi again Doriana--just working two jobs plus some other recent hassles. But all is well, thanks! Does it deal with how different languages pose questions? Write dates? Does it deal with using the internet itself, like URLs? The structure of websites? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2462 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does it deal with how different languages pose questions? Write dates? no to both Does it deal with using the internet itself, like URLs? The structure of websites? no, keep in mind that it can happen offline as well | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1891 Registered: 9-2009 |
Outside of the Internet: in print media? in books? in speaking? Is this a feature that opposes the native English speakers to all non-natives, or are non-natives who share the feature with the natives? If one is a non-native speaker but nevertheless has a perfect command of the English language, would this feature make any difference to him? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2464 Registered: 12-2010 |
Outside of the Internet: in print media? in books? in speaking? it could happen in all three of them, although speaking might be less likely Is this a feature that opposes the native English speakers to all non-natives, or are non-natives who share the feature with the natives? the latter If one is a non-native speaker but nevertheless has a perfect command of the English language, would this feature make any difference to him? probably not | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 351 Registered: 11-2011 |
is poetry relevant? Rhyming? Rhythm? | ||
| Feenwelt (Feenwelt)
New member Username: Feenwelt Post Number: 149 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is it about understanding acronyms? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
Moderator Username: Peter365 Post Number: 84 Registered: 1-2011 |
Doriana I've put this puzzle into Lateral Limbo for now . You can reactivate it by answering the outstanding questions | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2466 Registered: 12-2010 |
Dear lateral friends, sorry for my absence (: is poetry relevant? Rhyming? Rhythm? no to all Is it about understanding acronyms? no, but OTRT Hello Feenwelt, I don't think we've met before. Doriana's the name, or Lena. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2471 Registered: 12-2010 |
And, another RECAP Something - which is an action, but also a thing - makes a difference to some people, whereas it doesn't make one for others. It's relevant that some of us are native English speakers and others are not, but no specific grammatical or linguistic feature of the English language is directly relevant. The thing we're looking for can occur on the LTPF, on other websites, and in written or maybe even oral communication outside of the internet. Acronyms, together with something else, are relevant. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 820 Registered: 8-2011 |
The shortcut language popular mostly on the internet? For example, OMG, I 4gt my hw an now I g2g so ttfn. My teenage siblings sometimes talk like that out loud. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2483 Registered: 12-2010 |
The shortcut language popular mostly on the internet? For example, OMG, I 4gt my hw an now I g2g so ttfn. not directly relevant, although "OMG" might be My teenage siblings sometimes talk like that out loud. Makes my ears hurt! :D | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 316 Registered: 1-2012 |
The meaning of 'OMG'? I say 'Oh my gosh', not...the OTHER thing. :-) | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 13 Registered: 2-2012 |
Re OMG: I always thought that OMG was "oh my god!". What's the other meaning you had in mind, and sorry if I'm being really naive, and regardless, back to the puzzle! | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 828 Registered: 8-2011 |
Beachbum, Kyeann may have had exactly that expression in mind. Some people find it offensive. Kyeann may correct me if I am wrong. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16633 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the song "OMG" relevant? | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 14 Registered: 2-2012 |
Beachbum, Kyeann may have had exactly that expression in mind. Some people find it offensive. Kyeann may correct me if I am wrong. Oops, sorry, I truly didn't know that was an offensive phrase for some!! If that's the case, my apologies! | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 320 Registered: 1-2012 |
That is exactly what I mean. And don't worry about it, Beachbum. (Wow, didn't mean to start a whole discussion. But I suppose I should have seen it coming.) | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2485 Registered: 12-2010 |
The meaning of 'OMG'? not relevant Is the song "OMG" relevant? there is a song called OMG? Didn't know that, so... not relevant | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5389 Registered: 9-2010 |
The difference between hamburger and Hamburger? =D I keepz hopin foar cheezburgur tu be relevunt...*wantz nomz* | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 505 Registered: 1-2012 |
Poor kayleekitteh! She haz no cheezburgur! *gives cheezburgur* I had Freddy's cheezburgurs today. GOOD NOMZ. | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1758 Registered: 9-2010 |
Shorthand chat like OMG, LOL, or LTPF? Some other LTPF relevant? If so, is it: Let Them Play Foundation? LTPF - Lėtzebuerger Tractor Pulling Federatioun? Low Temperature Phase Change? Long term private capital? Local Test Port Control Unit? Lawrence Township Police Department (of New Jersey)? Long Term Paddler Development (British Canoe Union)? Long-Term Performance Degration? Long-Term Private Debt? Lot Tolerance Percent Defective? Louisiana Tech University Police Department? Long Term Player Development Pathway (youth sports)? Long-Term Public Finance Report (UK)? Les Transports Publics Genevois (French: Geneva Public Transport; Switzerland)> Litigation and Trial Practice Group? Long Term Planning Guideline? Laboratory of Thermodynamics and Physicochemical Hydrodynamics (Sofia University; Bulgaria)? Learn to Play Hockey (educational clinic; Igloo at Mt. Laurel; Mt. Laurel, NJ)? Lambda Theta Phi Latin Fraternity, Inc? Long Term Performance Incentive Plan? Leepertown Township Public Library (Bureau Junction, IL)? Leland Township Public Library (Leland, MI)? Lesbian and Transgender something or other? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 511 Registered: 1-2012 |
I hereby present Gregory with the ownership of the [LTPF list of things with the acronym LTPF]. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5470 Registered: 9-2010 |
*as the Secretary of Penguin Defense for Gregory Coke Land, and whatever other roles Gregory wants to give me, lol, makes a note of the fact that official correspondence with him should have his title as Grand Master Gregory Coke, Owner of The LTPF List of LTPFs* | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 592 Registered: 1-2012 |
As a fairly new LTPFer, I did not know about that, and apologizes to the Secretary of Penguin Defense, as well as Grand Master Gregory Coke, Owner of The LTPF List of LTPFs. ~Kyeannpepper, Owner of The LTPF List of Increasingly Desperate Ways to Open a Lock (see Balin's latventure) | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5479 Registered: 9-2010 |
^_^ no problem, Kyeannpepper =) | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
Moderator Username: Peter365 Post Number: 103 Registered: 1-2011 |
I've put this puzzle into Limbo for now. You can reactivate it by answering the outstanding questions. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2487 Registered: 12-2010 |
Hello my dear laterally inclined friends, I'm so sorry for not having been here for such a long time. Anyway, time to answer some questions (: The difference between hamburger and Hamburger? =D nope Shorthand chat like OMG, LOL, or LTPF? no Some other LTPF relevant? Good idea, but no. An impressive list nonetheless! If so, is it: Let Them Play Foundation? LTPF - Lėtzebuerger Tractor Pulling Federatioun? Low Temperature Phase Change? Long term private capital? Local Test Port Control Unit? Lawrence Township Police Department (of New Jersey)? Long Term Paddler Development (British Canoe Union)? Long-Term Performance Degration? Long-Term Private Debt? Lot Tolerance Percent Defective? Louisiana Tech University Police Department? Long Term Player Development Pathway (youth sports)? Long-Term Public Finance Report (UK)? Les Transports Publics Genevois (French: Geneva Public Transport; Switzerland)> Litigation and Trial Practice Group? Long Term Planning Guideline? Laboratory of Thermodynamics and Physicochemical Hydrodynamics (Sofia University; Bulgaria)? Learn to Play Hockey (educational clinic; Igloo at Mt. Laurel; Mt. Laurel, NJ)? Lambda Theta Phi Latin Fraternity, Inc? Long Term Performance Incentive Plan? Leepertown Township Public Library (Bureau Junction, IL)? Leland Township Public Library (Leland, MI)? Lesbian and Transgender something or other? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2019 Registered: 9-2009 |
Welcome back, Doriana! Is it something related to the history of the anglosphere (i.e., somebody with an English background is supposed to know, however not so much with somebody else)? Some specific event? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2493 Registered: 12-2010 |
Welcome back, Doriana! Thanks, and hello (: I hope I won't disappear as fast as I did last time. Sometimes, life just gets in the way... Is it something related to the history of the anglosphere (i.e., somebody with an English background is supposed to know, however not so much with somebody else)? Some specific event? no to both | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5753 Registered: 9-2010 |
...wut? iz not worked awn awl summur? ...we can haz recat? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2513 Registered: 12-2010 |
...wut? iz not worked awn awl summur? lazee Doriana kitteh wuz nawt heer awl summur!! ...we can haz recat? shuar... ***RECAP*** Something - which is an action, but also a thing - makes a difference to some people, whereas it doesn't make one for others. It's relevant that some of us are native English speakers and others are not, but no specific grammatical or linguistic feature of the English language is directly relevant. The thing we're looking for can occur on the LTPF, on other websites, and in written or maybe even oral communication outside of the internet. Acronyms, together with something else, are relevant. I said that shorthand chat speak is not relevant, but thinking of it, it can apply to things such as LOL and OMG as well. HINT: It has to do with reading. | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1669 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is pronunciation relevant? Is it relevant whether acronyms are pronounced as a word or as letters (eg LOL as 'loll' or 'ell oh ell')? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2517 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is pronunciation relevant? yes Is it relevant whether acronyms are pronounced as a word or as letters (eg LOL as 'loll' or 'ell oh ell')? yes | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1670 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is the fact that letters are pronounced differently in different languages relevant? Is whether or not the letters are capitalised relevant? Whether or not they have full stops between them? Do non-native English speakers sometimes pronounce acronyms as a word when English people wouldn't? Or pronounce them as letters when English people wouldn't? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2520 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is the fact that letters are pronounced differently in different languages relevant? YES! - Now relate that to the puzzle statement and to the fact that this happens on the LTPF Is whether or not the letters are capitalised relevant? Whether or not they have full stops between them? no to both Do non-native English speakers sometimes pronounce acronyms as a word when English people wouldn't? Or pronounce them as letters when English people wouldn't? not that I know of | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1673 Registered: 4-2007 |
Do you pronounce 'LTPF' differently to how an english speaker would? Does it sound like a word to you? Are other abbreviations used on the site relevant? HAM/F? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5757 Registered: 9-2010 |
Are some of the LTPF acronyms actual words in German? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2522 Registered: 12-2010 |
Do you pronounce 'LTPF' differently to how an english speaker would? yes Does it sound like a word to you? no Are other abbreviations used on the site relevant? yes, abbreviations in general are relevant HAM/F? this too Are some of the LTPF acronyms actual words in German? no Since I have four running puzzles at the moment (an LTPF cardinal sin), I'll put everything together now so that we have a ********SPOILER******** A while ago I read that most people pronounce acronyms and numbers in their native language when reading a text in their mind, even if the text is in another language. To the native speakers, it doesn't make a difference whether they pronounce the acronyms on here in their native language or in English because it's the same language. To the non-native speakers (me included), it does make a difference. Nice solve, Enjay! Thanks for playing, and please have a look at my other puzzles (: |
