| Author | Message | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 275 Registered: 11-2011 |
He had a strong suspicion that this had occurred on the Tuesday just gone... He is an adult human. A quickie I think! | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3790 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the date 13/12/11 relevant? Could this be any tuesday? any day in December? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 276 Registered: 11-2011 |
Is the date 13/12/2011 relevant? no-ish Could this be any tuesday? no any day in December? no-ish | ||
| Dagger_eye (Dagger_eye)
New member Username: Dagger_eye Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2011 |
Does "this" happen only once a year? Once ever? Is "this" something personal? Or would everyone know of it? Does "this" always occur on the same date (like a birthday)? Would he get in trouble for forgeting it? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 285 Registered: 11-2011 |
Does "this" happen only once a year? Once ever? "this" is a one off event that took place in the frame of the puzzle. it is FMOI but based on a real life event. Is "this" something personal? Or would everyone know of it? i'm not sure how to answer these, i think they are questions based on an FA. I hope the answer above helps. In the frame of the puzzle, and at the time of the puzzle statement, a limited number of people would be aware that "this" had occurred Does "this" always occur on the same date (like a birthday)? no, it happened once Would he get in trouble for forgetting it? for forgetting that this had occurred? strictly speaking, possibly, but irr and also FA i think... | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 606 Registered: 8-2011 |
Would "this" have made the news? crime relevant? politics? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 288 Registered: 11-2011 |
Would "this" have made the news? yes crime relevant? yes politics? no | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3794 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is there a taxi driver involved in this story at all? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 299 Registered: 11-2011 |
Is there a taxi driver involved in this story at all? possibly but irr in the puzzle. the true story that inspired the puzzle may have done but i don't know | ||
| Dagger_eye (Dagger_eye)
New member Username: Dagger_eye Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2011 |
Does he suspect that a crime has occured? Does he suspect he knows the perpetratior of "this"? Is his ocupation relevant? Is his relationship to "this" relevant? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 301 Registered: 11-2011 |
Does he suspect that a crime has occured? yes - he knows a crime has been committed Does he suspect he knows the perpetratior of "this"? yes. you're correct - "this" describes the crime Is his ocupation relevant? yes Is his relationship to "this" relevant? yes | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2486 Registered: 2-2011 |
was someone murdered? injured? was something stolen? is he a policeman? detective? victim? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 303 Registered: 11-2011 |
was someone murdered? this injured? was something stolen? no is he a policeman? yes detective? yes victim? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2494 Registered: 2-2011 |
is there something at the scene of the crime which indicates the day this happened? something on the corpse? was the corpse discovered in a house? are there a number of milk bottles or newspapers which have been delivered so the date can be calculated? is it because the victim didn't turn up for work on Tuesday? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 304 Registered: 11-2011 |
is there something at the scene of the crime which indicates the day this happened? something which causes the strong suspicion, yes something on the corpse? no was the corpse discovered in a house? yope, FA are there a number of milk bottles or newspapers which have been delivered so the date can be calculated? not either of these is it because the victim didn't turn up for work on Tuesday? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2495 Registered: 2-2011 |
is there no corpse? was the crime committed outdoors? indoors? a public building? an office? a church? restaurant? theatre? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 306 Registered: 11-2011 |
is there no corpse? no, there are corpses was the crime committed outdoors? indoors? yes a public building? an office? a church? restaurant? theatre? no to others | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3798 Registered: 1-2007 |
Has the detective viewed a murdered corpse? Was the suspicion that it occurred on the Tuesday based on any forensics? a post mortem? something in the vacinity of the crime scene? Is there any object that is dated anywhere in the crime scene e.g. a newspaper? Is this particular murder part of a series? In case you didn't realise I asked the Taxi Driver question because I thought you were quoting De Niro in the puzzle title. Is the movie Taxi Driver in any way relevant? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 314 Registered: 11-2011 |
Has the detective viewed a murdered corpse? yes, corpses Was the suspicion that it occurred on the Tuesday based on any forensics? no a post mortem? no something in the vacinity of the crime scene? yes Is there any object that is dated anywhere in the crime scene e.g. a newspaper? yes, but not a newspaper Is this particular murder part of a series? a multiple murder In case you didn't realise I asked the Taxi Driver question because I thought you were quoting De Niro in the puzzle title. Is the movie Taxi Driver in any way relevant? I realised after I'd answered the question - d'oh. Not relevant in any way. | ||
| Dagger_eye (Dagger_eye)
New member Username: Dagger_eye Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2011 |
Does he suspect the muders were commited on Tuesday because of a calander? Was everyday up to Tue crossed off and now it is, say Thu. Leaving uncrossed days between tue and today? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3799 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the crime scene a prison by any chance? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2502 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the crime scene someone's home? was there a computer there which gave away the date? a diary? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 315 Registered: 11-2011 |
Does he suspect the muders were commited on Tuesday because of a calander? yes Was everyday up to Tue crossed off and now it is, say Thu. Leaving uncrossed days between tue and today? yope, OTRT Is the crime scene a prison by any chance? no was the crime scene someone's home? yes was there a computer there which gave away the date? no a diary? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2508 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the calendar one where you tear off a page for each day? did the calendar indicate that on Tuesday a lot of people were coming round? did it say "murder"? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 318 Registered: 11-2011 |
is the calendar one where you tear off a page for each day? yope, OTRT did the calendar indicate on Tuesday a lot of people were coming round? did it say "murder"? no to both | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3800 Registered: 1-2007 |
Are the murder victims of mixed sex and age? Are they all found in one room in the house? Is the murder method relevant? Is there a murder weapon left at the scene? Is there any other relevant object in the room other than the calendar? On the calendar itself are there any hand written reminders like 'bin day' ? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 319 Registered: 11-2011 |
Are the murder victims of mixed sex and age? yes Are they all found in one room in the house? yes, but irr Is the murder method relevant? no Is there a murder weapon left at the scene? yes, but irr Is there any other relevant object in the room other than the calendar? no On the calendar itself are there any hand written reminders like 'bin day'? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2511 Registered: 2-2011 |
was there a significant event written on the calendar for Tuesday? was the calendar on the computer? was it one where you turn a page every day? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2512 Registered: 2-2011 |
was there a significant event written on the calendar for Tuesday? was the calendar on the computer? was it one where you turn a page every day? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2513 Registered: 2-2011 |
doh! sorry about the double post was last Tuesday New Year's Eve? so last year's calendar was still hanging there? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 322 Registered: 11-2011 |
was there a significant event written on the calendar for Tuesday? no was the calendar on the computer? no was it one where you turn a page every day? no was last Tuesday New Year's Eve? so last year's calendar was still hanging there? no, but that's a great thought and question. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3806 Registered: 1-2007 |
Does the calendar have any relevant pictures on it? Could it provide any other clues to the murders other than identifying when they happened? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 323 Registered: 11-2011 |
Does the calendar have any relevant pictures on it? yope Could it provide any other clues to the murders other than identifying when they happened? no | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 331 Registered: 11-2011 |
i've been reading through the posts and seen that perhaps one of my answers could have been misleading at the time. i think it's since been clarified the hard way, but for the avoidance of doubt, the false assumption was that there was only one corpse and not that they were discovered in a house - which is true. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2520 Registered: 2-2011 |
thanks for the clarification if not pictures, does the calendar have symbols on it? writing? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 333 Registered: 11-2011 |
if not pictures, does the calendar have symbols on it? it does have pictures on it, but they aren't relevant to why the detective thought this happened on the previous Tuesday. hint: they are perhaps somewhat relevant, however, to you getting on the right lines to solving the puzzle. hence the 'yope' to peter's question writing? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2524 Registered: 2-2011 |
were the corpses human? I'm thinking the calendar may have a huntin' shootin' fishin' theme, so if this had happened in the UK last Tuesday could be 12th August - 1st day of the grouse shooting season for example. | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 334 Registered: 11-2011 |
were the corpses human? yes I'm thinking the calendar may have a huntin' shootin' fishin' theme, so if this had happened in the UK last Tuesday could be 12th August - 1st day of the grouse shooting season for example. good thinking not this | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 335 Registered: 11-2011 |
and realising that I didn't actually answer the question earlier... does the calendar have symbols on it? possibly but nothing specifically relevant. assume no. | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 336 Registered: 11-2011 |
time for a hint:the solution to the puzzle is particularly morbid challenge your assumptions | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3814 Registered: 1-2007 |
Does the detective know who killed these people? Is the murderer also dead? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2528 Registered: 2-2011 |
the decomposition of the bodies relevant? maggots? had something started eating them? somebody? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 337 Registered: 11-2011 |
Does the detective know who killed these people? yes Is the murderer also dead? yes the decomposition of the bodies relevant? no maggots? no had something started eating them? no somebody? no | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3820 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the murderer's body with his victims? Has the murderer also being murdered? committed suicide? shot by police? Does the cause of the murderer's death differ significantly from that of his victims? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1260 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did anything else relevant to the puzzle happen on Tuesday (strike, riots, hurricane etc.)? Was the name of the murderer written on the calendar? Did detective deduce from the calendar that: victims had appointed meeting with the murderer on Tuesday? victims had appointed meeting with someone else on Tuesday? victims should have done something on Tuesday which has not been done? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 338 Registered: 11-2011 |
Is the murderer's body with his victims? yesHas the murderer also being murdered? no committed suicide? yes shot by police? no Does the cause of the murderer's death differ significantly from that of his victims? yope, see above Did anything else relevant to the puzzle happen on Tuesday (strike, riots, hurricane etc.)? no Was the name of the murderer written on the calendar? no Did detective deduce from the calendar that: victims had appointed meeting with the murderer on Tuesday? victims had appointed meeting with someone else on Tuesday? victims should have done something on Tuesday which has not been done? no to all - hint - if it said 'since Tuesday' in the last question it would have been a yes | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 340 Registered: 11-2011 |
*RECAP* Shortly after arriving at the crime scene, a detective strongly suspects that the crime occurred on the previous tuesday. the crime scene is somebody's home and there are a number of corpses present, including victims who have been murdered, and the murderer, who has committed suicide. The detective's suspicion comes from viewing a calendar at the crime scene. There is nothing written on the calendar, and no symbols, but there are pictures. From the calendar, the detective deduces that the victims should have done something since last tuesday that has not been done. Surely someone can $poyle this for me from the recap? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3822 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is Christmas relevant at all? Are the victim's themselves pictured on the calendar? Are they members of an organisation or group? that traditionally does something on a particular date? This should be obvious but I'm stumped. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1268 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the victims perform some relevant actions on a daily basis? If yes, would the results of this action be clearly visible in the surrounding? Would the results of this action be visible on the calendar? Is it a chocolate advent calendar? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 342 Registered: 11-2011 |
Is christmas relevant at all? YES! Is it a chocolate advent calendar? YES! $poiler to follow | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 343 Registered: 11-2011 |
***********SPOILER************ Upon arriving at the scene, it was clear that the guy had cruelly murdered his wife and three children before turning the gun on himself. Detective Wright looked sadly upon the unopened presents beneath the tree, when something caught his attention. He walked over to the advent calendars on the wall, all in a row. Noticing the unopened doors he remarked "I'd say this happened last Tuesday" Thanks for playing the puzzle with me, and have a very merry xmas | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2532 Registered: 2-2011 |
excellent festive puzzle! I love it! | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3827 Registered: 1-2007 |
D'oh. Great puzzle. |
