| Author | Message | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1273 Registered: 1-2011 |
Every Christmas I use an item, which people do not use for decades. I use my own one only in the Christmas season, although I sometimes use someone else's for a couple of days in summer. What is this and what do I use it for during Christmas? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2552 Registered: 2-2011 |
do you mean some people have them and haven't used them for decades? or do you mean that people in general haven't used them for decades? is the reason you use someone else's in summer instead of your own relevant? is it an object? a place? a concept? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1882 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the object related to preparing some kind of food? Are the Christmas traditions relevant? Is the object larger than a golf ball? Breadbox? Microwave? Refrigerator? Car? Do most people have this item in their household? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1274 Registered: 1-2011 |
Shez: do you mean some people have them and haven't used them for decades? Some people may have them, but do not use them anyway. or do you mean that people in general haven't used them for decades? But mostly this. is the reason you use someone else's in summer instead of your own relevant? May be helpful. is it an object? This. a place? a concept? Rbruma: Is the object related to preparing some kind of food? No. Are the Christmas traditions relevant? DOYD of Christmas tradition. Is the object larger than a golf ball? Yes. Breadbox? Similar, but its sizes may slightly vary. Microwave? No. Refrigerator? No. Car? No. Do most people have this item in their household? No. At least not in typical European or American household. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2553 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it quite an old-fashioned thing? has it generally been replaced by something more modern? a new invention? or is there simply no need for them any more? are you unable to use your own in the summer? or do you need two and that's why you borrow one? or do the other people need their own over Christmas and that's why you have to use your own? Christmas decorations relevant? people visiting? parties? do you use it for the same thing in summer and at Christmas? do you use it for the thing it was originally intended to do? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1275 Registered: 1-2011 |
Shez: is it quite an old-fashioned thing? Yes. has it generally been replaced by something more modern? Yes. a new invention? and yes. or is there simply no need for them any more? This too. are you unable to use your own in the summer? No. or do you need two No. and that's why you borrow one? I do not borrow this, as people do normally borrow things. I just use it. or do the other people need their own over Christmas and that's why you have to use your own? Yes, but they also use it in the summer. Christmas decorations relevant? No. people visiting? Noish. parties? No. do you use it for the same thing in summer and at Christmas? Literally speaking, yes. But there is a significant difference. do you use it for the thing it was originally intended to do? Yes. | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 1211 Registered: 7-2010 |
Is the thing used for communication? For making christmas cards? For writing? Is it a typewriter? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1280 Registered: 1-2011 |
Potato: Is the thing used for communication? No. For making christmas cards? No. For writing? No with a very indirect ish. Is it a typewriter? No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2555 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it used for printing? copying? do you use it indoors? when you are using it can other people see it? is it to do with heating? cooling? lighting? filming? recording? amplifying? is it mechanical? electrical? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1284 Registered: 1-2011 |
Shez: is it used for printing? copying? No to both. do you use it indoors? DOYD of indoors. It's possible to use it both indoors and outdoors. when you are using it can other people see it? Yes. is it to do with heating? Yesish, but its primary function is... cooling? lighting? This. filming? recording? amplifying? is it mechanical? electrical? No to both. | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 1215 Registered: 7-2010 |
Is it a petroleum lamp? A lantern? In summer, so you use it for luring insects away? For some ceremony? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2558 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it some kind of candle? a lantern? a torch? is it something you use when you are entertaining? BBQs? outdoor parties? indoor parties? illuminating the garden? the outside of the house? the pool? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1285 Registered: 1-2011 |
Potato: Is it a petroleum lamp? Yes, paraffin/kerosene lamp. A lantern? In summer, so you use it for luring insects away? No. For some ceremony? Sometimes, but only because I have it anyway. It's not the main purpose. Shez: is it some kind of candle? a lantern? a torch? See above. is it something you use when you are entertaining? BBQs? outdoor parties? indoor parties? No to all. illuminating the garden? the outside of the house? the pool? No to all. | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 131 Registered: 9-2011 |
Do you use the lamp in some kind of Christmas display, which will be up for a while so you're more willing to take it out of storage and use your own? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1289 Registered: 1-2011 |
Tardigradeparty: Do you use the lamp in some kind of Christmas display, which will be up for a while so you're more willing to take it out of storage and use your own? I wouldn't call it a Christmas display, but you're sort of OTRT here. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2567 Registered: 2-2011 |
do you use it to go carol singing? do you use it in a nativity play? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1291 Registered: 1-2011 |
Shez: do you use it to go carol singing? No. do you use it in a nativity play? No. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4697 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do you use it because its cozy light? which goes well with candles? Or fireplaces? In order not to use electricity? Because of the heat it gives off? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1293 Registered: 1-2011 |
GalFisk: Do you use it because its cozy light? which goes well with candles? Or fireplaces? In order not to use electricity? Because of the heat it gives off? No to all. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4702 Registered: 9-2009 |
could any other light source work just as well? Any other fire-based light source? Is the smell relevant? The fuel? the fact that it's old technology? Does anyone see you using it? Relevant? Relevant for how long you use it? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2568 Registered: 2-2011 |
do you use it because there is no electricity supply in a particular place? or because you're on the move? do you use it in some sort of re-enactment? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1298 Registered: 1-2011 |
GalFisk: could any other light source work just as well? No. Any other fire-based light source? Yesish... Is the smell relevant? No. The fuel? To some extent. the fact that it's old technology? No. Does anyone see you using it? Yes. Relevant? No. Relevant for how long you use it? YES! Shez: do you use it because there is no electricity supply in a particular place? Yes to the summer use. or because you're on the move? This too, but no electricity is the main reason. do you use it in some sort of re-enactment? No. | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami Post Number: 488 Registered: 2-2008 |
Are you putting it in your window all night? Or using it for something where it's more cost-efficient than electricity? Safer? More easily portable? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1311 Registered: 1-2011 |
Gourami: Are you putting it in your window all night? On my balcony, and several all days & all nights. Or using it for something where it's more cost-efficient than electricity? Safer? This. More easily portable? This is also relevant. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1896 Registered: 9-2009 |
In the summer, do you use it in speleology? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1316 Registered: 1-2011 |
Rbruma: In the summer, do you use it in speleology? No. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5218 Registered: 9-2010 |
spele-what? o.o | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1322 Registered: 1-2011 |
Speleology - exploring caves :-) | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5222 Registered: 9-2010 |
oh. I know that as 'spelunking'. Silly me for not connecting the two *facepalm* they start with the same letters and everything! | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1339 Registered: 1-2011 |
RECAP: Every Christmas, I use petroleum/kerosene lamp. It is lit constantly for a couple of days and nights and it stands on my balcony. I use it because it's safe. What I use it for may be called Christmas tradition, but it's neither a nativity play nor carol singing. I use kerosene lamp also sometimes in the summer, but then I use someone else's. I use it in summer, because there is no electricity in the places I visit. | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 551 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is it safe ( or safer ) for you? the environment? someone else? traveling past your balcony? inside your place? on your balcony? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1390 Registered: 1-2011 |
Emeraldink: Is it safe ( or safer ) for you? Yes. I think "Safer" is better. HINT: I could use candles as well, but it would be less safe and... the environment? someone else? Yes. traveling past your balcony? inside your place? This. on your balcony? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2709 Registered: 2-2011 |
at Christmas does it form part of your decorations? do you have a crib? in summer do you borrow someone else's because you are staying somewhere far from home? are you camping? trekking? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1402 Registered: 1-2011 |
Shez: at Christmas does it form part of your decorations? No. do you have a crib? No. in summer do you borrow I do not borrow. someone else's because you are staying somewhere far from home? Yes. are you camping? This. trekking? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 42 Registered: 1-2012 |
So you don't borrow, and it's a lamp...do you use it at wherever they keep it? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1404 Registered: 1-2011 |
Kyeannpepper: So you don't borrow, and it's a lamp...do you use it at wherever they keep it? I do not borrow it in the summer, I use it when I go camping - so no, I use it during camping and it is stored somewhere else. During Christmas I use my own lamp, I store it at my house and use it on my balcony. HINT: During Christmas, I also visit my relatives with my lamp. | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 555 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is the lamp part of a tradition? re-enactment? role playing? Is the lamp on while you travel? Is the summer use relevant? do we need to find out more about it? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1409 Registered: 1-2011 |
Emeraldink: Is the lamp part of a tradition? You may call it this way, it's quite modern, though. re-enactment? role playing? No to the rest. Is the lamp on while you travel? Yes. Is the summer use relevant? Not so much. do we need to find out more about it? No, you know that I use it as a source of light while camping, because it's safer than candles and no electricity is available at the place and that's all. | ||
| Blue (Blue)
New member Username: Blue Post Number: 33 Registered: 1-2012 |
its better than candles in the sense that: its doesn't extinguish while travel? because of glass cover around it? safer in the sense: something else catching fire? for children? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1414 Registered: 1-2011 |
Blue: its better than candles in the sense that: its doesn't extinguish while travel? YES! because of glass cover around it? and Yes. safer in the sense: something else catching fire? This. for children? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 564 Registered: 4-2007 |
Let's see... You use your lamp only during Christmas, only on your balcony, and you travel to your relatives with the lamp on... Does your balcony with the lamp on travel to your relatives? :-) | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1427 Registered: 1-2011 |
Emeraldink: Let's see... You use your lamp only during Christmas, only on your balcony, and you travel to your relatives with the lamp on... I keep the lamp only on my balcony while at home. When I travel to my relatives, I put the lamp on their balcony. The lamp is in their flat for only a short moment (besides bringing it in and out) - and this moment is what all this is for. Hope it makes sense. Does your balcony with the lamp on travel to your relatives? :-) No - see above :-) | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2782 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the lamp there for a particular ceremony? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1949 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is your using the lamp (and traveling with it to your relatives) part of a religious tradition? A holiday? (Like for example bringing home the candle lit from the church on Easter night, which here is widespread, I don't know about your place) | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1432 Registered: 1-2011 |
Shez: is the lamp there for a particular ceremony? Yesish. Rbruma: Is your using the lamp (and traveling with it to your relatives) part of a religious tradition? Kind of, DOYD. A holiday? (Like for example bringing home the candle lit from the church on Easter night, which here is widespread, I don't know about your place) Yesish, something of that kind - but not an old tradition, rather more modern symbol. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1951 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are you commemorating an event? A person? An action? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1433 Registered: 1-2011 |
Rbruma: Are you commemorating an event? A person? An action? Well, all three to be precise. And to avoid confusion - it IS all about Christmas. and HINT: Why is the lamp always on? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1958 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it meant to be a symbol of the star in Bethlehem? Some other symbol of religious importance? Or rather it is always on because of some mundane reason (availability of fuel, requirements for functioning, etc).? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1435 Registered: 1-2011 |
Rbruma: Is it meant to be a symbol of the star No. in Bethlehem? But yes to the rest. Some other symbol of religious importance? Yesish. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 976 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is it rather the other way round: you want the light to be on continuously, and therefore you are using a petroleum lamp? Does the lamp represent an everlasting light? Some regions in Germany have a tradition of putting a light in the window (or on the balcony) the whole night during Christmas time? (some say it came up in medieval time for practical reasons, to lit the streets, others say it's more symbolic; there are also a lot of different traditions, like the number of lights shows the number of kids in the family) .. is any of this relevant in your case? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1438 Registered: 1-2011 |
Sundowner: Is it rather the other way round: you want the light to be on continuously, and therefore you are using a petroleum lamp? Precisely so. It's important to keep the light on. Does the lamp represent an everlasting light? The symbol may have several interpretations and this is one of them. Some regions in Germany have a tradition of putting a light in the window (or on the balcony) the whole night during Christmas time? (some say it came up in medieval time for practical reasons, to lit the streets, others say it's more symbolic; there are also a lot of different traditions, like the number of lights shows the number of kids in the family) .. is any of this relevant in your case? No - the relevant tradition is not to have light on a window/balcony. It is the other way round - I got the light, I must keep it on - so I use the petroleum lamp and store it on a balcony. HINT: Focus on the light. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 992 Registered: 6-2003 |
Do you light the lamp in a church? then bring the light home? in order to take it to your relatives? who then light their own candle or lamp at your lamp? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1443 Registered: 1-2011 |
Sundowner: Do you light the lamp in a church? then bring the light home? in order to take it to your relatives? who then light their own candle or lamp at your lamp? More or less, yes to all. Usually I light the lamp from people who had lit it in the church. | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 569 Registered: 4-2007 |
Early Christians and the catacombs relevant? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1448 Registered: 1-2011 |
Emeraldink: Early Christians and the catacombs relevant? No. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1452 Registered: 1-2011 |
HINT: The light comes to the church from somewhere relevant. | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 39 Registered: 2-2012 |
Does the light come from another church? Is this a Polish tradition (I'm guess not, since you said it's modern)? Hmm, I'll have to ask my Polish Mother if she's heard of it. In your recap, you mentioned that you keep the light lit for a couple of days. Do you mean that literally (as in two days)? If a few days, Is there a specific span of days of the year during which the lights are kept lit? The lights are lit not for public display, correct? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1453 Registered: 1-2011 |
Beachbum: Does the light come from another church? Yes. Is this a Polish tradition No. (I'm guess not, since you said it's modern)? Hmm, I'll have to ask my Polish Mother if she's heard of it. In your recap, you mentioned that you keep the light lit for a couple of days. Do you mean that literally (as in two days)? No, the light usually comes on December 16th and I keep it on till Christmas. If a few days, Is there a specific span of days of the year during which the lights are kept lit? See above. The lights are lit not for public display, correct? Some are, some are not. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1459 Registered: 1-2011 |
As this puzzle is obviously dying, here comes the ******** SPOILER ******************* As you may know from my other puzzle, I am a scout leader. There is a modern scout tradition (dating probably from 90s of 20th century) that in December scouts from Austria bring the flame from the Nativity Cave in Bethlehem (Bethlehem Light of Peace) to Europe. Then austrian scouts distribute the light to scouts from other countries, that's how it comes to my country. We then distribute the light to churches, schools, orphanages, private enterprises etc. We also pass the light to scouts from countries east of Poland. Of course, we also take the light to our homes - to light from it the candles on Christmas Eve dinner. Obviously, the light must be lit during all these days. So the safest way to keep it burning at home is a petroleum lamp on the balcony. At summer, I use the petroleum lamp to get light while filling in all the forms and documents I must fill everyday during camp - I can do it only at night and usually there is no electricity in our camping places. And handwriting doesn't go well together with torches. Then I use the lamps which belong to my scout unit - they are transported together with all our camping stuff and I don't need to spent place in my luggage for my own lamp. |
