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| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8261 Registered: 8-2001 |
When Valentia complained to her therapist about her parents, he earnestly rephrased her complaint, saying, "You feel that your parents always favored your sister over you." This might not sound like much of a family, but her reply showed her family to be very enviable. How come? (In case this puzzle looks familiar, I posted it once before, but it vanished before getting solved when the forum pager was overhauled. So let's try again!!} | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2960 Registered: 7-2009 |
Did her reply confirm the doctor's statement? Contradict it? Expand on it? Clarify it? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8262 Registered: 8-2001 |
7-2009 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 - 7:02 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Did her reply confirm the doctor's statement? yes Contradict it? noExpand on it? yesClarify it? no | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1553 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did Valentia cite some reasons why she felt her parents favored her sister? I.e. Gave her sister a corvette and only gave her a horse? Always clapped louder for her sister during Karaoke night? Let her sister see PG-13 movies and only let her see the PG ones? Did the family seem enviable for their... wealth? possessions? values? time allocation? care? closeness? family activities? hobbies? pets? responsiveness? responsibility? nutrition? wholesome media selections? medical skills? other? | ||
| Solo1 (Solo1)
New member Username: Solo1 Post Number: 159 Registered: 5-2012 |
About the therapist: real therapist? HAM? HAF? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8265 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1553 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 12:48 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did Valentia cite some reasons why she felt her parents favored her sister? no I.e. Gave her sister a corvette and only gave her a horse? Always clapped louder for her sister during Karaoke night? Let her sister see PG-13 movies and only let her see the PG ones? reason is irrel Did the family seem enviable for their... wealth? no possessions? no values? no time allocation? no care? no closeness? no family activities? no hobbies? no pets? no responsiveness? no responsibility? no nutrition? no wholesome media selections? no, even aside from the fact that I would consider a family with "wholesome media selections" more pitiable than enviable -- "wholesome media" sounds pretty dreary medical skills? no other? yes--find out what!! Solo1 (Solo1) New member Username: Solo1 Post Number: 159 Registered: 5-2012 Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 4:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) About the therapist: real therapist? yes HAM? possiblyHAF? ditto | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1613 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did Valentia's reply suggest that she didn't mind her parents favouring her sister? That it had benefited Valentia in some way? That her sister deserved to be favoured? That her parents had a good reason for acting how they did? That they did not actually favour her sister? That even if they did, they still treated Valentia so well that it didn't matter? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8271 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1613 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 8:17 pm: Did Valentia's reply suggest that she didn't mind her parents favouring her sister? noThat it had benefited Valentia in some way? noThat her sister deserved to be favoured? noThat her parents had a good reason for acting how they did? noThat they did not actually favour her sister? noThat even if they did, they still treated Valentia so well that it didn't matter? no | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 1098 Registered: 6-2003 |
Was Valentia actually complaining that her parents favored her sister over her? Did she say something else? Did the therapist misunderstand what she said? Would Valentia's sister have said the same about Valentia? Is the sister older? Relevant how many sisters Valentia has? Is the sister still alive? Would the puzzle also work with a brother instead of a sister? Did Valentia in any way benefit from her parents favoring her sister over her? or did she at least think so? Is there one aspect of live where the parents particularly favored Valentia's sister? if so: sports? school? education? hobbies? choice of occupation? dating? marriage? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8275 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sundowner (Sundowner) New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 1098 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Monday, August 06, 2012 - 8:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was Valentia actually complaining that her parents favored her sister over her? yesDid she say something else? The only other relevant thing she said was in reply to the therapist's rephrasing the complaint (as indicated in the puzzle statement). Did the therapist misunderstand what she said? no Would Valentia's sister have said the same about Valentia? irrel Is the sister older? irrel Relevant how many sisters Valentia has? no Is the sister still alive? yes & that's important Would the puzzle also work with a brother instead of a sister? yes Did Valentia in any way benefit from her parents favoring her sister over her? noor did she at least think so? no Is there one aspect of live where the parents particularly favored Valentia's sister? irrel if so: sports? school? education? hobbies? choice of occupation? dating? marriage? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2966 Registered: 7-2009 |
Does the favoritism play any role in Valentia's parents' will? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8281 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2966 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Monday, August 06, 2012 - 8:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does the favoritism play any role in Valentia's parents' will? irrel | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1614 Registered: 4-2007 |
Do the parents still favour the sister? Did they stop at a certain point? Was Valentia's comment along the lines of "they still do"? "They always will"? Are the parents still alive? Relevant? Is how the sister felt about being favoured relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8284 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1614 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2012 - 6:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Do the parents still favour the sister? yes Did they stop at a certain point? no Was Valentia's comment along the lines of "they still do"?That's it, precisely!!So now all you have to do is figure out why this makes them an envisble family!! "They always will"? no Are the parents still alive? yes Relevant? yesIs how the sister felt about being favoured relevant? no | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2971 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is Valentia old? Are they enviable because while she and her sister are old, and their parents are very old, all are still fortunate to be living and experiencing each others' company? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8287 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2971 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2012 - 7:10 pm: Is Valentia old? yesAre they enviable because while she and her sister are old, and their parents are very old, all are still fortunate to be living and experiencing each others' company? And even if she's not enjoying their company, she sure has a good heredity!! *********** SPOILER ************ When Venetia's therapist said earnestly, "You feel that your parents have always favored your sister," she replied, "They still do." Venetia is 84. An octogenarian whose parents are doing anything other than pushing up daisies obviously has a very enviable family. This puzzle was inspired (?) by an episode on The Bob Newhart Show. |
