{KayleeTonksLupin} Out of the frying ... Log Out | Topics | Search
Moderators | Register | Edit Profile

Lateral Puzzles » Solved Lateral Thinking Puzzles » Solved Puzzles - February 2013 » {KayleeTonksLupin} Out of the frying pan... « Previous Next »

Author Message
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5622
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 9:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They were the luckiest people in the world. But just after telling their secret, their luck ran out.
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 980
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 11:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they invent something? Did someone else?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5623
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 11:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"They" did not invent something (so far as I know, anyway). Many other people have invented things, but invention is irrelevant.
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 983
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 12:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they lucky because they beat the odds somehow? Like in a contest or game? Before telling their secret, are they happy? healthy? rich? romantically fortunate? successful in some endeavor?

Is this a true story?
All "they"s and "their"s refer to the same people?
All adults? all male? all female? From the same family? Any fictional characters?
Amount of lucky people: Less than 5? 5 to 10? 10 to 50? 50 to 100? 100 to 1000? More than one thousand?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5624
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 12:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they lucky because they beat the odds somehow? Yes Like in a contest or game? But no Before telling their secret, are they happy? healthy? rich? Yes, judging from the little I saw of them romantically fortunate? DOYD of 'romantically fortunate' successful in some endeavor? DOYD of 'some endeavor'

Is this a true story? Argh...I can't remember, but I got it from another source, I didn't make it up. It's probably fiction.
All "they"s and "their"s refer to the same people?Yes
All adults? Yes all male? all female? The lucky people are a married couple. They have two friends. From the same family? Any fictional characters? Only if the story is fiction
Amount of lucky people: Less than 5?this 5 to 10? 10 to 50? 50 to 100? 100 to 1000? More than one thousand? Although there were a number of other people who *were* lucky (and unlucky) in the incident that day whose names and genders do not matter, that probably number in the hundreds.
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 984
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 12:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has the incident occurred since 2000? Did it occur in the 1900s? 1800s? 1700s? 1600s? 1500s or before?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5625
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 12:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has the incident occurred since 2000? Did it occur in the 1900s?this one. There are two incidents, the one that proved them lucky, and the one which ended their luck, both in the first half of the 20th century. 1800s? 1700s? 1600s? 1500s or before?
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 985
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 1:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the incidents occur in Europe? In the United States?

Were either of the incidents wars? stockmarket-related? crime-related? political in nature? marriage? natural disasters? births? deaths? related to religion? Were either of the incidents in the news? If so, locally? regionally? nationally? internationally?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5626
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 1:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the incidents occur in Europe? The first one In the United States? The second one

Were either of the incidents wars? not precisely, but war was heavily involved in the first incident stockmarket-related? no crime-related? noish political in nature? noish marriage? the story was related to marriage natural disasters? no births? deaths? no to births, yes to deaths related to religion? no Were either of the incidents in the news? I am sure they both made world news If so, locally? regionally? nationally? internationally? this
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 988
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 1:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The marriage= the marriage of the lucky couple?
If so, were they married before the first incident? After?
Did the second incident occur within days of the first? Or was it weeks later? months later? years later? More than 10 years later?

Did "they" escape death? Did either one of them escape death? Did the unlucky ones die? Did they die when their luck ran out? Is the Holocaust relevant?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5627
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 1:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The marriage= the marriage of the lucky couple? yes
If so, were they married before the first incident? just before After?
Did the second incident occur within days of the first? Or was it weeks later? months later? years later? More than 10 years later? this one

Did "they" escape death? The first time Did either one of them escape death? see previous Did the unlucky ones die? yes Did they die when their luck ran out? yes Is the Holocaust relevant? no, wrong war
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 989
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 2:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the first incident make world news? The second?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5628
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 2:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the first incident make world news? The second?
both were world famous. The first incident was definitely an "international incident" and act of war. The second one was probably more along the lines of an accident, albeit a horrific one.
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 990
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 2:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it an assassination? An attack? The Zimmerman note?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5629
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 2:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it an assassination? No, I don't think so An attack? Yes The Zimmerman note? the Zimmerman telegram was about two years after this attack, so no
Shez (Shez)
New member
Username: Shez

Post Number: 3276
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 10:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

WW1 relevant? refugees?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5630
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

WW1 relevant? to the first incident (the attack), very much so refugees? hmm, not that I know of
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 991
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 10:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the attack occur on land? At sea?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5639
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 - 11:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the attack occur on land? No At sea? This.
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 993
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 12:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

U-boats relevant? The sinking of the Lusitania?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5640
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 12:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

U-boats relevant? yes The sinking of the Lusitania? and yes =) *givz kitteh teh cheezburgur* =)
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 995
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 1:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the couple somehow survive the sinking of the Lusitania? Were they on board? If no, had they intended to be on board but were not?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5642
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 1:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the couple somehow survive the sinking of the Lusitania? yesish, because... Were they on board? no! If no, had they intended to be on board but were not? YES!! =)
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 998
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 2:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they get off after boarding? Never board in the first place? Since they married just before, was this to be their honeymoon?

Did they decide to go somewhere else? Leave earlier than intended? Leave later than intended? Cancel altogether? Because of the war?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5645
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2012 - 2:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they get off after boarding? noNever board in the first place? yes Since they married just before, was this to be their honeymoon? yes

Did they decide to go somewhere else? Leave earlier than intended? Leave later than intended? Cancel altogether? Because of the war? I don't know if they decided to go somewhere else, but it wasn't because of the war. Something very strange happened that caused them to miss the ship...
Shez (Shez)
New member
Username: Shez

Post Number: 3279
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2012 - 5:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was their lucky escape published in newspapers?

were they identified by someone else? had they done something wrong?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5646
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 6:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was their lucky escape published in newspapers? no, this was a fictional tale, but FSEI

were they identified by someone else? had they done something wrong? no and no, or else irrelevant because it was never mentioned.

hello everyone...one of my best friends got married this weekend, I was in Washington at her wedding. Back home and extremely tired...going to sleep for a while and will be back so feel free to ask questions or request a recat...er, recap...when I am more awake >^.^<
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 1002
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 1:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they miss the ship because of some misfortune? Or because something better came along?

Were they sad when they first missed the ship? Or happy? Or some other emotion altogether?

Were they involved in the war in any way?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5650
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 6:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they miss the ship because of some misfortune?yes Or because something better came along?

Were they sad when they first missed the ship? yes Or happy? Or some other emotion altogether? I think a bit surprised, scared and confused too

Were they involved in the war in any way? I do not think so
Redwine (Redwine)
New member
Username: Redwine

Post Number: 1611
Registered: 1-2011
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 11:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they start their journey to the Lusitania's boarding point? Did they have to give up their journey plans at all? Did any of them get ill? Did someone related to them die?
Shez (Shez)
New member
Username: Shez

Post Number: 3287
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

were they not allowed to board the ship?

were they too sick to go on board?

did they arrive late at the boarding point? were they drunk? did they get involved in a fight?

were they involved in an accident?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5651
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 4:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they start their journey to the Lusitania's boarding point? not after they woke up that morning Did they have to give up their journey plans at all? yes Did any of them get ill? Did someone related to them die? no to the last two

were they not allowed to board the ship? something prevented them from getting to the ship

were they too sick to go on board? no, they weren't sick

did they arrive late at the boarding point? yes, when the problem was fixed they got there just as it was sailing away were they drunk? did they get involved in a fight? no and no

were they involved in an accident? DOYD of 'accident'...
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5652
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 4:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BLOOPER to Redwine's first q: They DID get to the ship's boarding point, but only AFTER the problem that caused their delay was fixed, and they missed the ship
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 1012
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 6:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the problem they encountered something an ordinary traveler might encounter?
Such as:
-problems with transportation?
-weather?
-waking up late?
-getting robbed?
-being the victims of some other crime?
-getting lost?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5655
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 6:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the problem they encountered something an ordinary traveler might encounter?
Such as:
-problems with transportation?
-weather?
-waking up late?
-getting robbed?
-being the victims of some other crime?
-getting lost?

No, the problem was stranger than any of these. It involved something they were both wearing.
Shez (Shez)
New member
Username: Shez

Post Number: 3294
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Friday, August 24, 2012 - 2:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are they HAM?

was the clothing outerwear? hats? shoes? uniforms? trousers? shirts?

not clothing at all?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5656
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Friday, August 24, 2012 - 4:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are they HAM? the married couple? this took place way before same-sex marriage was legalized anywhere, I'm thinking. One H/A/M, one H/A/F

was the clothing outerwear? no to all hats? shoes? uniforms? trousers? shirts?

not clothing at all? I would term it jewelry, not clothing
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 1015
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 6:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Given what we know so far of this story, was the problem concerning their wedding rings? Did they lose them?

Also, recap please?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5659
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 6:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Given what we know so far of this story, was the problem concerning their wedding rings? Did they lose them? It concerned their wedding rings, yes...GOOD question! They did not lose them, no...in fact judging by the situation I would call that impossible...

Also, recap please? A couple who had been married for about 20 years (a little more than that, I think) were dining with friends of theirs, taking a trip together. The married couple (I think the friends were also a married couple, but irrelevant - let's just call them the married couple and the friends - the married couple were extremely lucky, for a mishap that involved their wedding rings caused them to miss their honeymoon cruise on the Lusitania. As we all (?) know, the Lusitania sank after being fired on in WW1 by U-boats. The lucky, happy couple missed the boat and so their lives were spared. However, shortly after divulging their 20(ish) year old secret to their friends, ANOTHER disaster occurred, an accident in which they and many others forfeited their lives.

This story is a fabrication of someone else's making (FSEI), from a TV show, although both disasters were very real events.
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 1017
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 8:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the friends miss the Lusitania cruise as well? Did they die in the second disaster? Would the couple have died had they not disclosed their secret?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5661
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 10:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the friends miss the Lusitania cruise as well? I am not sure they even knew the lucky couple had intended to be on it. For all I know, they weren't even friends yet at that point. Did they die in the second disaster? Presumably, though this is not certain. I expect at least one of them survived to tell the story (at least, if we take it in the context of a true story, though it was in fact fiction) Would the couple have died had they not disclosed their secret? Who knows? There were some survivors of the disaster, though the source strongly implied these two were not among them. Perhaps the universe was having a poorly thought out joke on them. *haz a sad* Anyway, the fact that they told their secret had no bearing on the disaster happening.
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 1019
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 10:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You mention a joke- was it funny in some way? Perhaps because the first disaster was worse than the first? Similar to the first? Related to war?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5664
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You mention a joke- was it funny in some way? I would say there is an element of irony to the fact that they escaped the first disaster only to die in the second... Perhaps because the first disaster was worse than the first? Similar to the first? Related to war? Hmm, well the first disaster was a deliberate attack on a ship, resulting in the deaths of many innocent people. The second was an accident (so far as anyone knows) on a vessel of some kind as yet undiscovered by the puzzlers. It was not related to war (again, so far as anyone can prove, though I'm sure conspiracy theorists could go crazy on this)
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 1033
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 - 1:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A vessel
-on land?
-on sea?
-in the air?
-in space?

I assume the couple was on the vessel during the accident? Were the friends? Did the accident destroy the vessel? Or was it something like spilled coffee? That type of accident?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5684
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 - 2:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A vessel
-on land?
-on sea?
-in the air? this one
-in space?

I assume the couple was on the vessel during the accident? never assume if you can help it on the LTPF, but in this case you would be correct.Were the friends? yesDid the accident destroy the vessel? yesOr was it something like spilled coffee? That type of accident? so no
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 1035
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 - 3:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Airplane?
Helicopter?
Hot air balloon? (oh wait- wrong puzzle :P )
Glider of some kind?

Is any of this close?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5687
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 - 3:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Airplane?
Helicopter?
Hot air balloon? (oh wait- wrong puzzle :P It may be the wrong puzzle, but this is surprisingly close!! Wrong, as it happens, but close. No to rest.)
Glider of some kind?

Is any of this close?
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 1036
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 - 3:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

An airship of some kind? A blimp? zeppelin? dirigible? (Not sure what the differences are)
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5689
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 - 4:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

An airship of some kind? yes A blimp? zeppelin? dirigible? (Not sure what the differences are) hrm...it was manufactured by the Zeppelin Company, so that makes it a zeppelin, I imagine.
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 1040
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 - 4:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hindenburg disaster?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5695
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 - 4:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hindenburg disaster?
YES!!! =D Veree gud Ciaokitteh!

So the married couple and their friends were on the Hindenburg when the married couple's luck ran out, and the couple and perhaps one or both friends died (Or neither). Bearing in mind this is a fictional story, where did I find out about it?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5718
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 5:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Higgledy piggeldy,
Kaylee Tonks-Lupin is
Really quite puzzled at
This puzzle's demise;

Lateral minds here have
Abandoned their efforts
Except for Ciaobella, who
Figured out the surprise.
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5719
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm always bad at making the one-word line in double dactyls...I hereby submit that this should be a variation on the proper double dactyl. But anyway...basically, should I $poyle? No one seems to care anymore...
Balin (Balin)
New member
Username: Balin

Post Number: 17428
Registered: 4-2010
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2012 - 1:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lateral shmateral,
Balin (the speaker) has
Lurked for a while, but
Brain tends to freeze:
Puzz-master, will you now
Nonperfunctorily
Write out a recap, if
Ever you please?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5722
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2012 - 1:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Puzzelly wuzzelly
Balin (the kitteh) has
a RECAP requested
(*unfreezez matt'z brayn*)
With recat upcoming, Matt
Indubitably
Shall (I hope) have no more
Cause to refrain.


Recap: In the early 20th century, a newlywed couple encountered a problem with their wedding rings which caused them to miss their honeymoon cruise on the Lusitania, days before it was gunned down by German U-boats.

Some 20 years later, or thereabouts, they finally told this story to their best friends as the four of them undertook another voyage, this time on an airship. Their friends hailed them as the luckiest people in the world - minutes before their luck ran out. For this was the Hindenburg, and as we (all?) know, its voyage was doomed.

All that remains is where I heard this story. The two disasters are real, but the story itself is said to be fiction, though not made up by me...
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5723
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2012 - 1:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, and what *exactly* was the wedding ring issue?
Balin (Balin)
New member
Username: Balin

Post Number: 17430
Registered: 4-2010
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2012 - 3:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did their wedding rings not fit? Were the rings being worn at the time? Were the rings lost?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5731
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2012 - 4:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did their wedding rings not fit? DOYD of 'not fit'... Were the rings being worn at the time? Yes Were the rings lost? No
Balin (Balin)
New member
Username: Balin

Post Number: 17433
Registered: 4-2010
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2012 - 11:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they fit too tightly? Were they unable to be removed?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5748
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2012 - 11:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they fit too tightly? No, but... Were they unable to be removed? Yes!
Origamimaster (Origamimaster)
New member
Username: Origamimaster

Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2012
Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 11:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they want a divorce? Were they mad at each other?
Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member
Username: Liquizt

Post Number: 724
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 3:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did something unusual occur with the rings?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5772
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 3:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry! I've been away too long...

Did they want a divorce? Were they mad at each other?
No to both.

Did something unusual occur with the rings? YES!
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member
Username: Ciaobella

Post Number: 1105
Registered: 8-2011
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 4:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would it help to determine:
-where they were when the unusual event occurred?
-if anyone else was involved?
-when the unusual event occurred?
-how it occurred?
-how it was resolved, if it was resolved?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5778
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 4:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would it help to determine:
-where they were when the unusual event occurred? Yes-ish
-if anyone else was involved? It would
-when the unusual event occurred? This would also be helpful
-how it occurred? this would not, for it could only be considered an (for lack of a better term) "Act of God"
-how it was resolved, if it was resolved? yes
Vene (Vene)
New member
Username: Vene

Post Number: 106
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 11:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the wedding ring event something that required immediate taking care of?
To resolve the situation did they need a jeweller? A medic?
Did the rings shrink? Did their fingers thicken?

Did they intentionally keep this a secret? Does it involve anything embarrassing about them?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5798
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 2:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the wedding ring event something that required immediate taking care of? Yes
To resolve the situation did they need a jeweller? A medic? Jeweller
Did the rings shrink? Did their fingers thicken? Possibly either, but that's not the only issue the rings had...

Did they intentionally keep this a secret? if you mean the ring issue, yes. Were you inquiring about anything else? Does it involve anything embarrassing about them? The ring issue, possibly, DYOD. Other than that, no.
Vene (Vene)
New member
Username: Vene

Post Number: 128
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Monday, December 24, 2012 - 3:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the rings corrode? Did the ring incident reveal something about the material the rings were made of? Is the material relevant?

Did the rings have to be cut? Could they be salvaged? Maybe just parts of them? Engravings relevant?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5799
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 5:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the rings corrode? \b(You mean rust? No, I don't believe so) Did the ring incident reveal something about the material the rings were made of? Is the material relevant? No and no

Did the rings have to be cut? Yes Could they be salvaged? Yes Maybe just parts of them? They were still wearable Engravings relevant? I don't believe so
Shez (Shez)
New member
Username: Shez

Post Number: 3663
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

had the rings got caught on something?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5801
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 3:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

had the rings got caught on something?
DOYD of 'get caught on', and the 'something' needs defining...
Shez (Shez)
New member
Username: Shez

Post Number: 3681
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 4:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

something metallic? each other?
Shez (Shez)
New member
Username: Shez

Post Number: 3682
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 4:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

were they Russian wedding rings - the kind made up of 3 separate bands?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5802
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 3:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

something metallic? yes! each other? {YES!!}

were they Russian wedding rings - the kind made up of 3 separate bands? they appeared to be one single band each
Shez (Shez)
New member
Username: Shez

Post Number: 3726
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 2:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey, Kaylee - just you and me then?

so their wedding rings became inextricably caught up and they had to be separated by a jeweller, which meant that they missed being drowned on the Lusitania?

and 20 years later - were they involved in the Hindenburg disaster?
Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member
Username: Fionakelleghan

Post Number: 450
Registered: 7-2011
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 5:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Kaylee, I've been reading here for a few days before I dared to jump back in - and I was certain that you were talking about the most recent novel by Connie Willis!
But you've given us a great story. I mean, it's done, right?

(Kayleetonks, I haven't appeared here in a year, but as a reminder, I wrote a puzzle about a special trait which domestic cats have that other animals don't. It was posted as "Pets: Threat or Menace?" My second one started a conversation about Don Sobol, author of "Encyc. Brown.") I'm so glad to see you're still here, honey! Happy New Year to all - Fiona)
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5803
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 5:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey, Kaylee - just you and me then? looks like it but Fiona kitteh has popped in below!

so their wedding rings became inextricably caught up and they had to be separated by a jeweller, which meant that they missed being drowned on the Lusitania? well "fused" is the word I wanted, but inextricably caught up is good enough =D and yes!!

and 20 years later - were they involved in the Hindenburg disaster? yes yes yes!!!! almost there, then...now all you need is where I got the story.

Fiona:

Kaylee, I've been reading here for a few days before I dared to jump back in - and I was certain that you were talking about the most recent novel by Connie Willis! Nope! It's a TV show's episode, as I said earlier =) But tell me more about this novel, sounds intriguing!
But you've given us a great story. I mean, it's done, right? all you need to do now is tell me the TV show...and episode

(Kayleetonks, I haven't appeared here in a year, but as a reminder, I wrote a puzzle about a special trait which domestic cats have that other animals don't. It was posted as "Pets: Threat or Menace?" My second one started a conversation about Don Sobol, author of "Encyc. Brown.") I'm so glad to see you're still here, honey! Happy New Year to all - Fiona) happiest of new years Fiona kitteh, I have missed you greatly!!! *hugz*
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member
Username: Galfisk

Post Number: 5172
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 10:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the TV show: a show about disasters? History? War? A drama? Soap opera? Is it about WWII? Are there Nazis in it?
Shez (Shez)
New member
Username: Shez

Post Number: 3779
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 7:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was it a saga? like the North and the South or the Forsyte Saga?

the Simpsons?

a ghost story?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5804
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 3:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the TV show: a show about disasters? History? War? I believe it's had bits of all these mentioned, though it's not exactly 'about' any of them. A drama? It certainly has a dramatic theme Soap opera? NoIs it about WWII? At least one of the stories has mentioned it Are there Nazis in it? I think there may have been in one or two stories
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member
Username: Galfisk

Post Number: 5229
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 3:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it set in a certain time period? Is time travel involved? Do the episodes tell a continuous story? Linked stories? Independent stories? Is it live action? Cartoon? 3D-animated?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5806
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2013 - 6:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it set in a certain time period? No Is time travel involved? I'm not sure if it was ever brought up, but I do not think so Do the episodes tell a continuous story? no Linked stories? each episode has multiple stories that share a common element within that episode Independent stories? each episode is separate from the other episodes Is it live action? this Cartoon? 3D-animated?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member
Username: Galfisk

Post Number: 5290
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 1:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it sci-fi? Does it have elements of a documentary? Do we need to find the common element? The name of the TV show? The episode? (I don't watch a lot of TV shows)
Something else?
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5853
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 - 6:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it sci-fi? Not exactly - it has elements of the supernatural on occasion, but I don't know if sci-fi is the right word. But close.Does it have elements of a documentary? Hmm, sort of, although I don't think that's exactly what it is either Do we need to find the common element? That might help you find...The name of the TV show? YesThe episode? Yes(I don't watch a lot of TV shows)Nor I, but Ciaobella pointed this one out to me on YouTube. Googlepedia is your friend.
Something else? I think the name of the show and its episode will just about do it
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member
Username: Kayleetonkslupin

Post Number: 5883
Registered: 9-2010
Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - 4:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok - the rest is just details, and I shouldn't be picky. Thanks to Noel and Peter for input in the Chatroom. I've decided to spoyle this one. =)

The show is called "Beyond Belief" and it's a TV show that I apparently missed when it was actually on TV - I've found episodes on YouTube. It consists of a host who introduces several short stories - about three or four - per episode of odd happenings, usually with an aura of the supernatural about them. Some of them are "true" (but with significant details edited to protect privacy), others are made up by the show's writers, or else drawn from urban legends, and at the end of the episode, the host will tell you which is which.

In one episode, in which the uniting concept, I believe, was strange modes of transportation (it's been so long since I've seen it now, perhaps Ciaobella can chime in), the section opened with a couple and their two friends on some sort of voyage, telling the story of how they had missed the Lusitania on their honeymoon, which saved their lives. They had been keeping the secret of their good luck - their wedding rings had randomly fused together, so they couldn't get them off or get out of bed and so were too late to catch the ship - for several years, fearing no one would believe them.

Finally, a couple decades later as they celebrated with their friends, they were persuaded to tell their story, and as they finished up they went to the window of the ship...the *window* of the *ship?* Suddenly, watching that, a suspicion formed in my mind, when realisation slammed into my head that it was not a *ship* ship, but an *airship*.

An airship drifting over New Jersey...

Then they cut to what seems to be real, historical footage of the incident from the ground.

Yes, they were lucky indeed to miss the Lusitania. But it seems their luck ran out, when the couple went on the Hindenburg.

As I recall, this story was "beyond belief" - i.e. false. But both fateful voyages DID happen, so who knows...O.o

Thanks everyone for playing, and sorry for being so...I don't know, stubborn about details?

Really, look for Beyond Belief, I think you guys might like it. Prime puzzle material!

Kaylee
Shez (Shez)
New member
Username: Shez

Post Number: 3908
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2013 - 12:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

excellent! I made the mistake of googling it and it was the first thing to come up so I dropped out.

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Username: Posting Information:
This is a private posting area. Only registered users and moderators may post messages here.
Password:
Options: Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action: