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Professor Kedwinkle got fired because he gave George the grade George deserved, and no one who decided to fire Professor K. wanted him to give George a grade George didn't deserve. How come?
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Professor Kedwinkle - H/A/M?
George - H/A/M? Kedwinkle's student?

Does this happen at a university? other type of school?
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Professor Kedwinkle - H/A/M?
George - H/A/M? yes to all Kedwinkle's student?H? yesA? possiblyM? irrel, but since I used the name George. . . .

Does this happen at a university?possibly other type of school? ditto
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Is it relevant what Kedwinkle teaches?

Does George deserve the grade because of his academic achievement? Is it a failing grade? Does the grade affect George's school/academic career? If so, positively? negatively?

Relevant how many people decided to fire Kedwinkle?
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Is it relevant what Kedwinkle teaches? no

Does George deserve the grade because of his academic achievement? yesIs it a failing grade? no Does the grade affect George's school/academic career? possibly If so, positively?possibly negatively? no

Relevant how many people decided to fire Kedwinkle? no
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Did Professor K give George an A? B? C? D? (Or corresponding number.)

Did any of the rest of the Faculty want to give George a different grade?

Did somebody not a member of the Faculty want to give George a different grade?

Did Professor K give everybody else in the class the same grade? Work appropriate grades?
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Did Professor K give George an A? B? C? D? (Or corresponding number.) It was probably an A or a B.

Did any of the rest of the Faculty want to give George a different grade? no

Did somebody not a member of the Faculty want to give George a different grade? no

Did Professor K give everybody else in the class the same grade? no Work appropriate grades?yes
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Was Professor Kedwinkle fired for a fair reason (if that's subjective, was the reason for his firing a valid reason for firing someone in most educational establishments?) Was any kind of misunderstanding involved?

Was he fired because of how he behaved towards students? Because of his grading practices? Were the people responsible for firing him aware that the grade George got was the one he deserved? Did George want Professor K fired?

Had Professor K given George any other relevant grades in the past? Given any relevant grades to other students? Had he ever given an unfair grade to anyone? Did he do anything illegal? Is it relevant what kind of work George did that received the grade?

Should Professor K not have been grading George at all? Was George supposed to be studying there?
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Was Professor Kedwinkle fired for a fair reason (if that's subjective, was the reason for his firing a valid reason for firing someone in most educational establishments?) yes } Was any kind of misunderstanding involved? yes

Was he fired because of how he behaved towards students? yesBecause of his grading practices? yesWere the people responsible for firing him aware that the grade George got was the one he deserved? no Did George want Professor K fired? irrel

Had Professor K given George any other relevant grades in the past? yes. GOOOOOD QUESTION!!Given any relevant grades to other students? no Had he ever given an unfair grade to anyone? irrelDid he do anything illegal? noIs it relevant what kind of work George did that received the grade? yesish

Should Professor K not have been grading George at all? yope Was George supposed to be studying there? yes
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Had George previously received bad grades? Did the faculty (or whoever did the firing) thin that Professor K gave George too high a grade? Did they think that George had bribed him or in some other way incited him to give him an unfairly high grade? Did they think Professor K was favouring George? Are they related?
Had George greatly improved his work? Was the work he received the grade for actually his? Had he plagiarised?
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Had George previously received bad grades? yesishDid the faculty (or whoever did the firing) thin that Professor K gave George too high a grade? yes Did they think that George had bribed him or in some other way incited him to give him an unfairly high grade? yes Did they think Professor K was favouring George? yes Are they related? no
Had George greatly improved his work? noWas the work he received the grade for actually his? yes Had he plagiarised? no
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Had George previously been averaging lower than an A/B? So that this grade looked suspiciously high? If so, were his previous grades fairly awarded? Were they given by Professor K? Another teacher?

Was the high grade given for a type of work that George was particularly good at? Written vs practical work relevant? Group work vs individual work? Exams vs coursework?

Did George receive the grade for an exam? Essay? Written work? Something he made? Did he receive it for a specific piece of work? Was it his overall grade for the subject that Professor K taught? Was it for something more general, like overall commitment?
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Had George previously been averaging lower than an A/B? yope So that this grade looked suspiciously high? yes If so, were his previous grades fairly awarded? yope Were they given by Professor K? yesAnother teacher? irrel

Was the high grade given for a type of work that George was particularly good at? no Written vs practical work relevant?a written exam is involved Group work vs individual work? indivExams vs coursework? both

Did George receive the grade for an exam? yesEssay? noWritten work? see previous answersSomething he made? no Did he receive it for a specific piece of work? yes\ Was it his overall grade for the subject that Professor K taught? yes Was it for something more general, like overall commitment? EEEK!! I hope no place but a religious seminary presumes to grade students on commitment!! I wouldn't dream of taking "commitment" into account when grading a student -- even if I had a valid way of determining his commitment.
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Had George cheated in the past? Had someone else's work been marked as his own? Had he swapped papers with someone else? Been mistaken for someone else?

Did George get a higher grade in the exam than he had in coursework for the same subject? Than he had for that subject in previous years? Than he had got in other subjects?

Did Professor K in fact act dishonestly? Was he bribed by George?
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Also, my school gave two grades for each subject, attainment and commitment. The commitment grades didn't really count for anything but were supposed to show when students worked really hard at something even if they still didn't get great marks. No idea how accurate they were though, or what exactly they were based on
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Had George cheated in the past? noHad someone else's work been marked as his own?no Had he swapped papers with someone else? noBeen mistaken for someone else? no

Did George get a higher grade in the exam than he had in coursework for the same subject? noThan he had for that subject in previous years? irrelThan he had got in other subjects? irrel

Did Professor K in fact act dishonestly? no Was he bribed by George? noish
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Also, my school gave two grades for each subject, attainment and commitment. The commitment grades didn't really count for anything but were supposed to show when students worked really hard at something even if they still didn't get great marks. No idea how accurate they were though, or what exactly they were based on I think that's intrusive & patonizing. Who wants to be praised for effort if he has little to show for that effort? It sounds a lot like saying, "You mean well, but you haven't got the stuff."
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I have to chime in here. It's very important for children to be praised for the effort they show even if they don't get good results. Teachers shouldn't discourage them right away.
At high school or college, however, commitment or effort shouldn't be graded.


Should we find out more about George as a person?

Did he join the class at a later time? Did he take the same class twice? The same exam? Did he take a make-up exam?
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Is this FYOI? or FSEI?
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Are the grades of other students in the class relevant? i.e. Is grading on a curve part of the issue?

The written exam... true/false? multiple choice? Fill in the blank? Short essay? Something else with easily subjective grading?
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I have to chime in here. It's very important for children to be praised for the effort they show even if they don't get good results. Teachers shouldn't discourage them right away I think it's intrusive & patronizing to grade for effort, as I said, but that doesn't mean teachers should discourage children who do poor work. Just grade them on outcome (if you have to grade them at all) & help poor performers improve.
At high school or college, however, commitment or effort shouldn't be graded.

Should we find out more about George as a person?yesish

Did he join the class at a later time? no Did he take the same class twice? noThe same exam? no Did he take a make-up exam? no
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Is this FYOI? or FSEI?the latter (adapted from a novel)
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Are the grades of other students in the class relevant? no i.e. Is grading on a curve part of the issue? no

The written exam... true/false? possiblymultiple choice? ditto Fill in the blank? dittoShort essay?less likely Something else with easily subjective grading? no
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Grade children on effort, yes, but I think the grade should be accompanied by a comment. There are kids who get an F because they never do any coursework and show no interest, and others who try really hard but just don't understand it. It's also important for the parents to know where the F comes from.
Anyway, I should stop discussing educational matters and concentrate on the puzzle.


Is George's age relevant? name? physical appearance? ethnicity? religion? social background?

You said Kedwinkle had given George other relevant grades in the past. Did this happen at the same school? In the same academic year?
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If the written exam George took was a non-subjective format (either you got it right or you didn't)... were the exams he took before this one SUBJECTIVE style? Had George been protesting that he had been unfairly receiving poor grades? And when the Professor finally gave a test that could be graded by a computer and he performed well, that "proved" Professor K was grading him unfairly before?
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Grade children on effort, yes, but I think the grade should be accompanied by a comment. There are kids who get an F because they never do any coursework and show no interest, and others who try really hard but just don't understand it. It's also important for the parents to know where the F comes from.I think effort may be a parent's business, but not a teacher's, but I'm retiring from this debate.
Anyway, I should stop discussing educational matters and concentrate on the puzzle. Same here.

Is George's age relevant? name? physical appearance? ethnicity? religion? social background? no to all

You said Kedwinkle had given George other relevant grades in the past. Did this happen at the same school? yes In the same academic year?yes
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If the written exam George took was a non-subjective format (either you got it right or you didn't)... were the exams he took before this one SUBJECTIVE style? no Had George been protesting that he had been unfairly receiving poor grades? no And when the Professor finally gave a test that could be graded by a computer and he performed well, that "proved" Professor K was grading him unfairly before? no
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Were the relevant grades given in the same class? In a class the semester before? Is George taking two classes with Kedwinkle that year?

Did George take the same exam that the others students took? Was something wrong with George's exam?
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I think I know this one. If so, it makes a good puzzle, but not an easy one! I will now retire.
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Were the relevant grades given in the same class? In a class the semester before? Is George taking two classes with Kedwinkle that year?

Did George take the same exam that the others students took? Was something wrong with George's exam?
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I think I know this one. If so, it makes a good puzzle, but not an easy one! I will now retire Why retire? If you know the answer, please $poil the puzzle!!
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Were the relevant grades given in the same class? yes In a class the semester before? possibly Is George taking two classes with Kedwinkle that year? no

Did George take the same exam that the others students took? yes Was something wrong with George's exam? yesish
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Did the teacher scribble something on George's exam? And someone thought George had written it?

Was the exam graded by Kedwinkle only?

Scantron relevant?
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Did the teacher scribble something on George's exam?irrel And someone thought George had written it? no

Was the exam graded by Kedwinkle only? yes

Scantron relevant?Probably not, since I don't even know what Scantron is.
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It's this machine that reads and analyzes multiple choice quizzes.

Just to make sure that I got everything right: George took an exam in Kedwinkle's class and got an A or B for it, which seemed suspiciously high. George had previously been graded by Kedwinkle in the same class.

Was there one other relevant grade? More than one? Was it a failing grade?

Did those who decided to fire Kedwinkle think that he had graded George's exam differently than the other students'? Did his exam look different from the others?

Did anything relevant happen between George and Kedwinkle beforehand?
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Hmm - did George supply the questions on the exam?
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It's this machine that reads and analyzes multiple choice quizzes.Interesting

Just to make sure that I got everything right: George took an exam in Kedwinkle's class and got an A or B for it, which seemed suspiciously high. yesISH George had previously been graded by Kedwinkle in the same class.yes

Was there one other relevant grade? yesMore than one?yes Was it a failing grade? no

Did those who decided to fire Kedwinkle think that he had graded George's exam differently than the other students'? yope Did his exam look different from the others? no

Did anything relevant happen between George and Kedwinkle beforehand? yes. GOOOOOOOOOOOD QUESTION!!!!
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Hmm - did George supply the questions on the exam? no
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Had George done Kedwinkle a favor? And someone thought the good grade was a recompensation?

Had George saved Kedwinkle's life?

Had they been in a relationship?

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Had George done Kedwinkle a favor? see below And someone thought the good grade was a recompensation? yes

Had George saved Kedwinkle's life? yes

Had they been in a relationship? yes

Nimue, I know that you love cats. I recently took some cute pictures of my sister's cats, want to see them?Is the Pope a Catholic?
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I take that as a yes. An e-mail is on its way!

So... relevant how George saved Kedwinkle's life?

By relationship, do you mean a sexual relationship?
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BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOPERRRRRRALERTTTTTTTTHad George saved Kedwinkle's life? yes The answer should be no
So... relevant how George saved Kedwinkle's life? n/a see above BLOOOOOOOOOOOOPERRRRRALERTTTT!!

By relationship, do you mean a sexual relationship?yes
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Did the people who fired Kedwinkle know about their relationship?
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Did the people who fired Kedwinkle know about their relationship? yes
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Are they still in a relationship when George takes the exam? When Kedwinkle grades it? When Kedwinkle is fired?

Did they fire him because they thought he was favouring George?
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Are they still in a relationship when George takes the exam? yes When Kedwinkle grades it? yes When Kedwinkle is fired? no

Did they fire him because they thought he was favouring George? yes, so now you need to fgure out why they thought that
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Was it because of something Kedwinkle said? wrote? something that George said? wrote?

Did someone other than Kedwinkle see George's exam?
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Was it because of something Kedwinkle said? nowrote? yessomething that George said? yeswrote? not other than thexam

Did someone other than Kedwinkle see George's exam?no
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So, kedwinkle had written something relevant. A letter? E- mail? To George? To someone else? A love letter?
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So, kedwinkle had written something relevant. A letter? noE- mail? This puzzle was inspired (?) by a novel that antedates the age of email, but nowadays, it might well be an email To George? noTo someone else? noA love letter? no
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So... he neither wrote it to George nor to someone else. Right? Did he write it to himself?

Was George planning to have Kedwinkle fired?

The relevant thing that George said - Did he say it to Kedwinkle? to one of the people who fired Kedwinkle? to someone else? Did he tell anyone about his and Kedwinkle's relationship?
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BLOOOOOOPERRRRALERTTTTT!!So, kedwinkle had written something relevant. A letter? noE- mail? This puzzle was inspired (?) by a novel that antedates the age of email, but nowadays, it might well be an email To George? noTo someone else? no The preceding no should be yesA love letter? no

So... he neither wrote it to George nor to someone else. Right? No. See above BLOOOOOPERRRR ALERTTTT!! He did write it to someone else Did he write it to himself? no

Was George planning to have Kedwinkle fired? in the novel, no, but he could have been

The relevant thing that George said - Did he say it to Kedwinkle? noto one of the people who fired Kedwinkle? noto someone else? yesDid he tell anyone about his and Kedwinkle's relationship? yes
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Did he tell one of his fellow students? Did the student report their relationship out of perceived unfairness in their own grading? Jealousy?
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Did he tell one of his fellow students? noDid the student report their relationship out of perceived unfairness in their own grading? n/a Jealousy?n/a
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Did he write something (a memo?) to a colleague? To his boss? To a counselor? To his family? To his clergy? Somebody he thought he could trust?
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Did he write something (a memo? yes) to a colleague? yope To his boss? no To a counselor? no To his family? no To his clergy? no Somebody he thought he could trust? irrel
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HINT: Find out what happened before the fair grade was given.
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Did they start their relationship shortly before the incriminating last grade was awarded?

Is it relevant they were gay? Or would it have worked with a straight couple as well?
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Were they still in a relationship when the grade was given? Or had they broken up?
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Did they start their relationship shortly before the incriminating last grade was awarded?no

Is it relevant they were gay?no Or would it have worked with a straight couple as well? yes
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Were they still in a relationship when the grade was given? no Or had they broken up? yes
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Was the memo written before they broke up? After?
The yopish colleague... was it a professor at another college? A magazine?
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Was the memo written before they broke up? noAfter? yes
The yopish colleague... was it a professor at another college? no A magazine? no
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Did them memo go to... somebody else who worked at the college? Cleaning staff? A tutor/TA?

Was the memo a confession? A suicide note?

Did George break up with the professor? Vice versa? Was the professor trying to enter a relationship with somebody else? Was George?
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Was the relevant memo grammatically correct? Incorrect? Hence the grade?
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Did the memo not mention that the relationship broke up? rather, said that the relationship goes on?
Did George send the memo to the professor's boss?
Did the professor's boss think the professor favours George because of their relationship, giving him unrealistic high grades now?
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Did them memo go to... somebody else who worked at the college? yesCleaning staff? please clarity--what is clearing staff?? A tutor/TA? no

Was the memo a confession? no A suicide note? no

Did George break up with the professor? Vice versa? Was the professor trying to enter a relationship with somebody else? Was George? irrel to all
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Was the relevant memo grammatically correct? irrelIncorrect? irrel Hence the grade? no
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Did the memo not mention that the relationship broke up? yes rather, said that the relationship goes on? no
Did George send the memo to the professor's boss? no
Did the professor's boss think the professor favours George because of their relationship, giving him unrealistic high grades now? yes
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Did he send the memo to an academic member of staff? Was the main point of the memo to say that he and George were in a relationship? Is it relevant why he didn't say they had broken up?
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Did he send the memo after he got the grade?
Did he use the moment to take revenge for the
broken up relationship?
Did he blackmail the professor?
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Cleaning staff = Janitor or similar.

Did Professor K admit to grading George MORE harshly before that paper due to their relationship? Who ended the relationship - the professor? George? Did the professor feel guilty?
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Did he send the memo to an academic member of staff? noWas the main point of the memo to say that he and George were in a relationship? no Is it relevant why he didn't say they had broken up? yes
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Did he send the memo after he got the grade? yope
Did he use the moment to take revenge for the
broken up relationship? no
Did he blackmail the professor? no
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Cleaning staff = Janitor or similar.

Did Professor K admit to grading George MORE harshly before that paper due to their relationship? no Who ended the relationship - the professor? irrel George? ditto Did the professor feel guilty? irrel
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Cleaning staff = Janitor or similar. not involved
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Are the events this:
K is a teacher of some sort? G is his student? they used to have a sexual relationship? which then ended? K graded an exam that G took? took before the break up? graded it correctly and fairly? gave a high grade? higher than G had previously received? K and G then broke up? G was then given the grade? K was then fired? because the authority at the educational establishment assumed he had given G a falsely high grade? because of the sexual relationship?

and K had graded G before the exam? but G had been given much lower grades before? was this because K gave him deliberately low grades to ensure he was not favouring his lover? or gave him low grades to hide the fact that they were lovers as people might expect him to give G higher grades?

you said 'yesish' that something was wrong with G's exam - correct? did he take it at a different time to other students? was he given special privileges? extra time? a different exam?

K wrote something relevant that led to him being fired? after he and G broke up? saying that they had broken up? wrote to someone in the educational establishment? G said something that led to K being fired? did it lead to this only in combination with what K wrote?

was it that the thing K wrote, in combination with what G said, alerted the authorities to the fact that there had been a sexual relationship? and they then assumed that K had given G favourable treatment?

so we need to find out what K wrote? and what G said?

did K write to a potential new lover? did he say that he had been or was in a relationship with a student? did he say something in the memo about the person he was in a relationship with that, only together with what G said identified G, a student, as his lover? did G say he had been in a relationship with a professor?
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Are the events this:
K is a teacher of some sort? yes G is his student? yesthey used to have a sexual relationship? yeswhich then ended? yesK graded an exam that G took? yestook before the break up? irrel graded it correctly yopeand fairly? yopegave a high grade? yesish higher than G had previously received? yes K and G then broke up? no G was then given the grade? yes K was then fired? yes because the authority at the educational establishment assumed he had given G a falsely high grade? yes because of the sexual relationship? yes

and K had graded G before the exam? yope but G had been given much lower grades before? yopewas this because K gave him deliberately low grades to ensure he was not favouring his lover? no or gave him low grades to hide the fact that they were lovers as people might expect him to give G higher grades? no

you said 'yesish' that something was wrong with G's exam - correct? did he take it at a different time to other students? no was he given special privileges? noextra time? no noa different exam?

K wrote something relevant that led to him being fired? yesafter he and G broke up? yessaying that they had broken up? no wrote to someone in the educational establishment? yes G said something that led to K being fired? yesdid it lead to this only in combination with what K wrote? yes

was it that the thing K wrote, in combination with what G said, alerted the authorities to the fact that there had been a sexual relationship? no and they then assumed that K had given G favourable treatment? yes

so we need to find out what K wrote? yesand what G said? yes

did K write to a potential new lover? no no did he say that he had been or was in a relationship with a student? nodid he say something in the memo about the person he was in a relationship with that, only together with what G said identified G, a student, as his lover? nodid G say he had been in a relationship with a professor? yes
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did G say he had been in a relationship with K? an unnamed professor?
the thing that K wrote - was it about relationships between students and staff? about relationships at all?
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Overheard...

What G said: "Thanks for the grade!"?
K response: "You earned it."
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did G say he had been in a relationship with K? no an unnamed professor? yes
the thing that K wrote - was it about relationships between students and staff? noabout relationships at all? no
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Overheard...

What G said: "Thanks for the grade!"? no
K response: "You earned it." no
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HINT: Find out exactly to whom K write the problematic thing.
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The memo went to somebody who worked at the college, was it...

Professor K's Ex ____ ?
The Dean?
The chancellor?
A president?
Member of the board of directors?
Another professor?
Another member of the faculty?
A secretary?
Other administrative staff?
A counsellor?
Student staff?
Other?
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The memo went to somebody who worked at the college, was it...

Professor K's Ex ____ ?
The Dean?
The chancellor?
A president?
Member of the board of directors?
Another professor?
Another member of the faculty?
A secretary?
Other administrative staff? yes --& no to all others
A counsellor?
Student staff?
Other?
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Did K write the exam? Was the memo to say that the exam contained an error?

Did the exam specifically contain a question that was impossible/unlikely to be answered correctly by most of the students? but G answered it correctly? Perhaps advantaged through his relationship with K? from seeing the exam ahead of time? or having extra tuition?

Did a difference between G's answer to one or more specific questions in the exam and the answers of his fellow students prompt an investigation? that uncovered the sexual relationship? hence K was fired for breaking college policy?
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Did K write the exam? yesWas the memo to say that the exam contained an error? no, but you're ORT (on the right track)

Did the exam specifically contain a question that was impossible/unlikely to be answered correctly by most of the students? nobut G answered it correctly? n/aPerhaps advantaged through his relationship with K? dittofrom seeing the exam ahead of time? dittoor having extra tuition? ditto

Did a difference between G's answer to one or more specific questions in the exam and the answers of his fellow students prompt an investigation? nothat uncovered the sexual relationship? no hence K was fired for breaking college policy?yesish, if you drop the 'hence'
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To clarify - was K fired for giving unfair marks? Or for having a relationship with a student?
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To clarify - was K fired for giving unfair marks? Or for having a relationship with a student? both
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Relevant when the relationship started?
Did the professor end the relationship? Or did George? Was it mutual? Relevant?
Are any other students relevant?
The staff that received the memo- a secretary or assistant?
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Relevant when the relationship started? yes
Did the professor end the relationship? irrel Or did George? dittoWas it mutual? ditto Relevant? no
Are any other students relevant? no
The staff that received the memo- a secretary or assistant? possibly but find out whose secretary or assistant it would be
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Professor K's? Someone responsible for overseeing exams? The principal? Someone who was ultimately responsible for firing K?

Could we have a recap? I'd like to ask more questions but I'm feeling a bit lost...
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Professor K's? Someone responsible for overseeing exams? yopeThe principal? no Someone who was ultimately responsible for firing K? no

Could we have a recap? I'd like to ask more questions but I'm feeling a bit lost.. Add the following to the puzzle description: Prof. K & George had an affair, which was over by the time the grade was issued. Who ended the affair is irrel. G sent a message to someone which led to K's getting fired on the (mistaken) assumption that he had given an unfair grade for sexual/romantic reasons.
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Can we assume that this is the first class George took with Professor K?
Did the relationship begin before the course started?
Did the relationship end before George took the exam? After the exam, but before it was graded? After it was graded but before George received the grade?
Did George believe his grade to be fair?
If not, did he believe that Professor K gave him too high a grade? Too low?
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Can we assume that this is the first class George took with Professor K? irrel
Did the relationship begin before the course started? ditto
Did the relationship end before George took the exam? After the exam, but before it was graded? After it was graded but before George received the grade? it's irrel which of these holds
Did George believe his grade to be fair? irrel
If not, did he believe that Professor K gave him too high a grade? Too low?
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Should we concentrate on what the letter said?
If so, did it directly state that George had dated Professor K? Was it implied?
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Should we concentrate on what the letter said? yes no
If so, did it directly state that George had dated Professor K? Was it implied? no
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Apologies if these have been asked before, I'm trying to get it clear in my head...

Are we looking for the content of two messages, one written by G and one by K?

Did the staff who thought K had been unfair think he had done so by:
Allowing George to take the exam normally, then giving him a higher grade than deserved?
Telling George beforehand what would be in the exam?
Giving George information during the exam?
Giving him special tuition that he didn't offer to anyone else?
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Apologies if these have been asked before, I'm trying to get it clear in my head...

Are we looking for the content of two messages, one written by G and one by K? No, any relevant message was written by K

Did the staff who thought K had been unfair think he had done so by:
Allowing George to take the exam normally, then giving him a higher grade than deserved? yes
Telling George beforehand what would be in the exam? no
Giving George information during the exam? no
Giving him special tuition that he didn't offer to anyone else? no
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In your recap you said "G sent a message to someone which led to K's getting fired on the (mistaken) assumption that he had given an unfair grade for sexual/romantic reasons." So did he? Did he say something rather than writing it? Or did George not give out any message at all?
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In your recap you said "G sent a message to someone which led to K's getting fired on the (mistaken) assumption that he had given an unfair grade for sexual/romantic reasons." So did he?see next answerDid he say something rather than writing it? {yes}Or did George not give out any message at all? see previous answer
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Did George say what he said casually? Or was this a more formal conversation, such as a meeting or an interview? Did he mention Professor K? Did he mention his grade?
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Did George say what he said casually?yes Or was this a more formal conversation, such as a meeting or an interview? no Did he mention Professor K? yes Did he mention his grade? no
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Did he say something that referenced his relationship with Professor K as a student? as a lover?
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Did he say something that referenced his relationship with Professor K as a student? yes as a lover? yes
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The person that George told-
did (s)he know of George's grade at the time of the conversation? afterward?
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The person that George told-
did (s)he know of George's grade at the time of the conversation? irrel afterward? ditto
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HINT: Find out to whom K's message was directed.
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Did anyone other than K's intended recipient of the letter read it? Read only a part of the letter? Such that they misinterpreted it, and so believed an already-ended relationship was still ongoing? Or was the letter vague enough in its details of the relationship that one could reasonably infer either way about whether the relationship was still ongoing?

You said that the person who ended the relationship is irrelevant, but is the reason relevant? Was K venting his frustrations/anxieties/upset at the ended relationship in his letter?

Was the letter directed towards a teacher? fellow student? police officer? social care worker? other public service worker (e.g. doctor/nurse, fireman, librarian etc.)? Did this intended recipient ever actually read the letter? Betray K's trust in them by passing the details on?
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Was it directed to a member of staff? Student? If staff, academic staff? Someone with responsibility over K? Someone he has responsibility over? A colleague on K's level? Someone K works closely with? Someone who knows George? Someone involved in exams? Did the memo reference the exam? Grading in general? George? K himself? Was it sent to the same person that George said what he said to? Did the combination of K's message and George's words lead to the sacking?
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Forgot to add 'family member' to the list of people towards whom the letter was directed. Was it a family member?
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Did anyone other than K's intended recipient of the letter read it? irrelRead only a part of the letter? no Such that they misinterpreted it, and so believed an already-ended relationship was still ongoing? no Or was the letter vague enough in its details of the relationship that one could reasonably infer either way about whether the relationship was still ongoing?yope

You said that the person who ended the relationship is irrelevant, but is the reason relevant? no Was K venting his frustrations/anxieties/upset at the ended relationship in his letter? no

Was the letter directed towards a teacher? no fellow student? no police officer? nosocial care worker? other public service worker (e.g. doctor/nurse, fireman, librarian etc.)? noDid this intended recipient ever actually read the letter? yesBetray K's trust in them by passing the details on? no
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Was it directed to a member of staff? yesStudent? noIf staff, academic staff? no Someone with responsibility over K? no Someone he has responsibility over? noA colleague on K's level? no Someone K works closely with? noSomeone who knows George? irrelSomeone involved in exams? yope Did the memo reference the exam? see next answerGrading in general?yesish George? yes K himself? yesWas it sent to the same person that George said what he said to? no Did the combination of K's message and George's words lead to the sacking? yes-- GOOOD QUESTION!!!!
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Forgot to add 'family member' to the list of people towards whom the letter was directed. Was it a family member? no
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Was the memo sent after the exam? Before? After K gave the grade? Before? Did K ask a question in it? Make a statement? Give an opinion? Did he mention the grade he gave George? Did he imply that George deserved a low grade, making his high grade suspicious? Did he ask for advice on grading? Comment on a difficulty with grading? Did he mention any other students?

The memo K wrote did not mention his and George's relationship, correct?
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Was the memo sent after the exam?yes Before? no After K gave the grade? noBefore? noDid K ask a question in it? no Make a statement? yesGive an opinion?See previous answerDid he mention the grade he gave George? yes Did he imply that George deserved a low grade, making his high grade suspicious? no Did he ask for advice on grading? no Comment on a difficulty with grading? yopeDid he mention any other students? no

The memo K wrote did not mention his and George's relationship, correct? yes
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Did G make the innocuous statement "Wow, Professor K has never given me such a high grade before." or something similar?

Was that enough, combined with the contents of the memo, to imply Professor K had traded favors for a grade? Or just imply a relationship with a student?
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Did G make the innocuous statement "Wow, Professor K has never given me such a high grade before." or something similar? no

Was that enough, combined with the contents of the memo, to imply Professor K had traded favors for a grade? N/A Or just imply a relationship with a student?N/A
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Recap?
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Recap?Add the following to the puzzle statement: A remark from George, in conjunction with a note from K to a member of the university staff (HINT: Find out that staff member's precise job), led to K's getting fired because on the grounds that K gave an unearned high grade to George because they had had a sexual relationship.
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The person to whom K sent the note:
Does their job require qualifications? A degree? DO they work with students? Are they involved in maintenance? Cleaning? Food? Security? Welfare? Finance? Administration of the university?
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The person to whom K sent the note:
Does their job require qualifications?] yesA degree? Not a Ph.D., but you probably have to be a college graduate. DO they work with students? yopeAre they involved in maintenance? no Cleaning? noFood? noSecurity? no Welfare? no Finance? noAdministration of the university? yes or yesish
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Are they involved in keeping records? Would they spend most of their time working in an office? Does their job require technical knowledge? Would it require a degree in a specific field?
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Chancellor? President? Dean? Board of Directors? Secretary? Finance? Grades?
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Are they involved in keeping records? yesWould they spend most of their time working in an office? yes Does their job require technical knowledge? noish or yopeWould it require a degree in a specific field? no
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Chancellor? no President? noDean? no Board of Directors? noSecretary? no Finance? noGrades? If you mean registrar, the answer is yes.
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So they are a registrar? That means they are in charge of handling student records, correct? Does that include exam results? Did the registrar have access to George's past exam results? Relevant? To the suspicious result that K gave him?
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So they are a registrar? yes That means they are in charge of handling student records, correct? yesDoes that include exam results? not specifically --just course final grades Did the registrar have access to George's past exam results?yope Relevant?yopeTo the suspicious result that K gave him? yes
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Did the registrar think there was something suspicious about George's grades? Did the grade suddenly go up because of the higher grade? Did K's note specifically tell the registrar what grade he had given George? Did K send the note to explain something that the registrar might otherwise have found odd? To try and get the registrar to do something? In response to a previous question asked by the registrar?
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Did the registrar think there was something suspicious about George's grades? no Did the grade suddenly go up because of the higher grade? yes Did K's note specifically tell the registrar what grade he had given George? yes Did K send the note to explain something that the registrar might otherwise have found odd? no To try and get the registrar to do something? yesIn response to a previous question asked by the registrar? no
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Did K's memo make it seem like he was trying to cover something up? Did he reference the fact that George's latest grade was higher than normal? Was he asking the registrar to put the grade on record? Did the registrar hear about what George said? Or did the registrar say something about the memo to someone else which led to the suspicion?
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Did K's memo make it seem like he was trying to cover something up? yesishDid he reference the fact that George's latest grade was higher than normal? yesish Was he asking the registrar to put the grade on record? yes Did the registrar hear about what George said? irrelOr did the registrar say something about the memo to someone else which led to the suspicion? yope
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Did he say something like "don't make a big deal about the fact this student's grade has gone up, it's fine"? Did he ask, or seem to be asking, the registrar not to publicise George's grade? Did the memo accidentally suggest that the grade he wanted the registrar to record was not a fair grade?
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Did he say something like "don't make a big deal about the fact this student's grade has gone up, it's fine"? Did he ask, or seem to be asking, the registrar not to publicise George's grade? Did the memo accidentally suggest that the grade he wanted the registrar to record was not a fair grade? No to all!! You're overlooking a REALLY SIMPLE POSSIBILITY FOR THE NOTE!!
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Did it give any other information than the grade? Did it say the same grade as the one that George in fact received? Was there a mistake in the note? Did the registrar misunderstand anything in it?
Did the memo also contain other students' grades?
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Did it give any other information than the grade? yope Did it say the same grade as the one that George in fact received? yope Was there a mistake in the note? noDid the registrar misunderstand anything in it? no
Did the memo also contain other students' grades? no
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Did the note acknowledge the fact that George's grade was higher than usual?
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Did the note acknowledge the fact that George's grade was higher than usual? yope!!
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Did the note say "No fails this semester"?

Was there some indication earlier in the term that George would fail the class? And that might result in him retaking the class? Losing his scholarship? Getting kicked out of school? Did George show up at the Registrar's office and act surprised that he'd passed?
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Did the note say "No fails this semester"? no to all

Was there some indication earlier in the term that George would fail the class? And that might result in him retaking the class? Losing his scholarship? Getting kicked out of school? Did George show up at the Registrar's office and act surprised that he'd passed? no
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Did Professor K say there was an error in his last report to the registrar? "Here's the corrected version?" But only 1 grade changed...
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Did Professor K say there was an error in his last report to the registrar? yes"Here's the corrected version?" yesBut only 1 grade changed... yes

This is close enough for me to declare a

*********** SPOILER **************
Prof K & G had an affair while G has in K's class (how sleazy). G got C on the final exam so K gave him a C in the course. Upon receiving the grade, G asked K to change it, saying he needed a B to keep his scholarship & asking for special consideration because of their "relationship." K said no. Then he rechecked G's final exam & found that an error had been made in adding up the subtotals & that K really deserved a B. So he changed G's grade. Unfortunately for K, G had also told another teacher that he had had an affair with K. When the news got out, K was fired because of the belief that the affair had affected his grading. This puzzle is adapted from Bernard Malamud's novel, A New Life, which was published before present-day sexual harassment policies. Thanks for sticking with it, everyone, and for solving it, Dicygnet!! Please see my new puzzle at the bottom of the page!!

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