| Author | Message | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2566 Registered: 12-2010 |
We had an intern at my workplace. There was something I ( = yours truly Doriana kitteh) wanted to know about him, but for a very specific reason I decided not ask him. What did I want to know and what's the reason? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5764 Registered: 9-2010 |
Did you want to know if he had a girlfriend, but were too shy to ask? (lol, that's the first thing that came to my mind...) | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2567 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did you want to know if he had a girlfriend, but were too shy to ask? (lol, that's the first thing that came to my mind...) No, I'm not shy when it comes to those things, hehe | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5765 Registered: 9-2010 |
Did it have to do with politics? religion? any other topic that one should be careful about debating with other people? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2569 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did it have to do with politics? religion? any other topic that one should be careful about debating with other people? no to all | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5766 Registered: 9-2010 |
if he liked kittehz? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2571 Registered: 12-2010 |
if he liked kittehz? noez | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5767 Registered: 9-2010 |
recat/hintz plz? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2572 Registered: 12-2010 |
recat/hintz plz? HINT: I'm the only one at my workplace who had this reason not to ask him. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5768 Registered: 9-2010 |
Are/were you also an intern? Did this take place in Germany? In France? Elsewhere? Did you want to know: His name? How old he was? Whether he was local or foreign? If he spoke German/French/English/something else? iz dis teh boifrend kitteh? xD | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2575 Registered: 12-2010 |
Are/were you also an intern? no Did this take place in Germany? this In France? Elsewhere? Did you want to know: His name? no... How old he was? no Whether he was local or foreign? no If he spoke German/French/English/something else? no iz dis teh boifrend kitteh? xD iz nawt | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5769 Registered: 9-2010 |
Ok, so there was an intern (may we call him Martin?) who worked at your workplace in Germany. (Zentral? NaturGut? Relevant?) Is Martin H/A/M? Younger than you? Older? Had he been working at the workplace before you were hired? After? Did you have a question about something concerning work? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2577 Registered: 12-2010 |
Ok, so there was an intern (may we call him Martin? we can) who worked at your workplace in Germany. right(Zentral? NaturGut? this Relevant? not really) Is Martin H/A/M? H/teenage/M Younger than you? yes Older? so, no Had he been working at the workplace before you were hired? After? this Did you have a question about something concerning work? noish | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5770 Registered: 9-2010 |
was it a personal question? an unprofessional one? would anyone at the workplace besides you be able to ask it? would it have been rude or discourteous for you to ask it, but fine for everyone else? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2580 Registered: 12-2010 |
was it a personal question? yes an unprofessional one? as in, not work-related? yes would anyone at the workplace besides you be able to ask it? yes would it have been rude or discourteous for you to ask it, but fine for everyone else? no, it would have been fine for all of us. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5771 Registered: 9-2010 |
hmmm...*ponders what non-work related questions you would be able to ask Martin but why you might not want to* (It doesn't help that here in the US, things might be more strict on that point, and what you might not consider rude our workplaces might, since PC-ness has gone mad here LOL.) | ||
| Solo1 (Solo1)
New member Username: Solo1 Post Number: 183 Registered: 5-2012 |
Is the question related to his appearance? Would it seem strange coming from a person of the opposite sex? or the same? Is it related to his education, or lack thereof? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2582 Registered: 12-2010 |
hmmm...*ponders what non-work related questions you would be able to ask Martin but why you might not want to* (It doesn't help that here in the US, things might be more strict on that point, and what you might not consider rude our workplaces might, since PC-ness has gone mad here LOL. I think the question wouldn't be considered rude in the US either...) Is the question related to his appearance? Would it seem strange coming from a person of the opposite sex? or the same? Is it related to his education, or lack thereof? no to all | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17561 Registered: 4-2010 |
His name? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2586 Registered: 12-2010 |
His name? ...is relevant. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17563 Registered: 4-2010 |
First name? Last? Middle? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2588 Registered: 12-2010 |
First name? Last? this Middle? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17566 Registered: 4-2010 |
So you did not ask what his last name was, correct? Is the reason why related to any of his other names? Do you now know his last name? Relevant? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2589 Registered: 12-2010 |
So you did not ask what his last name was, correct? not correct - see below Is the reason why related to any of his other names? Do you now know his last name? Relevant? There's a misunderstanding here. His last name is relevant, but it's not the piece of information that I wanted to ask for. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17567 Registered: 4-2010 |
OK... Should we find out what his last name was? Is his name ethnically German? Did you want to know if it was? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2591 Registered: 12-2010 |
Should we find out what his last name was? no Is his name ethnically German? yes, but irrel Did you want to know if it was? no Here's a RECAP for you guys. There was an intern at my workplace and I wanted to know something about him. For a specific reason, I decided not to ask him, and I was the only one at my workplace who could have had this reason. His last name is very relevant here, but the question is not about his name as a name (origin etc.) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17569 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you want to know about his parents? Grandparents? Other relatives? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2593 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did you want to know about his parents? no Grandparents? yope... investigate Other relatives? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17571 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ancestors? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2595 Registered: 12-2010 |
Ancestors? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17573 Registered: 4-2010 |
Grandmother? Grandfather? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2597 Registered: 12-2010 |
Grandmother? no Grandfather? yope | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17576 Registered: 4-2010 |
Step-grandfather? Grandfathers? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2599 Registered: 12-2010 |
Step-grandfather? no Grandfathers? no Before you get OTWT here, try to find out why I was the only one to have this reason. | ||
| Solo1 (Solo1)
New member Username: Solo1 Post Number: 185 Registered: 5-2012 |
(Lightbulb moment) Do you think you may be related to him? but company policy forbids hiring of relatives? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3380 Registered: 2-2011 |
do you share the same surname? were you intereted in his great uncle? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2600 Registered: 12-2010 |
(Lightbulb moment) Do you think you may be related to him? no but very OTRT but company policy forbids hiring of relatives? no do you share the same surname? no, but OTRT were you intereted in his great uncle? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3384 Registered: 2-2011 |
does he have the same name as your grandfather? did your grandfather have any illegitimate children? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2619 Registered: 12-2010 |
does he have the same name as your grandfather? no did your grandfather have any illegitimate children? none that I know of... Don't focus too much on the grandfather thing. | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 386 Registered: 2-2012 |
Hmm, ok I seem to have not posted my questions - let's try again (I think I forgot to hit the post button) Did you hire your intern? Is not asking the question yourself purely for your own benefit? Would the intern have a different reaction if you had asked the question yourself, instead of asking someone else to ask for you? Indeed, would it have been possible to ask someone else to pose the question and relay the answer back to you? If so, would this satisfy you? Were you trying to find out if you had met this intern before? Did you decide that there was a better way to find the information you wanted, that did not involve asking the intern directly? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 1132 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is the surname typical for the region you are from? Was there a famous person with this surname in your home town in the 1920s? and you wonder whether your intern might be a grandson of this man? Is your intern from a completely different region? Africa? America? (which would suggest that his grandfather emigrated at some point) Would you be happy? unhappy? neutral? if your intern was indeed a grandson of .. ? Do you hesitate to ask him because you do not want to disappoint him (or yourself?) in the case he is not? Are you afraid he would be unlucky if he finds out that he is indeed the grandson of ..? Did the possible famous person he possibly is the grandson of have some bad points in his life? (eg. he was a criminal, or a nazi official?) | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2624 Registered: 12-2010 |
Hmm, ok I seem to have not posted my questions - let's try again (I think I forgot to hit the post button) Did you hire your intern? no Is not asking the question yourself purely for your own benefit? please rephrase, not sure what you mean Would the intern have a different reaction if you had asked the question yourself, instead of asking someone else to ask for you? probably not Indeed, would it have been possible to ask someone else to pose the question and relay the answer back to you? yes If so, would this satisfy you? yes Were you trying to find out if you had met this intern before? no Did you decide that there was a better way to find the information you wanted, that did not involve asking the intern directly? Yes, I found a better way Is the surname typical for the region you are from? no Was there a famous person with this surname in your home town in the 1920s? no - remember that the intern is still in his teens and his grandparents were probably not even born then. But there are no famous people involved at all and you wonder whether your intern might be a grandson of this man? no, but... Is your intern from a completely different region? Africa? America? (which would suggest that his grandfather emigrated at some point) no, he's from the city we work in Would you be happy? unhappy? neutral? if your intern was indeed a grandson of .. ? neutral. It'd just satisfy my curiosity Do you hesitate to ask him because you do not want to disappoint him (or yourself?) in the case he is not? no Are you afraid he would be unlucky if he finds out that he is indeed the grandson of ..? no - he would know it if he was Did the possible famous person he possibly is the grandson of have some bad points in his life? no (eg. he was a criminal, or a nazi official?) As a clarification, I wanted to know if he is the grandson of XY, but XY is not a famous person. Explore. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 1134 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is XY a relative of you? or a relative of one of your friends? Is he a person you know, or have heard of, at any rate? A person that is or was related to the company you are working for? The founder or previous owner of the company? Is XY still alive? Did XY live in the same town? in the same street? in the same house? you are living in? Was your intern actually XY's grandson? Did the way you found out the information you wanted involve talking to other people? doing research about other people? about XY's children? Do you know XY's children, or some of them? Did your job help you to find out what you wanted to know? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3396 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the alternative to peek at his personnel records? look for a strawberry birthmark? ask someone else outside of work? google him? use a computer in any way? casually leave a photo of the grandfather lying around the office to see whether he noticed it and recognised him? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2626 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is XY a relative of you? no or a relative of one of your friends? no Is he a person you know, or have heard of, at any rate? I know him. See next answers A person that is or was related to the company you are working for? yes The founder or previous owner of the company? No, but he's the vice president. Good q's! Is XY still alive? yes Did XY live in the same town? in the same street? in the same house? you are living in? in the same town Was your intern actually XY's grandson? yes, but irrel Did the way you found out the information you wanted involve talking to other people? yes, but it's irrelevant how I found it out in the end doing research about other people? about XY's children? no to both Do you know XY's children, or some of them? no Did your job help you to find out what you wanted to know? Well, I just asked a co-worker of mine about it was the alternative to peek at his personnel records? look for a strawberry birthmark? ask someone else outside of work? google him? use a computer in any way? casually leave a photo of the grandfather lying around the office to see whether he noticed it and recognised him? nice ideas, but no. I just asked a co-worker. We have established that I our intern shares his last name with the vice president of our company, a gentleman in his 70s. I wanted to know whether Martin is his grandson (or related to him in any other way). What was my unique reason not to ask him? | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 395 Registered: 2-2012 |
Did your unique reason have something to do with your position in the company? Rules of the company? Ethics? Is your work relationship with the Vice President different in some way than that of the other employees? Did he speak a different language and would not have understood the question? Is there some other reason that your were physically unable to ask the question yourself? Were you concerned that someone else might find out that you asked the question yourself? And this would have negative consequences? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2631 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did your unique reason have something to do with your position in the company? Rules of the company? Ethics? Is your work relationship with the Vice President different in some way than that of the other employees? Did he speak a different language and would not have understood the question? Is there some other reason that your were physically unable to ask the question yourself? Were you concerned that someone else might find out that you asked the question yourself? And this would have negative consequences? Sorry, but that's a no to all | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3147 Registered: 7-2009 |
Are you the only woman at your company? Relevant? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2638 Registered: 12-2010 |
Are you the only woman at your company? no - we're 80 % women, actually Relevant? no | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2651 Registered: 12-2010 |
HINT: I didn't ask him the question because I knew how he'd feel about it... | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 404 Registered: 2-2012 |
Ah, ok, so the intern would have some feeling about it. But, based on one of your previous answers , he would probably have the same reaction regardless of who asked him the question. hmmm.... His feeling about it, which we now know would be the same regardless of who asked, would if have been associated with you, regardless of who asked (even if it were you)? Or would it have been a feeling associated with the person that was asking him the question (again, even if it were you)? This feeling: Offended? Surprised? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2654 Registered: 12-2010 |
Ah, ok, so the intern would have some feeling about it. But, based on one of your previous answers , he would probably have the same reaction regardless of who asked him the question. hmmm.... Yes, but not everyone would have been aware of the feeling... His feeling about it, which we now know would be the same regardless of who asked, would if have been associated with you, regardless of who asked (even if it were you)? no Or would it have been a feeling associated with the person that was asking him the question (again, even if it were you)? no This feeling: Offended? probably Surprised? maybe that as well Let me rephrase what we've found out. I wanted to ask the intern if he was our vice president's grandson. But I didn't do so because I knew that he might be offended by the question. How did I know? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2075 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does he try to constantly "hide" the fact that he is related to the vicepresident (in order not to stir animosity around the co-workers, for example)? Have you been hired in the same time with him? If so, did you have a relevant conversation? Or maybe when hired (or in another relevant occasion) you wanted to speak with the VP and ended up with him? (to the surprise of both?) Is it relevant if you would have asked the question in private or in public (with at least one other person present, that's it)? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2656 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does he try to constantly "hide" the fact that he is related to the vicepresident (in order not to stir animosity around the co-workers, for example)? He is not related to the vice president Have you been hired in the same time with him? no If so, did you have a relevant conversation? no Or maybe when hired (or in another relevant occasion) you wanted to speak with the VP and ended up with him? (to the surprise of both?) no Is it relevant if you would have asked the question in private or in public (with at least one other person present, that's it)? not relevant | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2081 Registered: 9-2009 |
Not being related, do they share a common surname? Or maybe some other characteristic? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2658 Registered: 12-2010 |
Not being related, do they share a common surname? yes Or maybe some other characteristic? no | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 2453 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was the reason work-related? Were you his superior at the moment? Did Martin do something awkward? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2661 Registered: 12-2010 |
Was the reason work-related? Were you his superior at the moment? Did Martin do something awkward? no to all | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3162 Registered: 7-2009 |
Had you had a conversation with him in the past where he told you he hated having a common name because everyone always thought he was related to someone else? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2668 Registered: 12-2010 |
Had you had a conversation with him in the past where he told you he hated having a common name because everyone always thought he was related to someone else? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3413 Registered: 2-2011 |
do you share that name? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2682 Registered: 12-2010 |
do you share that name? no, but... | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3422 Registered: 2-2011 |
did your mother? grandfather? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2684 Registered: 12-2010 |
did your mother? grandfather? no... HINT: There's one more relevant person here, also from my workplace | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3188 Registered: 7-2009 |
your boss? The company president? CEO? Other management? Someone you're related to? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2690 Registered: 12-2010 |
your boss? The company president? this CEO? Other management? Someone you're related to? no, but... | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1695 Registered: 4-2007 |
does this other person share your name? the vice presidents name? is he or she another coworker? would the intern be annoyed that just because he has the same name people assume hes related? has he asked you if you're related to this other person? does he think you are? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2695 Registered: 12-2010 |
does this other person share your name? yes the vice presidents name? is he or she another coworker? would the intern be annoyed that just because he has the same name people assume hes related? probably has he asked you if you're related to this other person? does he think you are? all unanswered questions are a no, and I think it's time for the ********SPOILER******** My company's president and I share the same last name and people often ask me if I'm her daughter (funnily enough, her daughter's first name is actually very similar to mine!). I find that annoying and even offensive because to me it sounds like they assume I only got the job because I'm related to the president. Some weeks ago, we had an intern who shares his last name with our vice-president. Although I was really curious if he is his grandson, I decided not ask him - because I thought he might be offended by the question and I wanted to spare him the embarrassment. Thanks for playing, and don't forget to have a look at my new puzzle at the bottom of the page & my long-running puzzle "Twice the Price". |
