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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 4:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How was I able to approximate the date that one of my textbooks was written by reading only the back cover?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 4:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Before I forget: There is some special knowledge needed that will become evident as the puzzle progresses. When it gets to that point, I'll link to a page containing that knowledge, but won't actually tell you what it is.

Also before I forget: I = my = me (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 5:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it information (words? map?) that gave the date away?
A picture, say of a car? or a building? or the non-existance of a building that now exists?
Or was it something like the style of the cover?
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Was it related to some important (worldwide) event?

Is it important what kind of textbook it was?
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Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 2:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the back cover describe the contents of the book? did it mention the author? did it mention some belief or attitude that is now known to be false? or an out of date fact? or alternatively did you know the book was recent because it mentioned a newly discovered fact?
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Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 3:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By "approximate", do you mean ~10 years? ~5 years? ~1 year? even more accurate than this?

Is the subject relevant?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 4:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it information (words? map?) that gave the date away? Yes, words, so No to rest
A picture, say of a car? or a building? or the non-existance of a building that now exists?
Or was it something like the style of the cover?

did the back cover describe the contents of the book? did it mention the author? This is relevant did it mention some belief or attitude that is now known to be false? or an out of date fact? As is this or alternatively did you know the book was recent because it mentioned a newly discovered fact?

By "approximate", do you mean ~10 years? ~5 years? ~1 year? even more accurate than this? I correctly stated "late '90s, probably closer to the end of the decade" -- the book was written in 1999

Is the subject relevant? No
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Is the author male? female? relevant?
American? relevant?
Still alive?

Did the book mention the Year 2000 Problem? Anything else related to the new millenium?

Was the relevant fact related to science? religion? culture?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 5:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

oops, the list wasn't complete yet...

politics? sports? demographics? environment?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 7:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the author male? Yes female? relevant? No
American? Yes relevant? Somewhat
Still alive? Yes

Did the book mention the Year 2000 Problem? Anything else related to the new millenium? No to both

Was the relevant fact related to science? religion? culture? politics? sports? demographics? environment? No to all
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the author well known? were they well known in the 90s but not now? did something change about the author after 1999? did the book fail to mention an achievement they made later? did it mention their family?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 12:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the author well known? were they well known in the 90s but not now? did something change about the author after 1999? did the book fail to mention an achievement they made later? did it mention their family? No to all
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Did you notice something about the ISBN number? Is it relevant that it was an American book? Was a president or other famous person depicted on the back cover? If only text suggested you the approx. publishing date, was it an error famous in the appropriate timeframe? Some theory that was soon put to rest because of a better proof?
Balin (Balin)
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Did you notice something about the ISBN number? Is it relevant that it was an American book? Yes, No to rest Was a president or other famous person depicted on the back cover? If only text suggested you the approx. publishing date, was it an error famous in the appropriate timeframe? "Famous" would not be the right word, but I noticed instantly for relevant reasons. And at the time of publishing, it was not an error (HINT) Some theory that was soon put to rest because of a better proof?
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Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 2:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does it list the author's achievements? background? qualifications? Was something referred to that no longer exists? has changed it's name?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does it list the author's achievements? background? All of these but I guess this is the most relevant qualifications?
Was something referred to that no longer exists? has changed it's name? This
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is his nationality relevant?did it say he was from a country that has changed its name? did it mention where he studied? worked?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is his nationality relevant? No did it say he was from a country that has changed its name? No did it mention where he studied? I forget, but... worked? Yes!
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Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 8:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any of the former Yugoslavia countries?

Did the back cover mention the new name of the country (thus allowing you to infer that the book was written after the split of the country)?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any of the former Yugoslavia countries? Did the back cover mention the new name of the country (thus allowing you to infer that the book was written after the split of the country)? I said No to the countries
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Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 9:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oops, you're right. I was misled when you mentioned where he worked.. hang on... .. did that "where" refer to something else than a country (eg an institution)?
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Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2012 - 11:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If it's an institution, has it changed its name? Has it merged with another institution? split up into several smaller institutions?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, October 12, 2012 - 2:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hang on... .. did that "where" refer to something else than a country Yes (eg an institution)? Yes, a specific type of institution

If it's an institution, has it changed its name? Yes Has it merged with another institution? split up into several smaller institutions?
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Is the institution a university? anything government-related?

Is it named after a person?
Balin (Balin)
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Is the institution a university? Yes, No to rest anything government-related? Is it named after a person?
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Did it change its name from _ College to _ University? Did it create a hybrid name after merging with another school? Did it get renamed to honor a sponsor/supporter? Did it get renamed after a negative incident?
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Did it change its name from _ College to _ University? Yes; No to rest Did it create a hybrid name after merging with another school? Did it get renamed to honor a sponsor/supporter? Did it get renamed after a negative incident?

Last piece of information: how did I know this?
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Is it the college you go/went to? A college in your hometown?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 12:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it the college you go/went to? Yes. A college in your hometown?

**********SPOILER**********

For one of my classes, I needed a textbook written by that class's professor. When reading the back of the book, it said that he teaches at "Elon College." However, I go there, and I know that it changed its name to "Elon University" in 2001. So I estimated that the book was written in the late '90s, closer to the end of the decade. And I was right; it was written in 1999.

Nice solve everyone, especially Noel who did a lot of the work. New puzzle as soon as I remember the one I want to post...

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