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Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 12:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

... and then she died!

Please reconstruct the chain of events
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Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 1:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok I'll start with the basics.

He = H? A? M?
She = H? A? F?

True Story? FYOI? Fiction?

Was she murdered? Is he a detective or policeman? is he the murderer? Anyone else present?

Does he know she? are they related ? in a relationship? enemies?
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He = H? A? M? Yes to all
She = H? A? F? Yes to all

True Story? Yes, it happened last month FYOI? Fiction?

Was she murdered? YesIs he a detective or policeman? is he the murderer? It seems so, assume yes Anyone else present? No, or not yet revealed, irr. anyway

Does he know she? are they related ? in a relationship? enemies? No to all
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Was the murder a random killing? Part of a serial string of crimes?
Did he actually say something? Did he say the word "murder"? That he was going to murder her?
Method of killing relevant?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Was the murder a random killing? NoPart of a serial string of crimes? He was a serial killer, but irr

Did he actually say something? Did he say the word "murder"? That he was going to murder her?No to all, or irr. Probably he said something, but do not concentrate on this
Method of killing relevant? YOPE. The actual murder part is unknown - like strangling or hit with a blunt object - and also irrelevant. The general circumstances are, however!
Balin (Balin)
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Did he kidnap her? Kill her at her house? His house? Some other house? Inside? Outside?

Has her body been found?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Did he kidnap her? YOPE. Good q. Kill her at her house? His house? Some other house? Inside? Outside?This one. No to the rest

Has her body been found? Yes
Balin (Balin)
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Did she go with him willingly?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Did she go with him willingly? Yes
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Did he use any relevant mean of transportation? The time elapsed between the "kidnapping" and the murder: seconds? minutes? hours? days? weeks? months?
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Did he use any relevant mean of transportation? Somehow relevant, so a YOPE. Beware FA. The time elapsed between the "kidnapping" and the murder: seconds? minutes? hours? days? weeks? months? Unknown exactly, but probably 1-2 hours, maybe even less
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Did they know each other? Relevant?
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Oh and if so, are they related? (If so, siblings? mother/son? father/daughter? cousins?) Married? in a relationship? friends? co-workers? classmates?
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Did they know each other? No Relevant? I'd say yes

Oh and if so, are they related? (If so, siblings? mother/son? father/daughter? cousins?) Married? in a relationship? friends? co-workers? classmates? No to all, complete strangers
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Did she expect him coming for her? Did he take her from her house? Is that relevant?
Was he in a disguise?
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Did she expect him coming for her? No Did he take her from her house? NoIs that relevant? Yes, very
Was he in a disguise? No
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 1:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A little HINT:

Figure out where the two met, and we'll start from there

Some details about her might also help
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 5:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they meet in public? In a building? At a building?
Her job relevant?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Did they meet in public? Yes In a building? Yes At a building?
Her job relevant? No -- or only in a general sense
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At a business? A government building? A school?
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At a business? A government building? A school? None of these
Redwine (Redwine)
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Did they meet on private ground? On professional ground? If the latter: in his workplace? in her workplace?
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Did they meet on private ground? On professional ground? If the latter: in his workplace? in her workplace? None of these. To cut the story, in an airport
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did he go to the airport specifically to find someone to kill? her in particular?

did he work there? did he pose as someone who worked there?

did he approach her? did she approach him?
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Did she work there? Was she there because she was about to fly somewhere? Because she had just arrived? Because she was waiting for someone?
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did he go to the airport specifically to find someone to kill? her in particular?

did he work there? did he pose as someone who worked there?

did he approach her? Probably, yes did she approach him? But this is also possible

The rest are a no
Balin (Balin)
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Was he a passenger? Was she?
Doriana (Doriana)
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You skipped my questions...
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You skipped my questions... Oooops, sorry

Did she work there? No Was she there because she was about to fly somewhere? No Because she had just arrived? Yes Because she was waiting for someone?No

Was he a passenger? No Was she? Yes, just arrived
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Was he waiting for her? for someone else? Did she expect someone to meet her at the airport?
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Was he waiting for her? Nofor someone else? Noish to Yope Did she expect someone to meet her at the airport? No!
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Was he planning to kidnap/kill her? Someone else? Anyone? Was she a victim of wrong place/wrong time?
Had she just gotten off a flight?
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Was he planning to kidnap/kill her? Not her, specifically Someone else? Anyone? Planning, I don't know. But that was what happened Was she a victim of wrong place/wrong time? Maybe
Had she just gotten off a flight? Yes

I think we have enough for a

******* SPOILER *******

Last month, a 20-year Japanese student arrived here (part of some intercultural exchange or something), in order to teach Japanese to some students from another city of the country. The journey was not simple, she had to arrive at Bucharest International, take a cab to the train station, board a train for the city situated 300 km away -- all in the middle of the night and not being welcomed by anyone.

Approached by a stranger who offered to guide her, she readily accepted -- only to be found out next day raped, robbed and killed in a nearby forest.

This caused much debate. The killer has been apprehended. But I still don't understand how - coming from another continent, to a country of which you don't know anything, carrying luggage after you, being a 20-year old woman, in the middle of the night, with nobody around you -- you accept the offer of a perfect stranger.

Sad story.

Anyway, thanks to all for playing and to Balin for the final solve.

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Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - 6:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sad story indeed. What I don't understand is why there was nobody at the airport to pick her up. If you're the institution organising the exchange, you should have enough common sense to send someone to pick up a 20-year-old girl who arrives in the middle of the night :|
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Wow, what a sad story. Glad they caught the guy.
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 9:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Indeed, Doriana, I don't understand also why nobody was there to pick her up. However, I am not familiar with what the contract between them said -- but she sadly met her fate in a most horrible way.
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How awful, I am so sorry for her.

As much of a Monday morning footballer I might be, I cannot tell for sure whether I would be wise enough NOT to accept his offer in her situation.

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