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Author Message Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2688 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 2:01 pm:        I work at an environmental education centre. Sometimes our visitors gunwath, which is very annoying and counterproductive for me and my co-workers. What does to gunwath mean? Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3191 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 3:17 pm:        Does gunwathing have to do with the environment? With education? Does it happen outside? inside? Could it happen at a noneducational facility? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2689 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 4:59 pm:        Does gunwathing have to do with the environment? in this case, yes, but not necessarily With education? no Does it happen outside? inside? could be both Could it happen at a noneducational facility? yes Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3429 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 5:34 pm:        does gunwathing involve saying something? thinking something? doing something? going somewhere? does it involve not doing something? Ginevra (Ginevra) New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2012 Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 7:36 pm:        Is gunwath some sort of acronym? (Going utterly naked walking about through hedges?-that might be annoying to say the least!) Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2691 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 7:45 pm:        does gunwathing involve saying something? this thinking something? doing something? going somewhere? no to rest does it involve not doing something? no Is gunwath some sort of acronym? yes Hello and welcome to the forum, by the way. This is a so-called neologistic puzzle where the setter makes up a word and the solvers have to guess its meaning. The neologism can be either an acronym or a completely random word - check out the neologistic catalogue at the top of the puzzle page for more examples! (Going utterly naked walking about through hedges?-that might be annoying to say the least!) Haha! Trying to picture that in my mind... But unfortunately that's not the answer. Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3431 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 8:36 pm:        does it involve asking questions? giving advice? complaining? making jokes? commenting? when they do this, do they do it to the staff? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2692 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 - 9:34 pm:        does it involve asking questions? giving advice? complaining? making jokes? commenting? no to all, but commenting is closest when they do this, do they do it to the staff? yes Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3196 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 2:12 am:        correcting you? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2693 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 8:57 am:        correcting you? no Rbruma (Rbruma) New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2100 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Monday, October 15, 2012 - 9:11 am:        Are their comments "bad remarks" for your job? Or maybe they are asking questions totally unrelated to your job? Or something that can only be answered by a higher authority (e.g., the mayor's office), thus wasting your time? Do they want something to be physicaly demonstrated? By the staff? I am sorry if the questions above seem stupid, I don't know what such a center does Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2698 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Monday, October 15, 2012 - 7:19 pm:        Are their comments "bad remarks" for your job? not sure what you mean, please rephrase. But I think it's a no Or maybe they are asking questions totally unrelated to your job? they do that all the time, but that's not it Or something that can only be answered by a higher authority (e.g., the mayor's office), thus wasting your time? no Do they want something to be physicaly demonstrated? By the staff? no I am sorry if the questions above seem stupid, I don't know what such a center does They're not stupid, but I'll briefly explain it for all of you. We teach people - usually but not only childen - about nature, environmental issues and climate change. Our visitors are school groups on field trips, youth groups or families who book guided tours or explore our grounds and museum by themselves. Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3198 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Monday, October 15, 2012 - 8:32 pm:        Talking to each other while you're talking? Specifically, talking to each other about you/what you're saying? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2699 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Monday, October 15, 2012 - 9:28 pm:        Talking to each other while you're talking? Specifically, talking to each other about you/what you're saying? no to both Rbruma (Rbruma) New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2101 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 - 2:58 pm:        Does this happen only with children? With adults? Alhucema (Alhucema) New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 2501 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 - 4:48 pm:        So they gunwath to/with you, by saying something to you right? Do you perceive gunwathing as rude/aggressive/impolite/just annoying? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2700 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 - 5:29 pm:        Does this happen only with children? With adults? it's more likely to happen with children, but it can also happen with adults So they gunwath to/with you, by saying something to you right? I wouldn't say they gunwath to me or with me, they just gunwath. Do you perceive gunwathing as rude/aggressive/impolite/just annoying? Mainly annoying because, HINT, people usually don't do it intentionally Rbruma (Rbruma) New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2105 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 1:55 pm:        Counterproductive in the sense that: they stop you from work? They destroy something that needs further repairing? They walk on restricted areas, thus requiring you (or your colleagues)to call the police or ask the security staff to settle the matter? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2702 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 6:32 pm:        Counterproductive in the sense that: they stop you from work? They destroy something that needs further repairing? They walk on restricted areas, thus requiring you (or your colleagues)to call the police or ask the security staff to settle the matter? no to all Alhucema (Alhucema) New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 2507 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 6:38 pm:        Is what they say always the same? Is it usually one sentence? More? One word? Can you tell they are gunwathing if you only hear (and not see) them? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2704 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 7:42 pm:        Is what they say always the same? it's not the exact same wording, but it's very similar Is it usually one sentence? More? One word? {usually about two words} Can you tell they are gunwathing if you only hear (and not see) them? yes, but in the situation where gunwathing usually occurs, it is very unlikely that I hear but not see them. Alhucema (Alhucema) New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 2508 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 8:05 pm:        Do you gunwath in relation to some object? activity? person? or just gunwath? Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1699 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 8:51 pm:        does it show a lack of respect for the environment? show ignorance about environmental matters? is it countrproductive by working against your trying to educate them? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2705 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 9:31 pm:        Do you gunwath in relation to some object? activity? person? or just gunwath? you just gunwath. The acronym gunwath consists of a verb and a noun, so you X a Y. does it show a lack of respect for the environment? no show ignorance about environmental matters? yesish is it countrproductive by working against your trying to educate them? yes, good q! Rbruma (Rbruma) New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2110 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 9:55 pm:        If I'd say ... "I don't give a **** about your explanation", that would constitute a gunwash? Or at least OTRT? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2708 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 12:00 pm:        If I'd say ... "I don't give a **** about your explanation", that would constitute a gunwash? no, and a slight FA considering "explanation" Or at least OTRT? not really Alhucema (Alhucema) New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 2520 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 12:07 pm:        Do they gunwath in a particular situation? DOes gunwathing require a special setting? Does it take at least two people to gunwath (that is, if there was just one person and you, could that one person still gunwath)? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2709 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 1:34 pm:        Do they gunwath in a particular situation? yesish DOes gunwathing require a special setting? DOYD of "special setting". I'd say yope Does it take at least two people to gunwath (that is, if there was just one person and you, could that one person still gunwath)? no, one person is enough. Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1700 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 5:24 pm:        do they interrupt you?disagree with you? act like they know better than you? like they already know what you're telling them? do they gunwath in response to something you have said? when you are explaining something? in answer to a question from you? is it answering a rhetorical question? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2713 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 9:34 pm:        do they interrupt you?disagree with you? act like they know better than you? like they already know what you're telling them? no to all do they gunwath in response to something you have said? yes when you are explaining something? no in answer to a question from you? YES! is it answering a rhetorical question? no By the way, my mum gunwathed a moment ago. And I'm sure that some of you have done it as well... Alhucema (Alhucema) New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 2534 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 9:38 pm:        Is it always the same question? is the answer meant to provoke you? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2716 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 9:43 pm:        Is it always the same question? no, but it's always the same type of question. Explore. is the answer meant to provoke you? Usually not Alhucema (Alhucema) New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 2535 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 9:45 pm:        Does the question relate to them (such as "do you like this?") Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2717 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 9:47 pm:        Does the question relate to them (such as "do you like this?") no Alhucema (Alhucema) New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 2536 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 9:50 pm:        Is it a question you usually ask? is it about what they can see in your centre? do you ask them to imagine something? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2718 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 10:32 pm:        Is it a question you usually ask? yes is it about what they can see in your centre? no do you ask them to imagine something? no Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2720 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 5:12 pm:        RECAP Gunwathing is a way to respond to a certain kind of question. You can gunwath intentionally, but most people do it accidentally, often because they lack specific knowledge. In my case, gunwathing annoys me because it works against my intention to teach people something. Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1703 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 11:31 pm:        is it a yes/no question? is iyt aimed at the visitors? do you want them to answer it at all? does the question ask about their knowledge of what you are telling them? does it contain the word 'who 'what' 'when' 'why' 'where' 'how'? Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1704 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 11:34 pm:        is it a yes/no question? is iyt aimed at the visitors? do you want them to answer it at all? does the question ask about their knowledge of what you are telling them? does it contain the word 'who 'what' 'when' 'why' 'where' 'how'? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2722 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 12:22 am:        is it a yes/no question? no is iyt aimed at the visitors? yes do you want them to answer it at all? yes does the question ask about their knowledge of what you are telling them? yesish does it contain the word 'who 'what' 'when' 'why' 'where' 'how'? it contains "how", but that's not the whole question word. Sundowner (Sundowner) New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 1147 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 9:24 am:        how long? how far? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2724 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 10:18 am:        how long? how far? it could be "how long"; "how far" is less likely. It's usually "how much" or "how many" Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1705 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 1:22 pm:        do they get the answer correct? do they guess? do they misunderstand the question? does their answer ruin what you are about to tell them? do you ask them the question and then give the answer if they don't know? Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3453 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 3:26 pm:        do people generally know the answer? not know it? make a guess? guess correctly? guess based on false assumptions? guess wildly wrongly? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2730 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 4:20 pm:        do they get the answer correct? no do they guess? yes do they misunderstand the question? no does their answer ruin what you are about to tell them? yes do you ask them the question and then give the answer if they don't know? yes do people generally know the answer? depends. Maybe I should add a clarification: I don't expect them to know the answer, I just want them to guess it. This is somewhat important not know it? depends as well make a guess? yes guess correctly? no guess based on false assumptions? no guess wildly wrongly? sometimes Ok, so we've determined that people are supposed to either know or guess the answer to a "How much?" question. How can guessing ruin what I am about to tell them? Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3455 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 5:13 pm:        is it because you want to wow them with some stupendous fact and if they guess wildly high it can ruin the impact of the true answer? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2731 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 5:29 pm:        ,is it because you want to wow them with some stupendous fact and if they guess wildly high it can ruin the impact of the true answer? Exactly! We have a winner! Time for the long-awaited ********SPOILER******** gunwath stands for "guess a number way too high. It occurs when you ask someone to guesstimate a number in order to cause a wow effect, but they guess a ridiculously high number and therefore ruin the surprise. (For example, I ask a group of children "How many kg of paper does a German use each year?" and they answer something like "A million kg!" because they haven't developed a concept of large quantities yet. But it can also happen with adults as my mum showed me lately. I asked her the same question and she gunwathed 5 tons. So I was like, "Mum you use more than 10 kg of paper a day?!") Gunwathing has a neologistic counterpart, coined by Peter365 a while ago: Hagtras (v): to guess an amount lower than the actual deal that someone is bragging about receiving. Thanks for playing and congrats to Enjay, Sundowner and especialy Shez for the final questions!