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Doriana (Doriana)
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I work at an environmental education centre. Sometimes our visitors gunwath, which is very annoying and counterproductive for me and my co-workers.

What does to gunwath mean?
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Does gunwathing have to do with the environment? With education?

Does it happen outside? inside? Could it happen at a noneducational facility?
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Does gunwathing have to do with the environment? in this case, yes, but not necessarily With education? no

Does it happen outside? inside? could be both Could it happen at a noneducational facility? yes
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does gunwathing involve saying something? thinking something? doing something? going somewhere?

does it involve not doing something?
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Is gunwath some sort of acronym?

(Going utterly naked walking about through hedges?-that might be annoying to say the least!)
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does gunwathing involve saying something? this thinking something? doing something? going somewhere? no to rest

does it involve not doing something? no

Is gunwath some sort of acronym? yes
Hello and welcome to the forum, by the way. This is a so-called neologistic puzzle where the setter makes up a word and the solvers have to guess its meaning. The neologism can be either an acronym or a completely random word - check out the neologistic catalogue at the top of the puzzle page for more examples!


(Going utterly naked walking about through hedges?-that might be annoying to say the least!) Haha! Trying to picture that in my mind... But unfortunately that's not the answer.
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does it involve asking questions? giving advice? complaining? making jokes? commenting?

when they do this, do they do it to the staff?
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does it involve asking questions? giving advice? complaining? making jokes? commenting? no to all, but commenting is closest

when they do this, do they do it to the staff? yes
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correcting you?
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correcting you? no
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Are their comments "bad remarks" for your job? Or maybe they are asking questions totally unrelated to your job? Or something that can only be answered by a higher authority (e.g., the mayor's office), thus wasting your time?

Do they want something to be physicaly demonstrated? By the staff?

I am sorry if the questions above seem stupid, I don't know what such a center does
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Are their comments "bad remarks" for your job? not sure what you mean, please rephrase. But I think it's a no Or maybe they are asking questions totally unrelated to your job? they do that all the time, but that's not it Or something that can only be answered by a higher authority (e.g., the mayor's office), thus wasting your time? no

Do they want something to be physicaly demonstrated? By the staff? no

I am sorry if the questions above seem stupid, I don't know what such a center does They're not stupid, but I'll briefly explain it for all of you.
We teach people - usually but not only childen - about nature, environmental issues and climate change. Our visitors are school groups on field trips, youth groups or families who book guided tours or explore our grounds and museum by themselves.
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Talking to each other while you're talking? Specifically, talking to each other about you/what you're saying?
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Talking to each other while you're talking? Specifically, talking to each other about you/what you're saying? no to both
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Does this happen only with children? With adults?
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So they gunwath to/with you, by saying something to you right?

Do you perceive gunwathing as rude/aggressive/impolite/just annoying?
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Does this happen only with children? With adults? it's more likely to happen with children, but it can also happen with adults

So they gunwath to/with you, by saying something to you right? I wouldn't say they gunwath to me or with me, they just gunwath.

Do you perceive gunwathing as rude/aggressive/impolite/just annoying? Mainly annoying because, HINT, people usually don't do it intentionally
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Counterproductive in the sense that: they stop you from work? They destroy something that needs further repairing? They walk on restricted areas, thus requiring you (or your colleagues)to call the police or ask the security staff to settle the matter?
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Counterproductive in the sense that: they stop you from work? They destroy something that needs further repairing? They walk on restricted areas, thus requiring you (or your colleagues)to call the police or ask the security staff to settle the matter? no to all
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Is what they say always the same? Is it usually one sentence? More? One word?

Can you tell they are gunwathing if you only hear (and not see) them?
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Is what they say always the same? it's not the exact same wording, but it's very similar Is it usually one sentence? More? One word? {usually about two words}

Can you tell they are gunwathing if you only hear (and not see) them? yes, but in the situation where gunwathing usually occurs, it is very unlikely that I hear but not see them.
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Do you gunwath in relation to some object? activity? person? or just gunwath?
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does it show a lack of respect for the environment? show ignorance about environmental matters? is it countrproductive by working against your trying to educate them?
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Do you gunwath in relation to some object? activity? person? or just gunwath? you just gunwath. The acronym gunwath consists of a verb and a noun, so you X a Y.

does it show a lack of respect for the environment? no show ignorance about environmental matters? yesish is it countrproductive by working against your trying to educate them? yes, good q!
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If I'd say ... "I don't give a **** about your explanation", that would constitute a gunwash? Or at least OTRT?
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If I'd say ... "I don't give a **** about your explanation", that would constitute a gunwash? no, and a slight FA considering "explanation" Or at least OTRT? not really
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Do they gunwath in a particular situation? DOes gunwathing require a special setting?

Does it take at least two people to gunwath (that is, if there was just one person and you, could that one person still gunwath)?
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Do they gunwath in a particular situation? yesish DOes gunwathing require a special setting? DOYD of "special setting". I'd say yope

Does it take at least two people to gunwath (that is, if there was just one person and you, could that one person still gunwath)? no, one person is enough.
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do they interrupt you?disagree with you? act like they know better than you? like they already know what you're telling them? do they gunwath in response to something you have said? when you are explaining something? in answer to a question from you? is it answering a rhetorical question?
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do they interrupt you?disagree with you? act like they know better than you? like they already know what you're telling them? no to all
do they gunwath in response to something you have said? yes when you are explaining something? no in answer to a question from you? YES! is it answering a rhetorical question? no

By the way, my mum gunwathed a moment ago. And I'm sure that some of you have done it as well...
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Is it always the same question?

is the answer meant to provoke you?
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Is it always the same question? no, but it's always the same type of question. Explore.

is the answer meant to provoke you? Usually not
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Does the question relate to them (such as "do you like this?")
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Does the question relate to them (such as "do you like this?") no
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Is it a question you usually ask? is it about what they can see in your centre? do you ask them to imagine something?
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Is it a question you usually ask? yes is it about what they can see in your centre? no do you ask them to imagine something? no
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RECAP

Gunwathing is a way to respond to a certain kind of question. You can gunwath intentionally, but most people do it accidentally, often because they lack specific knowledge.
In my case, gunwathing annoys me because it works against my intention to teach people something.
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is it a yes/no question? is iyt aimed at the visitors? do you want them to answer it at all? does the question ask about their knowledge of what you are telling them? does it contain the word 'who 'what' 'when' 'why' 'where' 'how'?
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is it a yes/no question? is iyt aimed at the visitors? do you want them to answer it at all? does the question ask about their knowledge of what you are telling them? does it contain the word 'who 'what' 'when' 'why' 'where' 'how'?
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is it a yes/no question? no is iyt aimed at the visitors? yes do you want them to answer it at all? yes does the question ask about their knowledge of what you are telling them? yesish does it contain the word 'who 'what' 'when' 'why' 'where' 'how'? it contains "how", but that's not the whole question word.
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how long? how far?
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how long? how far? it could be "how long"; "how far" is less likely. It's usually "how much" or "how many"
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do they get the answer correct? do they guess? do they misunderstand the question? does their answer ruin what you are about to tell them?
do you ask them the question and then give the answer if they don't know?
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do people generally know the answer? not know it? make a guess? guess correctly? guess based on false assumptions? guess wildly wrongly?
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do they get the answer correct? no do they guess? yes do they misunderstand the question? no does their answer ruin what you are about to tell them? yes
do you ask them the question and then give the answer if they don't know? yes

do people generally know the answer? depends. Maybe I should add a clarification: I don't expect them to know the answer, I just want them to guess it. This is somewhat important not know it? depends as well make a guess? yes guess correctly? no guess based on false assumptions? no guess wildly wrongly? sometimes

Ok, so we've determined that people are supposed to either know or guess the answer to a "How much?" question. How can guessing ruin what I am about to tell them?
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is it because you want to wow them with some stupendous fact and if they guess wildly high it can ruin the impact of the true answer?
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,is it because you want to wow them with some stupendous fact and if they guess wildly high it can ruin the impact of the true answer? Exactly! We have a winner! Time for the long-awaited

********SPOILER********
gunwath stands for "guess a number way too high.
It occurs when you ask someone to guesstimate a number in order to cause a wow effect, but they guess a ridiculously high number and therefore ruin the surprise.

(For example, I ask a group of children "How many kg of paper does a German use each year?" and they answer something like "A million kg!" because they haven't developed a concept of large quantities yet. But it can also happen with adults as my mum showed me lately. I asked her the same question and she gunwathed 5 tons. So I was like, "Mum you use more than 10 kg of paper a day?!")


Gunwathing has a neologistic counterpart, coined by Peter365 a while ago:
Hagtras (v): to guess an amount lower than the actual deal that someone is bragging about receiving.

Thanks for playing and congrats to Enjay, Sundowner and especialy Shez for the final questions!

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