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Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Last Saturday I was fined by the police.

What did I do?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 5:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I assume "I" - you (Rbruma), "fined" = monetary penalty, "police" - cops, correct?

Now that that's out of the way...

Did you break a law? Did the police think you broke a law?
Amount of the fine relevant?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 9:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I assume "I" - you (Rbruma), "fined" = monetary penalty, "police" - cops, correct? Yes to all

Now that that's out of the way...

Did you break a law? Did the police think you broke a law? Yope. In my thinking, no, they however sense that I did.
Amount of the fine relevant? No
Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 9:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it traffic-related?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 9:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it traffic-related? No
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 3:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the alleged crime (would it be fair to call it a crime?) committed in public? Littering relevant?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 8:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the alleged crime (would it be fair to call it a crime? No, as in killing somebody. For me -- was not anything, by their opinion, however, it was a minor infraction ) committed in public? No Littering relevant? No
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 9:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did it relate to: your behaviour? Did it involve interfering with any objects?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 9:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did it relate to: your behaviour? YES Did it involve interfering with any objects? ...and Yessish
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 9:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you do something? say something? damage something?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 10:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you do something? Yes - Beware FA say something? Yes damage something? Nothing was damaged
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*** SMALL BLOOPER ALERT ***

The question about my "crime" being done in public should receive a YOPE instead of a NO
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 10:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you actually commit what you were blamed for? And, unlike the cops, judged it rather innocent?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 10:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you actually commit what you were blamed for? Well, I think I didn't And, unlike the cops, judged it rather innocent? And yes - Don't think big things, I didn't steal, kill or damage anything. : - )
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 10:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was your alleged offence against property? people? public decency?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was your alleged offence against property? people? public decency? This is closest, but not quite. The rest are a no
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 11:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So no mooning or indecent exposure relevant, right?

Was the lurking FA related to the fact that you actually DIDN't do it?

DId you say you did do it?

Time/place relevant?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 11:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So no mooning or indecent exposure relevant, right? No

Was the lurking FA related to the fact that you actually DIDN't do it? Yes - or at least in my opinion

DId you say you did do it? The fact - yes. I didn't think that this can be categorized as an infraction

Time/place relevant? Last Saturday, in my neighborhood, in which I work. Not really relevant
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 11:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

DId the activity involve your/someone else's property?

Was it something you would do regularly?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 12:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

DId the activity involve your/someone else's property? Someone else's

Was it something you would do regularly? Not sure how to respond. What I did, was my first time. However, it is about a regular activity
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 12:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you touch the property? Trespass?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 12:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you touch the property? Trespass? Not at all.

In fact - HINT - I called the police. And I ended up fined, plus a reputation of a wrongdoer. No person, animal, thing, or ET life was harmed.
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 12:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*** BLOOPER ALERT ***

I did touch the "property". My mistake.
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 12:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a movable property? Lost?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 12:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a movable property? Yes Lost? Fortunately, no
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 1:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they think you were stealing it? Damaging it? Handling it in some illicit way?

Was it larger than: an orange? A football?

Did it belong to one specific person?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 1:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they think you were stealing it? Damaging it? Handling it in some illicit way? No

Was it larger than: an orange? A football? To shorten the story, it was my laptop

Did it belong to one specific person? No, to the company
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 1:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the laptop on? Were you looking at it/writing on it?

If so, did you do it while walking? And the police assumed that it was dangerous?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 1:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there a virus on the computer? Was anything else wrong with it?
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 2:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you call the police because there was something wrong with your laptop? Did you see something on your laptop which made you call the police? Did you watch a webcam and noticed a burglary going on? and got fined for invading other's privacy?
More general: is the reason why you called the police related to your laptop? is the reason why you got fined related to your laptop? did you get fined for downloading something?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 2:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the laptop on?
yes Were you looking at it/writing on it? No

If so, did you do it while walking? And the police assumed that it was dangerous? No
Was there a virus on the computer? Was anything else wrong with it? The laptop - from where I answer now -- is ok and never have been endangered

Did you call the police because there was something wrong with your laptop? Yope, maybe a FA Did you see something on your laptop which made you call the police?No Did you watch a webcam and noticed a burglary going on? No, but it is OTRT and got fined for invading other's privacy?No
More general: is the reason why you called the police related to your laptop? Yes is the reason why you got fined related to your laptop? did you get fined for downloading something? Not this kind of thing. Simpler
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 2:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For bothering the police in vain?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 3:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For bothering the police in vain? Yes, and we have winner. A short story follows

**** SPOILER *****

Last Saturday I was called at work for a project. While working for it, I felt the urge to eat something. While at the location,thinking in my usual habit at the work, I forgot that I left my laptop at the office.

After a short conversation with the manager of the place, I called the police. I properly identified myself, I conducted him to my workplace, I identified the laptop as being mine (thus resuming the work)

... and get fined for "unproper use of emergency services".

Next time, if I get something like a stroke, I'll stay quiet. Maybe they will fine me for a bad diagnostic!

(The whole "adventure" was less than 10 minutes, it was a legitimate concern - albeit wrong - and, while solved, ended the puzzle)
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 3:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...I can see cops can be stupid all over the world... I hope the fine was not too painful..

anyway, thanks for the puzzle!
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 12:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, Alhucema, for the puzzle solving. I am still at odds with those kind of morons and forgot to thank you
Biograd (Biograd)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 8:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't get the story? So you were out somewhere (i.e. at a restaurant) eating and thought that you had brought the laptop with you, so when it wasn't there you figured it had been stolen? when in fact you had simply left it in your office?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 9:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't get the story? So you were out somewhere (i.e. at a restaurant) eating and thought that you had brought the laptop with you, so when it wasn't there you figured it had been stolen? when in fact you had simply left it in your office?

Yes, that was the case. I sometimes take the laptop with me at the restaurant. In that specific occasion, I didn't take it, but somehow I forget that fact (I had an important project due by the end of the day and a stolen laptop would have cost me the project and the job. I panicked) Fearful that I might have taken it and it was stolen, I called the police to solve the facts. I was fined.

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