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Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2505 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 5:55 pm: |      |
You can, we can't. Hang on. Please. Soon there will be time for you to rest. Otherwise, the rest would be eternal. |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2113 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 9:02 am: |      |
Casablanca relevant? WW2? Any other war? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2511 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 9:08 am: |      |
Casablanca relevant? No WW2? No Any other war? No |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2117 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 10:32 am: |      |
Crime relevant? you #1 = you #2? Hang on = wait a little time? Or maybe hanged in a tree? "the rest would be eternal" as in "you will be dead"? Some other meaning? (Maybe, you'll love me forever but you won't have the chance to see me again?) |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2514 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 10:34 am: |      |
Crime relevant? No you #1 = you #2? Yes Hang on = wait a little time? This Or maybe hanged in a tree? No "the rest would be eternal" as in "you will be dead"?This Some other meaning? (Maybe, you'll love me forever but you won't have the chance to see me again?)No |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2121 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 11:00 am: |      |
We - number relevant? If so: more than two, more than 3, more than 10, more than a million? The man/woman saying the phrase: An actual person? A person from the movies? Is it from your imagination? From some else's? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2517 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 11:08 am: |      |
We - number relevant? Not really If so: more than two, more than 3, more than 10, more than a million? Let us say from several tens to a hundred The man/woman saying the phrase: An actual person? A person from the movies? It could have been said by any of the "we" group, although some of them were more likely to say it than others Is it from your imagination? From some else's? This - it is from a short story I read (and liked) |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2125 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 12:32 pm: |      |
Nationality of the persons - relevant? (the "we") |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2522 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 12:39 pm: |      |
Nationality of the persons - relevant? (the "we") Not really |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2129 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 12:58 pm: |      |
Was the person referenced in a terminal ill condition? Did he needed a rest? Did he loose too much sleep? Were the other persons (the "we") much more resilient to the conditions he was facing? Can we call him Martin? If so, is Martin H/A/M? The "Please" means that the "we" and Martin are friends? Co-workers? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2524 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 1:08 pm: |      |
Was the person referenced in a terminal ill condition? No Did he needed a rest? Eventually, yes Did he loose too much sleep? Eventually, yes Were the other persons (the "we") much more resilient to the conditions he was facing? No Can we call him Martin? Sure If so, is Martin HYes/ANo/MYes? The "Please" means that the "we" and Martin are friends? Co-workers? Neither |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2131 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 1:25 pm: |      |
So Martin was a teenager? A little child? A toddler? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2526 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 1:38 pm: |      |
So Martin was a teenager? A little child? A toddler? He is nine |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2134 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 2:45 pm: |      |
Aham. The persons telling him this - relatives? Did he have a panic attack? Was he watching a football game (or some other game with a large audience?)? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2528 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2012 - 2:53 pm: |      |
Aham. The persons telling him this - relatives? NoDid he have a panic attack? Was he watching a football game (or some other game with a large audience?)? Neither |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2136 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 9:18 am: |      |
Did he distract the adults in some way? And the phrase was mostly said as a joke?) (I am thinking for ex. at a fishing lake, where the kid might have distracted the people fishing) Is it something more to be found out about Martin (besides what is already established)? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2537 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2012 - 3:47 pm: |      |
Did he distract the adults in some way? Um, a difficult question. I think the best answer would be a Yope And the phrase was mostly said as a joke?) But definitely not this, it was serious (I am thinking for ex. at a fishing lake, where the kid might have distracted the people fishing) Is it something more to be found out about Martin (besides what is already established)? Yes |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1637 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - 12:47 pm: |      |
Did Martin misbehave? Were the people speaking responsible for Martin in any way? Did Martin want the speakers to do something? Was Martin in danger? Did the situation happen indoors? outdoors? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2549 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 - 8:28 pm: |      |
Did Martin misbehave? No Were the people speaking responsible for Martin in any way? Yes to yesish Did Martin want the speakers to do something? No Was Martin in danger? Yes Did the situation happen indoors? outdoors? This |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1640 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2012 - 1:09 pm: |      |
Was Martin willing to do something and the speakers wanted him not to do it? Did Martin's life/health depend on his being calm? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2555 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 9:32 am: |      |
Was Martin willing to do something and the speakers wanted him not to do it? Noish Did Martin's life/health depend onYes his being calm? but not this |
Redwine (Redwine)
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Post Number: 1643 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 10:32 am: |      |
Did Martin's life/health depend on Martin's action? Speakers' action? Could Martin safely move? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2556 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 11:40 am: |      |
Did Martin's life/health depend on Martin's action? Yes Speakers' action? Yes Could Martin safely move? Yope, DOYD of "safely move" |
Rogerchang (Rogerchang)
New member Username: Rogerchang
Post Number: 50 Registered: 9-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 2:05 pm: |      |
The speaker and Martin were stuck somewhere? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2557 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 8:25 pm: |      |
The speaker and Martin were stuck somewhere? Exactly so |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 413 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 2:54 pm: |      |
Is Martin's size relevant? His weight? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2560 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 2:59 pm: |      |
Is Martin's size relevant? His weight? Neither |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 414 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 3:16 pm: |      |
Was there some physical property of Marin that was the reason why "he could" and they couldn't? Or was it the nature of the situation he was in? Or some talent/skill of his? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2561 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 4:05 pm: |      |
Was there some physical property of Marin that was the reason why "he could" and they couldn't? No Or was it the nature of the situation he was in? Yes Or some talent/skill of his? Yes Very good questions! |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 415 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 7:28 pm: |      |
Was this talent/skill of Martin's something he had learned to do? Or something he naturally knew how to do? Was it an unusual skill for somebody to know? Unusual for a nine-year-old? Something that called for physical strength? Or mental concentration? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2562 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, October 28, 2012 - 7:43 pm: |      |
Was this talent/skill of Martin's something he had learned to do? Yes Or something he naturally knew how to do? No Was it an unusual skill for somebody to know? Yosh to yope; I am pretty sure a lot of LTPFers possess the skill as well; however there is little more to it for you yet to find Unusual for a nine-year-old? Yesish because of his low age, otherwise the same answer as in the previous question applies Something that called for physical strength?No Or mental concentration? Noish |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 416 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 3:48 pm: |      |
Does this skill involve any tools/instruments apart from one's own body? Do you use your whole body to do it? Part of it? Hands? Arms? Feet? Legs? Torso? Head? Do you use your voice? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2566 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 4:51 pm: |      |
Does this skill involve any tools/instruments apart from one's own body? Yes Do you use your whole body to do it? Part of it? This Hands? Yes Arms? Yesish Feet? Legs? Torso? Yesish Head? Yes Do you use your voice? I assume no |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1645 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 10:20 am: |      |
Does this skill require computer? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2571 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 10:35 am: |      |
Does this skill require computer? No |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3508 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 5:36 pm: |      |
playing the piano? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2572 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 5:37 pm: |      |
playing the piano? No but OTRT |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1646 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 11:50 am: |      |
Is it a true story? Was Martin required to play a tune? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2578 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 5:28 pm: |      |
Is it a true story? It is based on a short story I read Was Martin required to play a tune? YES! Very much OTRT. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2579 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 5:35 pm: |      |
Is it a true story? It is based on a short story I read Was Martin required to play a tune? YES! Very much OTRT. |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 3236 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 8:08 pm: |      |
Recap, please? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3529 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 10:01 pm: |      |
is the instrument a wind instrument? string? percussion? was his playing an accompaniment? was it distracting someone or something and keeping him out of danger? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2580 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 8:22 am: |      |
Recap, please? Sorry I can't at the moment - just peeping in and must be running again - but I did not overlook your question, maybe later is the instrument a wind instrument? This; actually, it is a trumpetstring? percussion? was his playing an accompaniment? Nowas it distracting someone or something No and keeping him out of danger? but yes |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3534 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 3:54 pm: |      |
did the sound of the trumpet mask another sound? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 3242 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 10:23 pm: |      |
no problem, I understand. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2581 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 7:19 pm: |      |
did the sound of the trumpet mask another sound? No but OTRT |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2582 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 7:30 pm: |      |
Noel, here goes your RECAP: Martin – a nine year old boy - is required to play a tune on his trumpet for some more time, although he is very tired. His life and limb depends on it as well as those of several tens/a hundred of people. He is stuck somewhere outdoors yet he can move relatively safely. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17848 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 8:27 pm: |      |
Is he trumpeting a battlefield signal? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 3249 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 11:08 pm: |      |
thanks! What is important: that HE is playing the trumpet? Or that someone (anyone) is playing the trumpet? Does he need to be heard by someone nearby? Far away? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2583 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 7:38 am: |      |
Is he trumpeting a battlefield signal? No What is important: that HE is playing the trumpet? Given the circumstances, yes Or that someone (anyone) is playing the trumpet? In theory, anyone would do, but again, given the circumstances, only Martin could do it relevantly Does he need to be heard by someone nearby? Yope; definitely worth exploring Far away? No |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 3250 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 3:18 pm: |      |
Does he need to be SEEN playing by someone nearby? (rather than heard)? Does he need to be heard by someone who is at a moderate distance (neither near nor far)? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2584 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 5:09 pm: |      |
Does he need to be SEEN playing by someone nearby? (rather than heard)? Does he need to be heard by someone who is at a moderate distance (neither near nor far)? Neither.. perhaps the YOPE for "does he need to be heard by someone nearby" should have rather been a NO, but there is something tricky to it which is worth exploring |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1747 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 6:20 pm: |      |
Is there an animal involved? Is his playing keeping a dangerous animal at bay? Having some physical effect on the landscape? Is it acting as some kind of signal? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3540 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 9:35 pm: |      |
are the ones who will be saved inside? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3541 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 9:39 pm: |      |
does he have to be heard by something rather than somebody? an animal? a fantasy animal? is the playing keeping someone/something asleep? is it keeping something up in the air? |
Solo1 (Solo1)
New member Username: Solo1
Post Number: 291 Registered: 5-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 - 3:05 am: |      |
Anything from the Bible relevant? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2585 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 7:15 pm: |      |
Is there an animal involved? No Is his playing keeping a dangerous animal at bay? No Having some physical effect on the landscape? Yesish, DOYD of "landscape" Is it acting as some kind of signal? Yesish, worth exploring are the ones who will be saved inside? DOYD of "inside" does he have to be heard by something rather than somebody? Yes, with svv of "heard" an animal? a fantasy animal? but neither of these is the playing keeping someone/something asleep? No is it keeping something up in the air?No Anything from the Bible relevant? No |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 3259 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 7:54 pm: |      |
Is the "something" that needs to "hear" him play alive? is it a machine? is it electronic? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2586 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 8:45 pm: |      |
Is the "something" that needs to "hear" him play alive? Yes is it a machine? Yesish is it electronic? Not quite sure about that; given the story happens in the early 20th century, I'd rathe assume no |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 1754 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 9:38 am: |      |
Is it a recording device? Something that detects vibrations? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2588 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 5:12 pm: |      |
Is it a recording device? No Something that detects vibrations?Yesish, and very much OTRT |
Noel (Noel)
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Post Number: 3261 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 9:46 pm: |      |
So it's alive, but not an animal, correct? And not a person? Is it a plant? hitting a wall on how something can be both alive and yesishly a machine...will be interesting to see where this goes |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2589 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 10:54 pm: |      |
So it's alive, but not an animal, correct? Sorry, that's a BLOOPER on my side - I misread your question as "needs him play alive" rather than "is the something alive". So the correct answer should have been "no, the something that needs to "hear" him is not alive". Sorry again for thatAnd not a person? Is it a plant? hitting a wall on how something can be both alive and yesishly a machine...will be interesting to see where this goes |
Noel (Noel)
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Post Number: 3263 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 2:07 am: |      |
thanks for the clarification! It was probably a badly worded question Does the "something" control a trap/cage/barrier? A locking mechanism? A physically dangerous mechanism? |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 1211 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 5:46 pm: |      |
is the reason Martin is the only one who can play the trumpet: that no one else learned playing the trumpet? no one else learned to play well enough? no one else has physical access to the trumpet? to a certain place where the trumpet must be played? no one else would be able to hold the trumpet? no one else would be able to raise the trumpet to his mouth? no one else would be able to breath into the trumpet with sufficient strength? If Martin failed, would he and the others all die from the same cause? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2590 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 8:35 pm: |      |
thanks for the clarification! It was probably a badly worded question Does the "something" control a trap/cage/barrier? A locking mechanism? A physically dangerous mechanism? Neither but OTRT s the reason Martin is the only one who can play the trumpet: that no one else learned playing the trumpet? no one else learned to play well enough?This is closest, and a little more to it no one else has physical access to the trumpet? to a certain place where the trumpet must be played? no one else would be able to hold the trumpet? no one else would be able to raise the trumpet to his mouth? no one else would be able to breath into the trumpet with sufficient strength? If Martin failed, would he and the others all die from the same cause? Very likely, assume yes |
Noel (Noel)
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Post Number: 3277 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 12:59 am: |      |
Did he have to be able to play a certain rhythm? a particular note? Did the "something" control a security alarm? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2591 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 7:05 am: |      |
Did he have to be able to play a certain rhythm? a particular note? This Did the "something" control a security alarm? Not exactly but very close |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 1794 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 12:33 pm: |      |
Did it need to be a very high note? Very low? Very loud? Quiet? Was it just a single note? |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 1217 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 1:38 pm: |      |
If Martin failed, would they die from Freezing? Burning? Poisoning? Starvation? Thirst? Trauma? Wounds? Asphyxiation? Drowning? Disease? Electric shock? Strangulation? If Martin succeded, would this enable them to save themselves? Cause others to help them? Are they somewhere in the mountains? On the coast? On sea? Some other body of water? In the woods? Fields? Meadows? In a village? Town? City? Any caves or mines relevant? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 2594 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 4:54 pm: |      |
Did it need to be a very high note? Not exactly thisVery low? ditto Very loud? It did have to be loud but this was not the main reason Quiet? Was it just a single note? Possibly - or it might have been several If Martin failed, would they die from Freezing? Likely Burning? Poisoning? Starvation? Thirst? Trauma? Wounds? Asphyxiation? Drowning? Most likely Disease? Electric shock? Strangulation? If Martin succeded, would this enable them to save themselves? This Cause others to help them? Are they somewhere in the mountains? On the coast? On sea? This; no to the rest Some other body of water? In the woods? Fields? Meadows? In a village? Town? City? Any caves or mines relevant? Very good questions! |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 1796 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 5:18 pm: |      |
Did it need to be a precise note? Are resonant frequencies relevant? Do they need to break glass? Are they on a ship? Is the ship sinking? Do they need to attract help with the trumpet? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 2595 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 7:20 pm: |      |
Did it need to be a precise note? Yes Are resonant frequencies relevant? Possibly - I am afraid I do not understand the principle of these enough to be able to give a clear answer Do they need to break glass? No Are they on a ship?Yes! Is the ship sinking? No Do they need to attract help with the trumpet? Noish, DOYD of help |
Noel (Noel)
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Post Number: 3280 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 7:42 pm: |      |
Are they on a life boat? Or a full sized boat/ship? Has there been an accident? Is a lighthouse relevant? A lock-and-dam mechanism? Is the "something" that has to "hear" the sound on the boat? Or off it? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 2596 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 7:52 pm: |      |
Are they on a life boat? No Or a full sized boat/ship? Yes Has there been an accident? Not exactly, but... Is a lighthouse relevant? A lock-and-dam mechanism? Neither Is the "something" that has to "hear" the sound on the boat? Or off it? This |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 1218 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 12:28 am: |      |
Is the "something" on another ship? Floating in the water? On the ground of the sea? On the shore? Lighthouses relevant? Another kind of maritime signalling? Is there more than one relevant ship? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 2597 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 1:18 am: |      |
Is the "something" on another ship? No Floating in the water? Yes On the ground of the sea?No On the shore?No Lighthouses relevant? Noish to yope Another kind of maritime signalling? Yes! Is there more than one relevant ship? No |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 1222 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 11:28 am: |      |
Is the "something" a buoy? Installed on a buoy? Does the sound of the trumpet switch on certain signals? Which tell the people on the ship where to go? Where NOT to go? Should there normally be a device on the ship which would make the sound now produced by the trumpet? But in the case of the relevant ship, it is missing? Broken? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 2598 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 7:08 pm: |      |
Is the "something" a buoy? Yes! Installed on a buoy? Possibly but let us assume it's just the buoy Does the sound of the trumpet switch on certain signals? Yes! Which tell the people on the ship where to go? Where NOT to go? Yes Should there normally be a device on the ship which would make the sound now produced by the trumpet? Yesish But in the case of the relevant ship, it is missing? Yes Broken? No Now you are almost there. If you resume what happened, I'll gladly spoyle. |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 1226 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 9:37 pm: |      |
OK, I take it that there is a ship navigating in dangerous waters where signals (lights?) are used (always? at night? when there is fog?) to tell the crew where to go and which areas to avoid. These signals don't work permanently but are triggered by a sound approaching ships make using a certain device (does the device has the purpose of making such sounds? usually used for something else but also making the sound, e.g. an engine?). But this ship doesn't have the needed device, so the signals don't work and they are in danger to be shipwrecked and drown or freeze in the cold waters. Their only hope is Martin, a nine-years-old boy who plays the trumpet well and is able to make a sound which turns on the signals. The journey in the dangerous area takes considerable time and the boy has to play the trumpet again and again to keep the signals on. Eventually he gets tired, but as no one else can play the right sound on the trumpet he has to "hang on" and keep playing in order to save the ship and all the people on it. Didn't they know they would come to the dangerous area? Expect to reach it under more favorable conditions (e.g. better sight)? Or didn't they know about the need to switch on the signals by a sound? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 2600 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 11:01 pm: |      |
This is spot on, and here goes the ************SPOILER******** This story happened sometimes between the world wars. Martin is a nine-year-old boy who is returning with his mother – a famous Russian singer - from the U.S. to Europe. The journey is long, the boy is bored, and he entertains both himself and the other passengers and crew by playing his trumpet (which he is pretty well good at thanks to his musical genes). The song he likes most is the Moscow izvozchik’s song (an izvozchik is a sort of a horsecart cabbie from the old times). When they get near the Faroe Islands, the weather gets bad and a thick fog falls.To make things even worse, their radio fails; given the strong wind, the fog and the fact there are no lighthouses on the shore and it is getting dark, the ship is at serious risk of colliding with a rock and sinking. All in a sudden, one of the sailors hears a strange sound. It is the boy on the ship’s bow who is playing his favourite tune on his trumpet. The sailor is about to send him back to his cabin when he perceives two tones from the sea which seem to answer the sound of the boy’s trumpet. He asks the boy to play again; and again, two distant notes are heard from the sea. The sailor calls the captain and the chief officer, and they make the boy play the tune again and again, and the two notes are resounding either closer or farther. The captain is therefore able to tell the helmsman how to steer the ship safe through the dangerous area near the Faroe Islands. Martin has to play his song until dawn when the fog disperses and the visibility is good enough to navigate the normal way. It appears that several weeks earlier, the British had introduced new acoustic buoys which respond to a certain sound frequency. British ships were equipped with special whistles but Martin’s ship was not British and therefore did not have any such device. However, Martin’s song happened to contain just the right combination of tones to save the lives of all the passengers, including himself. Thanks everybody for puzzling, and especially Markobr for not giving up the ship and sailing right through to the correct answer! |
Markobr (Markobr)
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Post Number: 1229 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 9:21 pm: |      |
Great puzzle! Thank you, Alhucema. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 2603 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 7:09 am: |      |
Thank you for puzzling. I am glad you liked it. Actually, I loved the story and I just had to share :-)) |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 5796 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 8:24 am: |      |
*before going to bed, finds Alhucema's bejeweled ice pick which seems to have been lost in the Archives, and gives it back to Alhucema* this was a lovely puzzle, but I miss woubit puzzles...anyone think we'll have a woubit Christmas puzzle this year? O.o also, British ships are wonderful. The British and British products are wonderful in general to me and woubit is British so he is wonderful too. (And Enjay-the-Devoner, despite getting cream teas wrong. Ok, now I am rambling so I am DEFINITELY heading off now. Goodnight, everyone.) |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
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Post Number: 1163 Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 3:02 pm: |      |
Oh, I hope so...I've never gotten to participate in a woubit Christmas puzzle. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17943 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 5:06 pm: |      |
Only if woubit shows up; he hasn't been around for... I don't remember how long. It would be nice; we never finished the 2011 one and it's been booted from Limbo. |