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Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 1460 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 5:26 pm: |      |
This equals 13 and that equals 13 too, but they are each 13 for two other reasons. |
Solo1 (Solo1)
New member Username: Solo1
Post Number: 299 Registered: 5-2012
| | Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 5:45 pm: |      |
13 people? animals? inanimate objects? 13 as a number? a date? Card games relevant? any other game? |
Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum
Post Number: 428 Registered: 2-2012
| | Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 7:21 pm: |      |
"13" the character on House MD (An American TV series) relevant? Friday the 13th relevant? 13 as in the decimal number? 13th item on a list? Mathematics relevant? Is it the words "this" and "that" in themselves that equal 13 (in other words no other context is needed)? (Ah, just noticed you said two "other" reasons, not "different" reasons). So, they are each 13 for two other reasons... Does this mean that both "this" and "that" equals 13 for a total of three reasons (the first reason plus two others)? Are the reasons for "this" and "that" equalling 13 the same for both? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 1461 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 10:52 pm: |      |
13 people? no animals? no inanimate objects? no 13 as a number? this a date? Card games relevant? no any other game? no "13" the character on House MD (An American TV series) relevant? no Friday the 13th relevant? no 13 as in the decimal number? yes 13th item on a list? no Mathematics relevant? yes Is it the words "this" and "that" in themselves that equal 13 (in other words no other context is needed)? no (Ah, just noticed you said two "other" reasons, not "different" reasons). So, they are each 13 for two other reasons... Does this mean that both "this" and "that" equals 13 for a total of three reasons (the first reason plus two others)? yes Are the reasons for "this" and "that" equalling 13 the same for both? yes |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4371 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 10:55 pm: |      |
Ooh I think I know this but I won't spoil. I was looking for an e-mail address in your profile without success but have to say that it's one very entertaining read |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17883 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 10:56 pm: |      |
I know this one; I'll stay out of it. |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 1462 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 11:18 pm: |      |
Ooh I think I know this but I won't spoil. thanks I know this one; I'll stay out of it. thanks |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 2867 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 3:14 pm: |      |
Relevant that 13 is a prime number? Roman numbers relevant? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 1463 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 4:35 pm: |      |
Relevant that 13 is a prime number? Roman numbers relevant? no to both |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 1209 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 5:19 pm: |      |
Mathematics is relevant: Pure mathematics? Applied? Is 13 the solution to two mathematical problems? The result of two calculations? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 1464 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 6:55 pm: |      |
Mathematics is relevant: Pure mathematics? yes Applied? no Is 13 the solution to two mathematical problems? The result of two calculations? yes to both |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 1213 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 7:15 pm: |      |
Does the first calculation include addition? Substraction? Multiplication? Division? Exponentiation? Taking of a root? A logarithm? Integration? Differentiation? Limits relevant? Does the calculation include natural numbers? Negative numbers? Fractions? Irrational numbers? Imaginary numbers? Transfinite numbers? Same for the second calculation. Have "this" and "that" something in common which accounts for them both equaling 13? Or is it (as far as we know) a case of pure coincidence? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 1465 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 7:22 pm: |      |
Does the first calculation include addition? yes Substraction? Multiplication? Division? Exponentiation? Taking of a root? A logarithm? Integration? Differentiation? Limits relevant? none of these Does the calculation include natural numbers? yes Negative numbers? Fractions? Irrational numbers? Imaginary numbers? Transfinite numbers? none of these Same for the second calculation. yes Have "this" and "that" something in common which accounts for them both equaling 13? yope, FA lurking Or is it (as far as we know) a case of pure coincidence? don't think there is anything really coincidental about pure math. it either is or is not....maybe rephrase? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 1214 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 8:00 pm: |      |
So we have two n-tuples of natural numbers whose sums both turn out to be 13? Is it relevant whether 0 is a natural number? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 1466 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 11:16 pm: |      |
So we have two n-tuples of natural numbers whose sums both turn out to be 13? yes Is it relevant whether 0 is a natural number? no, zero not involved |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 1073 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 6:07 pm: |      |
The written words (as in, one as opposed to 1) relevant? I have an idea, but I don't want to spoyle too early. |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 1467 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 7:04 pm: |      |
The written words (as in, one as opposed to 1) relevant? yes I have an idea, but I don't want to spoyle too early. ok |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 1216 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 11:35 pm: |      |
Is the written word "plus" relevant? |
Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum
Post Number: 434 Registered: 2-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 2:53 am: |      |
Numbers assigned to letters relevant? (As in A=1, B=2, etc?) "This" and "That" - are the words themselves relevant? Would the puzzle work as well, if instead of using "this" and "that", you used "the first thing" and "the second thing" Would this puzzle still make sense if this entire thread were in Spanish? Russian? Chinese? Are Match-sticks involved? Is 13=13 one of the three reasons? Does only one of the reasons involve addition? Do exactly two of the reasons involve addition? Exactly all three? Is "this" a day in history? Is "this" related to a calendar? Are phones relevant? Does "this" represeant an Animal? Mineral? Vegetable? Does it exist in consensus reality? (same questions for "that" is you don't mind.) |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 2114 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 2:06 am: |      |
Ah, I think I got it. Anagrams relevant? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 1468 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 3:03 pm: |      |
Is the written word "plus" relevant? yes Numbers assigned to letters relevant? (As in A=1, B=2, etc?) no "This" and "That" - are the words themselves relevant? no Would the puzzle work as well, if instead of using "this" and "that", you used "the first thing" and "the second thing" yes Would this puzzle still make sense if this entire thread were in Spanish? Russian? Chinese? no Are Match-sticks involved? no Is 13=13 one of the three reasons? no Does only one of the reasons involve addition? no Do exactly two of the reasons involve addition? yes Exactly all three? no Is "this" a day in history? no Is "this" related to a calendar? no Are phones relevant? no Does "this" represeant an Animal? Mineral? Vegetable? no to these Does it exist in consensus reality? what is generally agreed to be reality not some alternative consensus reality, no (same questions for "that" is you don't mind.)answers are all the same for "that" Ah, I think I got it. Anagrams relevant? yope |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 1230 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 9:38 pm: |      |
Is it relevant that the phrase "one plus twelve" contains 13 letters? The phrase "two plus eleven"? The phrase "five plus eight"? "Twelve plus one"? "Eleven plus two"? "Eight plus five"? So one reason is that the numbers add up to 13 and another that the letters of the words add up to 13? I have no idea about a third reason, however... |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 1469 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 11:21 pm: |      |
Is it relevant that the phrase "one plus twelve" contains 13 letters? yes The phrase "two plus eleven"? yes The phrase "five plus eight"? no "Twelve plus one"? yes "Eleven plus two"? yes "Eight plus five"? no So one reason is that the numbers add up to 13 and another that the letters of the words add up to 13? yes I have no idea about a third reason, however... darn |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3556 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 6:10 pm: |      |
is it that one plus twelve is an anagram of two plus eleven? |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 1470 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 9:17 pm: |      |
is it that one plus twelve is an anagram of two plus eleven? yes, the '13' is to say that they use the same 13 letters. $p0ylur to follow |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 1471 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 9:20 pm: |      |
****** SPOILER ****** This puzzle comes from Uberfacts. UberFacts þ@UberFacts "Eleven plus Two" and "Twelve plus One" equal 13, use 13 letters to spell and both use the same 13 letters. I thought it would make an interesting departure from my usual puzzles. Too bad too many people knew the answer. Drat and double drat! I will have to try harder. Thanks for the good questions! |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3557 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 7:14 pm: |      |
well I didn't know it for one! how come everyone knows this stuff? |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper
Post Number: 1165 Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2012 - 4:40 am: |      |
Well, my personal knowledge of the fact came from a book called 'The Name of This Book is Secret', in which an essential part of the plot relies on a poem based on anagrams, one of which happens to be 'eleven plus two' and 'twelve plus one'. Despite the fact that that sounds like one of those impossibly complex answers people just make up to confuse people, it's true. As a matter of fact, all I remember of that poem is that not only does eleven plus two equal twelve plus one, even a funeral can be real fun. And to go off on an even further rambling tangent (translation: leave now before I suck you into an extremely long and incredibly random story which has nothing to do whatsoever with Shez's [most likely rhetorical] question), one of those books is named 'This Isn't What it Looks Like', leading to a rather confusing conversation in which my mom attempted to find out the title of the book I was reading. Since the title is that confusing, my mom was like, but that looks like a book on your Kindle, and I suspect that it IS a book on your Kindle. Whereupon I clarified that 'This Isn't What it Looks Like' was actually the title of the book in question. (I warned you.) |