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Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 10:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Starling insulted Thundercloud in a way that traded on Thundercloud's being a Native American, but there was nothing bigoted about the insult. In fact, Starling was a Native American herself. How come?
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Is Thundercloud male? Relevant?
Are they from different tribes? Relevant?
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Is Thanksgiving relevant? (Given the time of year; yes, I know your feelings about the holiday)
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Could a non native American have insulted Thundercloud in the same way?

Relevant why Starling wanted to insult Thundercloud? Did she insult Thundercloud's intelligence? Appearance? Morals? Ability?

Are any Native American beliefs relevant? Cultural practices? Ways of life? Any aspects of Native American history? Words from Native American languages? Native American names?

Would the insult only have worked on a Native American? Are there any other groups it could work on?
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Did Starling actually want to insult Thundercloud?
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Is Thundercloud male?irrel Relevant? no
Are they from different tribes? Unlikely but possibleRelevant? yes
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Is Thanksgiving relevant? no (Given the time of year; yes, I know your feelings about the holiday)
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Could a non native American have insulted Thundercloud in the same way? yes

Relevant why Starling wanted to insult Thundercloud? yes. GOOOOD QUESTION!!!!Did she insult Thundercloud's intelligence? noAppearance? noMorals? yesAbility? no

Are any Native American beliefs relevant? see next answerCultural practices? yes Ways of life? yesAny aspects of Native American history?only insofar as it affects present practices Words from Native American languages? no Native American names? no

Would the insult only have worked on a Native American? no, but it works particularly well there Are there any other groups it could work on? yes
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Did Starling actually want to insult Thundercloud? yes
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I'm gonna refer to Thundercloud as male just to make it less confusing with two 'she's...

Had Thundercloud previously insulted Starling? Had he done something to offend her? Upset her? Something she felt was morally wrong?

Does Starling closely follow Native American cultural practices? Does Thundercloud? Relevant? Did Starling imply that Thundercloud was not acting like a native American? Was not proud to be one? Was too proud of being one?

Was there anyone else present when S insulted T?
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I'm gonna refer to Thundercloud as male just to make it less confusing with two 'she's...

Had Thundercloud previously insulted Starling? unlikely Had he done something to offend her? see next answers Upset her? yesSomething she felt was morally wrong? yes

Does Starling closely follow Native American cultural practices? irrel Does Thundercloud? ditto Relevant? no Did Starling imply that Thundercloud was not acting like a native American? no Was not proud to be one? no.By the way, why on earth should anyone be either proud or ashamed of his race or ethnicity? No race or ethnicity is either good or bad.Was too proud of being one? no

Was there anyone else present when S insulted T? irrel
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We're trying to guess the actions and motivations of two fictional, or at least unknown, characters. You can't really deny that some people are proud or ashamed of their race/ethnicity, whether or not it makes sense, so I think it was a valid question.

Had Thundercloud done something to Starling? To someone else? Had he committed a crime? Would what he did be morally wrong by most people's standards?

Did it trade on him being a Native American because he wouldn't have done the thing if he weren't? Because Starling wouldn't have thought it was wrong if he weren't? Because the insult would not have hit home?

Is it relevant to the puzzle situation that Starling is Native American?

Are Starling and Thundercloud friends? Related? Strangers? Do they have a professional relationship? Relevant?
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We're trying to guess the actions and motivations of two fictional, or at least unknown, characters. You can't really deny that some people are proud or ashamed of their race/ethnicity, whether or not it makes sense, so I think it was a valid question. Of course it is! I never said it isn't!!

Had Thundercloud done something to Starling? yope To someone else? yesishHad he committed a crime? yes Would what he did be morally wrong by most people's standards? yes

Did it trade on him being a Native American because he wouldn't have done the thing if he weren't? noBecause Starling wouldn't have thought it was wrong if he weren't? noBecause the insult would not have hit home?noish

Is it relevant to the puzzle situation that Starling is Native American? maybe a little, but she needn't be

Are Starling and Thundercloud friends? no Related? irrel Strangers? possibly Do they have a professional relationship? no Relevant? yope
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Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 10:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BLOOOOOPERRRRRALERTTTTT!! Do they have a professional relationship? no The answer should be yope
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Was the crime murder? Theft? Causing injury to someone? Drink/drug related? Driving related?

Was Thundercloud punished for his crime?
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Was the crime murder? noTheft? yesCausing injury to someone? noDrink/drug related? noDriving related? no

Was Thundercloud punished for his crime? probably not
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Was the yope-ishly professional relationship related to the crime? Such as a thief and a judge? Or am I OTWT?
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Is the insult "Indian giver" relevant?
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Was the yope-ishly professional relationship related to the crime? yope Such as a thief and a judge? that's not itOr am I OTWT? noish
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Is the insult "Indian giver" relevant? no
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The yope-ishly professional relationship that is yope-ishly related to the crime- are you considering his "profession" to be a thief?
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The yope-ishly professional relationship that is yope-ishly related to the crime- are you considering his "profession" to be a thief? no
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Is it relevant what was stolen?
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Is it relevant what was stolen? noish
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Relevant from whom he stole? Did he steal from Starling? From someone she knew? An organisation she worked for? Did she have a personal reason to be angry at Thundercloud's theft? Or was she just angry that he had done it?

Did the insult say, or imply, that he was a thief? Did it touch on his motivations for the theft? Did it include a word or phrase related to Native Americans?
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Relevant from whom he stole? yes Did he steal from Starling? yopeFrom someone she knew? yesish An organisation she worked for? yesishDid she have a personal reason to be angry at Thundercloud's theft? yesish Or was she just angry that he had done it? no

Did the insult say, or imply, that he was a thief? yes Did it touch on his motivations for the theft? noDid it include a word or phrase related to Native Americans? yope
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Did his theft involve physically removing something from somewhere? Did he embezzle from a company? Obtain money or property through other fraudulent means? Did he steal from his own employer? From an organisation related to Native Americans?

Is it relevant whether Thundercloud has any particular feelings about his being Native American? Whether he has ever encountered discrimination? Same questions for Starling please.

Did Starling lose out in some way from Thundercloud's theft? Did she lose money? Property? Her job? Was she supposed to have been responsible for stopping the theft? Had she put Thundercloud in a position of trust and been betrayed?
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Did his theft involve physically removing something from somewhere?possibly but see next answer Did he embezzle from a company? yope Obtain money or property through other fraudulent means? less likelyDid he steal from his own employer? yes From an organisation related to Native Americans? yes

Is it relevant whether Thundercloud has any particular feelings about his being Native American? irrel in both casesWhether he has ever encountered discrimination? dittoSame questions for Starling please.

Did Starling lose out in some way from Thundercloud's theft? possibly but not necessarilyDid she lose money? dittoProperty? dittoHer job? less likely Was she supposed to have been responsible for stopping the theft? no Had she put Thundercloud in a position of trust yesish or yope and been betrayed yes?
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So did Starling and Thundercloud work for the same employer? Relevant what their jobs are? Did one work for the other?

Is the organisation a charity? A cultural organisation? Museum? Is it on a Native American reservation?
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So did Starling and Thundercloud work for the same employer? possibly but not necessarilyRelevant what their jobs are? T's job is relevant, S's is not Did one work for the other? yesish

Is the organisation a charity? no A cultural organisation? yopeMuseum? no Is it on a Native American reservation? yes
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Casino?
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Casino? no
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Did she call him by someone else's name?
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Casino? no
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Did she call him by someone else's name? no
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Are any Native American languages relevant? Any well-known Native Americans? Did the insult involve a comparison? Did it include a reference that only a Native American (or someone who knew a lot about Native Americans) would get?
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Are any Native American languages relevant? no Any well-known Native Americans? no Did the insult involve a comparison? noDid it include a reference that only a Native American (or someone who knew a lot about Native Americans) would get? no
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Did Starling reference Native American history in her insult? Beliefs? Celebrations? Laws?
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Did Starling reference Native American history in her insult? Beliefs? Celebrations? Laws? no to all
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HINT: Fund out Thundercloud's job.
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He works for an organisation on a reservation, correct? Is it connected to Native American culture or practices beyond the fact that it is on a reservation?

Does his job fit into any of the following:
Artistic / musical / writer
Banking / financial / real estate
Clerical / Administrative
Computer related / Hardware
Construction / Craftsman
Criminal / Questionable Repute
Education / Academic Research
Entertainment / Media
Environmental / Outdoors / Nature
Executive / Management
Hospitality / Travel
Legal Services
Manufacturing / Distributions
Medical / Health Services
Politics / Government / Military
Sales / Marketing
Technical / Science / Engineering
Teaching / Child care
Transportation
Food Service?

Did the insult suggest he is bad at his job? Doesn't deserve his job?
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HINT: Fund out Thundercloud's job.
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He works for an organisation on a reservation, correct? Is it connected to Native American culture or practices beyond the fact that it is on a reservation?

Does his job fit into any of the following:
Artistic / musical / writer
Banking / financial / real estate
Clerical / Administrative
Computer related / Hardware
Construction / Craftsman
Criminal / Questionable Repute
Education / Academic Research
Entertainment / Media
Environmental / Outdoors / Nature
Executive / Management
Hospitality / Travel
Legal Services
Manufacturing / Distributions
Medical / Health Services
Politics / Government / Military
Sales / Marketing
Technical / Science / Engineering
Teaching / Child care
Transportation
Food Service?
politics/government

Did the insult suggest he is bad at his job? see next answerDoesn't deserve his job? yes
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Is he a politician? Does he represent his area? Is he on a council? Is he involved in the government of the reservation?
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Is he a politician? yes Does he represent his area? see next answer Is he on a council? see next answer Is he involved in the government of the reservation? yes
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Did she suggest that he had let the reservation down? Had behaved like a federal politician? Had achieved his position through false pretences? Should lose his job?
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Did she call him an Indian giver? Intended to be some slam about this politician not keeping his promises? Or keeping a promise and then de-funding the resolution?
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Did she suggest that he had let the reservation down? yesishHad behaved like a federal politician? noHad achieved his position through false pretences? no Should lose his job? yesish or yope
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Did she call him an Indian giver? no Intended to be some slam about this politician not keeping his promises? no Or keeping a promise and then de-funding the resolution? no
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Is the phrase "gone off the reservation" relevant?
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Is the phrase "gone off the reservation" relevant? no
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HINT: Find out Thundercloud's EXACT JOB TITLE.
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Does he hold an elected post? Does he sit on a particular committee? Is he the head of something? Does he hold responsibility for governing? Is he a member of congress?
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Does he hold an elected post? yes Does he sit on a particular committee?possibly Is he the head of something? yes Does he hold responsibility for governing? yesIs he a member of congress? no
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Is he a mayor? The governor of the reservation (if that's the right term, I don't know much about US government positions)? Does he hold responsibility for a particular sector (eg health, transport, education etc)? Does he campaign on a particular issue? Relevant what his political stance is?
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Is he a mayor? No but you're ORTThe governor of the reservation (if that's the right term, I don't know much about US government positions)? Well, who's the head of the reservation?? Does he hold responsibility for a particular sector (eg health, transport, education etc)? see previous answer Does he campaign on a particular issue? noRelevant what his political stance is? no
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The chief?
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The chief? Yes!!
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So her insult relied on him being the chief? Did it include the word "chief"? Did he tell him he should resign? That someone else would make a better chief? Did he refer to him by an insulting name? Did her insult reference any other chiefs?
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The chief? Yes!!
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So her insult relied on him being the chief? yes{Did it include the word "chief"? yopeDid he tell him he should resign? no That someone else would make a better chief? noDid he refer to him by an insulting name? yesish or yopeDid her insult reference any other chiefs? no
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did she make a pun on the word chief?

or use a made up chief's name? like chief cook and bottle washer?
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did she make a pun on the word chief? no, but you're ORT

or use a made up chief's name? no like chief cook and bottle washer? no
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Did she rhyme chief with thief? Or rhyme in another way?
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Did she rhyme chief with thief? No, but you're VERY ORTOr rhyme in another way? no
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Is it relevant that chief rhymes with thief? Did she call him Thief Thundercloud? Did she use a word that sounds like chief? That has 'chief' in it?
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Is it relevant that chief rhymes with thief?no Did she call him Thief Thundercloud? yesishDid she use a word that sounds like chief? see below That has 'chief' in it? no

This is close enough for me to declare a

****SPOILER ***************

When the chief of her tribe was accused of theft, Starling changed his vanity plates, which said "Superchief" to "Superthief." This comes from an incident in the book Rez Life by David Treuer. Please che4ck out my new puzzle!!

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