| Author | Message | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4804 Registered: 9-2009 |
He thought it was malfunctioning, but it turned out that his father was to blame. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18031 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he think it was malfunctioning because of a scrund? That his father gave him? Intentionally? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3608 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the thing a machine? a part of the body? | ||
| Deholmes (Deholmes)
New member Username: Deholmes Post Number: 61 Registered: 11-2012 |
Scrud=explosive missile? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4805 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he think it was malfunctioning because of a scrund? That his father gave him?yes to both Intentionally? Yes or yesish Was the thing a machine? This. a part of the body? Scrud=explosive missile? That would be a Scud. A scrund is a long held misconception that has not been corrected, for whatever reason. The word was coined in a puzzle here, a year or two ago I think. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3616 Registered: 2-2011 |
was it a machine for making things? heating or cooling? transport? generating sound? light? electrical? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4817 Registered: 9-2009 |
was it a machine for making things? heating or cooling? transport? This. generating sound? light? electrical? Partly. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3619 Registered: 2-2011 |
a car? truck? train? plane? motorbike? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4826 Registered: 9-2009 |
a car? This. truck? train? plane? motorbike? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3624 Registered: 2-2011 |
would the car not go at all? or was it making a strange noise? overheating? had his father removed a part? not refuelled it? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4847 Registered: 9-2009 |
No to all, FA | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3628 Registered: 2-2011 |
did he try to drive it? did his father? someone else? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4858 Registered: 9-2009 |
did he try to drive it? Yes, no to the rest. did his father? someone else? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3635 Registered: 2-2011 |
did the car start? did it move? did it brake properly? did it make a funny noise | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4867 Registered: 9-2009 |
did the car start? did it move? did it brake properly? Yes to all. did it make a funny noise No. FA persists. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3640 Registered: 2-2011 |
did he think the car wa malfunctioning before he got into it and tried it? had his father told him so? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4873 Registered: 9-2009 |
did he think the car wa malfunctioning before he got into it and tried it? had his father told him so? No to both. | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 452 Registered: 2-2012 |
Is this a car as in a vehicle that is used as a means of transportation on public roads? Is one specific car involved? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4876 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is this a car as in a vehicle that is used as a means of transportation on public roads? Yes. Is one specific car involved? No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3652 Registered: 2-2011 |
is this some kind of accessory that goe in a car? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4879 Registered: 9-2009 |
is this some kind of accessory that goe in a car? DYOD of "accessory". Explore. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3657 Registered: 2-2011 |
GPS? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4883 Registered: 9-2009 |
GPS? No. | ||
| Imafr33styl3r (Imafr33styl3r)
New member Username: Imafr33styl3r Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2013 |
Was it the son's car? Was the car expensive? Did the father not want the son to drive the car? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4970 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it the son's car? Yope. Was the car expensive? Irr. Did the father not want the son to drive the car? Irr. | ||
| Imafr33styl3r (Imafr33styl3r)
New member Username: Imafr33styl3r Post Number: 10 Registered: 1-2013 |
Was the son old enough to drive? Was the car unusable? Unsafe? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4985 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the son old enough to drive? When? Was the car unusable? Unsafe? No to both. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3720 Registered: 2-2011 |
had the father installed something in the car? had he done some work on the car? the engine? the brakes? is the "accessory" electric? mechanical? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5003 Registered: 9-2009 |
had the father installed something in the car? had he done some work on the car? the engine? the brakes? No to all. is the "accessory" electric? mechanical? It looks mechanical. I'm uncaracteristically ignorant as to it's actual inner workings. To Wikipedia! | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5004 Registered: 9-2009 |
Update: electric nowadays, mechanical before. Which type this is, is irrelevant. | ||
| Imafr33styl3r (Imafr33styl3r)
New member Username: Imafr33styl3r Post Number: 11 Registered: 1-2013 |
Accessory... Radio? Speakers? Does it normally come in a car? do people buy it for their car? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5007 Registered: 9-2009 |
Accessory... Radio? Speakers? No. Does it normally come in a car? Yes. do people buy it for their car? No. | ||
| Imafr33styl3r (Imafr33styl3r)
New member Username: Imafr33styl3r Post Number: 13 Registered: 1-2013 |
Windows? Powered now, they used to be hand cranked... | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5043 Registered: 9-2009 |
Windows? Powered now, they used to be hand cranked... No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3727 Registered: 2-2011 |
horn? heater? aircon? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5052 Registered: 9-2009 |
horn? No. heater? No, but closer. aircon? No. | ||
| Imafr33styl3r (Imafr33styl3r)
New member Username: Imafr33styl3r Post Number: 16 Registered: 1-2013 |
A/C? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5066 Registered: 9-2009 |
A/C? Same as aircon: no. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3729 Registered: 2-2011 |
heated seats? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5071 Registered: 9-2009 |
heated seats? No. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 751 Registered: 5-2008 |
Did his father also have the scrund? and told his son it as fact? Or did his father say something or act in some way in front of his son that his son mistook and hence developed the scrund for himself? Was it originally his father's car? inherited or otherwise passed down to the son? Does the scrund relate to some non-crucial part of the car? that exists in some cars but not all? that would usually be considered an add-on/extra? Is it a feature the son did not realise his car had? or believed was operated in a different way? or mistakenly believed his car did have? By 'heater' being close, is it correct to assume this feature is to do with some form of heating of the car? of its passenger space? seats? foot area(s)? engine? boot? windscreen(s)? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5075 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did his father also have the scrund? Probably not, but it would work if he did. and told his son it as fact? Yes. Or did his father say something or act in some way in front of his son that his son mistook and hence developed the scrund for himself? No. Was it originally his father's car? inherited or otherwise passed down to the son? Does the scrund relate to some non-crucial part of the car? Yesish. that exists in some cars but not all? AFAIK all cars have them nowadays. that would usually be considered an add-on/extra? Not nowadays. Is it a feature the son did not realise his car had?No. or believed was operated in a different way? Yesish. or mistakenly believed his car did have? Yes. By 'heater' being close, is it correct to assume this feature is to do with some form of heating of the car? Noish. of its passenger space? seats? foot area(s)? engine? Engine is relevant, no to all the others. boot? windscreen(s)? | ||
| Imafr33styl3r (Imafr33styl3r)
New member Username: Imafr33styl3r Post Number: 17 Registered: 1-2013 |
Going off the heater being close, is the accessory the A/C? Would one look under the hood to see/access the accessory? Is it inside the car? Was the scrund a habit of the father that the boy learned from him but was unrelated to the use of the accessory? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5109 Registered: 9-2009 |
Going off the heater being close, is the accessory the A/C? No. Would one look under the hood to see/access the accessory? Is it inside the car? This. Was the scrund a habit of the father that the boy learned from him but was unrelated to the use of the accessory? No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3752 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the thing something like a control? on the dashboard? heating vents? ignition? mirrors? steering wheel? gear lever? handbrake? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5110 Registered: 9-2009 |
is the thing something like a control? Not a control. on the dashboard? Yes. heating vents? ignition? mirrors? steering wheel? gear lever? handbrake? No to all. | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 456 Registered: 2-2012 |
Hmm, is this a scrund about the radiator? The radiator fan? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5113 Registered: 9-2009 |
Hmm, is this a scrund about the radiator? No, but OTRT. The radiator fan? No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3757 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it a guage? like a temperature guage? oil pressure? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5125 Registered: 9-2009 |
Yes, it's the temperature gauge. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3762 Registered: 2-2011 |
sory about the speling | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5127 Registered: 9-2009 |
No prob:-) Couldn't quote since I used my phone. Now why did he think it was malfunctioning? | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 461 Registered: 2-2012 |
Did he think it was supposed to indicate the temperature inside the passenger compartment? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5128 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he think it was supposed to indicate the temperature inside the passenger compartment? No. | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 465 Registered: 2-2012 |
Did he think the gauge was stuck, because when the car is warmed up the thermostat keeps it a roughly constant temperature? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5156 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he think the gauge was stuck, because when the car is warmed up the thermostat keeps it a roughly constant temperature? OTRT - he thought it was stuck, because he had the scrund. Explore. | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 468 Registered: 9-2006 |
Has cold weather anything to do with his scrund? So the needle of the temp gauge didn't move. Was it pointing towards "cold"? "hot"? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5157 Registered: 9-2009 |
Has cold weather anything to do with his scrund? No. So the needle of the temp gauge didn't move. Was it pointing towards "cold"? "hot"? The needle moved normally, gradually going from cold to the normal running temperature and stopping there. Because of his scrund, he thought this behavior was wrong. | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 467 Registered: 2-2012 |
So he thought that the needle should move to "hot" when the engine was fully warmed up? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5165 Registered: 9-2009 |
So he thought that the needle should move to "hot" when the engine was fully warmed up? No/FA. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5167 Registered: 9-2009 |
Clarification: there were no labels for "cold" and "hot" on the gauge. | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 482 Registered: 9-2006 |
Did he think the needle shouldn't move at all? only a little bit? Did his father think it was convenient that he had the scrund? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5204 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he think the needle shouldn't move at all? only a little bit? Botha incorrect. Did his father think it was convenient that he had the scrund? Hem probably didn't know . | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 1205 Registered: 6-2003 |
if not labels for "hot" and "cold" .. were there other labels on the gauge? colors? pictograms? labels in a different language? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5205 Registered: 9-2009 |
if not labels for "hot" and "cold" .. were there other labels on the gauge? Yes. colors? Irr. pictograms? Yes. labels in a different language? No. | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 485 Registered: 9-2006 |
When you say the temperature gauge did not have "hot" and "cold" labels you mean the words "hot" and "cold" were not there? or that there wasn't anything related to temperature? Was the gauge something like this? temperature gauge | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5212 Registered: 9-2009 |
Almost exactly like that, which is relevant. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3804 Registered: 2-2011 |
was either one of them colour blind? | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 2143 Registered: 6-2008 |
Did the father say something like that the needle should "always remain in the black region", meaning that when the engine was at its final temperature, the needle should never be in the red zone? but the son thought that meant that it should never be in the blue zone either, even when the engine was cold? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5215 Registered: 9-2009 |
was either one of them colour blind? No. Did the father say something like that the needle should "always remain in the black region", meaning that when the engine was at its final temperature, the needle should never be in the red zone? but the son thought that meant that it should never be in the blue zone either, even when the engine was cold? No to all, OTWT. | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 494 Registered: 9-2006 |
Are the pictograms relevant? Son's age relevant? Did he get a driving license? Was it the son's first time starting a car? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5220 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are the pictograms relevant? Yes. Son's age relevant? His age when he got the scrund: yope, his age when it was corrected: noish. Did he get a driving license? When the scrund was corrected: probably. Was it the son's first time starting a car? No. | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 469 Registered: 2-2012 |
Did the son know that it was a temperature gauge? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5222 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the son know that it was a temperature gauge? No, good question. | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 502 Registered: 9-2006 |
So the son thought the temp gauge was something else? Relevant to determine the specific brand/year of the car? | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 475 Registered: 2-2012 |
Galfisk, Yeah I thougth it was a good lateral question. I'll let someone else start the LTPF list of automotive dashboard gauges :-) | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 477 Registered: 2-2012 |
So was the pictogram showing the thrermometer mis-interpreted? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5224 Registered: 9-2009 |
So the son thought the temp gauge was something else? Yes. Relevant to determine the specific brand/year of the car? No. So was the pictogram showing the thermometer mis-interpreted? Yes, indeed. | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 514 Registered: 9-2006 |
Did the son think the temp gauge was the fuel tank indicator? | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 481 Registered: 2-2012 |
Or maybe a music volume indicator? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5230 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the son think the temp gauge was the fuel tank indicator? Or maybe a music volume indicator? No to both. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3401 Registered: 7-2009 |
Did he think it was supposed to measure the temperature inside the car's seating area? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5234 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he think it was supposed to measure the temperature inside the car's seating area? No. Hint: The answer is laterally connected to the pictogram. some more lateral questions will probably help more than direct guessing. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3403 Registered: 7-2009 |
Ok, was the scrund related to the red color? The blue color? The location of the color splotches? The image of the thermometer? The gauge needle? The wavy lines under the thermometer? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3839 Registered: 2-2011 |
did he think the themometer depicted represented something else? or that blue meant "up" and amber "down" because of their relative positions? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5236 Registered: 9-2009 |
Ok, was the scrund related to the red color? The blue color? The location of the color splotches? The image of the thermometer?This... The gauge needle? The wavy lines under the thermometer? ...and this. No to the rest. did he think the themometer depicted represented something else? Yes. or that blue meant "up" and amber "down" because of their relative positions? No. In fact, the scale was vertical in the gauge in his car. | ||
| Mimino (Mimino)
New member Username: Mimino Post Number: 83 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did he think the gauge shows the cooling water level? brake fluid level? antifreeze level? (confusing the thermometer with a hydrometer) | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5239 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he think the gauge shows the cooling water level? brake fluid level? antifreeze level? (confusing the thermometer with a hydrometer) No to all. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3843 Registered: 2-2011 |
did he think the wavy lines represented water? screenwash? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5242 Registered: 9-2009 |
did he think the wavy lines represented water? Yes, explore. screenwash? No. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3404 Registered: 7-2009 |
Did he think the thermometer + wavy lines represented water temperature? Did he recognize that the thermometer image was a thermometer? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5247 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he think the thermometer + wavy lines represented water temperature? Did he recognize that the thermometer image was a thermometer? No to both. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3406 Registered: 7-2009 |
Did he think the thermometer image was a ruler (to measure depth)? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5250 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he think the thermometer image was a ruler (to measure depth)? Noish to ruler, no to depth. | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 542 Registered: 9-2006 |
So the son thought the temp gauge was something that actually his car wasn't equipped with? Is this "something" available in (other) cars? If so, is it an optional item? Is it expensive? Was he driving the car? If so, did he stop it? Did he fear it could blow up? Or that it could damage the car? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5271 Registered: 9-2009 |
So the son thought the temp gauge was something that actually his car wasn't equipped with? Yes. Is this "something" available in (other) cars? Not that I know of. If so, is it an optional item? It would be. Is it expensive? Probably not. Was he driving the car? Yes. If so, did he stop it? Did he fear it could blow up? Or that it could damage the car? No to all. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5821 Registered: 9-2010 |
is it available in planes? like the banana? *remembers the banana* *is going to bed now, hopefully will have better questions tomorrow - or rather, later today* night Galfisk & fellow puzzlers | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5276 Registered: 9-2009 |
is it available in planes? like the banana? Yes to both. *remembers the banana* *is going to bed now, hopefully will have better questions tomorrow - or rather, later today* night Galfisk & fellow puzzlers. | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 553 Registered: 9-2006 |
I'm confused now. What banana are you talking about? The banana plug? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5283 Registered: 9-2009 |
The "Banana" is a skydiving airplane that has figured in some of my past puzzles. As far as I know, this thing is in all airplanes. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3872 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it the dooberry that measures the height above sea level and he thinks the wavy lines are the sea? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5291 Registered: 9-2009 |
is it the dooberry that measures the height above sea level and he thinks the wavy lines are the sea? SPOILER! Yes indeed. When he was a kid, his father joked that the temperature gauge measured height above sea level. As you can see, the pictogram could just as easily picture the sea and a height gauge. As an adult, he posted to a car forum asking what was wrong with the "altimeter" in his first car. After he posted a picture of it, they swiftly corrected his scrund. Thanks for playing, and to Shez for the solve, well done. |
