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He thought it was malfunctioning, but it turned out that his father was to blame.
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Did he think it was malfunctioning because of a scrund? That his father gave him? Intentionally?
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was the thing a machine? a part of the body?
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Scrud=explosive missile?
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Did he think it was malfunctioning because of a scrund? That his father gave him?yes to both Intentionally? Yes or yesish
Was the thing a machine? This. a part of the body?
Scrud=explosive missile? That would be a Scud. A scrund is a long held misconception that has not been corrected, for whatever reason. The word was coined in a puzzle here, a year or two ago I think.
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was it a machine for making things? heating or cooling? transport? generating sound? light?

electrical?
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was it a machine for making things? heating or cooling? transport? This. generating sound? light?

electrical? Partly.
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a car? truck? train? plane? motorbike?
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a car? This. truck? train? plane? motorbike?
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would the car not go at all? or was it making a strange noise? overheating?

had his father removed a part? not refuelled it?
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No to all, FA
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did he try to drive it? did his father? someone else?
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did he try to drive it? Yes, no to the rest. did his father? someone else?
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did the car start? did it move? did it brake properly? did it make a funny noise
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did the car start? did it move? did it brake properly? Yes to all. did it make a funny noise No.
FA persists.
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did he think the car wa malfunctioning before he got into it and tried it? had his father told him so?
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did he think the car wa malfunctioning before he got into it and tried it? had his father told him so? No to both.
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Is this a car as in a vehicle that is used as a means of transportation on public roads?
Is one specific car involved?
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Is this a car as in a vehicle that is used as a means of transportation on public roads? Yes.
Is one specific car involved? No.
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is this some kind of accessory that goe in a car?
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is this some kind of accessory that goe in a car? DYOD of "accessory". Explore.
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GPS?
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GPS? No.
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Was it the son's car? Was the car expensive? Did the father not want the son to drive the car?
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Was it the son's car? Yope. Was the car expensive? Irr. Did the father not want the son to drive the car? Irr.
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Was the son old enough to drive?

Was the car unusable? Unsafe?
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Was the son old enough to drive? When?

Was the car unusable? Unsafe? No to both.
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had the father installed something in the car?

had he done some work on the car? the engine? the brakes?

is the "accessory" electric? mechanical?
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had the father installed something in the car?

had he done some work on the car? the engine? the brakes? No to all.

is the "accessory" electric? mechanical? It looks mechanical.
I'm uncaracteristically ignorant as to it's actual inner workings. To Wikipedia!
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Update: electric nowadays, mechanical before. Which type this is, is irrelevant.
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Accessory... Radio? Speakers?
Does it normally come in a car? do people buy it for their car?
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Accessory... Radio? Speakers? No.
Does it normally come in a car? Yes. do people buy it for their car? No.
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Windows? Powered now, they used to be hand cranked...
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Windows? Powered now, they used to be hand cranked... No.
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horn? heater? aircon?
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horn? No. heater? No, but closer. aircon? No.
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A/C?
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A/C? Same as aircon: no.
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heated seats?
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heated seats? No.
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Did his father also have the scrund? and told his son it as fact? Or did his father say something or act in some way in front of his son that his son mistook and hence developed the scrund for himself?

Was it originally his father's car? inherited or otherwise passed down to the son?

Does the scrund relate to some non-crucial part of the car? that exists in some cars but not all? that would usually be considered an add-on/extra?
Is it a feature the son did not realise his car had? or believed was operated in a different way? or mistakenly believed his car did have?

By 'heater' being close, is it correct to assume this feature is to do with some form of heating of the car? of its passenger space? seats? foot area(s)? engine? boot? windscreen(s)?
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Did his father also have the scrund? Probably not, but it would work if he did. and told his son it as fact? Yes. Or did his father say something or act in some way in front of his son that his son mistook and hence developed the scrund for himself? No.

Was it originally his father's car? inherited or otherwise passed down to the son?

Does the scrund relate to some non-crucial part of the car? Yesish. that exists in some cars but not all? AFAIK all cars have them nowadays. that would usually be considered an add-on/extra? Not nowadays.
Is it a feature the son did not realise his car had?No. or believed was operated in a different way? Yesish. or mistakenly believed his car did have? Yes.

By 'heater' being close, is it correct to assume this feature is to do with some form of heating of the car? Noish. of its passenger space? seats? foot area(s)? engine? Engine is relevant, no to all the others. boot? windscreen(s)?
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Going off the heater being close, is the accessory the A/C?

Would one look under the hood to see/access the accessory? Is it inside the car?

Was the scrund a habit of the father that the boy learned from him but was unrelated to the use of the accessory?
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Going off the heater being close, is the accessory the A/C? No.

Would one look under the hood to see/access the accessory? Is it inside the car? This.

Was the scrund a habit of the father that the boy learned from him but was unrelated to the use of the accessory? No.
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is the thing something like a control? on the dashboard? heating vents? ignition? mirrors? steering wheel? gear lever? handbrake?
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is the thing something like a control? Not a control. on the dashboard? Yes. heating vents? ignition? mirrors? steering wheel? gear lever? handbrake? No to all.
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Hmm, is this a scrund about the radiator? The radiator fan?
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Hmm, is this a scrund about the radiator? No, but OTRT. The radiator fan? No.
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is it a guage? like a temperature guage? oil pressure?
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Yes, it's the temperature gauge.
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sory about the speling
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No prob:-) Couldn't quote since I used my phone. Now why did he think it was malfunctioning?
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Did he think it was supposed to indicate the temperature inside the passenger compartment?
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Did he think it was supposed to indicate the temperature inside the passenger compartment? No.
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Did he think the gauge was stuck, because when the car is warmed up the thermostat keeps it a roughly constant temperature?
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Did he think the gauge was stuck, because when the car is warmed up the thermostat keeps it a roughly constant temperature? OTRT - he thought it was stuck, because he had the scrund. Explore.
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Has cold weather anything to do with his scrund?
So the needle of the temp gauge didn't move. Was it pointing towards "cold"? "hot"?
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Has cold weather anything to do with his scrund? No.
So the needle of the temp gauge didn't move. Was it pointing towards "cold"? "hot"? The needle moved normally, gradually going from cold to the normal running temperature and stopping there. Because of his scrund, he thought this behavior was wrong.
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So he thought that the needle should move to "hot" when the engine was fully warmed up?
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So he thought that the needle should move to "hot" when the engine was fully warmed up? No/FA.
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Clarification: there were no labels for "cold" and "hot" on the gauge.
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Did he think the needle shouldn't move at all? only a little bit?
Did his father think it was convenient that he had the scrund?
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Did he think the needle shouldn't move at all? only a little bit?  Botha incorrect.
Did his father think it was convenient that he had the scrund? Hem probably didn't know .
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if not labels for "hot" and "cold" .. were there other labels on the gauge? colors? pictograms? labels in a different language?
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if not labels for "hot" and "cold" .. were there other labels on the gauge? Yes. colors? Irr. pictograms? Yes. labels in a different language? No.
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When you say the temperature gauge did not have "hot" and "cold" labels you mean the words "hot" and "cold" were not there? or that there wasn't anything related to temperature?

Was the gauge something like this?
temperature gauge
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Almost exactly like that, which is relevant.
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was either one of them colour blind?
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Did the father say something like that the needle should "always remain in the black region", meaning that when the engine was at its final temperature, the needle should never be in the red zone? but the son thought that meant that it should never be in the blue zone either, even when the engine was cold?
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was either one of them colour blind? No.

Did the father say something like that the needle should "always remain in the black region", meaning that when the engine was at its final temperature, the needle should never be in the red zone? but the son thought that meant that it should never be in the blue zone either, even when the engine was cold? No to all, OTWT.
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Are the pictograms relevant?
Son's age relevant? Did he get a driving license?
Was it the son's first time starting a car?
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Are the pictograms relevant? Yes.
Son's age relevant? His age when he got the scrund: yope, his age when it was corrected: noish. Did he get a driving license? When the scrund was corrected: probably.
Was it the son's first time starting a car? No.
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Did the son know that it was a temperature gauge?
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Did the son know that it was a temperature gauge? No, good question.
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So the son thought the temp gauge was something else?
Relevant to determine the specific brand/year of the car?
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Galfisk, Yeah I thougth it was a good lateral question. I'll let someone else start the LTPF list of automotive dashboard gauges :-)
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So was the pictogram showing the thrermometer mis-interpreted?
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So the son thought the temp gauge was something else? Yes.
Relevant to determine the specific brand/year of the car? No.

So was the pictogram showing the thermometer mis-interpreted? Yes, indeed.
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Did the son think the temp gauge was the fuel tank indicator?
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Or maybe a music volume indicator?
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Did the son think the temp gauge was the fuel tank indicator? Or maybe a music volume indicator? No to both.
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Did he think it was supposed to measure the temperature inside the car's seating area?
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Did he think it was supposed to measure the temperature inside the car's seating area? No.
Hint: The answer is laterally connected to the pictogram. some more lateral questions will probably help more than direct guessing.
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Ok, was the scrund related to the red color? The blue color? The location of the color splotches? The image of the thermometer? The gauge needle? The wavy lines under the thermometer?
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did he think the themometer depicted represented something else?

or that blue meant "up" and amber "down" because of their relative positions?
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Ok, was the scrund related to the red color? The blue color? The location of the color splotches? The image of the thermometer?This... The gauge needle? The wavy lines under the thermometer? ...and this. No to the rest.

did he think the themometer depicted represented something else? Yes.

or that blue meant "up" and amber "down" because of their relative positions? No. In fact, the scale was vertical in the gauge in his car.
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Did he think the gauge shows the cooling water level? brake fluid level? antifreeze level? (confusing the thermometer with a hydrometer)
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Did he think the gauge shows the cooling water level? brake fluid level? antifreeze level? (confusing the thermometer with a hydrometer) No to all.
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did he think the wavy lines represented water? screenwash?
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did he think the wavy lines represented water? Yes, explore. screenwash? No.
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Did he think the thermometer + wavy lines represented water temperature? Did he recognize that the thermometer image was a thermometer?
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Did he think the thermometer + wavy lines represented water temperature? Did he recognize that the thermometer image was a thermometer? No to both.
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Did he think the thermometer image was a ruler (to measure depth)?
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Did he think the thermometer image was a ruler (to measure depth)? Noish to ruler, no to depth.
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So the son thought the temp gauge was something that actually his car wasn't equipped with? Is this "something" available in (other) cars? If so, is it an optional item? Is it expensive?
Was he driving the car? If so, did he stop it? Did he fear it could blow up? Or that it could damage the car?
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So the son thought the temp gauge was something that actually his car wasn't equipped with? Yes. Is this "something" available in (other) cars? Not that I know of. If so, is it an optional item? It would be. Is it expensive? Probably not.
Was he driving the car? Yes. If so, did he stop it? Did he fear it could blow up? Or that it could damage the car? No to all.
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is it available in planes? like the banana? *remembers the banana* *is going to bed now, hopefully will have better questions tomorrow - or rather, later today* night Galfisk & fellow puzzlers
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is it available in planes? like the banana? Yes to both. *remembers the banana* *is going to bed now, hopefully will have better questions tomorrow - or rather, later today* night Galfisk & fellow puzzlers.
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I'm confused now. What banana are you talking about? The banana plug?
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The "Banana" is a skydiving airplane that has figured in some of my past puzzles.
As far as I know, this thing is in all airplanes.
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is it the dooberry that measures the height above sea level and he thinks the wavy lines are the sea?
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is it the dooberry that measures the height above sea level and he thinks the wavy lines are the sea?
SPOILER!
Yes indeed. When he was a kid, his father joked that the temperature gauge measured height above sea level. As you can see, the pictogram could just as easily picture the sea and a height gauge.

As an adult, he posted to a car forum asking what was wrong with the "altimeter" in his first car. After he posted a picture of it, they swiftly corrected his scrund.

Thanks for playing, and to Shez for the solve, well done.

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