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Nimue (Nimue)
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Charlena is not rich enough or noble enough to be a big philanthropist, but she makes small donations to various charities, including medical ones. Lately she has been focusing her small contributions on ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), a progressive and ultimately fatal illness that gradually paralyzes the body. Neither she nor anyone she knows has this illness or is believed by her to be at risk for it.So why has she singled out this illness for her donations?
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Is Charlena fully aware of what the charity is supporting?
Are any of the following relevant:
the symptoms of the disease?
the fact it is fatal?
the name of the illness?
a particular person who has or had ALS?
the charity itself (how it operates, its staff, its fundraising methods etc)?
the likelihood of a breakthrough in the study of ALS?
the use to which donations are put?
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Because it's more commonly known as Lou Gehrig's Disease? Is there somebody famous, someone she doesn't know personally that she wants to help? Stephen Hawking? Is it in memory of somebody who has died with this disease?

Is the acronym relevant? Did she make an error when selecting the charity? (i.e. do the donations come from automatic deductions in her paycheck simply by checking a box?)
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Because it's more commonly known as Lou Gehrig's Disease? Is there somebody famous, someone she doesn't know personally that she wants to help? Stephen Hawking? Is it in memory of somebody who has died with this disease?

Is the acronym relevant? Did she make an error when selecting the charity? (i.e. do the donations come from automatic deductions in her paycheck simply by checking a box?)
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Is Charlena fully aware of what the charity is supporting? yes
Are any of the following relevant:
the symptoms of the disease? no
the fact it is fatal? Well, she wants to direct her efforts toward a fatal illnesses -- what could be worse than losing your life?-- but there are many illnesses that kill many more people. So you need to figure out why she picked this one.
the name of the illness? no
a particular person who has or had ALS? no
the charity itself (how it operates yesish, its staff no, its fundraising methods no etc)?
the likelihood of a breakthrough in the study of ALS? no
the use to which donations are put? yope
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Because it's more commonly known as Lou Gehrig's Disease? noIs there somebody famous, someone she doesn't know personally that she wants to help? noStephen Hawking? no Is it in memory of somebody who has died with this disease? bno

Is the acronym relevant? noDid she make an error when selecting the charity? no (i.e. do the donations come from automatic deductions in her paycheck simply by checking a box? No -- I'm Charlena & I would NEVER contribute through payroll deductions because of the risk of employer pressure & also because I think it's none of my employer's business what charities, if any, I support.
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Does the charity put its funds towards researching the disease? Working towards a cure? Or more towards making life better for people with the disease?

Does Charlena think that her money will be put to better use by that charity? Do they devote a higher percentage of their donations to charitable ends than other charities? Have lower admin fees? Are they transparent about letting donors know where their money is going?

Does Charlena receive some benefit from donating to the charity? Do they give perks of some kind to donors?

Does she know anyone involved in the charity? Is it relevant how she heard about the charity? Relevant how she gives her donations?
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Does the charity put its funds towards researching the disease? Working towards a cure? Or more towards making life better for people with the disease? It does all these things, esp. the first two, but so do many charities for other diseases. So why does she single out this one?

Does Charlena think that her money will be put to better use by that charity? yesish Do they devote a higher percentage of their donations to charitable ends than other charities?that's not it Have lower admin fees?ditto Are they transparent about letting donors know where their money is going? ditto

Does Charlena receive some benefit from donating to the charity? no Do they give perks of some kind to donors? no

Does she know anyone involved in the charity? no Is it relevant how she heard about the charity? no Relevant how she gives her donations? no
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Relevant how big the charity is? Is it relevant how much they make in donations? How much their staff are paid? What exactly they buy or pay for with their donations? Their advertising/publicity?

Is there more than one charity for ASL? If so, is the one she supports the biggest?

Does she think that by donating to this charity, she will be making a bigger difference? That her donations will be more appreciated? If the charity kept everything else about it the same, but switched to focus on a different fatal illness, would she still support them for the same reason?

Does the charity have some practice that she approves of? Or not have some practice that she disapproves of, which other charities do have?
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Relevant how big the charity is? no Is it relevant how much they make in donations? noHow much their staff are paid? noWhat exactly they buy or pay for with their donations? yesish Their advertising/publicity? noish

Is there more than one charity for ASL? If so, is the one she supports the biggest?

Does she think that by donating to this charity, she will be making a bigger difference? no That her donations will be more appreciated? no If the charity kept everything else about it the same, but switched to focus on a different fatal illness, would she still support them for the same reason? yes

Does the charity have some practice that she approves of? See next answer Or not have some practice that she disapproves of, which other charities do have? yes
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s there more than one charity for ASL? irrel If so, is the one she supports the biggest? irrel
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Would it be more appropriate to say, "I support this charity because they don't ______." ?
Or, "I didn't support these other charities because they _______." ?
Or, "

Our job is to fill in the blank?

Anything we can infer from their profile?
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3296
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A bit off-subject, but -
An old friend of mine was recently diagnosed with lateral arteritis, which basically means that if she doesn't take her meds she could go blind. She has all sorts of side effects from them, but it's better than not being able to see. My advice is: Avoid anythinbg connected with the word 'lateral' EXCEPT lateral puzzles!

Does she know somebody with ALS? (My brother-in- law had it.) Is she an admirer of Steven Hawking? Anywhere near OTRT?

Agree about employer pressure. It's NOTB.
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Animal testing relevant? Any other method used in medical research? Is it relevant that they're researching a medical issue? Or could it be any charity at all? Would my fictional charity "Hats for Houston's Homeless" qualify, if we didn't do this certain thing? would we be likely to be doing this thing?
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Animal testing relevant? No. Like the AIDS patient who wore a t-shirt with the message "Laboratory rats' rights over my dead body,' I'm 100% in favor of animal testing.Any other method used in medical research? no Is it relevant that they're researching a medical issue? Research is not the issue. Or could it be any charity at all? There could be similar problems non-medical charities.Would my fictional charity "Hats for Houston's Homeless" qualify, if we didn't do this certain thing? yeswould we be likely to be doing this thing? You might be doing something that raised a similar problem.
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Would it be more appropriate to say, "I support this charity because they don't ______." ? yes
Or, "I didn't support these other charities because they _______." ? yes
Or, "

Our job is to fill in the blank? yes

Anything we can infer from their profile? no
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3296
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A bit off-subject, but -
An old friend of mine was recently diagnosed with lateral arteritis, which basically means that if she doesn't take her meds she could go blind. She has all sorts of side effects from them, but it's better than not being able to see. My advice is: Avoid anythinbg connected with the word 'lateral' EXCEPT lateral puzzles! How about a lateral job transfer to an office in a more desirable location?

Does she know somebody with ALS? no(My brother-in- law had it.) Is she an admirer of Steven Hawking? irrel Anywhere near OTRT? no

Agree about employer pressure. It's NOTB.
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The practice that you disagree with:
Does it involve the charity spending money? Raising money?
Does it result in less money going to the good cause?
Do you find it annoying? Dishonest? Rude? Inefficient?
Does it concern how the charity interacts with donors? How it interacts with the people it helps?
Could any charity have this practice, regardless of what the charity is for?
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The practice that you disagree with:
Does it involve the charity spending money? yesish or yope Raising money? no
Does it result in less money going to the good cause? possibly, but there's a MUCH WORSE PROBLEM wiuth it
Do you find it annoying? worse than annoyingDishonest? no Rude? no Inefficient? no
Does it concern how the charity interacts with donors? no How it interacts with the people it helps? yope
Could any charity have this practice, regardless of what the charity is for? The specific practice, no. But most charities could have a practice raising the same general sort of problem.
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Does the practice damage the reputation of the charity? Have a negative effect on the people the charity is helping?
Is it to do with deciding how to distribute the money?
Does it mean that the money cannot be put to such good use (eg the practice of allowing donors to earmark exactly what their donations will go towards, which can lead to aid being very inefficient)?

Do you think that this practice shows a lack of caring about the purpose of the charity? A lack of empathy for the people with the disease?
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Does the practice damage the reputation of the charity?Probably not in most people's eyes, but it should!! Have a negative effect on the people the charity is helping? yes
Is it to do with deciding how to distribute the money? noish
Does it mean that the money cannot be put to such good use (eg the practice of allowing donors to earmark exactly what their donations will go towards, which can lead to aid being very inefficient)? no

Do you think that this practice shows a lack of caring about the purpose of the charity? no A lack of empathy for the people with the disease? possibly, but that's not the main problem. I think charities should do good, not display empathy (which can be intrusive).
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Do the charities make the people they help do something to get the money? Is it relevant how exactly they give them the money (eg giving them a lump sum vs paying for certain treatment)? Is it relevant who qualifies for help from the charity?
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Do the charities make the people they help do something to get the money?no Is it relevant how exactly they give them the money (eg giving them a lump sum vs paying for certain treatment)? no Is it relevant who qualifies for help from the charity? no
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Religion relevant?

she hate it when the charity is religion-related?
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Do other medical charities give most of their money to scientists, and not to people suffering from the disease? And ALS gives money/support to people currently suffering?

Money spent on executives or other administrators of the charity relevant?
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Religion relevant? see next answer

she hate it when the charity is religion-related? Yes, but irrel, since she avoids many non-religious charities.
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Do other medical charities give most of their money to scientists, and not to people suffering from the disease? ireel And ALS gives money/support to people currently suffering? irrel

Money spent on executives or other administrators of the charity relevant? no
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Discrimination relevant?
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Is this particular charity administered in an other country where the organization is more leniently taxed? Better exchange rates and/ or lower wages/costs for treatment/research so you get more out of the money?

If in your own country, is there a particular tax excerpt or tax deduction rule for this ALS charity?
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Discrimination relevant? Yes!! GOOOOOOOOD QUESTION!!!!
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Is this particular charity administered in an other country where the organization is more leniently taxed? no Better exchange rates and/ or lower wages/costs for treatment/research so you get more out of the money? no

If in your own country, is there a particular tax excerpt or tax deduction rule for this ALS charity? no
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is it that they don't discriminate when it comes to who to help?
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It's about something that a man plagued by ALS can't do?

Like properly walking to the location of the institution?

It's that she hated it when most charities didn't offer their service to those who were paralyzed and forced to stay within the confines of home because of the cost or shortage of personnel? And certainly charities for ALS did go physically as far as to their place to provide medication for them?
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is it that they don't discriminate when it comes to who to help? no
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It's about something that a man plagued by ALS can't do? no

Like properly walking to the location of the institution? no

It's that she hated it when most charities didn't offer their service to those who were paralyzed and forced to stay within the confines of home because of the cost or shortage of personnel? no--she doesn't even know if this is true of most charities And certainly charities for ALS did go physically as far as to their place to provide medication for them? no
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Is it relevant that many charities specifically give money to children/younger people? And she thinks it's discrimination?
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Is it relevant that many charities specifically give money to children/younger people? no And she thinks it's discrimination? I do think it's discrimination, but that's irrel.
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HINT: There is a special characteristic of ALS that makes it very unlikely that an ALS charity will be involved in this form of discrimination. Find out what it is.
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Is it relevant that it affects people of all races and ethnicities? That men are affected more often than women?
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Is it relevant that it affects people of all races and ethnicities? irrelThat men are affected more often than women? irrel
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Would the discrimination be related to race? Gender? Sexuality? Religion? Political beliefs? Health? Disability? Age?
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Would the discrimination be related to race? no Gender? noSexuality? no Religion? noPolitical beliefs? noHealth? no, but --HINT-- this suggestion is the most ORT (on the right track) Disability? no Age? no
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Are particular habits relevant? Health related ones?
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discrimination against weight? height? strength?
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Are particular habits relevant? yes Health related ones? yes
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discrimination against weight? no or maybe noish height? no strength? no
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Is it discrimination against people who do a certain thing? Or don't do a certain thing? Healthy eating relevant? Exercise? Smoking? Drinking? Getting regular medical checkups? Do you feel that some charities pry too much into whether their recipients do these things?
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Is it discrimination against people who do a certain thing? yes Or don't do a certain thing? possiblyHealthy eating relevant? possibly Exercise? dittoSmoking? That's the case I'm familiar with, but the other health habits could figure tooDrinking?possibly Getting regular medical checkups? unlikely Do you feel that some charities pry too much into whether their recipients do these things? That's not te problem -- I don't know of any charity that does that. But some do something else bad with respect to "lifestyle discrimination." Find out what -- & why no ALS charity would be likely to be implicated in lifestyle discrimination at all.
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Would the discrimination against smokers be in regards to the people to whom the charity gives money? The people who donate money? The employees of the charity? The people with whom the charity chooses to be associated?

Would an ALS charity be unlikely to discriminate because of the spectrum of people affected? Because of something to do with the symptoms of ALS? The causes? The life expectancy of someone with ALS?
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Would the discrimination against smokers be in regards to the people to whom the charity gives money? No more than in regards to any other people The people who donate money? ditto The employees of the charity? Possibly but that's not the case I'm familiar with The people with whom the charity chooses to be associated?No more than in regards to any other people

Would an ALS charity be unlikely to discriminate because of the spectrum of people affected? See next answer but one Because of something to do with the symptoms of ALS? no The causes? Yes!!!!! GOOOD QUESTION!!!!!! The life expectancy of someone with ALS? no
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Is it because ALS is not known to be caused by any aspect of lifestyle - a non-smoking health freak could get it just as easily as a smoker?
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Is it because ALS is not known to be caused by any aspect of lifestyle - a non-smoking health freak could get it just as easily as a smoker? yes

********* SPOILER ************
A puzzle I posted several years ago hinged on the fact that I stopped contributing to the American Heart Association because they opposed laws forbidding employees from discriminating against job applicants who smoked OFF the job. Since no personal health habits are implicated in causing ALS, an ALS charity has no excuse for supporting lifestyle discrimination on the grounds that it will help combat the disease. So that makes it a good charity for someone who is opposed to lifestyle discrimination. Please scroll down for a good (I hope) new puzzle.
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By the way, the address of the charity is http://www.als.net/

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