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Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 11:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Because of a scrund I had, I thought they were being overly cautious.
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Is "they" a particularly group of people? An organization?
Is this an example of over-PC? Did you think it was one?
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Was the scrund about the meaning of a word? Or several words? Did you think a non-offensive word was offensive? Or the other way around?
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Is "they" a particularly group of people? Yes An organization? Yesish
Is this an example of over-PC? No Did you think it was one? Not really, I thought they were being very cautious but not in a PC way.

Was the scrund about the meaning of a word? Yes Or several words? No Did you think a non-offensive word was offensive? No Or the other way around? No
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Did they use the word you had a scrund about? Avoid using it? Use a different word you thought was less fitting?
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Did they use the word you had a scrund about? Yes, no to rest Avoid using it? Use a different word you thought was less fitting?
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did they use the word in the name of their organisation or group? or what the individuals called themselves? or how they described what they do?
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did they use the word in the name of their organisation or group? or what the individuals called themselves? No to both or how they described what they do? Yope
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Gender involved (of words), or sex (of people)?
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Gender involved (of words), or sex (of people)? Neither
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Is their profession relevant? Do they work together? Do another task together? Sports relevant? Can they be described as a: team? Club? Troupe? Company? Mob? Friends? Colleagues? Business partners?
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Is their profession relevant? Yes Do they work together? Yes Do another task together? Sports relevant? No Can they be described as a: team? Club? Troupe? Company? This Mob? Friends? Colleagues? And this Business partners?
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Profession:
Artistic / musical / writer
Banking / financial / real estate
Clerical / Administrative
Computer related / Hardware
Construction / Craftsman
Criminal / Questionable Repute
Education / Academic Research
Entertainment / Media
Environmental / Outdoors / Nature
Executive / Management
Hospitality / Travel
Legal Services
Manufacturing / Distributions
Medical / Health Services
Politics / Government / Military
Sales / Marketing
Technical / Science / Engineering
Teaching / Child care
Transportation
Food Service
Other?

Were the words in: advertising? Mass media? Headquarters? On a product? In a product name? A slogan?
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Profession:
Artistic / musical / writer
Banking / financial / real estate
Clerical / Administrative 'They' were probably the administrative staff, or perhaps management, of a company. Figuring out the company will help you more
Computer related / Hardware
Construction / Craftsman
Criminal / Questionable Repute
Education / Academic Research
Entertainment / Media
Environmental / Outdoors / Nature
Executive / Management
Hospitality / Travel This is closest to the nature of the company
Legal Services
Manufacturing / Distributions
Medical / Health Services
Politics / Government / Military
Sales / Marketing
Technical / Science / Engineering
Teaching / Child care
Transportation
Food Service
Other?

Were the words in: advertising? Noish Mass media? Headquarters? On a product? In a product name? A slogan? No to rest
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Airplane company? Train? bus? Taxi? Car manufacturer? Tour company? Tourist guides? Was the word on a vehicle? Several vehicles? In a logo?
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Airplane company? Train? bus? Taxi? Car manufacturer? Tour company? Tourist guides? Was the word on a vehicle? Several vehicles? In a logo? No to all, but think 'travel' as in leisure/tourism rather than transportation
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A travel agency?
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A travel agency? No
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Hotel? Other accommodation? A theme park? Water park? Other park? Zoo? Other tourist attraction?
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Hotel? Other accommodation? A theme park? Water park? Other park? Zoo? Other tourist attraction? It was a water park/theme park, but other kinds of park would probably work too
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Was the word written? In the park? On their website? In a brochure? Said by staff? Through a PA system? Written on staff clothes?
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Was the word part of a sentence or phrase? On a sign? displaying a warning? a suggestion? a request? information?

Did you interpret them to be overly cautious with respect to a danger of death? injury? health/hygiene risk? embarrassment?

Did you believe there to be no such danger? mistakenly? correctly? or only a moderate, minor or miniscule risk?

Did you believe them to believe there to be such a danger? of significant chance of occurring?
Do you now believe them to believe there to be such a danger? of a significant chance of occurring?

I was on holiday with my family a couple of years back and we laughed at the ambiguity of a sign that warned us, "in case of fire do not use lift". Not wanting to carry our suitcases up the several flights of stairs to our room, we 'recklessly' ignored it. :P
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Was the word written? Yes In the park? Yes On their website? Possibly In a brochure? No Said by staff? Possibly Through a PA system? Possibly Written on staff clothes? No

Was the word part of a sentence or phrase? Yes On a sign? Yes displaying a warning? Yope a suggestion? a request? information? Yes to this, no or noish to others

Did you interpret them to be overly cautious with respect to a danger of death? injury? Either death or injury, no to rest health/hygiene risk? embarrassment?

Did you believe there to be no such danger? mistakenly? correctly? or only a moderate, minor or miniscule risk? I incorrectly believed there to be a minor or minuscule risk

Did you believe them to believe there to be such a danger? Yes of significant chance of occurring? Yes
Do you now believe them to believe there to be such a danger? of a significant chance of occurring? Yes to both
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Would the danger be for people simply swimming in pools? to those riding water slides? to those on other rides? to those walking on the ground?

Is the danger of drowning? of falling from a height? of slipping and falling while standing on the ground? of having something dropped on you? of getting part of your body stuck in something?
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Would the danger be for people simply swimming in pools? to those riding water slides? to those on other rides? to those walking on the ground? To everyone, but least so to those walking on the ground

Is the danger of drowning? of falling from a height? of slipping and falling while standing on the ground? of having something dropped on you? of getting part of your body stuck in something? None of these
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I worked at a theme park over the summer, but this isn't jumping out at me...

Was the danger of being struck by another person? A part of an attraction? "Stand behind this line" or something like that? "Only one person at a time"?
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Was the danger of being struck by another person? No A part of an attraction? This might have come into it but is not the actual danger they were warning about "Stand behind this line" or something like that? "Only one person at a time"? No to both

Hint: the danger is not always present
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Weather relevant? Lightning? Cold? Heat? UV radiation? UV radiation in overcast weather? (That one got me once in a water park) Precipitation?
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Weather relevant? Yes Lightning? Yes Cold? Heat? UV radiation? UV radiation in overcast weather? (That one got me once in a water park) Precipitation? Yes, no to unanswered
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Did they close whenever it rained? Or close some attractions? Did they close whenever there was a risk of thunderstorms? Or close certain attractions then? Did they warn against doing something specific? such as walking barefoot?
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Did they close whenever it rained? No Or close some attractions? Did they close whenever there was a risk of thunderstorms? Yes, or at least when there actually was a thunderstorm Or close certain attractions then? Did they warn against doing something specific? such as walking barefoot? No to these
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Did your scrund only involve the meaning of this word? Or did it involve something more? Such as thunderstorms? Lightning strikes? did they sue a word that you thought meant "extremely unlikely" or similar?
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Did your scrund only involve the meaning of this word? Yes Or did it involve something more? Such as thunderstorms? Lightning strikes? No, only the meaning of the word
did they sue a word that you thought meant "extremely unlikely" or similar? No, but sort of OTRT
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Because of the scrund, did you think: lightning strikes were less likely than they were? That they were less likely to cause injury? Or that the injury in question would be less serious?
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Because of the scrund, did you think: lightning strikes were less likely than they were? This That they were less likely to cause injury? Or that the injury in question would be less serious?
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"A risk of lightning strikes"? "A chance of lightning strikes"?
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"A risk of lightning strikes"? "A chance of lightning strikes"? Neither
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Is the weather in the area relevant? Did you think the lightning would strike somewhere else?
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Is the weather in the area relevant? Yes Did you think the lightning would strike somewhere else? No

Small hint: lightning is probably the most dangerous element, but it was not specifically lightning that the use of the word referred to
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Did it refer to: Storms? Thunder? Bad weather? Cloud types? Forecasts?
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Did it refer to: Storms? Thunder? Bad weather? This is closest Cloud types? Forecasts?
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"Inclement weather"?
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"Inclement weather"? YES! This is the phrase they used. So what was my scrund, and why did I think they were being overly cautious?
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You thought 'inclement' meant merely unpleasant/miserable/undesirable/poor, i.e. 'a little bit wet, a little bit windy', when in reality it refers to severe, harsh conditions such as torrential rain and gales or dangerous icy conditions?
Or, more specifically, did you acquire this scrund through how a school may for example warn about a closure due to 'inclement weather' on a snow day, and thus believed it meant lots of snow or cold?
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Did you think it meant "the weather in a place called Clement"? And you wondered why they'd close the park their if there was bad weather in Clement?
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And by "their" I mean "there" -- stupid homophones
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You thought 'inclement' meant merely unpleasant/miserable/undesirable/poor, i.e. 'a little bit wet, a little bit windy', when in reality it refers to severe, harsh conditions such as torrential rain and gales or dangerous icy conditions? Yes!

*******SPOILER*******
I'm not sure why, but until quite recently I had always believed 'inclement weather' to mean weather that is just slightly bad, with a few rain showers perhaps. Maybe it's because of the similarity to 'increment', suggesting a small amount, or because I never thought of the word as meaning 'not clement', and it's not a common enough word to have been corrected earlier. So when I heard of a theme park being closed due to inclement weather, I thought they were being overly cautious, until I googled the phrase and realised my misconception.

Thanks for playing everyone and Liquizt for finishing it off!

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