| Author | Message | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2160 Registered: 4-2007 |
Why is there a pair of shoes in Trevor's chimney? This is taken from the plot of a novel, so if you've read it, please don't spoil straight away! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18192 Registered: 4-2010 |
I have a wild guess I'd like to send, but your email's not on your profile. Is there a way I can contact you? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2162 Registered: 4-2007 |
I'll email the address in your profile | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18194 Registered: 4-2010 |
Guess sent | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2165 Registered: 4-2007 |
Yep, you got it! Well done :-) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18196 Registered: 4-2010 |
Wow, a shot in the dark pays off! | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3391 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is Trevor H/A/M? Trevor's chimney = the chimney of the house Trevor lives in? Does he live there alone? Relevant? Are they his shoes? Did he place them there intentionally? accidentally? Santa relevant? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2167 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is Trevor H/A/M? Yes Trevor's chimney = the chimney of the house Trevor lives in? Yesish, something of an FA Does he live there alone? Yesish, with same FA Relevant? Yes Are they his shoes? Yes Did he place them there intentionally? accidentally? No to both Santa relevant? No | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3398 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does he live in an apartment building? Did someone else place the shoes there? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2169 Registered: 4-2007 |
Does he live in an apartment building? No, FA is still present Did someone else place the shoes there? Yes | ||
| Solo1 (Solo1)
New member Username: Solo1 Post Number: 441 Registered: 5-2012 |
Does he live in a dormitory? Or just something other than a conventional house? | ||
| Mimino (Mimino)
New member Username: Mimino Post Number: 79 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is Trevor dead? Did he die in the chimney? Is his body still attached to his boots? Type of shoe relevant? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2172 Registered: 4-2007 |
Does he live in a dormitory? Or just something other than a conventional house? No to both Is Trevor dead? YES - FA cleared Did he die in the chimney? No Is his body still attached to his boots? No Type of shoe relevant? Yes | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3406 Registered: 12-2010 |
Are the shoes sneakers? loafers? boots? sandals? slippers? Are they mens' shoes? womens'? kids'? Did they use to be Trevor's shoes? The person who placed the shoes there - a family member of Trevor? a friend? acquaintance? neighbour? Is it a custom / tradition to place the shoes of a deceased person in their chimney? Relevant how Trevor died? How long he has been dead for? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2173 Registered: 4-2007 |
Are the shoes sneakers? loafers? boots? sandals? slippers? Boots Are they mens' shoes? womens'? kids'? Mens' Did they use to be Trevor's shoes? Yes The person who placed the shoes there - a family member of Trevor? a friend? This acquaintance? neighbour? Is it a custom / tradition to place the shoes of a deceased person in their chimney? No Relevant how Trevor died? Yes How long he has been dead for? Yes | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3408 Registered: 12-2010 |
Has he been dead for less than a week? less than a month? less than a year? less than five years? more than that? Did his friend place the shoes there right after his death? With a delay? Did Trevor die of natural causes? an accident? was he murdered? Did he die at home? Relevant? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2174 Registered: 4-2007 |
Has he been dead for less than a week? This (assuming we are counting from the moment when the shoes were in the chimney; the book this is from is set in the past) less than a month? less than a year? less than five years? more than that? Did his friend place the shoes there right after his death? Yes With a delay? Did Trevor die of natural causes? an accident? was he murdered? This Did he die at home? Yes Relevant? Yes | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3409 Registered: 12-2010 |
Was he murdered by his friend? By someone he knew? By a stranger? Did the friend try to cover up the murder? to make it look like suicide? like an accident? Are the police investigating the case? Are they looking for traces? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2175 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was he murdered by his friend? Yes By someone he knew? By a stranger? Did the friend try to cover up the murder? Yope to make it look like suicide? like an accident? No to both these Are the police investigating the case? Yes Are they looking for traces? Yes | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3410 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is it relevant how he was murdered? If so, shot? strangled? stabbed? suffocated? poisoned? blunt force? Relevant why his friend murdered him? Relationships relevant? jealousy? money? Is his friend H/A/M? F? relevant? When his friend places the shoes in the chimney, is he already a suspect? Relevant who found the body? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2176 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is it relevant how he was murdered? No If so, shot? strangled? stabbed? suffocated? poisoned? blunt force? Relevant why his friend murdered him? No Relationships relevant? jealousy? money? Is his friend H/A/M? F? relevant? HAM, relevant When his friend places the shoes in the chimney, is he already a suspect? No Relevant who found the body? Yes | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3411 Registered: 12-2010 |
Can we call his friend Ron? Did the person who found the body have access to Trevor's house? Was the body found in his house in the first place? Or had his murderer disposed of it someplace else? Was it a relative? a friend? a neighbour? the police? the cleaning lady/gardener/mailman/...? Is it a H/A/M? F? Did the person find the body accidentally? Was s/he looking for Trevor? Did his friend try to avoid becoming a suspect? to make it look as if someone else was the murderer? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2177 Registered: 4-2007 |
Can we call his friend Ron? Certainly Did the person who found the body have access to Trevor's house? Yes Was the body found in his house in the first place? Yes Or had his murderer disposed of it someplace else? No Was it a relative? a friend? This, but be careful! a neighbour? the police? and this the cleaning lady/gardener/mailman/...? Is it a H/A/M? F? HAM with a police officer Did the person find the body accidentally? Noish Was s/he looking for Trevor? Yope Did his friend try to avoid becoming a suspect? Yes to make it look as if someone else was the murderer? Not anyone specific | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3412 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is the friend who found the body Ron? Did he pretend he had found it? Did he call the police? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2178 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is the friend who found the body Ron? Yes Did he pretend he had found it? Yes Did he call the police? Yes | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5132 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he put the shoes in the chimney in order to: keep them from being found? Delay their finding? Let them be found in there? Or did they fill some other function inside the chimney? Such as blocking it? Becoming charred? Catching fire? Making smoke? Getting smoked? Smelling bad? Did he put them inside from the top? Side? Bottom? Relevant? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2180 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did he put the shoes in the chimney in order to: keep them from being found? This Delay their finding? Let them be found in there? Or did they fill some other function inside the chimney? No to all these Such as blocking it? Becoming charred? Catching fire? Making smoke? Getting smoked? Smelling bad? Did he put them inside from the top? Side? Bottom? Relevant? He stuffed them in from the fireplace below, only relevant in that that is the easiest way to get something into a chimney | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5134 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is there something relevant about the shoes themselves, except the fat that they're boots? Is it important to know why he had boots? Was he wearing them when he died? Are they new? Old? Easily recognized? Changed in a relevant way? Is something relevant on them? Such as a substance he has stepped in? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2193 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is there something relevant about the shoes themselves, except the fat that they're boots? Yes Is it important to know why he had boots? Yes Was he wearing them when he died? No Are they new? Old? This but irrel Easily recognized? Irrel Changed in a relevant way? No Is something relevant on them? No Such as a substance he has stepped in? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5141 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does he have boots in order to: keep warm in cold conditions? Keep dry in wet conditions? Keep clean in dirty conditions? Keep a firm footing in slippery conditions? Keep safe in dangerous conditions? Walk in rough terrain? Climb? Run? Have rugged footwear that can stand a lot of wear and tear? Are the boots steel-capped? Relevant? Does he have any other relevant footwear? Are the boots evidence of his profession? Of a hobby? a habit? Of having been somewhere at a particular time? Scent relevant? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2200 Registered: 4-2007 |
All unanswered are no: Does he have boots in order to: keep warm in cold conditions? This is part of it Keep dry in wet conditions? And this Keep clean in dirty conditions? Keep a firm footing in slippery conditions? Keep safe in dangerous conditions? Walk in rough terrain? Climb? Run? Have rugged footwear that can stand a lot of wear and tear? Are the boots steel-capped? Irrel Relevant? Does he have any other relevant footwear? No Are the boots evidence of his profession? No Of a hobby? Yesish, this is the most relevant point a habit? No Of having been somewhere at a particular time? No Scent relevant? No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5145 Registered: 9-2009 |
Hobbyish: something done outside? Trekking? Hunting? Fishing? Running? Construction? Logging? Farming? Some sport? Were the boots associated with a specific sport? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2203 Registered: 4-2007 |
Hobbyish: something done outside? Yes Trekking? Hunting? Fishing? Running? Construction? Logging? Farming? No to all Some sport? Yes Were the boots associated with a specific sport? Yes | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5150 Registered: 9-2009 |
Sport: motor sport? Snow sport? Water sport? Ice sport? Summer sport? Team sport? Are they ski boots? Snowboard boots? Are they hidden in order to hide the fact that Trevor used to partake in that sport? Did the murderer also partake in the same sport? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2205 Registered: 4-2007 |
Sport: motor sport? Snow sport? Water sport? Ice sport? Summer sport? Team sport? Are they ski boots? This Snowboard boots? Are they hidden in order to hide the fact that Trevor used to partake in that sport? No... Did the murderer also partake in the same sport? Yes! | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5151 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was anything except the skiing boots hidden there? Type of skiing relevant? If so: cross country? Slalom? Downhill? Did Trevor come to this place wearing the boots? Did he come on skis? Did the murderer hide something else relevant? If so: skis? Poles? Clothing? Other skiing equipment? If he hid anything else, was that also put inside the chimney? Or removed from he house? Relevant why he murdered his skiing buddy? (Were they skiing buddies?) | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2208 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was anything except the skiing boots hidden there? No Type of skiing relevant? Somewhat If so: cross country? I think it would count as this Slalom? Downhill? Did Trevor come to this place wearing the boots? Did he come on skis? No to both Did the murderer hide something else relevant? Yope If so: skis? This Poles? Maybe this too, not sure. No to rest Clothing? Other skiing equipment? If he hid anything else, was that also put inside the chimney? No Or removed from he house? No Relevant why he murdered his skiing buddy? No (Were they skiing buddies?) Irrel | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5163 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the skis he yopishly hid belong to: the victim? The murderer? Someone else? Yopishly hiding: camouflaging? Destroying? Removing? Moving? Did he not want investigators to link Trevor to skiing? Or to a particular skiing activity? Or skiing at a particular time? Was Trevor killed in his home? Was he sharing the home with the murderer? with someone else? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2223 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did the skis he yopishly hid belong to: the victim? The murderer? This Someone else? Yopishly hiding: camouflaging? Yesish, no to rest Destroying? Removing? Moving? Did he not want investigators to link Trevor to skiing? Not this Or to a particular skiing activity? No Or skiing at a particular time? No Was Trevor killed in his home? Yes Was he sharing the home with the murderer? with someone else? No to both | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5164 Registered: 9-2009 |
Relevant how Trevor was murdered? How the murderer came there? How he left? How Trevor came there? When Trevor came there? Was the murderer already there, when Trevor came home? Relevant? Were the skis covered by something? Placed among ski-like objects? Placed somewhere people would be unlikely to look? Or unlikely to notice them? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 3369 Registered: 7-2009 |
Are ski tracks in the snow relevant? Did the murderer arrive by skiing? Leave by skiing? Did Trevor arrive by skiing? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2224 Registered: 4-2007 |
Relevant how Trevor was murdered? No How the murderer came there? Yes How he left? Yes How Trevor came there? No When Trevor came there? No Was the murderer already there, when Trevor came home? No Relevant? Yes Were the skis covered by something? No Placed among ski-like objects? Yes Placed somewhere people would be unlikely to look? No Or unlikely to notice them? Yesish Are ski tracks in the snow relevant? No, but... Did the murderer arrive by skiing? ...yes! Leave by skiing? No Did Trevor arrive by skiing? No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5168 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the murderer arrive with Trevor's ski boots? If so: wearing them? Carrying them? Did he arrive with his own skis? Did he arrive in order to give Trevor the boots? Were the skis placed among other skis? Among other winter sports equipment? Among trees? Logs? Planks? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2227 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did the murderer arrive with Trevor's ski boots? No If so: wearing them? Carrying them? Did he arrive with his own skis? Yes Did he arrive in order to give Trevor the boots? No Were the skis placed among other skis? Yes Among other winter sports equipment? Yes Among trees? Logs? Planks? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5188 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the murderer wear ski boots when he was skiing? Did he take them with him when he left? If not, did he leave them somewhere relevant? Did he leave on foot? Snowmobile? Car? Other ground vehicle? Air vehicle? Leaving tracks while leaving relevant? Did he want to make it look like: he hadn't been there? Someone else had been there? Nobody had been there? Did he intend to commit a crime when he went there? If so, did he intend to murder Trevor? Or did he only think about hiding his tracks after the murder had taken place? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2236 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did the murderer wear ski boots when he was skiing? Yes Did he take them with him when he left? No If not, did he leave them somewhere relevant? Yes Did he leave on foot? Yes, no to others Snowmobile? Car? Other ground vehicle? Air vehicle? Leaving tracks while leaving relevant? No Did he want to make it look like: he hadn't been there? Yope Someone else had been there? No Nobody had been there? Yope Did he intend to commit a crime when he went there? Yes If so, did he intend to murder Trevor? Yes Or did he only think about hiding his tracks after the murder had taken place? No, it was pre-planned | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2237 Registered: 4-2007 |
BLOOPER, sorry: Did he take them with him when he left? Should be yes If not, did he leave them somewhere relevant? Should therefore be no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5194 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did he want to make it look like Trevor had arrived on skis? Are any tracks outside relevant at all? Is there snow outside? Did he leave walking in: ski boots? Other boots? Boots belonging to Trevor? Did he leave walking backwards? Did he want to make it look like he arrived on foot and left on skis, instead of vice versa? Did he want to make it look like some of his tracks belonged to Trevor? Or vice versa? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2240 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did he want to make it look like Trevor had arrived on skis? No Are any tracks outside relevant at all? No Is there snow outside? Yes Did he leave walking in: ski boots? This Other boots? No Boots belonging to Trevor? No Did he leave walking backwards? No Did he want to make it look like he arrived on foot Yes and left on skis, No instead of vice versa? Did he want to make it look like some of his tracks belonged to Trevor? Or vice versa? No to both | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3783 Registered: 2-2011 |
did he want to make it look as if he'd only just arrived? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2245 Registered: 4-2007 |
did he want to make it look as if he'd only just arrived? Yes | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3792 Registered: 2-2011 |
so he skied there, did the murder, hid the boots then left on foot, coming back much later? was walking there his alibi? like he couldn't have done the murder because he was still on his way in the snow? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2270 Registered: 4-2007 |
so he skied there, did the murder, hid the boots then left on foot, coming back much later? was walking there his alibi? like he couldn't have done the murder because he was still on his way in the snow? Yes! I think that's all the main points *****SPOILER***** Ron wanted to kill his friend Trevor, but needed an alibi. Fortunately for Ron, he lives in an isolated house outside of the village where Trevor lives, and it was snowing. Ron organised a gathering at his house, then claimed to have a reason to be worried about Trevor and set off to check on him. He secretly fastened on his skis, whizzed down and killed Trevor. Then he left and came back later, pretending to have just arrived on foot, and fetched a policeman to 'discover' Trevor's body. So long as nobody realised he had skied there he had an alibi for the time of death, since the journey would have taken several hours on foot. So he put his skis in the cupboard where Trevor kept his, and hid Trevor's ski boots, in case the sight of them led someone's mind to skiing or in case they realised that the boots would not fit both pairs of skis in the cupboard. This is taken from the plot of an Agatha Christie novel, which I hope I haven't just ruined for anyone reading it! | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 885 Registered: 5-2008 |
I watched a television adaption of this mystery recently. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3800 Registered: 2-2011 |
excellent! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18292 Registered: 4-2010 |
That was one of the last Christie books I read, and when you said "novel" it clicked. Great puzzle!! By the way, how do you pronounce the place name in the title? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2276 Registered: 4-2007 |
I'd pronounce it SIT-uh-fud, but I don't believe it to be a real place so that's just how I naturally read it. I quite like the book as it's one of the ones set in the landscape Christie lived in which is right by my hometown. |
