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A scrund saved many people's lives for years. On the day it would cause many people to die, they were saved by a simple comment.
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Would the people have died violently? an act of warfare? from disease? an act of god? other disaster? Are there a specific number of people? are they residents of the same town? country? or do they have something else in common?

Did one of their own number make the comment? Was the comment verbal or written?
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Would the people have died violently? Yes an act of warfare? Yes, it can be considered as such from disease? an act of god? other disaster? no to the rest
Are there a specific number of people? No, irr are they residents of the same town? irr country? irr, but finding out which region of the world may help
or do they have something else in common? Yes...ish

Did one of their own number make the comment? Yes Was the comment verbal This or written?
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Was their collective scrund the mistaken belief that something or someone would protect them? or that they wouldn't be attacked in the first place? Had they been threatened in any way? Are they of all ages and sexes? Are they civilians?
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Was their collective scrund the mistaken belief that something or someone would protect them? No, and FA "their"
or that they wouldn't be attacked in the first place? No Had they been threatened in any way? No Are they of all ages and sexes? Yes Are they civilians? Yes
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Did every single one of them have the scrund? If not, would those without the scrund die along with those who had it?
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Did every single one of them have the scrund? Not necessarily
If not, would those without the scrund die along with those who had it? Yes
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Did those who did/would have done the act of warfare also have the scrund?
Are the possible attackers terrorists? Pirates?
Do the possible victims share the common profession? hobbies? Were they foreigners in the place where it happened?
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Is there actually a relevant desert in this puzzle? or a dessert for that matter? ;)
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Did those who did/would have done the act of warfare also have the scrund? Yes
Are the possible attackers terrorists? This Pirates?
Do the possible victims share the common profession? No hobbies? No...ish Were they foreigners in the place where it happened? Irr

Is there actually a relevant desert in this puzzle? Yes, but the only relevant thing is to determine the region of the world it took place.
or a dessert for that matter? ;) YES!
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Napoleon?
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Napoleon? No
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Africa? Australasia? Europe? Asia? the Americas? Antartica?
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Is food involved?
Did it take place in a desert?
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Africa? Australasia? Europe? Asia? This, but a more specific region the Americas? Antartica?

Is food involved? Yes
Did it take place in a desert? Yes, in a place surrounded by desert
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An Oasis?
Food=figs? olives? something else found in an oasis?
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Asia - Southeast Asia? China? India? Middle East?
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An Oasis? Irr
Food=figs? olives? something else found in an oasis?
No, OTWT. As mentioned before, a dessert (which you can have in many places around the world, not only where this situation takes place).

Asia - Southeast Asia? China? India? Middle East? THIS.

RECAP
Middle East. For a long time, a scrund regarding a dessert saved many people from a terrorist attack. On the day the scrund would cause the terrorists to attack, a simple verbal comment saved everybody.


Find out:
- what is the scrund?
- why one day everything changed and the scrund would actually cause the attack
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Did the terrorists think that the dessert was uninhabitable, so no one could live there? So that they didn't bother to venture into it?
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is pork or a pig product involved? lard?
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Could it be as simple as an s making the difference between desert and dessert? Was the scrund be confusion between desert and dessert?
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Would it be 'getting your just desserts?
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Did the terrorists think that the dessert was uninhabitable, so no one could live there? Irr, OTWT So that they didn't bother to venture into it? No

I only mentioned "desert" so you could find out where it took place. Now that you know it was in a Middle East country, there's no need to focus on the desert itself.

is pork or a pig product involved? lard? No..., but a quick search on the internet showed me it's controversial/a myth whether there's lard in it or not

Could it be as simple as an s making the difference between desert and dessert? No Was the scrund be confusion between desert and dessert? No

Would it be 'getting your just desserts? No
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Did the scrund concern the recipe of the dessert? the place of origin of the dessert? the story of origin of the dessert? a custom or tradition associated with the dessert?
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Did the scrund concern the recipe of the dessert? No
the place of origin of the dessert? YES!!!
the story of origin of the dessert? No
a custom or tradition associated with the dessert? No
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HINT: I'm not talking about a specific dessert of a country (like creme brulee from France), but rather...
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The scrund was not over the country in which the dessert originated? but the place in terms of type of environment (e.g. inside/outside, by a chef in a kitchen/by a mechanic in a garage/etc.)?

Was the dessert invented by a chef? believed to be?

Is it relevant where it originated in terms of type of location?

Was it invented inside? outside?
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The scrund was not over the country The scrund was over the country of origin in which the dessert originated? Not the dessert itself (the thing you eat), but...
but the place in terms of type of environment (e.g. inside/outside, by a chef in a kitchen/by a mechanic in a garage/etc.)? No

Was the dessert invented by a chef? believed to be? Irr

Is it relevant where it originated in terms of type of location? No, just the country (see answer above)

Was it invented inside? outside? Irr
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Does the scrund concern the place of origin of the name of the dessert?
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Does the scrund concern the place of origin of any ingredient for a dessert?
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too obvious to guess whether Turkish Delight is relevant (although that's not strictly a dessert)?
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Does the scrund concern the place of origin of the name Yes of the dessert? but not the dessert itself

Does the scrund concern the place of origin of any ingredient for a dessert? No

too obvious to guess whether Turkish Delight is relevant (although that's not strictly a dessert)? Irrelevant
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Did the comment that saved the people concern the scrund? If yes, did it say the scrund was true? False?
Did the scrund say that something else took its name from the dessert?
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Did the comment that saved the people concern the scrund? Yes If yes, did it say the scrund was true? False? This
Did the scrund say that something else took itsd name from the dessert? No
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Was the comment stated by one of the terrorists? By one of the possible victims? By someone else?
Did the comment have a spoken form? written form?
Did the comment result in terrorists realising they were to attack the wrong place?
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Was the comment stated by one of the terrorists? By one of the victims? This By someone else?
Did the comment have a spoken form? This written form?
Did the comment result in the terrorists realising they were to attack the wrong place? YES!
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So, the scrund was that name of something refers to place A, while in fact it refers to place B. Once terrorists plan to attack place A, mistakenly assuming it is place B. One of the victims says a comment proving that the scrund is false and terrorists realise they're in wrong location. Is that correct?
Was place B dangerous? Did the scrund save many people's lives just by making them go to place A rather than place B?
Is any of these two places famous? If yes, is it famous because of the dessert?
Did the scrund take its beginning from the dessert?
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is the confusion because there is more than one place with this name? two towns? a town and a country/state?
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Did the terrorists base their decision of where to attack on some intelligence they had gained? For example, a coded message that included the name of the dessert?
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So, the scrund was that name of something refers to place A, while in fact it refers to place B. No. The terrorists realized there was no use attacking that place (only 1 place) after hearing the verbal comment.
Once terrorists plan to attack place A, mistakenly assuming it is place B. No, see above
One of the victims says a comment proving that the scrund is false Yes and terrorists realise they're in wrong location No, they realize there's no use attacking the place. Is that correct?

is the confusion because there is more than one place with this name? No, and FA two towns? a town and a country/state?

Did the terrorists base their decision of where to attack on some intelligence they had gained? No For example, a coded message that included the name of the dessert? No
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Did terrorists assume there was something valuable in the place? Something famous? Something of political value?
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Did terrorists assume there was something valuable in the place? No Something famous? No Something of political value? Yesish
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is the dessert fairly well known throughout the world?

does it have a Middle Eastern name?
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Is the dessert fairly well known throughout the world? Yes
Does it have a middle eastern name? OTWT. The name of the dessert itself is not really important and it can be translated to virtually any language
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Is the dessert named after a person?
Is something else named after the dessert?
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Is the dessert named after a person? No
Is something else named after the dessert? No

When I say "dessert", I'm saying in the broad sense. So, for example: imagine you're having lunch. You start with a "salad", then have "pasta" and, for dessert, "...".

The scrund was about the name of something closely related to the dessert, NOT the name of the dessert itself.

HINT: the scrund saved those people for many years. One day, an event happened (in real life) that changed everything: from that day on, that same scrund would make the place a target for the terrorists. What was the event?
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Do we need a generic name of some sweets that can come as dessert - like "chocolate" or "ice cream"?
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Was it a sporting event? Olympics?
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Do we need a generic name of some sweets that can come as dessert — like "chocolate" or "ice cream"? THIS!!!

Was it a sport event? Olympics? no to both
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Was it then ice cream? chocolate ice cream? vanilla? strawberry? Neapolitan?
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"Space" ice cream? (freeze dried ice cream such as the sort astronauts eat in space? they sell it at the Tech Museum of Innovation here in town...very yummy)
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Was it then ice cream? Yes chocolate ice cream? vanilla? strawberry? Neapolitan? The flavor is irrelevant.

"Space" ice cream? No (freeze dried ice cream such as the sort astronauts eat in space? they sell it at the Tech Museum of Innovation here in town...very yummy)
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the terrorists realised there was no point in attacking a place because Ice cream didn't come from there? was it an ice cream factory?
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the terrorists realised there was no point in attacking a place because Ice cream didn't come from there? No, OTWT was it an ice cream factory? No, but OTRT... Explore.
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Did the terrorists think the factory was making something it wasn't? Is the name of the factory relevant?
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Did the terrorists think the factory was making something it wasn't? FA Is the name of the factory relevant? FA
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Is specific type of ice cream relevant?
In the relevant place, is ice cream produced there? stored there? sold there? Please same questions according to the scrund. Is the place famous from ice cream?
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Is specific type of ice cream relevant? No, not the "type"
In the relevant place, is ice cream produced there? No stored there? No sold there? Yes Please same questions according to the scrund.
The scrund is about the name of something closely related to the ice-cream.
Is the place famous from ice cream? Yes
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Is ice cream sold there in a specific container? Served on special way?
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Is ice cream sold there in a specific container? No Served on special way? No
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Ice cream toppings relevant?
Is it a specific ice cream dish, like a sundae or banana split? Is something served with the ice cream relevant?
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is it another word for ice cream like kulfi or bouzat haleeb?

or a flavour?
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Ice cream toppings relevant? No
Is it a specific ice cream dish, like a sundae or banana split? No Is something served with the ice cream relevant? No

is it another word for ice cream like kulfi or bouzat haleeb? No

or a flavour? No
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is it ice?
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is it ice? no
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Did the scrund say that ice cream are not sold in that place? If yes, is it relevant why?
Are ice cream sold in that place and eaten there?
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Did the scrund say that ice cream are not sold in that place? No, the scrund is about a name. If yes, is it relevant why?
Are ice cream sold in that place Yes and eaten there? Some people eat there, other people eat elsewhere.
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Is it a hotel? A restaurant? a cafe? Do they sell only ice cream there?
Is the scrund about the name of the place where they sell ice cream? Name of the town where the place is located? Name of type of the ice cream? Like "italian ice cream"? "american ice cream"?
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Is it a hotel? A restaurant? a cafe? This...ish Do they sell only ice cream there? Yes
Is the scrund about the name of the place where they sell ice cream? Yope Name of the town where the place is located? No Name of type of the ice cream? Like "italian ice cream"? "american ice cream"? No, but OTRT
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tee hee - Neapolitan ice cream?
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tee hee - Neapolitan ice cream? No
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Was the scrund caused by the name of the cafe(ish)? By the name of the type of ice cream that is sold there? By the name of ice cream dessert that is sold there?
Could you please recap?
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Was the scrund caused by the name of the cafe(ish)? Yope
By the name of the type of ice cream that is sold there? DYOD of "type"... If you mean flavor, then No
By the name of ice cream dessert that is sold there? If you mean the name of a specific dessert made with ice cream, then No

Please feel free to give examples of what you're thinking on the 2 last questions.

Could you please recap? Sure

RECAP
A scrund about the name of something closely related to ice cream sold at a cafe-like place saved many people for many years. One day, a real life event took place and changed everything: from that day on, that same scrund would make the place a target for the terrorists. However, a simple comment prevented a terrorist attack from happening.


HINT #1: Imagine you want to have some ice cream but you don't have any at home. So you go out to buy it at a supermarket, cafe or some other place. You can choose your ice cream based on flavour, but also on something else...

HINT #2: What is the real-life event that turned the scrund from a "shield" into a potential "bomb"?
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Ice cream brand relevant?
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Low fat? Fat free?
Sugar free?
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Ice cream brand relevant? YES!!!

Low fat? Fat free?
Sugar free? No to all
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Dreyers? Breyers?
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frozen yoghourt?
Danielvs (Danielvs)
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Dreyers? Breyers? No to both

frozen yoghourt? No

HINT: remember that this happened in the Middle East. The ice cream brand must be sold there.
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So, is it a European brand? Algida (Glidat, Miko, Eskimo, Iglo)? Nestle? Schöller? Mövenpick? Does the brand name have a significant meaning in the terrorist's native language? is the logo of the brand relevant? an advertising slogan?
Was the event related to the brand? Was the brand purchased by another company? changed? did the logo change?
Is this brand sold only in one country (as far as Middle East is concerned)? if so, is this country Israel?
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So, is it a European brand? No Algida (Glidat, Miko, Eskimo, Iglo)? Nestle? Schöller? Mövenpick? No to all
Does the brand name have a significant meaning in the terrorist's native language? No
is the logo of the brand relevant? an advertising slogan? No to both
Was the event related to the brand? No Was the brand purchased by another company? Irr changed? No did the logo change? No
Is this brand sold only in one country (as far as Middle East is concerned)? No, it's sold worldwide if so, is this country Israel? No
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Ben & Jerry's? Haagen Daaz?
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Ben & Jerry's? No
Haagen Daaz? YES, Häagen-Dazs!

RECAP
Middle East. For many years, a scrund about the brand Häagen-Dazs protected its store from a terrorist attack. One day, a real-life event took place that turned the store into a potential target. However, one simple comment averted tragedy
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I've heard that the name "Häagen-Dazs" was chosen to sound Dutch, but invented by a group of Americans with no Dutch ancestry (if I remember rightly, they lived in New York).

So I'm guessing that the terrorists in question felt animosity toward the United States, and would have attacked a Pizza Hut or McDonald's, but not Häagen-Dazs because it didn't look English?

Was the "real-life event" something that revealed the U.S. origins of the brand? or did new terrorists come into being whose hatred was not specifically targeted at the U.S.?
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For many years the Häagen-Dazs logo showed a map of Denmark (for whatever reason, as the company is not in any way related to Denmark). So, muslim terrorists might have thought Häagen-Dazs is a Danish product, not an American, and did not target shops selling it. But then a Danish journal published some caricatures of the founder of Islam, and it came the terrorists to their minds that Häagen-Dazs is Danish. -- Right so far?
Still not clear, what event saved the ice cream shop. .. Häagen-Dazs removed any reference to Denmark from their logo .. is it that?
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I've heard that the name "Häagen-Dazs" was chosen to sound Dutch, but invented by a group of Americans with no Dutch ancestry (if I remember rightly, they lived in New York). See below

So I'm guessing that the terrorists in question felt animosity toward the United States, YES and would have attacked a Pizza Hut or McDonald's, but not Häagen-Dazs because it didn't look English? EXACTLY

Was the "real-life event" something that revealed the U.S. origins of the brand? No or did new terrorists come into being No whose hatred was not specifically targeted at the U.S.? No

For many years the Häagen-Dazs logo showed a map of Denmark (for whatever reason, as the company is not in any way related to Denmark).Yes So, muslim terrorists might have thought Häagen-Dazs is a Danish product, not an American, and did not target shops selling it. PERFECT! But then a Danish journal published some caricatures of the founder of Islam, and it came the terrorists to their minds that Häagen-Dazs is Danish. -- Right so far? WONDERFUL!
Still not clear, what event saved the ice cream shop. .. Häagen-Dazs removed any reference to Denmark from their logo .. is it that? No

Most of the puzzle is solved, so it's time for the...

***************SPOILER**********************
Häagen-Dazs is an American brand of ice creams, born in the 1920s in Bronx, New York. The name is considered to be a marketing strategy. As the company says in its website, the founder of the brand chose the name "...to convey an aura of the old-world traditions and craftsmanship to which he remained dedicated". Because of the double vowels, the "ä" and the spelling, most people end up thinking the brand is Scandinavian, mostly Danish. I myself was surprised when I learned it was actually American in origin.

Now to the puzzle:

Saudi Arabia. One day, Häagen-Dazs opened a store in the capital, Riyadh. Religious fanatics (terrorists) didn't think much of it, because they assumed it was Danish in origin. So, for many years, the store (and their buyers) were saved from an attack simply because of the scrund.
However, one day, a Danish newspaper published a cartoon which caused worldwide wrath in the Muslim community. From that day, instead of protecting the store, the scrund turned it into a potential target for the terrorists.
Planning is crucial. So the terrorists entered the Häagen-Dazs store as normal buyers to evaluate where a bomb should be placed in order to cause as much damage as possible. By sheer coincidence, at that point they heard a girl enjoying her ice cream and talking to her friend: "Come on, don't tell me you didn't know Häagen-Dazs is American!". The terrorists realized there would be no point attacking an "American place" in revenge to the Danish cartoon, and the attack was cancelled.


Kudos for all of you who participated. I hope you've enjoyed it! =)
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Interesting story and good puzzle, thanks.
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Very cool!
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I'm glad you liked it! =)

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