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Redwine (Redwine)
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Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2013 - 2:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lee would have lost everything, had there not been a nail.
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Lee: H/A/M? H/A/F?
Nail: Fingernail? Nail used with a hammer?
Everything: Everything s/he owns?
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Kayleetonkslupin:
Lee: H/A/M? This. H/A/F?
Nail: Fingernail? Nail used with a hammer? Thisish.
Everything: Everything s/he owns? Yes and...
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And his life? his family?
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Long shot in the dark: was he about to go down from a hill / mountain, but he was stuck in a nail, thus being "rescued"? At least OTRT?
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Nail on a roof stopped him when he lost footing and was sliding off the roof?
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Along with Deholmes' idea, had he been working on the roof with a nail gun? And shot himself accidentally while sliding down, pinning him to the roof?
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Kaylee:
And his life? Yes. his family? And yes.

Rbruma:
Long shot in the dark: was he about to go down from a hill / mountain, but he was stuck in a nail, thus being "rescued"? No. At least OTRT? I'm afraid no.

Deholmes:
Nail on a roof stopped him when he lost footing and was sliding off the roof? No.

Balin:
Along with Deholmes' idea, had he been working on the roof with a nail gun? And shot himself accidentally while sliding down, pinning him to the roof? And no again.
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Did the nail stuck out of something? did it prevent something from falling? sliding? moving? Did the nail hold two items together? prevented something from collapsing? Was the nail attracted by a magnet?
Did the nail interfere with a compass needle?
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Sundowner:
Did the nail stuck out of something? Noish, OTRT. did it prevent something from falling? sliding? moving? Did the nail hold two items together? prevented something from collapsing? Was the nail attracted by a magnet?
Did the nail interfere with a compass needle? No to the rest.
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Did the nail keep something stuck together? Would his home with everyone/thing in it have been destroyed, but for the nail? If so, destruction by: fire? Lightning? Gas explosion? Other explosion? Landslide? Sinkhole? Flood? Lava? Volcanic gas? Earthquake? Tsunami? Manmade disaster?
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Galfisk:
Did the nail keep something stuck together? No. Would his home with everyone/thing in it have been destroyed, but for the nail? Not destroyed, but he would have lost it all. If so, destruction by: fire? Lightning? Gas explosion? Other explosion? Landslide? Sinkhole? Flood? Lava? Volcanic gas? Earthquake? Tsunami? Manmade disaster?
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Lost: to someone else? Lost as in unable to find it? Did the nail damage something? Someone? Did something relevant get stuck on it? Would he have been arrested? Executed? Murdered? Killed?
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Would we also have lost everything?
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Galfisk:
Lost: to someone else? Yesish. Lost as in unable to find it? No. Did the nail damage something? Someone? This. Did something relevant get stuck on it? No. Would he have been arrested? Yes. Executed? Yes. Murdered? No. Killed? Yes.

Deholmes:
Would we also have lost everything? No.
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Would he have been executed for murder? robbery? treason?
Did he actually do the crime? Did the nail prove his innocence?
Did the nail stuck somewhere? was it hammered into something? did it lie on the ground? was it found in someone's belongings? was it in someone's body? (thinking of a surgery nail)
Was the nail made of steel? other metal?
Was its size less than one inch? less than two inches? five inches? ten inches? larger?
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Sundowner:
Would he have been executed for murder? Yope. robbery? No. treason? Noish.
Did he actually do the crime? No. Did the nail prove his innocence? No.
Did the nail stuck somewhere? Yes... was it hammered into something? Yes. did it lie on the ground? No. was it found in someone's belongings? Noish. was it in someone's body? YES. (thinking of a surgery nail) But not a surgery nail.
Was the nail made of steel? other metal? Not relevant.
Was its size less than one inch? less than two inches? five inches? ten inches? larger? Assume between 2 and 5 inches.
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please check your e-mail
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Checked and responded. Good thought, but no.
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Was the nail in a dead person's body? if so: did the person die because of the nail? or did the nail enter the body when the person was already dead?
Was the nail put there intentionally? or did it enter the body by accident?
Was it completely inside the body?
Was the nail involved in a criminal action? Was the nail used on purpose? if so: did it fulfil it purpose?
Would the man yopeishly have been executed for murder because the murder did not actually take place? Did the nail prevent a crime from happening?
Was it Lee who had the nail in his body?
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Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2013 - 3:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sundowner:
Was the nail in a dead person's body? Yes. if so: did the person die because of the nail? Yes. or did the nail enter the body when the person was already dead? So no.
Was the nail put there intentionally? Yes. or did it enter the body by accident? No.
Was it completely inside the body? No, DOYD of "completely".
Was the nail involved in a criminal action? Yes. Was the nail used on purpose? Yes. if so: did it fulfil it purpose? Yes.
Would the man yopeishly have been executed for murder because the murder did not actually take place? No, the murder took place. Did the nail prevent a crime from happening? Yope, explore.
Was it Lee who had the nail in his body? No.

Good questions!
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Would the dead person have: framed him for a crime? Involved him in a crime? Helped him with a crime? Arrested him? Prosecuted him? Executed him?
Was the nail hammered into his body? Shot with a nailgun? Shot with something else? Accelerated by an explosion?
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And by "his body" I mean the dead guy.
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Galfisk:
Would the dead person have: framed him for a crime? Involved him in a crime? This is relevant but...(see below) Helped him with a crime? Arrested him? Prosecuted him? Executed him?
...I think there is a FA in these questions.
Was the nail hammered into his body? This. Shot with a nailgun? Shot with something else? Accelerated by an explosion?
And by "his body" I mean the dead guy.
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Did Lee want to commit a crime? Did the dead person hammer the nail into himself? Did Lee do it? Did another person do it? Did the nail cause deadly: infection? Organ failure? Blood loss? Brain damage? Crucifixion relevant? Jesus? Had the dead man committed a crime? Was he nailed to death as revenge? Torture relevant?
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Galfisk:
Did Lee want to commit a crime? No. Did the dead person hammer the nail into himself? No. Did Lee do it? No. Did another person do it? Yes. Did the nail cause deadly: infection? Organ failure? Blood loss? Brain damage? This. Crucifixion relevant? Not to this puzzle. Jesus? Ditto. Had the dead man committed a crime? No. Was he nailed to death as revenge? Maybe as a minor reason. Torture relevant? No.
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Was the dead man planning a crime? Did Lee know the dead man? Do we need to know more about how the dead man was killed with the nail? Or why? Or who did it? Do we need to know more about the nail itself?
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Galfisk:
Was the dead man planning a crime? No. Did Lee know the dead man? No. Do we need to know more about how the dead man was killed with the nail? No. It was hammered into the man's head. Or why? No. Or who did it? Some aspects of this may be helpful. Do we need to know more about the nail itself? You may explore it or you may not, there is one more thing about the nail but you can solve the puzzle not knowing it. If it is not discovered, I will mention it in the $poyler.
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Was the man's head nailed to something?
Was Lee accused of having killed this man? or would Lee have killed him if the man had not been killed by someone else? Did Lee ever meet this man? Did Lee see him when he was already dead?
Was the man killed on a ship?
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Sundowner:
Was the man's head nailed to something? No.
Was Lee accused of having killed this man? No. or would Lee have killed him if the man had not been killed by someone else? No. Did Lee ever meet this man? No. Did Lee see him when he was already dead? Yes.
Was the man killed on a ship? No.
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If the crime had taken place, would the dead guy have been executed as well? Can we call him Martin? Were they planning to meet? Any people relevant except Lee, Martin and the guy with the nail? Was the nailguy an assassin? Relevant why he used this particular method? Relevant where he died? When Lee saw him, was he int he same place where he died?
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Galfisk:
If the crime had taken place, would the dead guy have been executed as well? No. Can we call him Martin? Sure. Were they planning to meet? Who? Any people relevant except Lee, Martin and the guy with the nail? Martin - the dead man with the nail in the head. Who is the guy with the nail then?
Was the nailguy an assassin? Please ask again when the confusion with the names is solved. Relevant why he (I assume murderer) used this particular method? Somehow. Relevant where he (I assume Martin) died? Yes. When Lee saw him (Martin), was he (Martin) in the same place where he (Martin) died? No.
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Sorry about the mess.
Is the murderer an assassin? any relevant people except Lee, Martin, and the murderer? Did Martin die: at home? At work? In a public place? On his way somewhere?
Did the murderer use this particular method because of: easily accessible tools? Non-conspicuous tools? Limited bloodiness? Low noise? Inconspicuous wound?
Is the profession of Lee relevant? Of Martin? Of the murderer?
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Galfisk:
Sorry about the mess. No problem at all.
Is the murderer an assassin? No. any relevant people except Lee, Martin, and the murderer? No. Did Martin die: at home? This. At work? In a public place? On his way somewhere?
Did the murderer use this particular method because of: easily accessible tools? This. Non-conspicuous tools? Limited bloodiness? Low noise? Inconspicuous wound? And this.
Is the profession of Lee relevant? Very much. Of Martin? No. Of the murderer? No, but...
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Is a hobby of the murderer relevant? An interest? An obsession? A mental issue?

Am I allowed to invoke the [LTPF list of professions] for Lee? I have it at home for quick-pasting, but not at work.

Did Lee find Martin's body? Was he asked to identify Martin? Did the murderer want to prevent the crime? Did he know a crime would be committed? Is the murderer a "he"? Adult? Human?
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Galfisk:
Is a hobby of the murderer relevant? An interest? An obsession? A mental issue? No to these.

Am I allowed to invoke the [LTPF list of professions] for Lee? I have it at home for quick-pasting, but not at work. Lee worked in law enforcement.

Did Lee find Martin's body? No. Was he asked to identify Martin? No. Did the murderer want to prevent the crime? No. Did he know a crime would be committed? Yope, explore. Is the murderer a "he"? Adult? Human? Human Adult Female.
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Did she suspect a crime would be committed? That something else bad would happen if Martin was left alive? Did she know Martin from before? Did she know Lee? Did she commit any crime in addition to this murder? Jealousy relevant? Did she murder Martin in order to silence him?
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Galfisk:
Did she suspect a crime would be committed? Possibly. That something else bad would happen if Martin was left alive? No, I think you have a FA about the crime. Did she know Martin from before? Yes. Did she know Lee? Yes. Did she commit any crime in addition to this murder? Lee suspected she committed another murder, what caused his interest in Martin's case. Nothing else is relevant. Jealousy relevant? No. Did she murder Martin in order to silence him? No.
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Was she married to Martin?
Did she kill Martin with a nail because it would look like an accident?
Was Lee suspected of having killed Martin? her? someone else?
Did Lee know her from before? was he in love with her? did he try to cover her crime(s)?
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Sundowner:
Was she married to Martin? Yes.
Did she kill Martin with a nail because it would look like an accident? Yes.
Was Lee suspected of having killed Martin? her? someone else? No to all.
Did Lee know her from before? Yes, explore. was he in love with her? No. did he try to cover her crime(s)? NO!
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Did he try to investigate her crime(s)? Did he suspect her of a crime? Did she know he'd lose everything if Martin stayed alive? Was Lee suspected of committing a crime?
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Galfisk:
Did he try to investigate her crime(s)? YES! Did he suspect her of a crime? Yes. Did she know he'd lose everything if Martin stayed alive? FA. Lee would have been perfectly well and happy if Martin had stayed alive. Was Lee suspected of committing a crime? No.
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Would Lee had lost everything if: the nail wasn't found? The nail had been removed? Some other murder method had been used? If so: if an even less conspicuous method had been used? If a more conspicuous method had been used? Did she want to frame Lee for murder? Did she want the death to look accidental? Inexplicable?
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Galfisk:
Would Lee had lost everything if: the nail wasn't found? Yes. The nail had been removed? Yesish. Some other murder method had been used? Possibly. If so: if an even less conspicuous method had been used? Yes. If a more conspicuous method had been used? Possibly but less likely. Did she want to frame Lee for murder? No. Did she want the death to look accidental? This or natural causes. Inexplicable?
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Would it be correct to say that Lee would've been found guilty of murder, if Martin's death had been deemed natural? Or accidental? Would he have been blamed for Lee's death? Someone else's? Hers? Did she die? Can we call her Sarah?
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Galfisk:
Would it be correct to say that Lee would've been found guilty of murder, if Martin's death had been deemed natural? No.Not of murder. Or accidental? Ditto. Would he have been blamed for Lee's death? You mean Martin's death? Lee would not have been blamed for anyone's death. Someone else's? Hers? Did she die? Yes. Can we call her Sarah? Sure.
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Ah, so Lee would've been found guilty of something else? Was he suspected for a crime when the murder happened? Was he on trial for a crime when it happened? Did Martin want Lee to be found guilty of a crime? Did she want Lee to be found guilty of a crime? Would Lee have committed a crime, had not the nail been found?
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Galfisk:
Ah, so Lee would've been found guilty of something else? Yes indeed. Was he suspected for a crime when the murder happened? No. Was he on trial for a crime when it happened? No. Did Martin want Lee to be found guilty of a crime? No. Did she want Lee to be found guilty of a crime? Yes. Would Lee have committed a crime, had not the nail been found? Yope, explore.
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Did the nail prove lee's innocence? Did the nail hold anything together? Was it lying loose? attached to something?
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Deholmes:
Did the nail prove lee's innocence? Yes. Did the nail hold anything together? Was it lying loose? attached to something? It was in Martin's head.
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RECAP & Hints:
Martin was murdered by his wife - she hammered the nail into his head. Because of the method she used, Martin's death seemed natural or at most accidental.
Lee, who worked in law enforcement, suspected the woman had committed another crime and was investigating the case. In between he became suspicious about the Martin's death and investigated this too. Lee found the nail in Martin's head.
If Lee had not found the nail, he would lost his life, his family and all his possessions. He would have been found guilty of a crime (but not for murder or causing death). The nail proved his innocence. He could have faced the same negative consequences if the nail had been removed or if he could not have otherwise determined Martin was murdered.
Exploring time and place may be worth trying.
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Would his conviction&execution be connected to the other crime he suspected her of? Was the suspected crime also murder? Was the murder of her husband connected to: the suspected crime? The suspicion from Lee? Something else relevant? Time: 2000's? 1900's? 1800's? Earlier? Place: Europe? North America? South America? Africa? Asia? Oceania?
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Galfisk:
Would his conviction&execution be connected to the other crime he suspected her of? Very indirectly connected. There's no need to explore her other crimes. Was the suspected crime also murder? Yes. Was the murder of her husband connected to: the suspected crime? The suspicion from Lee? No to these. Something else relevant? About her other crimes - no. Details about investigation upon Martin's death are relevant. Time: 2000's? 1900's? 1800's? Earlier? This. Place: Europe? North America? South America? Africa? Asia? This. Oceania?
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China? Japan? 1700's? 16? 15? 14? 13? 12? Earlier? Lee's alleged crime: treason? Blasphemy? Some crime with a milder punishment today? Something which is not a crime today?
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Galfisk:
China? Yes. Japan? 1700's? 16? 15? 14? 13? 12? Earlier? 7th century. Lee's alleged crime: treason? Blasphemy? No to these. Some crime with a milder punishment today? Yope. Something which is not a crime today? Yope.
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Alleged crime: related to money? To people in power? Government? Military? Money? Trade?
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Galfisk:
Alleged crime: related to money? To people in power? Government? Military? Money? Trade? No to all.
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Would the alleged crime be connected to his job as a policeman? Would the punishment be worse because he was a policeman? Withholding evidence relevant? Lying? Corruption?
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Galfisk:
Would the alleged crime be connected to his job Yes. as a policeman? He was not a policeman. Would the punishment be worse because he was a policeman? No. I would say he would have been punished DESPITE OF working in law enforcement. Withholding evidence relevant? Lying? Corruption? No to these.
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Would anyone, in any line of work, who came across a dead body in the course of performing his or her job, be potentially accused of the crime that Lee could have been? Would the finding that the body was the result of a murder (committed by someone other than the relevant professional, of course!) always be a defense to this crime?

Does the crime consist of the failure to perform a certain duty? of negligently exposing others to potentially lethal danger?

Had Lee not been able to prove that a murder had happened, would others have thought that Martin died as the result of a suicide? an accident? Does it matter which, in terms of Lee's guilt for the crime of which he would have been accused?
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Biograd:
Would anyone, in any line of work, who came across a dead body in the course of performing his or her job, be potentially accused of the crime that Lee could have been? Yes, but "coming across a dead body" is not accurate in this case. Would the finding that the body was the result of a murder (committed by someone other than the relevant professional, of course!) always be a defense to this crime? Not always. Explore. There can be a FA behind these questions.

Does the crime consist of the failure to perform a certain duty? Noish. of negligently exposing others to potentially lethal danger? Yes, one other, explore.

Had Lee not been able to prove that a murder had happened, would others have thought that Martin died as the result of a suicide? No. an accident? Possibly. Does it matter which, in terms of Lee's guilt for the crime of which he would have been accused? No. For Lee it was that either he proves murder or he is in big trouble.
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was he a pathologist?
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Shez:
was he a pathologist? No, but very much OTRT. There is autopsy involved.
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Is he involved in a medical profession? is he present at the autopsy? Is he performing the autopsy? The person he's accused of exposing to danger: the deceased? The killer? Someone not already mentioned?
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Galfisk:
Is he involved in a medical profession? No. is he present at the autopsy? Yes. Is he performing the autopsy? No, but... The person he's accused of exposing to danger: the deceased? The killer? This. Someone not already mentioned?
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Is he overseeing the autopsy? Is he looking for evidence of murder? Is he already being accused of exposing the woman to danger at this point? Lethal danger?
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Galfisk:
Is he overseeing the autopsy? Yes. Is he looking for evidence of murder? Yes. Is he already being accused of exposing the woman to danger at this point? Lethal danger? Well, there is no particular moment of accusation. This is rather that Lee constantly knows that either he proves murder, or is found guilty of crimes (HINT) punished very severely. Formally he would have been accused by his supervisors after having sent them the report of investigation.
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Has he done something relevant to the killer? Chased her? Jailed her? Injured her? Exposed her to danger? Has he done things that would only be justifiable if he could prove she was a killer?
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Galfisk:
Has he done something relevant to the killer? Yes, and you already know what. Chased her? Jailed her? Among others, this... Injured her? And this, not personally but ordered this... Exposed her to danger? ... this too. Has he done things that would only be justifiable if he could prove she was a killer? YES!
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If the nail had not been found, would he have been punished for doing all those things to an innocent person? Is there something special about her, that makes what he did more serious? Is she rich? Famous? Royalty? Similar? Is she accusing him? Suing him? Reporting him to his superiors? Something equivalent?
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Galfisk:
If the nail had not been found, would he have been punished for doing all those things to an innocent person? Yes. Is there something special about her, that makes what he did more serious? No. Maybe only the fact she was not afraid of investigation. Is she rich? Famous? Royalty? Similar? Is she accusing him? Yes. Suing him? I think in China 7th century there was no difference. Reporting him to his superiors? No, he himself had to report superiors. Something equivalent?

It's more or less everything, couple of details are missing.
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Missing details: exactly what he did to her? Why she killed her husband? Any details about her other crime? Why she wasn't afraid of the investigation? Something else?
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Galfisk:
Missing details: exactly what he did to her? This, and also something connected with investigation. No to the rest. Why she killed her husband? Any details about her other crime? Why she wasn't afraid of the investigation? Something else?
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Did he do the relevant things to: her? Her belongings? Her home? Is a funeral relevant? Did he prevent her husband from being buried, or burned? Relevant what he ordered others to do?
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Galfisk:
Did he do the relevant things to: her? Her belongings? Her home? No to these. Is a funeral relevant? Yes. Did he prevent her husband from being buried, or burned? No, but very much OTRT. Buried, not burned. Relevant what he ordered others to do? We know all which is relevant: he conducted investigation and ordered autopsy.
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Did he interrupt funeral proceedings? Did he arrest her at the funeral? Accuse her at the funeral? Do something else relevant/horrible-if-she-was-innocent at the funeral?
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Galfisk:
Did he interrupt funeral proceedings? Did he arrest her at the funeral? Accuse her at the funeral? Do something else relevant/horrible-if-she-was-innocent at the funeral? No to all. The deceased had already been buried from some time when he did this.
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Relevant how the body was exhumed? Or when? Or by whom? Was it taboo to do so? Or illegal? Did he accuse her before it was exhumed? During? After? Relevant?
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Galfisk:
Relevant how the body was exhumed? Or when? Or by whom? It is relevant that it was exhumed - and that was the last missing part. Was it taboo to do so? Or illegal? THIS. Did he accuse her before it was exhumed? Yes. During? After? Relevant? Not so much.

************SPOILER*****************
This is one of the cases solved by Judge Di, ancient Chinese jurist (historical figure). At the time when he lived (7th century), the judge did all the law enforcement in his area: investigation, prosecution, trial and judgment. He could not convict anyone without his or her confession.
Investigating one of his cases, he became suspicious about sudden death of Martin, which happened some time ago, when someone else was the judge in that area. Immediately after death, there was autopsy conducted (in that times, autopsies were limited to external examination of the body), but showed nothing and the death was considered natural. But Judge Di suspected Martin's wife of having murdered her husband.
Judges must have been very careful in their accusations, because according to Chinese law in that times, someone who accused innocent person, was subjected to the same punishment, that accused would have faced if found guilty. Judge Di accused the woman, questioned her in court and even subjected her to tortures (which was legal). But she was arrogant, did not confess and made the local society very angry against Judge Di. The judge ordered another autopsy to be conducted and that meant the body needed to be exhumed. If the exhumation turned out to be justified, everything would be OK, but if not - the judge would have been guilty of grave profanation, punished very severely that times.
So, Judge Di found himself in the situation that either he finds undoubtful proof of murder, or he is charged with unjustified accusation and grave profanation. That was punished with very unpleasant death, confiscation of all his belongings and infame for whole family.
Then Judge Di found the tiny head of the nail among the deceased's hair and whole affair finished well for him. That was the nail commonly used by Chinese women to make holes while sewing something from thick materials (like repairing shoes).
The story is taken from one of the stories about Judge Di, written by Robert van Gulik. The author composes his stories from genuine ancient cases and fictional characters and motives.


Thanks for playing, especially Galfisk for lots of work and solving the puzzle.

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