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Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 5:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Blettingers, who had always seemed like a totally devoted and faithful couple, told their teenage children, "We're getting a divorce, but, if you take the whole picture into account, you won't feel bad." The parents were right. How come?
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Won't feel bad in the sense of won't feel upset? Won't feel guilty?

By 'take the whole picture into account', did they mean 'if you understand the reasons why we are getting a divorce'? Are there going to be some positive consequences of the divorce? Would there be negative consequences if they didn't get one? Relevant why they are getting divorced? Are they still in love with each other when they do? Were they ever really devoted and faithful?

Relevant how many children they have? Anything relevant about their children?
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on't feel bad in the sense of won't feel upset? yes Won't feel guilty?yes

By 'take the whole picture into account', did they mean 'if you understand the reasons why we are getting a divorce'? noAre there going to be some positive consequences of the divorce? no Would there be negative consequences if they didn't get one? no Relevant why they are getting divorced? noAre they still in love with each other when they do? no Were they ever really devoted and faithful? yes

Relevant how many children they have? no Anything relevant about their children? no
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Is there a specific reason why the children would feel bad or guilty about the divorce, other than the fact that those are common feelings for children whose parents are divorcing?

Just to check - the Blettingers are a married couple? A male-female couple? Who are actually going to get a divorce?

Do the children live with their parents? Relevant which of the parents will get custody? Relevant what the home situation was like before the divorce?
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Relevant what the home situation will be like after the divorce? Will one parent move? Both? Neither? Will either remarry? Relevant? Age of the children relevant? Money involved?
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Will the Blettingers remain a devoted and faithful couple after divorcing?
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Will they continue to live together? with the children? after divorce? Will they gain something from their divorce? financially?
Do they want to divorce for tax reasons? are they residents? nationals? of different countries?
Do they (or does one of them) plan to marry again? Do they plan to marry each other again a while after divorce? (maybe one of them gets benefits at the job when he/she marries?)
Do they expect that life will become in any respect easier for the children if their parents are not married (to each other)?
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Is there a specific reason why the children would feel bad or guilty about the divorce, other than the fact that those are common feelings for children whose parents are divorcing?no

Just to check - the Blettingers are a married couple? yesA male-female couple? irrel Who are actually going to get a divorce? no. GOOOOOOOOOOOD QUESTION!!!

Do the children live with their parents? yes Relevant which of the parents will get custody?n/a Relevant what the home situation was like before the divorce? yes
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Relevant what the home situation will be like after the divorce?/a Will one parent move? no Both? noNeither? yes Will either remarry? no Relevant? yes Age of the children relevant? no Money involved? no
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Will the Blettingers remain a devoted and faithful couple after divorcing? no
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Will they continue to live together? yeswith the children? yesafter divorce? no Will they gain something from their divorce? n/afinancially?n/a
Do they want to divorce for tax reasons? no are they residents? nationals? of different countries? no
Do they (or does one of them) plan to marry again? noDo they plan to marry each other again a while after divorce? no (maybe one of them gets benefits at the job when he/she marries?) no
Do they expect that life will become in any respect easier for the children if their parents are not married (to each other)? no
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Did their children know that they were not in fact getting a divorce? Does 'the whole picture' mean the fact that they were not really getting one? Is there a particular person or group of people they want to think they are divorcing?
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Are the parents being divorced? Is someone else? Are they lawyers, getting to work with a divorce case?
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Did their children know that they were not in fact getting a divorce? see next answerDoes 'the whole picture' mean the fact that they were not really getting one? yesIs there a particular person or group of people they want to think they are divorcing? yope
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Are the parents being divorced? no Is someone else? irrelAre they lawyers, getting to work with a divorce case? no
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Do the children at any point believe that their parents are getting a divorce? Do the parents want the children to somehow figure out that they are not?
Are they trying to teach their children a lesson? Do they say something like "We're getting a divorce! No, just kidding, you just have to do your homework, bet that doesn't seem so bad by comparison!" (I heard a joke along these lines).
Is it relevant why they choose NOT to get a divorce, if they are no longer in love with each other?
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Do the children at any point believe that their parents are getting a divorce?yes Do the parents want the children to somehow figure out that they are not?yes
Are they trying to teach their children a lesson?yope or noish Do they say something like "We're getting a divorce! No, just kidding, you just have to do your homework, bet that doesn't seem so bad by comparison!" (I heard a joke along these lines). no
Is it relevant why they choose NOT to get a divorce, if they are no longer in love with each other? n/a
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Prior to the announcement, did the children have any reason to believe their parents might get divorced?

Are the children the only people to whom the parents pretend they are divorcing?
Was it some kind of test of the children?
Was their some benefit to the children temporarily believing their parents were divorcing? Did the parents provide hints to show the children that it wasn't true?
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Prior to the announcement, did the children have any reason to believe their parents might get divorced? no

Are the children the only people to whom the parents pretend they are divorcing? yes
Was it some kind of test of the children?yesish
Was their some benefit to the children temporarily believing their parents were divorcing? no Did the parents provide hints to show the children that it wasn't true? yope
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Were the children fighting or having some family issues and the parents wanted to give them a reality check?
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Were the children fighting or having some family issues and the parents wanted to give them a reality check? no
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trying to work out the timescales...

so the parents told the children they were getting a divorce? and then told them that actually they were not getting a divorce? the period of time between these two statements - a few seconds? less than 10 mins? less than an hour? less than a day? less than a week? less than a month? less than a year?

did the parents hope that the children would take some action based upon their statement of intent to get a divorce? did they hope the children would say something? was the parents' purpose to see the reaction of the children? to make them respond in a particular way?
did the children do anything relevant? say anything?
did the parents tell the children they weren't divorcing as a response to how the children had reacted to the first statement?

was it a punishment of some sort? a warning? an example?
had the children said something to precipitate the parents' comment? done something?
were the parents trying to make the kids feel bad for something they had done? or make them realise how they had upset their parents?
had the children said something of a similar type to the parents?
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trying to work out the timescales...

so the parents told the children they were getting a divorce? yesand then told them that actually they were not getting a divorce? yes the period of time between these two statements - a few seconds? possibly less than 10 mins? yes less than an hour? less than a day? less than a week? less than a month? less than a year?

did the parents hope that the children would take some action based upon their statement of intent to get a divorce? no did they hope the children would say something? no was the parents' purpose to see the reaction of the children?noidsh or yope to make them respond in a particular way? yesish
did the children do anything relevant? possibly but not necessarilysay anything? ditto
did the parents tell the children they weren't divorcing as a response to how the children had reacted to the first statement? yesish

was it a punishment of some sort? no a warning? no an example? no
had the children said something to precipitate the parents' comment? nodone something? no
were the parents trying to make the kids feel bad for something they had done? no or make them realise how they had upset their parents? no
had the children said something of a similar type to the parents? no
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Did the children realise that the parents weren't getting a divorce before the parents told them? Did they feel bad at first? Were they upset?
Was there something about the situation that should have let the kids know their parents weren't divorcing? If so, something they could see? Something the parents said? Something that the children already knew?

Was it a joke?
Did the parents hope that the children would learn something from the experience?
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Did the children realise that the parents weren't getting a divorce before the parents told them? possiblyDid they feel bad at first? possiblyWere they upset?possibly
Was there something about the situation that should have let the kids know their parents weren't divorcing? Yes --GOOOOOOOOD QUESTION!!! If so, something they could see? no Something the parents said? noSomething that the children already knew? yes

Was it a joke? yes--now just figure out why the kids should have realized this, which shouldn't be hard
Did the parents hope that the children would learn something from the experience? noish
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Was it April Fool's Day? (Sounds like a pretty nasty joke to play...) Did the family have a history of joking with each other?
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Was it April Fool's Day? yes (Sounds like a pretty nasty joke to play...) It wasn't, because the parents expected the kids to catch on right away Did the family have a history of joking with each other? Yes, esp. on April Fools' Day
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When the Blettingers, who had always seemed like a totally devoted and faithful couple, told their teenage children, "We're getting a divorce, but, if you take the whole picture into account, you won't feel bad," they expected the children to take into account that it was April Fools' Day. I'm glad this puzzle got solved before Monday!! Please check out my new one.

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