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Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 - 10:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

5 francs.
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Did someone pay someone else 5 francs? Did someone owe someone else 5 francs? Did someone own 5 francs? Was it a price?
Could it have been 5 dollars? 5 pounds? Value equal to 5 francs in other currency?
Did someone die?
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Did someone pay someone else 5 francs? No Did someone owe someone else 5 francs? Yesish Did someone own 5 francs? Irr Was it a price? Yes
Could it have been 5 dollars? 5 pounds? Value equal to 5 francs in other currency? Possibly; in this specific situation, it was 5 francs though Did someone die? Yes
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Did someone pay someone else 5 francs? No Did someone owe someone else 5 francs? Yesish Did someone own 5 francs? Irr Was it a price? Yes
Could it have been 5 dollars? 5 pounds? Value equal to 5 francs in other currency? Possibly; in this specific situation, it was 5 francs though Did someone die? Yes
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If 5 francs had been paid, would the person have lived?
Was the dead person the seller? The buyer? Are more people relevant? Did more than one person die?
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If 5 francs had been paid, would the person have lived?Yes. Good question.
Was the dead person the seller? No The buyer? Yesish Are more people relevant? Yes Did more than one person die? No
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If 5 francs had been paid, would the person have lived?Yes. Good question.
Was the dead person the seller? No The buyer? Yesish Are more people relevant? Yes Did more than one person die? No
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The buyer at the moment of death: H? A? M?
The seller: H? A? M?
Other relevant persons: 1? 2? 3-5? 5-10? 10-100? More than 1000?
Did the buyer in fact steal from the seller? Did the buyer want to pay the seller?
Is it relevant what did the buyer take from the seller?
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The buyer at the moment of death: H? A? M? All three
The seller: H? A? M? Irr
Other relevant persons: 1? This 2? 3-5? 5-10? 10-100? More than 1000?
Did the buyer in fact steal from the seller? No Did the buyer want to pay the seller? Yes

Is it relevant what did the buyer take from the seller? Yes, with a possible FA lurking

Oh, and a BLOOPER - the buyer was, in fact NOT the dead person; to put it right, there are three persons
1) the dead person, who is HAM
2) the buyer, also HAM
3) the seller.

Sorry for that.
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The buyer at the moment of death: H? A? M? All three
The seller: H? A? M? Irr
Other relevant persons: 1? This 2? 3-5? 5-10? 10-100? More than 1000?
Did the buyer in fact steal from the seller? No Did the buyer want to pay the seller? Yes

Is it relevant what did the buyer take from the seller? Yes, with a possible FA lurking

Oh, and a BLOOPER - the buyer was, in fact NOT the dead person; to put it right, there are three persons
1) the dead person, who is HAM
2) the buyer, also HAM
3) the seller.

Sorry for that.
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Had something been stolen, taken without permission?
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Had something been stolen, taken without permission? Neither
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Is method of payment relevant?
Did the buyer buy food?
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Was the dead person murdered? if so: did the buyer? the seller? witness the murder?
Are the francs French? Swiss? Belgian? Luxembourgian? other? any particular 5 franc coin or bank note relevant?
Is the phrase "cinq francs á pièce" relevant? i.e. goods are sold from bulk at very low price? stolen goods?
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Is method of payment relevant? Noish
Did the buyer buy food? No
Was the dead person murdered? No if so: did the buyer? the seller? witness the murder?
Are the francs French? This Swiss? Belgian? Luxembourgian? other? any particular 5 franc coin or bank note relevant? No
Is the phrase "cinq francs á pièce" relevant? Noi.e. goods are sold from bulk at very low price? No stolen goods? No
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Did the situation take place in the shop? If yes, is it relevant what type of shop it was?
Did the seller not accept the payment for some reason? Did something happen that made payment impossible?
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Did the situation take place in the shop? Which situation exactly? If yes, is it relevant what type of shop it was? Yes, crucial
Did the seller not accept the payment for some reason? Yesish, worth exploring Did something happen that made payment impossible? Yesish, very much OTRT
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was a franc no longer worth a franc? was the franc no longer legal tender?
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Did the seller sell the buyer an item? More than one item? A service? Parking ticket? Cloakroom ticket? Was 5 francs an entrance fee? Did the buyer get it despite of the lack of payment?
Was the payment impossible because of the action of the seller? the buyer? the third person? Something independent to any of them? Could the seller? the buyer? the third person? expect the impossibility of the payment?
Is it relevant how much time elapsed between the transaction and the death? Was the third person present during the transaction?
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was a franc no longer worth a franc? No was the franc no longer legal tender?No, there was nothing wrong with the franc

Did the seller sell the buyer an item? Yes More than one item? No A service?Noish Parking ticket? No Cloakroom ticket? No Was 5 francs an entrance fee? No Did the buyer get it despite of the lack of payment? No
Was the payment impossible because of the action of the seller? Assume this; it is not really relevant whether it was the seller's or the buyer's fault, the important thing is that the payment did not take place the buyer? the third person? Something independent to any of them? Could the seller? the buyer? the third person? expect the impossibility of the payment? No
Is it relevant how much time elapsed between the transaction and the death? Very much so; no need to determine the exact time span though, it is important in more general terms Was the third person present during the transaction? No, and this is important, too
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If the buyer have stealt the item, would the third person have lived?
Time between transaction and death: seconds? minutes? hours? days? weeks? months? years?
Was the dead person related to the seller? the buyer? complete stranger?
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If the buyer have stealt the item, would the third person have lived? Um.. difficult to answer. It is possible but it would depend on the subsequent development of events which would be completely different than the given scenario
Time between transaction and death: seconds? minutes? hours? days? weeks? This months? years?
Was the dead person related to the seller? No the buyer? Yes complete stranger? No
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Did the third person die for the lack of the item that the buyer finally did not get? Did the buyer want to buy the item for himself? For the third person?
Was the shop a meat shop? grocery? traffic shop? boutique with clothes? boutique with shoes? bakery? sweets shop? petrol station? pharmacy? shop with cosmetics? chemical shop?
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Did the third person die for the lack of the item that the buyer finally did not get? Yes Did the buyer want to buy the item for himself? No For the third person? Yes. Good questions!
Was the shop a meat shop? grocery? traffic shop? I am not sure what a traffic shop is boutique with clothes? boutique with shoes? bakery? sweets shop? petrol station? pharmacy? shop with cosmetics? chemical shop? No to the rest
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a hadware store? any kind of food shop? motor accessory shop? greetings cards? bookshop?
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a hadware store? any kind of food shop? motor accessory shop? This is closest, no to rest greetings cards? bookshop?
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Could the buyer have gotten the item on different occassion? Was the item a safety equipment?
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Could the buyer have gotten the item on different occassion? Noish Was the item a safety equipment? Yes
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Does one wear the item? Put it on the motor? Keep it "just in case"? Is it a tool?
Is it relevant why it could have been obtained only on this one occassion?
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Does one wear the item? Yes, no to the rest Put it on the motor? Keep it "just in case"? Is it a tool?
Is it relevant why it could have been obtained only on this one occassion? I suspect a FA lurking; definitely worth exploring though
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Is it worn on the head? hands? feet? legs? arms? torso?
Was the third person the buyer's child? Other family? Friend? Is their relation relevant?
Did the third person take part in a road accident?
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Is it worn on the head? This hands? feet? legs? arms? torso?
Was the third person the buyer's child? Other family? Friend? This Is their relation relevant? There is something more to be found about it
Did the third person take part in a road accident? Yesish
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is it a safety helmet?
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is it a safety helmet? It is indeed!
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Is 5 francs a standard (normal) price for helmet? Could the third person have bought the helmet by himself? Did the third person? the buyer? want only the one, specific helmet?
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Is 5 francs a standard (normal) price for helmet? No Could the third person have bought the helmet by himself? No Did the third person? Yesish the buyer? want only the one, specific helmet?
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Safety as in a warrior's helmet? modern or ancient?
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Safety as in a warrior's helmet? Please rephrase modern This or ancient?
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kevlar helmet?
did this helmet have special meaning to him?
Did it save him or someone else from death?
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kevlar helmet? No
did this helmet have special meaning to him? Noish
Did it save him or someone else from death? On the contrary
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Could the third person afford the helmet? Was the helmet bought via internet? Did the helmet previously belong to someone? someone special?
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Could the third person afford the helmet? Yes Was the helmet bought via internet? No, but.. Did the helmet previously belong to someone? No someone special? No
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Was the helmet the cause of someones death? Was the death of historical importance giving it monetary value?
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was the lack of a safety helmet the cause of someone's death
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Was the helmet the cause of someones death? See below Was the death of historical importance giving it monetary value? Irr
was the lack of a safety helmet the cause of someone's death Yes!

Good job! There is yet to be established how the 5 francs come into this.
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The Buyer wanted to buy The Third Person (friend) a safety helmet for the price of 5 francs. But due to some reason the payment did not occur so he did not get the helmet. The lack of helmet caused death of The Third Person in the road accident within weeks from the incomplete purchase.
The Third Person could afford the helmet. He wanted that one particular helmet with (with an ish) could not have been bought on the other occasion. Is this correct?
Do we need to find out why exactly the purchase was incomplete? Why the cost of helmet was 5 francs which is not the standard price for helmet?
Was the helmet sent to the Buyer through the mail?
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The Buyer wanted to buy The Third Person (friend) a safety helmet Yes for the price of 5 francs No. But due to some reason the payment did not occur so he did not get the helmet Yes, with svv of "payment". The lack of helmet caused death of The Third Person in the road accident within weeks from the incomplete purchase. Exactly so
The Third Person could afford the helmet. Yes He wanted that one particular helmet with (with an ish) could not have been bought on the other occasion. Is this correct? So far, yes, with one exception as I noted above
Do we need to find out why exactly the purchase was incomplete? Yes Why the cost of helmet was 5 francs which is not the standard price for helmet? No, and FA
Was the helmet sent to the Buyer through the mail? It was not sent to him at all (we have already established he did not get it); otherwise, it would have indeed been sent by mail
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Was the 5 francs the price for something else, connected with the purchase? If yes: postal service? Bank fee? Package cost?
Should 5 francs be paid before purchase? After purchase?
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Was the 5 francs the price for something else, connected with the purchase? YesIf yes: postal service? This Bank fee? Package cost?
Should 5 francs be paid before purchase? After purchase? I think upon or after purchase

Almost there! if you do the final recap I'll spoyle
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So, The Buyer wanted to buy The Third Person (friend) a safety helmet. But he did not pay 5 francs for postal service. The purchase was not complete, so he did not obtain the helmet. The Third Person wanted that one particular helmet with (with an ish) could not have been bought on the other occasion. The lack of helmet caused death of The Third Person in the road accident within weeks from the incomplete purchase.
Is there anything else to find out?
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So, The Buyer wanted to buy The Third Person (friend) a safety helmet. But he did not pay 5 francs for postal service. The purchase was not complete, so he did not obtain the helmet. The Third Person wanted that one particular helmet with (with an ish) could not have been bought on the other occasion. The lack of helmet caused death of The Third Person in the road accident within weeks from the incomplete purchase.
Is there anything else to find out?



No, that's just perfect, and here goes the

***********************SPOILER**************

This is based on a real event. The Third Person was, in fact, a famous 1920's Czech automobile racer Vincenc Junek. In July 1928, he participated in the famous Nuerburgring race in Germany. He had his friend buy a helmet for him in Paris already in June, but the company by mistake failed to charge the 5 francs for the delivery, and therefore they never mailed the helmet. Junek decided to risk and go without it. His car went off course and Junek hit a rock, broke his unprotected skull and died on the spot.

This day marked the end of the career of another great racer - Junek's wife Elisabeth who was one of the few female racers of that time, often outdid her male competitors and was nicknamed "the Queen of the Steering Wheel" decided to withdraw from the world of racing for good.

Thank you all for puzzling, and especially Redwine for making it to the final lap !

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