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Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2013 - 7:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gay marriage is legal in Corella's's enlightened state, but there is something the state forbids her to do with her wife, even with her wife's consent, that she would be permitted to do with her child. How come?
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Does it have to do with the laying on of hands?
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Does the gender of the child make any difference? the age? whether 'natural' or adopted?
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give her her surname?
anything medical relevant?
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Does it have to do with the laying on of hands? no
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Does the gender of the child make any difference? nothe age? yes whether 'natural' or adopted? no
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give her her surname? no-- There's no reason why a gay spouse can't take the other's surname.
anything medical relevant? no{
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Would a straight woman be able to do this thing with her husband? With a boyfriend?

Is it relevant exactly how old the child is? Or just that they are a child? If the former, are they a baby? Under 5? Under 10? Under 15? Under 18?

Could she do this with somebody else's child?

Relevant that a parent has certain legal responsibilities over a child, whereas an adult is free to act as they wish?
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Would a straight woman be able to do this thing with her husband? no With a boyfriend? no

Is it relevant exactly how old the child is?yope Or just that they are a child? no If the former, are they a baby? possibly Under 5? possiblyUnder 10?yes Under 15? Under 18?

Could she do this with somebody else's child? yes

Relevant that a parent has certain legal responsibilities over a child, whereas an adult is free to act as they wish? no
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If Corella did this thing with her child, would it also be accurate to say that the child was doing it with Corella? Does it involve going somewhere with the child? Giving something to the child? Buying something for the child? Would anyone else be involved? Is education involved? Health?

Is there a specific age at which Corella would stop being able to do this with her child? If so, age 6? 7? 8? 9? 10?

Is the fact that Corella is gay actually relevant to this puzzle?
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If Corella did this thing with her child, would it also be accurate to say that the child was doing it with Corella? noish Does it involve going somewhere with the child? yes Giving something to the child? noBuying something for the child? noWould anyone else be involved? yopeIs education involved? noHealth? no

Is there a specific age at which Corella would stop being able to do this with her child? no If so, age 6? 7? 8? 9? 10?

Is the fact that Corella is gay actually relevant to this puzzle? Not one smidgeon-- GOOOOOOOOD QUESTION!!!
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Is the physical size of the child relevant? As the child grows older, will Corella at some point stop being able to do this thing?

Does it involve going to a particular country? Town? To a public place? Somewhere indoors? Outdoors? A shop? A restaurant?

Is Corella's age relevant? Her wife's age? Should we find out anything more about Corella? About her wife?

In other states, would Corella be able to do this with her wife (or with her husband, in a state that doesn't allow gay marriage)?
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Is the physical size of the child relevant? yesAs the child grows older, will Corella at some point stop being able to do this thing? yes

Does it involve going to a particular country? no Town? noTo a public place? yes Somewhere indoors? yesOutdoors? noA shop? noA restaurant? no

Is Corella's age relevant? no Her wife's age? noShould we find out anything more about Corella? no About her wife? no

In other states, would Corella be able to do this with her wife (or with her husband, in a state that doesn't allow gay marriage)? no
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Is it going somewhere specifically for children? Some kind of play area? Somewhere with a height restriction? Somewhere that involves fitting into a small space? Crawling through a small gap? Going under something? Through something? Is it the height of the child that is relevant? Their weight? Their width? If Corella's wife were the height of a 5 year old, could Corella do this thing with her wife?
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Is it going somewhere specifically for children? no Some kind of play area? noSomewhere with a height restriction? noSomewhere that involves fitting into a small space? noCrawling through a small gap? no Going under something? no Through something? Is it the height of the child that is relevant? noishTheir weight? noTheir width? noIf Corella's wife were the height of a 5 year old, could Corella do this thing with her wife? no
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Ok...is it the size of a particular part of the child's body that is relevant? Are children's clothes relevant?

Is the place some kind of commercial enterprise? A hospital? Church? Hall? Tourist attraction? Government building?
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Is the child's sex relevant?
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Ok...is it the size of a particular part of the child's body that is relevant? no Are children's clothes relevant? noish

Is the place some kind of commercial enterprise? noA hospital? no Church? noHall? noTourist attraction? no Government building? yes
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Is the child's sex relevant? no
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OK...trying to think of a way in which a child's size is relevant, but not their height, weight, width, or the size of part of their body...is it just the fact that they look like a child? Ie it wouldn't work with a very small adult because they would still be recognisable as being an adult?

Does Corella go somewhere with her child where only children are allowed? Where adults would not be allowed without a child? Does she use the child to get sympathy?

Does the building house politicians? A government public service? Is it related to finance? To documentation? Immigration?
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OK...trying to think of a way in which a child's size is relevant, but not their height, weight, width, or the size of part of their body...is it just the fact that they look like a child? yes Ie it wouldn't work with a very small adult because they would still be recognisable as being an adult? yes

Does Corella go somewhere with her child where only children are allowed? noWhere adults would not be allowed without a child? no Does she use the child to get sympathy? no

Does the building house politicians? no A government public service? yope Is it related to finance? noTo documentation? no Immigration? no
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Is the building a school? If so, can she access the school in the company of her daughter, but not alone/with her wife?
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Is the building a school?possibly If so, can she access the school in the company of her daughter, but not alone/with her wife? no
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Could Corella go to this place alone? Is it somewhere where an adult not accompanied by a child would look suspicious? Is child protection relevant?
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Could Corella go to this place alone? \b {yes}Is it somewhere where an adult not accompanied by a child would look suspicious? noIs child protection relevant? no
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Is there any other adult that Corella would be able to go with?

Would doing this thing involve watching her child do something? Supporting her child? Is it something where space is limited, so only one adult per child is allowed, or something along these lines?
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Is there any other adult that Corella would be able to go with? no

Would doing this thing involve watching her child do something? no Supporting her child? noIs it something where space is limited, so only one adult per child is allowed, or something along these lines? no
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Could a child go to this alone? Could a group of children go? If Corella had many children, could she go with all of them? Could she go with her child and a friend of her child?

Is it something like 'bring your child to work day'? Would doing this thing be a treat for the child? An unpleasant experience?
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Could a child go to this alone? no Could a group of children go? see next answerIf Corella had many children, could she go with all of them? noCould she go with her child and a friend of her child? probably

Is it something like 'bring your child to work day'? {yopeWould doing this thing be a treat for the child? possiblyAn unpleasant experience? very unlikely
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Does Corella work at the place she would take her child to? When they go to this place, would Corella interact with anyone relevant? Would the child interact with anyone relevant?

Could Corella do this thing with her child whenever she wanted? Only on a set day? Would the aim be to educate the child about something? To give the child a new experience? To show them something? Would it be part of a wider scheme? Is the reason that Corella couldn't do it with her wife that it is something particularly designed for parents to do with their children?
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Does Corella work at the place she would take her child to? no When they go to this place, would Corella interact with anyone relevant? yesWould the child interact with anyone relevant? no

Could Corella do this thing with her child whenever she wanted? noOnly on a set day? yes. GOOOOD QUESTION!!!!|Would the aim be to educate the child about something? possibly To give the child a new experience? ditto To show them something? dittoWould it be part of a wider scheme? possiblyIs the reason that Corella couldn't do it with her wife that it is something particularly designed for parents to do with their children? noish
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Is it entering a voting booth?
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Is it entering a voting booth? yes

********** SPOILER **************
Corella is allowed to take her child (under about 8) but not her wife into the voting booth with her.This is actually my second puzzle whose solution involves children in voting booths, but the first was so long ago that few of the same people are still on the forum. I promise that my new puzzle is not about voting booths -- please check it out.
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Oh, clever! I remember being taken into the voting booth by my grandparents when I was about 6, and it wasn't until 10 years later that I next saw a voting booth from the inside.
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Not by both grandparents together, I trust!
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No - I guess it was my grandpa, but I'm not sure. Or maybe both, but one after the other, not at the same time.
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I think the completely off-the-wall red herring about gay marriage was great - congratulations!!
Loved it!
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Thanks -- please check out my others!!

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