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Balin (Balin)
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And I may lapse into song-parody-answers at times, especially since I have the Broadway connections puzzle up. But this is a typical versponse, still:

In verse I write to you,
In verse, reply.
This task you must accept,
Do not deny.
Two crimes I'm thinking of,
One thing the same.
This question is the puzzle that I pose,
Now play my game!
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Mystify, listify,
Balin the Puzzler says
"Two crimes I'm thinking of" -
Thanks very much.
Generic activities
Criminological?
Specific instances?
Pure double Dutch?

As some day it may happen that a crime must be defined,
There happens to exist a comprehensive list.
Crimes by people who were certainly of sound or unsound mind,
Though their lawyers might insist they were either stoned or pissed.
Now if you want to play a game then I'm the man for you,
So what I want to know (and I must bid you tell me true):
Of the felonies and torts and misdemeanors on the list,
Which ones should not be missed by a cogent analyst?

Or if crimes that are specific's what is wanted,
They occur to me in dozens and in scores -
Crops genetically modified are planted,
And weapons sold to both sides in the wars.
We didn't give much thought to what was lacking
For generations yet to bear the curse.
It turns out we didn't have to. Now we're fracking -
"You'll have energy, my children. Could be worse."

This one thing that turns out the same -
A tangible object by name?
An abstraction? Idea?
(I should clarify here
I am burbling. The whisky's to blame.)
Balin (Balin)
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Mystify, listify,
Balin the Puzzler says
"Two crimes I'm thinking of" -
Thanks very much.
Generic activities
Criminological?
Specific instances?
Pure double Dutch?

Puzzlety wuzzlety,
Woubit of Pedantry
Asks of the nature of
Crimes I've conceived.

Both illegalities
Incontrovertibly
Fall in "specific", so
Please don't be peeved.


As some day it may happen that a crime must be defined,
There happens to exist a comprehensive list.
Crimes by people who were certainly of sound or unsound mind,
Though their lawyers might insist they were either stoned or pissed.
Now if you want to play a game then I'm the man for you,
So what I want to know (and I must bid you tell me true):
Of the felonies and torts and misdemeanors on the list,
Which ones should not be missed by a cogent analyst?

Today is now the day in which a crime must be defined,
So thank you for the list, or surely I'd have missed
Finding categories named to which these actions are assigned.
Now, puzzlers, I insist: Here's their spots upon the list.
The first illegal action falls in "forgery" for sure;
Though other crimes committed here? I'm sure there's plenty more.
And the second is a drug transgression; must you now persist?
This stanza doth persist of their places on the list.


Or if crimes that are specific's what is wanted,
They occur to me in dozens and in scores -
Crops genetically modified are planted,
And weapons sold to both sides in the wars.
We didn't give much thought to what was lacking
For generations yet to bear the curse.
It turns out we didn't have to. Now we're fracking -
"You'll have energy, my children. Could be worse."

Yes, specific crimes are where you should be searching,
Within the categories found above.
From drunken men in public trashed and lurching,
To those whose acts aren't speakable thereof.
(That's only an example, not the answer,
So don't keep alcohol upon the mind.
Think wisely; you'll be surely an advancer
In lateral thought; solutions you shall find.)


This one thing that turns out the same -
A tangible object by name?
An abstraction? Idea?
(I should clarify here
I am burbling. The whisky's to blame.)

Both an object and action are present
In this similar "thing", and unpleasant
Will your minds be, believe me:
Just fail to perceive me?
You're cooked, like the goose and the pheasant.
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Specific crimes. Times?
(the usual list, but hist -
take care that it rhymes).
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Specific crimes. Times?
(the usual list, but hist -
take care that it rhymes).

The times, say? Today,
This century, sir. They were
Not old or passť.
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Were some drugs forged and fake(if drugs are relevant at all)?
A trick made by some drug makers?
That was to look like the real bake?
But sadly, for the waiting dealers,
They found out they were tricked by cheaters,
And this is what got them in this confusing state?
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Were some drugs forged and fake(if drugs are relevant at all)?
A trick made by some drug makers?
That was to look like the real bake?
But sadly, for the waiting dealers,
They found out they were tricked by cheaters,
And this is what got them in this confusing state?

While drugs can be found in this tale, they are real;
Not faked with white flour, with plaster, with meal.
But be more specific when naming these drugs,
Just listen to brain thoughts, suggestions, or tugs.
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Are the drugs smoked? Drunk? Injected?
Is there drug trafficking involved?
Did they go mostly undetected ,
Or has their case been neatly solved?
Or were they a plain medicament,
Coming to dismal predicament?
As for the second crime, I see
That it is, clearly, forgery.
Iíll take a sip now from my flask,
And then I boldly stand and ask,
(But I donít want to be berated):
Were the two crimes somehow related?
If so, is it by place, or time?
(I add this line now just for rhyme).
Or perhaps by the same offender,
(Iím not sure, though, of the gender).
Balin (Balin)
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Are the drugs smoked? Drunk? Injected?
Is there drug trafficking involved?
Did they go mostly undetected ,
Or has their case been neatly solved?
Or were they a plain medicament,
Coming to dismal predicament?

The drugs are injected. No trafficking (though
That is OTRT, which I thought you should know).
The "case"? I'm not sure what you're trying to say,
And for detectability, clarify, eh?
(See, by being specific on that little bit,
You've got much better chances to solve part of it.)



As for the second crime, I see
That it is, clearly, forgery.
Iíll take a sip now from my flask,
And then I boldly stand and ask,
(But I donít want to be berated):
Were the two crimes somehow related?
If so, is it by place, or time?
(I add this line now just for rhyme).
Or perhaps by the same offender,
(Iím not sure, though, of the gender).

The crimes are both different, with little to share
Save the one thing I want you to pluck from the air.
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I asked as I all along
assumed (but I may be wrong),
that the drugs were illegalĎuns,
(As they are more deadly than guns).
Therefore I thought that a cop
Might strive to put this to a stop.
This was why I used the word ďcaseď,
Which I will have now to efface.

Do we have to know the exact name
Of that drug, or is it all the same?

The thing in common Ė object/action:
They are unpleasant, you suggest?
Or is it that I wrongly guessed
And misunderstood your reaction?
Balin (Balin)
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I asked as I all along
assumed (but I may be wrong),
that the drugs were illegalĎuns,
(As they are more deadly than guns).
Therefore I thought that a cop
Might strive to put this to a stop.
This was why I used the word ďcaseď,
Which I will have now to efface.

The drugs are illegal indeed, so don't try 'em,
But some of our citizens still want to buy 'em.


Do we have to know the exact name
Of that drug, or is it all the same?

No medical name should be uttered or spoken,
But know what the drug is; that might be your token.


The thing in common Ė object/action:
They are unpleasant, you suggest?
Or is it that I wrongly guessed
And misunderstood your reaction?

It's not unpleasant, not at all,
But find the crimes, and that should clear
Up any problem, gaffe, or fall
That you just might experience here.
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What was forged, I'd like to know:
money, documents, cheques or so,
pieces of art of value great
or something else, as I'm afaid?
Is the criminal the same?
Or two villains are to blame?
Or even more culprits we should find?
Were there victims to keep in mind?
Balin (Balin)
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What was forged, I'd like to know:
money, documents, cheques or so,
pieces of art of value great
or something else, as I'm afaid?
Is the criminal the same?
Or two villains are to blame?
Or even more culprits we should find?
Were there victims to keep in mind?

A document is what was faked,
So keep your thinking sound.
No victims bled, were wounded, ached;
Two villains can be found.
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Please don't abandon this to fade
Or crumble slowly into lint.
To keep attention firm and staid,
I'll give you all a simple HINT.

Both crimes are those which students can
Be often perpetrators of.
Now think of this, each woman, man,
As off on track you smoothly shove!
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I take it these students are of legal age
and have reached the college stage
Are drugs consumed in their dorm
or is at a party more the norm.

Maybe it's the type that makes me cringe
with spoon and flame and sharp syringe
Or those that as the story goes
involve some powder,banknote and a nose.

My experience of drugs is not a lot
In my late teens I once tried pot
I was young and foolish that's my tale
unlike Bill Clinton I did inhale.

I'll go ahead and ask straight out
Is marijuana the correct shout
I'm working on the following assumption
the crime's not dealing but about consumption.

For now I'll stop and give up the ghost
questions about forgery in my next post.
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I take it these students are of legal age
and have reached the college stage

For one crime, though, you may be shaken
To find this statement is mistaken.


Are drugs consumed in their dorm
or is at a party more the norm.

These drugs at parties? Never, sir!
In dorm rooms? Sometimes, as it were.
But there's a place more common still
Where drugs are taken of free will.


Maybe it's the type that makes me cringe
with spoon and flame and sharp syringe
Or those that as the story goes
involve some powder,banknote and a nose.

As well you might have just suspected,
The drugs are typically injected.


My experience of drugs is not a lot
In my late teens I once tried pot
I was young and foolish that's my tale
unlike Bill Clinton I did inhale.

And now that you have left your youth,
Much unlike Bill, you told the truth.

Apologies if that rhyme makes you feel old. I just needed a rhyme for "truth"...


I'll go ahead and ask straight out
Is marijuana the correct shout

You're asking me if smoking pot
Is one of these? Afraid it's not.


I'm working on the following assumption
the crime's not dealing but about consumption.

Correct; the students do consume
The drugs by needle poke, not fume.
But dealing's somewhat relevant.
(I hope your brain's not fried or spent.)


For now I'll stop and give up the ghost
questions about forgery in my next post.
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What do the students major in?
Is it law? Science? Medicine?
Do they do the drugs just for fun?
Or is their goal a nobler one?
Is an experiment at stake,
A sacrifice for Mankindís sake?

Or can it be that itís the teachers
Injecting drugs in those poor creatures,
In hospital or in a lab
Do they their students often stab?
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My assumption about age was wrong it seems
Are the students less than 12 or in their teens?
And do they some documents make
that purport to be real but are actually fake
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What do the students major in?
Is it law? Science? Medicine?

No matter what the talk or chatter,
Their major simply doesn't matter.


Do they do the drugs just for fun?
Or is their goal a nobler one?
Is an experiment at stake,
A sacrifice for Mankindís sake?

There's no experiment, and there's
A purpose to their drug affairs.
But "noble"? Not a chance, no way!
So no experiment's in play.


Or can it be that itís the teachers
Injecting drugs in those poor creatures,
In hospital or in a lab
Do they their students often stab?

You think their teachers them inject?
You're on a track that's incorrect.


My assumption about age was wrong it seems
Are the students less than 12 or in their teens?

For crimes with forging documents, it's teens
Most often who will act by any means.


And do they some documents make
that purport to be real but are actually fake

Not quite. These documents, they do not make them,
But someone does it for them, then they take them.
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So are there two groups on the stage:
The first one - having legal age -
Are taking drugs? Please tell me still,
If they do so by their free will?

The younger ones then seem to take
Some documents which are a fake.
Are we to find Ė asks Uncle George -
Who does the papers for them forge?

Are the kids guilty of a crime
Or naive victims (just for rhyme)?
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So are there two groups on the stage:
The first one - having legal age -
Are taking drugs? Please tell me still,
If they do so by their free will?

The drugs are taken willingly,
A fact that's told most chillingly.


The younger ones then seem to take
Some documents which are a fake.
Are we to find Ė asks Uncle George -
Who does the papers for them forge?

There can be several forgers, true,
But one's important. Find out who.
Be wary taking shots in dark,
The who might be a question mark.


Are the kids guilty of a crime
Or naive victims (just for rhyme)?

While not, though, "kids," they do have guilt,
No matter what your slant or tilt.
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Are the documents that are fabrications
telling a lie about qualifications?
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Are the documents that are fabrications
telling a lie about qualifications?

No
go.
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Are the fake documents for sale?
Is the rogue adult? Human? Male?
And can you tell me if the tort
Involves a thing like school report?

And is it, as I understood,
for a bad reason, not a good?
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Are the fake documents for sale?
Is the rogue adult? Human? Male?

The documents are purchased, ,
Specific-made for every buyer.
The buyer can be "he" or "she";
The maker, too, but don't perspire.
This purchase, though, may be the key
To solving this perplexity.


And can you tell me if the tort
Involves a thing like school report?

Not like that a bit;
That is none of it.


And is it, as I understood,
for a bad reason, not a good?

Correct, it's done to aid the crime, the payment made with zeal.
The perpetrators, though, would say it's not that big a deal.
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Can it be
That they make
a fake
ID?
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Can it be
That they make
a fake
ID?

My answer, friend, is sure to please:
The documents are fake IDs.
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Is there an advantage to gain
For those who were prone to feign?
And if so, did they so engage
To add themselves some years of age?

In short, did every ID's holder
Want to make him-or herself older?
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Is there an advantage to gain
For those who were prone to feign?
And if so, did they so engage
To add themselves some years of age?

In short, did every ID's holder
Want to make him-or herself older?

The motive for this purchase is irrelevant, I'm sad to say.
But one crime's been determined; find the other, and you'll do OK.
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Does the student who takes the injection
Aim at marks close to perfection?
In other words, is our poor buddy
Taking the drugs because of study?
Is he injecting his ounce or gram
To fight his sleep, and rather cram?
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Does the student who takes the injection
Aim at marks close to perfection?
In other words, is our poor buddy
Taking the drugs because of study?
Is he injecting his ounce or gram
To fight his sleep, and rather cram?

The drugs are taken, not for cramming,
But something else, and much more damning.
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Do they take drugs of a certain sort
To improve their achievements in a sport?
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Do they take drugs of a certain sort
To improve their achievements in a sport?

Indeed, this is the reason for
The drugs: to boost athletic score.
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Is this all that we were to find?
Or is there any other kind
Of information? Are there more
Questions left for us to explore?
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Is this all that we were to find?
Or is there any other kind
Of information? Are there more
Questions left for us to explore?

Remember what I said at start,
And take these words at once to heart:
Both crimes, when searching through and through,
Have one thing common 'tween the two.
What is that thing? Once that is stated,
Your curiosity is sated.
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Is the thing
They have in common
A place? A person?
Or a time?
For I am stuck
And I'd give a buck
For your thoughts
(Or any
rhyme.)
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Is the thing
They have in common
A place? A person?
Or a time?
For I am stuck
And I'd give a buck
For your thoughts
(Or any
rhyme.)

I hope that this will aid volition:
It has to do with acquisition.
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Were the papers and the drugs
Delivered by the same thugs?
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Were the papers and the drugs
Delivered by the same thugs?

No they weren't; that's not the track,
But I will try to bring you back.
There's not one single incident;
That's not at all just what I meant.
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Do dealers travel far away
Or close to home with bargain stay?
Do they place packs in local mews?
Are there some vehicles in their use?
A postal service do they take,
when their bargain is at stake?
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Do dealers travel far away
Or close to home with bargain stay?
Do they place packs in local mews?
Are there some vehicles in their use?
A postal service do they take,
when their bargain is at stake?

Because I like my answers tense,
This info here I will condense.
The mail is where you need to search,
Or else you're left back in the lurch.
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For their success or for their fail
Did the villains use the mail?
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For their success or for their fail
Did the villains use the mail?

Yes, the drugs and fake IDs
Were sent by mail. Now be at ease:
Delve deeper in these packaged goods,
And soon you will have left the woods.
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Can I this mystery unwind
By seeing a postman behind
These two stories full of vice,
Who always rings the doorbell twice?
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Can I this mystery unwind
By seeing a postman behind
These two stories full of vice,
Who always rings the doorbell twice?

The postman doesn't mean a bit.
Your track? There's something wrong with it.
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may I haz a recat please?
reading this puzzle, my brain haz squeezed.
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may I haz a recat please?
reading this puzzle, my brain haz squeezed.


The crimes we have determined, true:
It's fake IDs and steroids too.
Connection: something with the mail.
Now figure out this curious tale.
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Since no one's posting, I suppose
I'll recap this, but just in prose.


RECAP:

The two crimes that share a similarity are steroid use and using fake IDs. They share a connection involving the mail, but not involving the postman.

There's been a persistent FA that I'll now correct: I am not referring to one specific use of steroids or one specific use of fake IDs, but the crimes in general.

As a hint, focus on the line "Delve deeper in these packaged goods."
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Is the thing of import here
The packages' own livery?
Or should instead I focus on
the method of delivery?
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Is the thing of import here
The packages' own livery?
Or should instead I focus on
the method of delivery?

The packages are what you need to surely focus on.
Keep following this lead; on you the answer's sure to dawn.
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This information's not enough.
Ask more? - ok, I'm game:
Are the parcels made of stuff
That looks, for both, the same?
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This information's not enough.
Ask more? - ok, I'm game:
Are the parcels made of stuff
That looks, for both, the same?

Like normal parcels, say they're made
Of cardboard stiff and sturdy.
They certainly appear the grade...
Or is there something dirty?
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Pray tell, even reveal,
My fellow rookie veteran of the LTPF nation,
Does the illicit or the illegal
Fall prey to external contamination?
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Pray tell, even reveal,
My fellow rookie veteran of the LTPF nation,
Does the illicit or the illegal
Fall prey to external contamination?

Sad, your thirst has not been sated;
Nothing is contaminated.
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These packages continue to
Confuse me, I confess.
Perhaps it's rather more to do
With stamps? Or the address?
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These packages continue to
Confuse me, I confess.
Perhaps it's rather more to do
With stamps? Or the address?

It's not the stamps, nor the address.
(But that was not an awful guess.)
The packages themselves are what
You need to get this puzzle shut.
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Since you have ruled out many a toxin
And given us a new focus,
Is it an envelope, or the singular of "boxen",
Or something closer to hocus-pocus?
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And yet still is my brain kinda hurty
Because of your reference to 'dirty'
Are these parcels of grime?
Or does 'dirty' mean 'crime'?
Or mean nowt, and you're just being flirty?
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Since you have ruled out many a toxin
And given us a new focus,
Is it an envelope, or the singular of "boxen",
Or something closer to hocus-pocus?

The IDs and athletic toxin
Are sent in normal cardboard boxen.

Props for the Brian Regan reference.


And yet still is my brain kinda hurty
Because of your reference to 'dirty'
Are these parcels of grime?
Or does 'dirty' mean 'crime'?
Or mean nowt, and you're just being flirty?

The parcels themselves are of criminal state;
Think of how, and you'll solve this, before it's too late.
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There's a time limit now?!
I wonder if I'm
Going to figure out how
To finish on time!

-----

So help me out, mate,
On this criminal state:
Has the cardboard itself
Once been nicked off a shelf?

Is it somehow a thing
Tied with criminal string?
Or inside of the box
Is there something which shocks?

Clearly drugs and IDs
Are as bad as you please,
But I get from your text
That more things have us vexed?

So tell me this, bard:
Besides contents and card
Is there something else boxed
That till now has us foxed?
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There's a time limit now?!
I wonder if I'm
Going to figure out how
To finish on time!

There is no limit to the time;
I needed just a word to rhyme.


-----

So help me out, mate,
On this criminal state:
Has the cardboard itself
Once been nicked off a shelf?

The cardboard is hot?
i'm afraid it is not.


Is it somehow a thing
Tied with criminal string?

Do not think of the string,
That irrelevant thing.


Or inside of the box
Is there something which shocks?


This couplet in blue
Is the section that you
Should inquire about
So you figure this out.


Clearly drugs and IDs
Are as bad as you please,
But I get from your text
That more things have us vexed?

Just the drugs, the IDs,
And the packages, please.
Wait - I've just had a thought.
See below - yes, you ought.


So tell me this, bard:
Besides contents and card
Is there something else boxed
That till now has us foxed?

It his just now occurred
That I've misled my word.
Something else is inside,
Which is used just to hide
The true use of the boxes.
(A plan cunning, like foxes.)

Now to spare your next query,
That item will vary
By seller or person.
So your mood doesn't worsen,
I'll add some more detail:
It's often of retail,
Innocuous, common,
To fool any lawman.
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Inside these 'ere parcels of trouble
There be common-or-garden-type rubble?
Polystyrene or plastic?
Foam, paper, elastic?
More cardboard? Or packing of bubble?

Conversely, now could it be said
That inside is an item instead
Which appears to have worth,
But to criminals' mirth,
Just deceives like a herring that's red?
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Inside these 'ere parcels of trouble
There be common-or-garden-type rubble?
Polystyrene or plastic?
Foam, paper, elastic?
More cardboard? Or packing of bubble?

I can tell
It's irrel.


Conversely, now could it be said
That inside is an item instead
Which appears to have worth,
But to criminals' mirth,
Just deceives like a herring that's red?

This does lack
The right track.

HINT: Think about what I mean by "inside the package".
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Would an invoice or receipt
Be such means of "deceit"?
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Would an invoice or receipt
Be such means of "deceit"?

In only one way: it would say "for the thing",
Not "for drugs or ID cards", or that sort of bling.
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If I were to make parcels myself, of the sort
That we've talked about here in this thread,
Then for one, I'd need drugs, and for t'other I ought
To locate some Fake IDs instead.

But what else would I need, if my criminal bent
Were to take me along this bad way?
I'm sure I'd need cardboard, before it was sent?
And some tape to make sure it would stay?

A pencil or pen, I would surely need then,
To define the address on the front?
And a stamp at the end, so the kindly postmen
Would deliver it right where I want?

But besides these few things, nothing else seems to be
Utilised when the parcel's created.
But yet something exists? Because else I can't see
How this puzzle can ever be sated.

Unidentified object, oh what are you then?
Are you solid or liquid or gas?
Are you inside the box? Are you visible when
I look in? Do you have a great mass?

Are you inside yet further, oh object are you
Somehow part of the drugs and IDs?
Are you so far within that you're inside them too?
Tell me: why do you hide, you old tease?!
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Are you inside yet further, oh object are you
Somehow part of the drugs and IDs?
Are you so far within that you're inside them too?
Tell me: why do you hide, you old tease?!

This final paragraph is nearly there.
Recall this simple sentence, and take care:

The drugs and IDs are inside the package.

The unknown object you can just ignore;
You need it not to settle this, your score.
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So contents of boxen irrelevant be
Except that rogue viewers remain clueless
However, them that would be less naive
Would know what more searching would bring them success

I guess the question we should field
Is how the boxen proper did hide
And only to the learned did yield
The bonus yet ill value inside
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So there's item inside
Which serves only to hide
Tricky content, and that is the trap?
Is it private? Or dirty?
Falsely labelled? Or filthy?
In the manner noone dares to unwrap?
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So contents of boxen irrelevant be
Except that rogue viewers remain clueless
However, them that would be less naive
Would know what more searching would bring them success

I guess the question we should field
Is how the boxen proper did hide
And only to the learned did yield
The bonus yet ill value inside

How did the boxes the contraband hide?
That's the last question that I have supplied.


So there's item inside
Which serves only to hide
Tricky content, and that is the trap?
Is it private? Or dirty?
Falsely labelled? Or filthy?
In the manner noone dares to unwrap?

The item inside is a decoy so that
The drugs or IDs are not found.
I hope that this question will never fall flat,
And the answer will come at a bound.
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May I suggest, in short
That the decoy is of a sort
Which must be kept cold?
And insulating structure is instead a hold?
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May I suggest, in short
That the decoy is of a sort
Which must be kept cold?
And insulating structure is instead a hold?

Temperature means naught at all,
No insulation in this haul.
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Vexing, perplexing, intriguing to boot
Is there in the box a hidden latch
With which to access a secret hatch
To reveal the location of the loot?
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Vexing, perplexing, intriguing to boot
Is there in the box a hidden latch
With which to access a secret hatch
To reveal the location of the loot?

There is no latch, but close enough;
The rest is simply filler fluff.
No more stressing, no more fear:
Think I'm gonna call it here.

****SPOILER****

Because I'm sick from head to toes-
I think I shall explain in prose.

The two crimes are steroid use and possessing a fake ID. In some instances, when the drugs or ID cards are ordered through the mail, the company producing the illegal item will conceal it within the materials of the package and will put something innocuous in the package. (I read a story in a newspaper about one instance where the drugs were hidden in the decoy item itself, in fact.) So the thing they have in common is that they are hidden within the packages in which they are sent.

Nice Job King Louie (once Lzeiters) -
The rest of you were also fighters. (I hope I rhymed that right.)
Now this verse is just for show:
I'll end it here. New game below.
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Ah, ok, I'd gone off the scent after this bit:

Conversely, now could it be said
That inside is an item instead
Which appears to have worth,
But to criminals' mirth,
Just deceives like a herring that's red?

This does lack
The right track.


Because I thought that meant that there wasn't a 'red herring' innocuous item as a decoy to draw the attention of any onlookers away from the 'real' items.

Anyway, that was entertaining and a pleasant distraction from work :-) thanks!
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I meant there that the red herring item didn't actually hold any value. It deceived, but was not worth anything. Thanks - I had fun running that one.
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Very nice puzzle, and I'm quite impressed... Zeiters and 'fighters' is a perfect rhyme.
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Figured it had to rhyme with either "fighters" or "cheaters", and I'd always read it as the former.

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