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Hamilton (Hamilton)
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Hello all, I just found these forums and I'm practically addicted! I just had to try posting one myself. I think I have a pretty good grasp of the acronyms you use, but I'll just let you know if I'm not getting something.

He wished a policeman had pulled him over. Now he was going to be late to the wedding.
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Hi Hamilton, and welcome to the forum!

He = him = he?
H/A/M?

Is "the wedding" his own wedding? If not, is he a guest? someone who works at the wedding? Relevant whose wedding it is?

Had he been on time for the wedding if a policeman had pulled him over?

Was he in a car?
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He = him = he? he=he, but not him
H/A/M? All three for he and him

Is "the wedding" his own wedding? no If not, is he a guest? yes someone who works at the wedding? no Relevant whose wedding it is? irrel


Had he been on time for the wedding if a policeman had pulled him over? Assuming the "him" in the question is the same as the prompt, yes

Was he in a car? no
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Ok, so he wished that the police had pulled over someone else, right?

Was that someone else in a car?
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Ok, so he wished that the police had pulled over someone else, right? Yes

Was that someone else in a car?Yes
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Was he lost and if he saw a policeman he would have been told he was going the wrong way but now by going the wrong way he will be late?
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Was he lost and if he saw a policeman he would have been told he was going the wrong way but now by going the wrong way he will be late? Carefully with the 'hes', there are two of them! Either way, no.
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Was the him driving a taxi or limo?
Was the him driving the bride or groom?
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was the second "he" driving behind the first "he" who was driving too slowly?
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Was the him driving a taxi or limo? no
Was the him driving the bride or groom? no

was the second "he" driving behind the first "he" who was driving too slowly?no
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For the sake of simplicity, can we call the "he" Liam and the "him" Noel?

Liam is on the way to a wedding, right? Is he going by bike? bus? train? subway? plane? boat? on foot?

Is Noel involved with the wedding at all?

Were Liam and Noel near each other, location-wise, when this happened?
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For the sake of simplicity, can we call the "he" Liam and the "him" Noel? Sure.

Liam is on the way to a wedding, right? Yope Is he going by bike? bus? this one train? or this one, slightly irrelevant subway? plane? boat? on foot?

Is Noel involved with the wedding at all? Irrelevant

Were Liam and Noel near each other, location-wise, when this happened? No
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Is he yopishly on his way because he hasn't started his journey yet?

Are Liam and Noel in the same city when this happened?

Traffic jams relevant?
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Is he yopishly on his way because he hasn't started his journey yet? Yes

Are Liam and Noel in the same city when this happened? No

Traffic jams relevant? No
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If Noel had been pulled over would the bride or groom have been late thus giving Liam time to get to the wedding?
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If Noel had been pulled over would the bride or groom have been late thus giving Liam time to get to the wedding?
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If Noel had been pulled over would the bride or groom have been late thus giving Liam time to get to the wedding? no
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Is Liam in the city where the wedding is taking place? Is Noel?

Relevant how long the bus/train journey would have taken?

Is the time frame relevant? Relevant how much time passes between the start of Liam's journey and the start of the wedding?

Relevant where the bride and groom are at the time of puzzle?

Is anything else relevant about the wedding? Is it at all relevant that it's a wedding? Or could it also be, let's say, a birthday party?

Do Liam and Noel know each other?
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Is Liam in the city where the wedding is taking place? Is Noel? No to both

Relevant how long the bus/train journey would have taken? Yes

Is the time frame relevant? YesRelevant how much time passes between the start of Liam's journey and the start of the wedding? Yes

Relevant where the bride and groom are at the time of puzzle? No

Is anything else relevant about the wedding? NoIs it at all relevant that it's a wedding? NoOr could it also be, let's say, a birthday party? Pretty much. All that matters is that he'll be late to an event.

Do Liam and Noel know each other? Yes
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Is the event taking place in the real world ? any of the following relevant? TV? Skype? Viewing something on-line?

Is there a specific driving offence for which Liam hopes Noel gets pulled over for? Speeding? Drink Driving? Other rules of road infringements?
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Is the event taking place in the real world? Yes any of the following relevant? TV? Skype? Viewing something on-line? None relevant.

Is there a specific driving offence for which Liam hopes Noel gets pulled over for? Yes Speeding?This Drink Driving? Other rules of road infringements?

I should qualify that there are really three "events" in the puzzle: Noel not being pulled over, the moment of Liam's wish, and the wedding. Questions should make clear which event they're talking about, although it's been the same answer for all three so far.
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Was Noel actually speeding?

Wild guess: Did he cause an accident, the road had to be closed and Liam's bus had to make a detour?
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Was Noel actually speeding? Yes

Wild guess: Did he cause an accident, the road had to be closed and Liam's bus had to make a detour? No
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Do Liam and Noel communicate with each other at any point during the puzzle? You said they know each other. Are they relatives? friends? co-workers? acquaintances?

Would Liam's bus journey have taken less than 30 min? less than an hour? less than 2 hours? less than 5 hours? more than that?

Same questions for the time span between the start of the journey and the start of the event.
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Do Liam and Noel communicate with each other at any point during the puzzle? Yes You said they know each other. Are they relatives? this friends? co-workers? acquaintances?

Would Liam's bus journey have taken less than 30 min? less than an hour? less than 2 hours? less than 5 hours? more than that? see below

Same questions for the time span between the start of the journey and the start of the event. The bus takes three hours to get to the wedding and the wedding starts two hours and fifty minutes after the bus is scheduled to leave.
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Are they brothers? father/son? grandfather/grandson? cousins? uncle/nephew? brothers-in-law?

Does Liam call Noel? Does Noel call Liam? Do they text?

Would the bus journey have become shorter if Noel had been pulled over? Would the wedding have started later?
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Are they brothers? father/son? grandfather/grandson? cousins? uncle/nephew? brothers-in-law? Liam is Noel's father

Does Liam call Noel? Does Noel call Liam? Do they text? All three in all likelihood, but irrelevant

Would the bus journey have become shorter if Noel had been pulled over? No Would the wedding have started later? No
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This puzzle has seemed to stall, so I think it's time for a small hint to pick things up, hopefully.

HINT: The time between Noel not being pulled over and Liam being late for the wedding is several weeks.
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If Noel had been pulled over, would he have been fined? Would his driving licence have beed taken by the police?
Would Liam, as a result of Noel being pulled over, have a car at his disposal, therefore he wouldn't need to go to the wedding by bus/train?
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If Noel had been pulled over, would he have been fined? Yes Would his driving licence have beed taken by the police? No

Would Liam, as a result of Noel being pulled over, have a car at his disposal, therefore he wouldn't need to go to the wedding by bus/train? Yes, this is core reason he's late.
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Was the car Liam's? Noel's?
Was Noel obliged to give (back) the car to Liam after being fined?
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Was the car Liam's? Noel's? It was Liam's
Was Noel obliged to give (back) the car to Liam after being fined? He would (and did) give it back regardless of any fine.
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Was anyone using Liam's car at the same time that Liam was taking the bus to the wedding?

If so, was that 'anyone' Noel?


terribly disappointed that 'he' and 'him' weren't called 'Dean' and 'Jim' for rhyming happiness ;-)
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Was anyone using Liam's car at the same time that Liam was taking the bus to the wedding? no...

If so, was that 'anyone' Noel? ...so no
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At the time Liam went to the wedding...
...he took the bus because his car was unavailable for him to drive?
...he took the bus because although his car was available to drive, he didn't want to drive it due to some other issue?
...he would have preferred to have driven his car if it had been in ideal circumstances?

Was Liam a learner driver?
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Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 11:12 am:
At the time Liam went to the wedding...
...he took the bus because his car was unavailable for him to drive? yopishly no, see below
...he took the bus because although his car was available to drive, he didn't want to drive it due to some other issue? Yes, see below
...he would have preferred to have driven his car if it had been in ideal circumstances? Yes.
Answering these is tricking since it depends on what you mean by available. The car was physically there and functioning, but something kept him from driving it.


Was Liam a learner driver? No.
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feel free to ask for rephrase if question too convoluted to answer with yes/no! :-)

At the time Liam went to the wedding...
...he didn't take his car because of some 'issue', even though it was in working condition?
...he would have taken his car if this 'issue' was not present?

...the 'issue' was present (either directly or indirectly) because Noel wasn't stopped for speeding?
...therefore the 'issue' would not have been present if Noel had been stopped for speeding?
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At the time Liam went to the wedding...
...he didn't take his car because of some 'issue', even though it was in working condition? Yes
...he would have taken his car if this 'issue' was not present? Yes

...the 'issue' was present (either directly or indirectly) because Noel wasn't stopped for speeding? Yope
...therefore the 'issue' would not have been present if Noel had been stopped for speeding? Yes
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Was the vehicle interior "soiled"?
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Was the vehicle interior "soiled"? no
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Was the same 'issue' present when Noel drove the car?
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Was the same 'issue' present when Noel drove the car? no
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If Noel had just stopped for a sandwich, rather than being stopped for speeding, would the issue have been present on the wedding day?

If Noel had been stopped for speeding in a completely different car, would the issue have been present on the wedding day?
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If Noel had just stopped for a sandwich, rather than being stopped for speeding, would the issue have been present on the wedding day? Yes

If Noel had been stopped for speeding in a completely different car, would the issue have been present on the wedding day? No
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Was there some kind of a competition between Noel and Liam ? About who has less penalty points on the license ?

Some agreement between Noel and Liam about the use of the car relevant ?
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Was there some kind of a competition between Noel and Liam ? No About who has less penalty points on the license ? No, but OTRT

Some agreement between Noel and Liam about the use of the car relevant? No
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Does Liam wish Noel had been stopped for speeding because Liam wishes Noel had received:
- a fine?
- penalty points on his licence?
- an invitation to a speeding awareness course?
- a day in court?
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Does Liam wish Noel had been stopped for speeding because Liam wishes Noel had received:
- a fine?
- penalty points on his licence? This
- an invitation to a speeding awareness course?
- a day in court?
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Would penalty points on Noel's license have caused:
- Noel to be banned from driving?
- Noel to have to drive differently in future?
- Noel's insurance to have changed?
- Liam's insurance to have changed?
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Would penalty points on Noel's license have caused:
- Noel to be banned from driving?
- Noel to have to drive differently in future?
- Noel's insurance to have changed?
- Liam's insurance to have changed?
No to all
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Let me just check:

If Noel had received penalty points on his licence, then Liam would have driven Liam's car to the wedding?

Would this still have happened if Noel had received penalty points without being stopped (eg if he'd been captured on a speed camera and received penalty points in the mail)?
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Let me just check:

If Noel had received penalty points on his licence, then Liam would have driven Liam's car to the wedding? Yope

Would this still have happened if Noel had received penalty points without being stopped (eg if he'd been captured on a speed camera and received penalty points in the mail)? No, but VERY OTRT!
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Was Noel captured on a speed camera ? Did the penalty points go on Liam's license because the car belonged to Liam ? Was that why Liam could not drive the car ?
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Was Noel captured on a speed camera ? Did the penalty points go on Liam's license because the car belonged to Liam ? Was that why Liam could not drive the car ?

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This is based on a true story. Liam is my father and Noel is my little sister (I changed the gender to make the initial statement work). My dad lent my sister his car for the weekend earlier this year to drive down and visit me. While she was driving, she was nailed by a speed camera for speeding. Speed cameras of course send tickets to the owner of the car, regardless of the driver.

About two weeks later, my father receives the ticket in the mail. Being a habitual speeder himself, he had enough points that the ticket effectively suspended his license until he could contest the ticket.

As he sat there, he wished my sister had been pulled over, instead of running the camera. Now, he was going to have to take a train to his coworker's wedding the following day and get there late. Good job to everyone who helped solve, and I hope my first puzzle was a good one!
Psydkik (Psydkik)
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Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2013 - 6:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ahaaaa, well well, I didn't realise that they assumed you were guilty of speeding until they'd heard otherwise - meanies! :-)

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