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The great fool believed the tree had magic powers when he heard and saw the unexpected - so he destroyed it.
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the great fool = H/A/M? or rather a not-so-human creature from a fantasy world?

true story? FYOI? FSEI?
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the great fool = H/A/M? yes or rather a not-so-human creature from a fantasy world? no

true story? FYOI? FSEI? this one
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Time or location relevant? If so, the usual [LTPF lists] please.
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Time or location relevant? If so, the usual [LTPF lists] please. 14th century Italy - or at least that's when this story was published. The story *may* be older than that, but if so it's not really relevant. However, the story became the subject of a song written and sung in the modern day, by a relevant artist.
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14th century Italy, you say... Is Dante relevant? Petrarca? Boccaccio?

"he heard and saw the unexpected" - was it something one might describe as a miracle?
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14th century Italy, you say... Is Dante relevant? Petrarca? Boccaccio? Giovanni Boccaccio.

"he heard and saw the unexpected" - was it something one might describe as a miracle? well, there was quite a mundane explanation for it, but the foolish lord regarded it as a miracle indeed.
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Aaaah I think I know this story. Will send you a possible $poyler via facebook!
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You got the story, but you don't know the relevant song or artist, so you can always ask questions about that =)
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Song genre:
-rock?
-country?
-hip hop?
-rap?
-techno?

Just throwing out a few to get us started
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Song genre:
-rock?
-country?
-hip hop?
-rap?
-techno?

Just throwing out a few to get us started

none of the above xD

you can ask questions about the story, only our truly Doriana kitteh is forbidden as she guessed it xD
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Was what he saw/ heard in the tree? Around the tree? Did he destroy it out of fear? Anger? Did he hope to gain something by destroying the tree?
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Was what he saw/ heard in the tree? yes, they were Around the tree? Did he destroy it out of fear? Anger? no to both, though he was briefly angered Did he hope to gain something by destroying the tree? no
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Is it something that would typically be in a tree? If so, a bird? bees or other flying insects? squirrels or other rodents? A child? Some non-living thing?
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Is it something that would typically be in a tree? there was one thing in the tree that would normally be in that kind of tree If so, a bird? bees or other flying insects? squirrels or other rodents? A child? Some non-living thing? this, or non-sentient rather, though it ceased to live once removed from the tree, doubtless. But there are two other people in the story, as well.
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Is the non-sentient thing some kind of plant, perhaps a fungus?

Are the other people what he heard?
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Is the non-sentient thing some kind of plant, well, the product of the tree perhaps a fungus?

Are the other people what he heard? and saw, yes
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The non-sentient thing: fruit? sap? leaves?
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The non-sentient thing: fruit? yes =) sap? leaves?
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Specific fruit relevant or would this work with any kind?
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Specific fruit relevant or would this work with any kind?
Technically speaking it would work with any kind, but it happened to be a pear
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The other two: both HAM? Aware of the tree-destroyer? Any interaction with the tree-destroyer?
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The other two: both HAM? 1 HAM, 1 HAF Aware of the tree-destroyer? Any interaction with the tree-destroyer? yes to both
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and technically, the second HAM is the tree-destroyer, the foolish lord gives him the order to cut it down however.
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So, there's the foolish lord, the tree-destroyer, and an unidentified HAF, correct?

I assume the tree-destroyer works for the foolish lord? Is the HAF related to the foolish lord? to the tree destroyer?
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So, there's the foolish lord, the tree-destroyer, and an unidentified HAF, correct? correct

I assume the tree-destroyer works for the foolish lord? as his manservant, yes Is the HAF related to the foolish lord? wife, much younger than her lord husband to the tree destroyer? no, but they would be lovers if they could fool the lord somehow...
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Did they conspire to trick the foolish lord? Did they expect to gain something from the destruction of the tree?
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Did they conspire to trick the foolish lord? yes! =D Did they expect to gain something from the destruction of the tree? Hmm...let's just say that the tree was part of their deception, and if it remained intact for viewers besides the foolish lord, the "miracle" wouldn't be likely to be repeated, so it was better for it to go.
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Did he think there was something "magical" about the tree's fruit? Some other part? The tree as a whole?
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Did he think there was something "magical" about the tree's fruit? Some other part? The tree as a whole?
The tree itself. All right, I get the feeling I've gotten you a bit stuck. Mea culpa.

RECAT WITH ADDITIONAL STUFFS:

The foolish lord, his newly wedded lady, and his young, handsome manservant are going on a walk through the lord's pear orchard. They stop under a particular tree, as the lady has taken a fancy to a ripe pear she sees at the very top. Being old and fat, the lord is in no shape to fetch the fruit, so he orders his manservant to do it. And then what do you think happened once the servant was up the tree?
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The pear fell?
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The pear fell? no, the pear was brought safely down, after something else happened.
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Does the servant say something to the lord when up on the tree?
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Does the servant say something to the lord when up on the tree?
Yes, he does, and this is VERY important!
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Does he point something out about the tree? Is he being honest?
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Does he point something out about the tree? yes Is he being honest?
no, not at all
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Does he say he can't reach it?
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Does he say he can't reach it?
the pear? no, what he says has to do with the lord and lady
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Does he express his wish to be with the wife? And the Lord is incensed?
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Does he express his wish to be with the wife? No, that would be foolish of him. *grin* And the Lord is incensed? He is taken aback by something the servant claims to see the two of them doing...
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Ah, did he say he saw them kissing?
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Ah, did he say he saw them kissing?
Yes, in fact! =) (In the song this puzzle is based on, at least. In the tale the song is based on, he accused them of doing rather more than that - but the song is family friendly. =P) The foolish lord was rather confused - after all, he and his wife were at least a foot apart, not kissing at all.
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Ahh... So he says he saw the lord and lady kissing. Then the lord, disbelieving, decides to climb the tree to see this for himself? At which point he looks down and sees the servant and the lady kissing? They are really kissing? but when he comes down to say he saw the same thing they tell him they weren't kissing? and the tree must have made him see it?
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Is the song by a popular artist? Was it written with the intent of being a popular song, or for a soundtrack/advertisement/other purpose?

Did the song receive considerable airplay on secular radio stations? Did it chart in the United States? Is someone elsewhere in the anglosphere likely to have heard of this song or artist?

Does the song contain a considerable portion of the narrative in its lyrics, or is the story merely alluded to? Does it retain the same characters/era/setting or place it in a modern/generally different context?

Is the genre Contemporary Christian, Country, or Celtic?
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Ahh... So he says he saw the lord and lady kissing. Then the lord, disbelieving, decides to climb the tree to see this for himself? At which point he looks down and sees the servant and the lady kissing? They are really kissing? but when he comes down to say he saw the same thing they tell him they weren't kissing? and the tree must have made him see it? exactly so, Kalira! well done, I knew you'd think of something to ask =D

Is the song by a popular artist? DYOD of "popular" - in the circles she's known in, she's well known, but where she isn't so well known, you'd be lucky to hear of her Was it written with the intent of being a popular song, or for a soundtrack/advertisement/other purpose? it was written to express her appreciation for interesting literature

Did the song receive considerable airplay on secular radio stations? none at all, I imagine Did it chart in the United States? I do not think so Is someone elsewhere in the anglosphere likely to have heard of this song or artist? she's probably even more well known in Canada than in the US

Does the song contain a considerable portion of the narrative in its lyrics, or is the story merely alluded to? the story is retold in the lyrics Does it retain the same characters/era/setting yes or place it in a modern/generally different context? no

Is the genre Contemporary Christian, Country, or Celtic? none of these - although the closest of these to the artist's usual genre would be Celtic. She's well known (where she is well known) for Arthurian and Renaissance-themed songs.
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ah, I would guess you went to my profile for those genres - I wish I could figure out how to update it - I am, for instance, a year older than it would seem to indicate.
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It should be in the left-hand frame. 'Edit Profile' under the 'Utilities' sub-heading. Second from the bottom.
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no, I did all that, but it gave me some nonsense about my password not being the same. Anyway, my profile is irrelevant to this puzzle, which I hope you are enjoying =)
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Well, that's just bizarre. Perhaps you could ask an administrator nicely for a password reset.

OK, so this chanteuse, who I asm assuming from your responses is a female soloist, is she Canadian? Was this song part of a concept album? Relevant? Has the song been incorporated into another work of fiction or non-fiction that would have raised its profile?
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OK, so this chanteuse, who I am assuming from your responses is a female soloist, is she Canadian? yes Was this song part of a concept album? "Concept album"? *looks up* ah - while many of her albums could be called concept albums, I'm not so sure this one is from one, no. Relevant? not really Has the song been incorporated into another work of fiction or non-fiction that would have raised its profile? other than this puzzle, I'm not aware of any other, lol.
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I'm not really sure how I can usefully proceed short of listing letters of the alphabet. Is there some kind of lateral twist here? Is she really a cat?
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I'm not really sure how I can usefully proceed short of listing letters of the alphabet. Is there some kind of lateral twist here? Is she really a cat?

Lol. No. She is not really a cat. =P Nice try, though, lol, you have made my day.

If you're stuck here, you could go back to the story part; it was mostly worked out, but not totally.
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From that description, might I guess Loreena McKennitt?
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From that description, might I guess Loreena McKennitt?

you might - and according to the artist's Wikipedia and TVTropes pages (the latter of which I started), Loreena McKennitt has been compared to her before. But no - and btw, the title is relevant.
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Well then, a hop, skip, and a jump later, I arrive at Heather Dale. Yes? Assuming this is correct, what else is left to discover?
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Well then, a hop, skip, and a jump later, I arrive at Heather Dale. Yes? Yes - well done! Assuming this is correct, what else is left to discover?

I shall treat this as a request for a RECAP:

The original statement was, "The great fool believed the tree had magic powers when he heard and saw the unexpected - so he destroyed it."

"The great fool" has been discovered to be a lord from the writings of Giovanni Boccaccio in the 14th century. The tree, a pear tree to be specific, seemed miraculous to him because of what he heard and saw in it - as has been discovered by you yourself truly Kalira kitteh, his serving man first tricked the lord by (in the process of fetching a pear for his lady, who the servant loved,) claiming to see his lord and lady kissing, when in fact they were not. The lord, upset by this slight on his (very flirtatious) young lady's honour, made the ascent instead and - true to the servant's word - saw the servant now embracing his lady and kissing her. This (as is noted in the opening statement) resulted in the subsequent destruction of the "miraculous" tree - but why? And whose idea was it to destroy the tree?

This tale was chronicled in song, in the modern day by the Canadian independent recording artist Heather Dale, or Mistress Marian of Heatherdale in SCA parlance, best known for her Arthurian and Renaissance/SCA related music. Now, what album was this song on?

Answer me those and I will proclaim the $poyler.
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The lord chopped down the tree?
The servant chopped down the tree?
The lady chopped down the tree?
Someone else chopped down the tree?
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The lord chopped down the tree?
The servant chopped down the tree? this one - thank you, I didn't think anyone would post on this puzzle anymore!
The lady chopped down the tree?
Someone else chopped down the tree?
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Whoops, for some reason I thought this was solved. Did the servant chop down the tree at the behest of the lord? to protect the lady's honor? or did the servant chop it down of his own accord?

Do we need to laterally leap to find the album name? Is it at all related to the story?
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Up Into the Pear Tree on The Road to Santiago album would be the song in question, I believe.
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Whoops, for some reason I thought this was solved. Did the servant chop down the tree at the behest of the lord? the lady actually suggested it, but the lord gave the command, yes to protect the lady's honor? yes or did the servant chop it down of his own accord? no

Do we need to laterally leap to find the album name? Is it at all related to the story? no and no - good work Kalira, but King Louie's about to bring this puzzle to an end...

Up Into the Pear Tree on The Road to Santiago album would be the song in question, I believe.
and so it is! thank you your Majesty xD

***SPOILER***

Based upon a tale by Boccaccio, the Heather Dale song goes like so:

The young Madonna Lydia went out to take a stroll
Upon the arm of Don Ambruglio, her newly wedded lord.
Their serving man was Pyrrhus that day as chance befell
And though he was the husband's man he longed to be her man as well.

Sweetly said Madonna with a twinkle in her eye,
"I see a tree hung low with fruit and oh the highest one is ripe!"
The Don looked sagely upward and nodded his assent
And so the servant stripped to shirt and hose and up the tree he went.

Up into the pear tree was handsome Pyrrhus sent
There he thought of a clever plan and this is how it went
And this is how it went

When the noble pair below were seated on the ground
From up above young Pyrrhus made a show of looking shyly down
"My lord I cannot blame you, but it seems to me unwise
To kiss your wife so boldly here and right before a servant's eyes!"

Ambruglio was taken aback, "My boy what's that you say?
My wife and I are sitting here and not entwined in Cupid's play."
Said Pyrrhus soul of innocence, "My eyes cannot agree,
But here come up and take my place my lord, perhaps it is the tree."

So up into the pear tree the foolish husband went
While Pyrrhus thought of the prize below and hastened his decent
And hastened his decent

There's nothing quite as pleasant as a summer's warm embrace
And when the Don looked down he saw the ardent lovers face to face
But to his cries the two below said simply "What's the fuss?
Just as before a yard or more still separates the two of us."

The Don cried "It's a miracle, let's cry it in the town!"
But with a smile Madonna said "I think that you should cut it down.
What good's a tree which lays a doubt on wives of good repute?
But Pyrrhus here has earned my gratitude for fetching me my fruit!"

So Pyrrhus felled the pear tree, as was his first intent
And once he'd finished his sweaty work his vigor was all but spent
His vigor was all but spent

The wondrous tree was lost, Ambruglio ne'er guessed the game
But still the tale went far and wide and garnered him a certain fame.
Lydia was happy with this pleasant stroke of luck,
And always called upon her Pyrrhus when she had some fruit to pluck.

And up into her pear tree was handsome Pyrrhus sent
For there he'd thought of a clever plan and that was how it went
Oh there he'd thought of a clever plan, and that was how it went

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