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Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 6:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A nurse, in her professional capacity, once said something so preposterous to me that I could hardly believe it. Imagine my surprise when I learned that other people have had health professionals say this sort of thing to them, too. What is it??
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Were you pregnant at that time?

Did it concern your health? Were you ill? Seriously ill?

Did she give you some advice? Inform you about your health status?

Did you feel hurt?
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Were you pregnant at that time? no. As the least maternal person in the history of the universe, I have never been pregnant.

Did it concern your health? yes Were you ill? noSeriously ill? no

Did she give you some advice? noInform you about your health status? yope

Did you feel hurt? no
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Did she somehow describe your health status/condition? Tell you that you have a condition?
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Is it important it was a nurse and not a doctor?

Was what she said:
- not true?
- funny?
- a superstition?
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Did she somehow describe your health status/condition? yope Tell you that you have a condition? noish
Is it important it was a nurse and not a doctor?no

Was what she said:
- not true? yope
- funny? no
- a superstition? no
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Was this while you were fat? Was it related to weight?
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Was this while you were fat? no but irrelWas it related to weight? no
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Did she make a comment?

Was it relevant in terms of your health (as opposed to just a casual remark)?

Was it related to a specific part of your body?
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did she say something about how good or bad your health was in relationship to your age?
was it preposterous because it was based upon a preposterous assumption? if so - was the assumption about what you believed? what you were entitled to? what you deserved? what other people would think? about how you value your health? how you prioritise your health?
did the statement concern sacrifices that you might make for your health? did it somehow say that other people's health was more important than yours? that some people's health was more important than others'? that a young person's health was more important than an old person's?
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Did she ask you a question?

Like "do you want anything"?
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Did she make a comment? yes

Was it relevant in terms of your health (as opposed to just a casual remark)? yes

Was it related to a specific part of your body? yes, but it's irrel which one
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did she say something about how good or bad your health was in relationship to your age? no
was it preposterous because it was based upon a preposterous assumption? yesif so - was the assumption about what you believed? yesish what you were entitled to? no what you deserved? nowhat other people would think? no about how you value your health? yesishhow you prioritise your health? yope
did the statement concern sacrifices that you might make for your health? nodid it somehow say that other people's health was more important than yours? nothat some people's health was more important than others'? nothat a young person's health was more important than an old person's? no
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Did she ask you a question? no

Like "do you want anything"? no
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HINT: The stupid remark was intended to be comforting.
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Religion relevant?

Quality vs. quantity of life relevant?

Reaching an old age relevant?
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Religion relevant? no

Quality vs. quantity of life relevant? no

Reaching an old age relevant? no
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Hi, Nimue. I'd do a smiley face, but it was declared illegal. Don't want to rock the boat so soon.

Was her comment related to the specific complaint/reason you had to visit a healthcare professional in the first place? Was it about your general state of health? Was the comment targeted to a unique, observable attribute of you yourself, or something perceived to be generally true among people of your sex/age/profession/dress sense?

Habits relevant? Smoking? Personal appearance/grooming/maintenance relevant?
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Hi, Nimue. I'd do a smiley face, but it was declared illegal. Don't want to rock the boat so soon.

Was her comment related to the specific complaint/reason you had to visit a healthcare professional in the first place? yesWas it about your general state of health? yopeWas the comment targeted to a unique, observable attribute of you yourself no, or something perceived to be generally true among people of your sex/age/profession/dress sense?yope or yesish

Habits relevant? no Smoking? no Personal appearance/grooming/maintenance relevant? no
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HINT: I wasn't sick & I wasn't there for a check-up. So why was I at the doctor's office at all? The answer will help you solve the puzzle.
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Were you about to do something important? Something travel related? Innoculations relevant?
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Were you about to do something important? yope or yesish Something travel related? no Innoculations relevant? no
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stereotyping relevant ? religious beliefs ? race ? profession ?
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stereotyping relevant ? no or maybe noish religious beliefs no? race ? no profession ? no
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Were you there to get/renew a prescription? to get a referral to a specialist?
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Were you there to get/renew a prescription? no to get a referral to a specialist? no. Everyone is overlooking a really obvious possibility!!
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Did you know the doctor personally?

Were you accompanying someone else who had an appointment?
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Did you know the doctor personally? It was a nurse (although that's irrel), & I didn't know her outside of this encounter.

Were you accompanying someone else who had an appointment? no
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Were you getting a pre-employment screening before beginning a new job?
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Were you getting a pre-employment screening before beginning a new job?Eek, no!! I'd never take a job with such an intrusive requirement (unless I were desperate, of course).
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Blood donation?
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Blood donation?no
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Were you there to collect something for someone else?
Or in a professional capacity (i.e. connected to your profession?)
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Were you there to collect something for someone else? no
Or in a professional capacity (i.e. connected to your profession? no
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HINT: There's one common reason for going to a doctor that has been overlooked so far. I bet many forum members have gone to doctors for this reason.
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Is the fact that you are a HAF relevant?
pain medication relevant? antihistamines?
Allergies relevant?
Getting your ears pierced?!??

Well, on the LTPF, you want to cover all bases.
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Did you go there for a vaccination? Was your visit connected with getting driving licence?
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Is the fact that you are a HAF relevant? Just the human part, since a non-human animal won't be resenting preposterous remarks.
pain medication relevant? no antihistamines? no
Allergies relevant? no
Getting your ears pierced?!?? No, although I do have pierced ears & LOVE earrings.

Well, on the LTPF, you want to cover all bases.
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Did you go there for a vaccination? noWas your visit connected with getting driving licence? no
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Did you go there to have blood drawn?
Did you want to have a chat with the doctor? (I know that this is unlikely, but my father, who is doctor, actually has patients who come in only to have a chat with him.)
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Did you go there to have blood drawn? no
Did you want to have a chat with the doctor? no (I know that this is unlikely, but my father, who is doctor, actually has patients who come in only to have a chat with him.)
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Did you go there to register someone else for a visit?
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Did you go there to register someone else for a visit? no
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Were you there to get some sort of test? Were any medical procedure performed while you were there?
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Were you there to get some sort of test?no, but you're ORT Were any medical procedure performed while you were there? no
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Were you there to see if you were healthy enough for a certain activity? Were you getting a physical? Were you there to get bandages or a cast removed?

Is there a specific ailment relevant to why you visited the doctor?
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Were you there to see if you were healthy enough for a certain activity? no Were you getting a physical? no Were you there to get bandages or a cast removed? no

Is there a specific ailment relevant to why you visited the doctor? yes --remember, I said you were ORT in asking, "Were you there to get some sort of test?"
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Was this an eye doctor? Were you getting your vision tested?
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Was this an eye doctor? no Were you getting your vision tested?no
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Would the ailment affect a specific body part? Or is it more of a general health situation?

Were you there to get the results of a test?
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Would the ailment affect a specific body part? irrel Or is it more of a general health situation?It certainly had general implications!!

Were you there to get the results of a test? Yes!! At last!! So now you just have to think of something REALLY STUPID that a health professional might say to someone who was awaiting the results of a test.
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It's not as easy as "think positive"?
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It's not as easy as "think positive"?No, but you're ORT
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Was the type of test relevant? E.g. and to use a slightly barmy example, was it a urine test and they told you that they hoped the results were clear?
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Was the type of test relevant? yes E.g. and to use a slightly barmy example, was it a urine test and they told you that they hoped the results were clear? that's not it
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No, I suspected it wouldn't be.

Blood test?
Urine test?
Genetics test?
Reflexes test?
Blood sugar test?
Electrocardiogram test?
Screening test?
Radiologic test?
Spelling test?
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Was the preposterousness of the nurse's comment the fact that she assumed you had whatever was being tested for? Was it that she made an inference that a lifestyle choice had led to the need for the test? Did she presume that you thought you had what was being tested for?
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No, I suspected it wouldn't be.

Blood test?This would work for the puzzle
Urine test?ditto
Genetics test?ditto
Reflexes test? no
Blood sugar test? This would work for the puzzle
Electrocardiogram test? ditto
Screening test? unlikely
Radiologic test? This would work for the puzzle
Spelling test? nooooooo
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Was the preposterousness of the nurse's comment the fact that she assumed you had whatever was being tested for? no Was it that she made an inference that a lifestyle choice had led to the need for the test? no Did she presume that you thought you had what was being tested for? no
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RECAP & HINT: Add the following to the puzzle description: I was there to get the results of a medical test for a serious illness (which I turned out not to have, although that's irrel to the puzzle).
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Relevant which specific illness?

Seeing it's related to a particular body part, but irrelevant which, I'm guessing it's Cancer.
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Relevant which specific illness? no, as long as it's very serious & possibly fatal

Seeing it's related to a particular body part, but irrelevant which, I'm guessing it's Cancer.{Irrel. It works for any very serious, possibly life-threatening, illness that can be detected by a medical test.
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Was the preposterousness related to your supposed feelings in relation to whether or not you had the illness? Your supposed reaction to death or a sudden reduction in life expectancy? Your supposed reaction to any lifestyle changes you would have made?
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Was the preposterousness related to your supposed feelings in relation to whether or not you had the illness? yesish Your supposed reaction to death or a sudden reduction in life expectancy? yesish Your supposed reaction to any lifestyle changes you would have made? no
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Was the remark some standard phrase often used to try and comfort people?

Does it include the word life? dead/death? health?
(don't)worry? could be worse?
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Was the remark some standard phrase often used to try and comfort people? I've heard of other cases where it was used, but it may not be common enough to count as standard.

Does it include the word life? dead/death? health?
(don't)worry? could be worse? no to all
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so you were waiting for the results of a test that might have serious, life threatening implications? and the nurse made a comment? which was based upon an assumption she had? about you? about what you were thinking? about how you would react? and the assumption was preposterous? to you? or would be to anyone?

was she trying to comfort you? prepare you for bad news? make you feel better?

was the assumption about how you would react to a positive (i.e. bad) test result? a negative (good) one? was the assumption about what was going through your mind at the time? was the assumption about what you would do next? or what you had been doing while waiting for the test result? was it about what you had told others about the test? what you would tell them?

was the comment related to treatment you might need? about treatment decisions you might make? about further tests?

was the comment about a good test result? a bad one?
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Was the comment something along the lines of "even if your test is positive, at least you know and can take action/prepare yourself"? or was it in fact rather the opposite, i.e. the nurse assumed that you did NOT want to hear the results of the test, because knowing might disturb you?

(Even if the latter is not the answer to this puzzle, I have heard this argument used to argue against genetic tests for disease susceptibility. Essentially, that for some people ignorance really is bliss, and knowing one has a risk would be too traumatic for those patients to know, even if it would be useful information.)
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Was the comment something along the lines of "even if your test is positive, at least you know and can take action/prepare yourself"? yesish or was it in fact rather the opposite, i.e. the nurse assumed that you did NOT want to hear the results of the test, because knowing might disturb you? no

(Even if the latter is not the answer to this puzzle, I have heard this argument used to argue against genetic tests for disease susceptibility. Essentially, that for some people ignorance really is bliss, and knowing one has a risk would be too traumatic for those patients to know, even if it would be useful information.) No doubt this is true for some people. To each his own.

Biograd is close enough fir me to declare a

*********** SPOILER ***********

As I was in a doctor's office awaiting the result of a test for what could have been a fatal disease, a nurse attempted to reassure me by saying, "At least soon you'll know one way or another, and then you'll feel better." I made the obvious reply: uncertainty is infinitely better than the knowledge that you have a fatal disease. I guess the nurse bought into the idea that, everything can be adjusted to & since death is natural, it is good. What a jerk, even if a well-meaning one. Of course, I did feel better after I got the result -- because it was negative. I'll also feel good if you check out my new puzzle!!
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By the way, people with a parent who has the incurable & fatal genetic disease Huntington's Cholera have a 50% chance of inheriting the disease themselves. A genetic test can reveal the fatal gene long before symptoms develop. Only about 10-20% of people with an afflicted parent choose to have genetic testing. Most prefer uncertainty to knowledge of a terrible fate. I certainly would.
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I imagine it's a personal choice as to whether that would make you feel better or not - some people probably prefer the hope that is provided by uncertainty, others probably prefer not having the worry that is provided by uncertainty. Nurse's mistake presumably was assuming that you were in the latter category.
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I agree. She shouldn't have assumed anything.

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