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Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 1:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When I was younger, I had a scrund about a certain term related to employment. As a result, I got in trouble for lying even though what I said was true, but did not get in trouble for telling an actual lie.
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Hrm... will have to come back to that second sentence later.

The term: is it related to most/all forms of employment? only full-time employment? only part-time employment? only certain fields? Would it come up during the process of getting a job (e.g. reading job openings, applications, resumes, interviews)? or generally only once the job was secured?

Is the scrund related to the pronunciation? meaning? origin? of the word?

Was the point at which you got in trouble the moment of your unscrunding? or did your suffering under the scrund last until some point after that?
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Hrm... will have to come back to that second sentence later.

The term: is it related to most/all forms of employment? Yes only full-time employment? only part-time employment? only certain fields? Would it come up during the process of getting a job (e.g. reading job openings, applications, resumes, interviews)? or generally only once the job was secured? yes, no to rest

Is the scrund related to the pronunciation? meaning? this, no to the rest of this paragraph origin? of the word?

Was the point at which you got in trouble the moment of your unscrunding? or did your suffering under the scrund last until some point after that? this, no to the rest of the paragraph
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Does the misunderstood term apply to: Proving citizenship/work eligibility? Payroll? Benefits?
Work Hours and scheduling? Company policies? Chain of command?
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Does the misunderstood term apply to: Proving citizenship/work eligibility? No Payroll? No Benefits? No
Work Hours and scheduling? No Company policies? Not directly Chain of command? No
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Did your misunderstanding about the term lead you to say imply you had a certain knowledge or some experience that you in fact hadn't? Or vice versa?
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Did your misunderstanding about the term lead you to say or imply you had a certain knowledge or some experience that you in fact hadn't? No Or vice versa? DOYD of "experience" but in the context I think you're using it, no.
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Actually, the answer to Plebian's first question might be noish, DOYD of "experience" though again, in the context I think it's being used, the answer would be no.
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Is the term likely to appear in the job contract? Is it related to employer's duties? Employee's duties?
Is the term related to a specific sector/branch of employment?
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Is the term likely to appear in the job contract? Either that or a synonym, but I only had a scrund about this specific word. Is it related to employer's duties? Not directly Employee's duties? No
Is the term related to a specific sector/branch of employment? No
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Did the term concern employee's benefits? Employee's rights? Social system?
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Did the term concern employee's benefits? Employee's rights? Social system? None of these, at least not directly.
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Since there haven't been any questions in almost two weeks, I am giving a hint (at least on the first part)

The scrund concerned a term related to discipline. I thought the discipline involved would be far harsher than it actually was.
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Was the term reprimand? Reprehension? Admonition? Damage compensation? Suspension?
Was it a form of punishment?
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Was the term reprimand? Reprehension? Admonition? Damage compensation? Suspension? None of these
Was it a form of punishment?Yes
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When you lied, did you use the term? When you told the truth, did you use the term?
Did you say that there was [certain punishment] inflicted on someone? If yes, was it true? Was it a lie? In either case, did you get in trouble with that someone?
Did you use the term in the context of employment?
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When you lied, did you use the term? When you told the truth, did you use the term? No to all
Did you say that there was [certain punishment] inflicted on someone? No If yes, was it true? No Was it a lie? No In either case, did you get in trouble with that someone? No
Did you use the term in the context of employment? FA
Redwine (Redwine)
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Posted on Friday, November 22, 2013 - 10:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So you did not use the term at all, correct? Did you, in your statement, refer to the consequences of certain punishment? Did you, mistakenly thinking that someone was fired, say that someone was looking for a new job, while in fact punishment was not so severe?
Did the punishment include losing some privileges? Lower salary? Firing?
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So you did not use the term at all, correct? I personally did not, no. Did you, in your statement, refer to the consequences of certain punishment? No Did you, mistakenly thinking that someone was fired, say that someone was looking for a new job, while in fact punishment was not so severe? No, OTWT
Did the punishment include losing some privileges? Lower salary? Firing? This is the term, no to rest.
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Did you think people were actually set on fire? Or fired at?
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Did you think people were actually set on fire? Bingo! Or fired at?

****PARTIAL $POYLR****

The scrund was thinking "fired" meant getting set on fire, like burning at the stake. So now for the rest of the puzzle - why did I get in trouble for lying, even though what I said was true, but not get in trouble for telling an actual lie, as the result of this scrund?
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Did you talk about somebody who had been fired? As in lost their job? Or as in being set on fire?
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Did you talk about somebody who had been fired? No, but .... As in lost their job? No, but ..... Or as in being set on fire? No
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Did you talk about someone firing someone else? Did you believe that person really burned someone to death?

Did you say that Joan of Arc was 'fired' from her job? Or make a similar reference to someone who was actually set alight?
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Did you say somebody was \i {going to} get fired?
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Did you talk about someone firing someone else? Yesish Did you believe that person really burned someone to death? Yesish or yope

Did you say that Joan of Arc was 'fired' from her job? Or make a similar reference to someone who was actually set alight? No

Did you say somebody was \i {going to} get fired? Yope or yesish
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Did you say "you're fired" to someone? Or ask someone to fire somebody? Or not to fire them?
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Did you say "you're fired" to someone? No Or ask someone to fire somebody? No Or not to fire them? Yesish
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Was what you said a factual truth? only if one takes the term 'fired' in its generally accepted sense? only if you take it in its literal sense?

Was any of this in reference to (*shudder*) "The Apprentice"?
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Was what you said a factual truth? Yope, FA. only if one takes the term 'fired' in its generally accepted sense? only if you take it in its literal sense? The answer would be the same no matter which meaning of "fired" we used.

Was any of this in reference to (*shudder*) "The Apprentice"? No
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HINT: If I didn't have the scrund, I would not have told the actual lie at all.
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Did you tell the lie to keep from getting fired? Was it a lie that someone might tell if they were actually in danger of being set on fire?

The truth that was interpreted as a lie: Was it a statement made out loud? A complete sentence? Or longer? A response to a question? "Yes"? "No"?

Is the kind of employment relevant? Your age at the time?
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Did you tell the lie to keep from getting fired? Was it a lie that someone might tell if they were actually in danger of being set on fire? No to all, but you're OTRT

The truth that was interpreted as a lie: Was it a statement made out loud? Yes A complete sentence? Or longer? probably this A response to a question? "Yes"? "No"?

Is the kind of employment relevant? Yes, but there are several kinds that would work. In this case, the job in question was a counselor at a summer camp. Your age at the time? Yes, all that matters is I was a child. The exact age is irrelevant.
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BIGGER HINT: The actual lie I told and the true statement I told that got me punished for "lying" are related to each other.
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It's been almost two weeks, and you got half of this, so I'm just going to $poyl.

****SPOILER8***
As you established, I believed "firing" someone meant setting them on fire. When I was at a summer camp, my counselor was mean to me and I told my mom. She said if it were true, we would tell the camp director the next day and she would be fired. Now, she deserved to be fired for this, but not set on fire. So, feeling guilty about getting her burned at the stake, I lied and said I was making up the story earlier. So I was punished for lying.

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