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Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 8:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Two men arrive at a castle. They soon find out that two unexpected events have happened there, and one of them men rushes off to stop a wedding. What's going on?
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Did any of the two men arriving at a castle was going to get married? Is any of them related to the woman that was getting married?
Are the two men H? A? M?
Is it relevant why were the two men outside of the castle? Have they ever been to that castle?
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Not that I think it's particularly likely, but are Shakespeare's plays at all relevant?

True story? FYOI? FSEI?
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Did any of the two men arriving at a castle was going to get married? No
Is any of them related to the woman that was getting married? No
Are the two men H? A? M? Yes
Is it relevant why were the two men outside of the castle? Yes
Have they ever been to that castle? No
Not that I think it's particularly likely, but are Shakespeare's plays at all relevant? No, it would be coincidence

True story? FYOI? FSEI? Fiction, FMOI
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Were the two men outside the castle because of the crusade? Did the puzzle take place in Middle Ages? Were the two men knights?
Were the two events unexpected for the two men? For inhabitants of the castle?
Was the castle in England?
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Were the two men outside the castle because of the crusade? Did the puzzle take place in Middle Ages? Were the two men knights? No to all
Were the two events unexpected for the two men? No
For inhabitants of the castle? No
Was the castle in England? No
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Is the castle a castle as we would normally conceive of one (i.e. a relatively large mediaeval stronghold protecting or accommodating a monarch or other important figure)?

Are the men messengers of some sort? Are they lost? Do they know the chief resident of the castle?

Is the wedding a royal wedding, or otherwise between important political figures or influential people?
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Is the castle a castle as we would normally conceive of one (i.e. a relatively large mediaeval stronghold protecting or accommodating a monarch or other important figure)? Yes to all...except for the "relatively large" part

Are the men messengers of some sort? No...not really
Are they lost? No
Do they know the chief resident of the castle? FA here, but they do not know the person at the castle

Is the wedding a royal wedding, or otherwise between important political figures or influential people? No to all
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Do the men meet someone relevant to the solution at the castle, who informs them of the unexpected events?

Is the relationship between the two men who arrive at the castle relevant? If so - familial? Professional? Political? Is the relationship between either of the men and the person at the castle relevant?

Is 'one of them men' who rushes off to stop the wedding one of the two men who arrive at the castle?

Are either of the people getting married known to the two men who arrive at the castle? To the person they meet at the castle (if there is such a person at all)?
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Do the men meet someone relevant to the solution at the castle Yes, who informs them of the unexpected events? The person informs them of one of the events, yes

Is the relationship between the two men who arrive at the castle relevant? Yes
If so - familial? No
Professional? This is closest
Political? No
Is the relationship between either of the men and the person at the castle relevant? Yes

Is 'one of them men' who rushes off to stop the wedding one of the two men who arrive at the castle? Yes

Are either of the people getting married known to the two men who arrive at the castle? The men know who they are, if that is what you are asking
To the person they meet at the castle (if there is such a person at all)? No, they don't know this person and this person doesn't know who they are
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Does the rushing man have any personal motive for stopping the wedding? Does he want to halt it entirely or just postpone it?

Person at the castle: Male? Female? Adult? Child?

Time/location relevant?

Let's give these characters names. The guy who rushes to stop the wedding... I'm not feeling creative, so how about Rush? And his companion... Carter, and the person at the castle... Adrian (which can be used for both genders). Oh, and the people getting married... maybe Lynn and Rex (since you used "king" in the title)?
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Is the puzzle set in modern times? Does the castle serve as a house of a royalty/aristocracy? As a museum? As a hotel?
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Does the rushing man have any personal motive for stopping the wedding? No
Does he want to halt it entirely Certainly not...or just postpone it?...moreso this, but...

Person at the castle: Male? Female? Adult? Child? It's a little girl (age not really relevant)

Time/location relevant? Yes to both

Let's give these characters names. Good idea, I couldn't come up with any when I typed the statement
The guy who rushes to stop the wedding... I'm not feeling creative, so how about Rush? And his companion... Carter, and the person at the castle... Adrian (which can be used for both genders). Oh, and the people getting married... maybe Lynn and Rex (since you used "king" in the title)? Those are perfect, thanks!
Is the puzzle set in modern times? Yes, most likely "modern" as in mid 20th century to present
Does the castle serve as a house of a royalty/aristocracy? As a museum? As a hotel?
None of these
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Were Lynn and Rex getting married in the castle? Did Adrian live in the castle? Was the castle a toy castle? Did Rush and/or Carter work in the castle?
Did Lynn want to marry Rex? Did Rex want to marry Lynn? Was any of the protagonists of this puzzle mistaken about the identity of the other protagonist?
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Were Lynn and Rex getting married in the castle? No (not possible)
Did Adrian live in the castle? No (not possible)
Was the castle a toy castle? No but OTRT
Did Rush and/or Carter work in the castle? No (not possible)
Did Lynn want to marry Rex? Did Rex want to marry Lynn? Yes to both
Was any of the protagonists of this puzzle mistaken about the identity of the other protagonist? No
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Was the castle a miniature in a Park of Minatures? Was the castle drawn on painting? On a photo? Otherwise pictured in a work of arts? Was the castle a sculpture?
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Was the castle a miniature in a Park of Minatures? Was the castle drawn on painting? On a photo? Otherwise pictured in a work of arts? Was the castle a sculpture? "Sculpture" is the most accurate
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Belvedere Castle relevant?
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Belvedere Castle relevant? No
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Was it a model of a castle?

Wild shot - is it a castle on a miniature golf course?
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Was the castle a model?
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Was it a model of a castle? A certain type of this, yes

Wild shot - is it a castle on a miniature golf course? No (good thinking though)
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Is the castle some kind of doll's house or similar? Is it a maquette for a film?
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Is the castle some kind of doll's house or similar? Not this, but it's approximately the same size (and the exact type of castle is relevant)
Is it a maquette for a film? No
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Is the castle a house for an animal?
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Is the castle a house for an animal? No (think "sculpture")
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Sandcastle?

Wedding on beach, tide coming in... any of this relevant?
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Sandcastle? Yes

Wedding on beach, tide coming in... any of this relevant? Not the wedding on the beach part, but the tide coming in is relevant
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So, can we say that the first unexpected event is the tide coming in?

Is the second unexpected event related to the tide coming in? Did something or someone wash up on shore? Was something revealed by the movement of the tides? Something related to the wedding?

Is the second unexpected event not related to the tides, but otherwise related to the wedding?

Does the girl inform them that the tide has come in, or inform them of the other unexpected event? Do the men take into account the fact that the tide has come in with the piece of information given by the girl, and realise that the wedding must be postponed-ish?
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So, can we say that the first unexpected event is the tide coming in? Not entirely although it does play a factor

Is the second unexpected event related to the tide coming in? Not the second one, no
Did something or someone wash up on shore? No
Was something revealed Yes by the movement of the tides? But not by tide movement
Something related to the wedding? Yes

Is the second unexpected event not related to the tides, but otherwise related to the wedding? Yes

Does the girl inform them that the tide has come in,No or inform them of the other unexpected event? Yes, the second one
Do the men take into account the fact that the tide has come in with the piece of information given by the girl, and realise that the wedding must be postponed-ish? No, they aren't aware of anything about the tide issue
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Was the wedding-related element used to build or decorate the sandcastle in some way?
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Is Adrian building the sandcastle? Does she use a relevant object to decorate the castle? Something that least Rush to try and stop the wedding?
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Were the two men supposed to be present during the wedding? Were they priests?
If not, was their profession connected with natural environment? Public safety?
Were Lynn and Rex in danger, if the wedding proceeded as planned?
Did Adrian find anything relevant in the sand?
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Was the wedding-related element used to build or decorate the sandcastle in some way? No (but OTRT)

Is Adrian building the sandcastle? Yes
Does she use a relevant object to decorate the castle? No...
Something that least Rush to try and stop the wedding? Not this, but something that Adrian does is what leads Rush to stop the wedding
Were the two men supposed to be present during the wedding? Were they priests? No to both
If not, was their profession connected with natural environment? Public safety? No, their "Professions" aren't relevant, but something else about them is
Were Lynn and Rex in danger, if the wedding proceeded as planned? No
Did Adrian find anything relevant in the sand? Yes
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Is anything relevant about Lynn and/or Rex, other than that they are getting married?
Does Adrian know any of the other four? If so, which?
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Is anything relevant about Lynn and/or Rex, other than that they are getting married? Yes
Does Adrian know any of the other four? If so, which? She doesn't know any of them
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Was Rush a criminal? Was Carter?
When Rush tried to stop the wedding, did he do this for the benefit of Lynn and/or Rex? For his own benefit? For Carter's benefit? For Adrian's benefit?
Did he succeed in stopping the wedding? Relevant?

Was the item found in sand tangible? valuable? Did it belong to any of the people involved?
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Was Rush a criminal? Was Carter? Neither of them are
When Rush tried to stop the wedding, did he do this for the benefit of Lynn and/or Rex? Yes, for both of them
For his own benefit? For Carter's benefit? For Adrian's benefit? It doesn't benefit any of them
Did he succeed in stopping the wedding? Relevant?
He succeeded in his mission, yes, in stopping-ish the wedding
Was the item found in sand tangible? Yes, and...valuable?...this.
Did it belong to any of the people involved? Yes
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Was the item found in the sand a wedding ring? Engagement ring? Other piece of jewellery? Did it belong to Lynn? Rex? Rush? Carter? Adrian?
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Is either Lynn or Rex already married? Did the ring (or whatever item was in the sand) prove this? Was there an incriminating inscription on the ring?
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Was the item found in the sand a wedding ring? Engagement ring? Engagement ring, yes
Other piece of jewellery? No
Did it belong to Lynn? Rex? Yes Rush? Carter? Adrian?

Is either Lynn or Rex already married? Not yet...
Did the ring (or whatever item was in the sand) prove this? No Was there an incriminating inscription on the ring? No
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Did Rex intend to give the ring to Lynn? To someone else?
Was it the ring of Rex's previous fiancee?
Is it relevant how did Rex acquire the ring?
Did the absence of the ring is significant for someone? For Lynn? Did someone demand that ring to be showed?
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Did Rex intend to give the ring to Lynn? Yes
To someone else? No
Was it the ring of Rex's previous fiancee? No
Is it relevant how did Rex acquire the ring? No
Did the absence of the ring is significant for someone? For Lynn? Did someone demand that ring to be showed? The absence of the ring is a problem for Lynn and Rex. No one demanded that it be shown, but you're OTRT
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Did Lynn lose her engagement ring? And if so, did Rex notice it? And have a problem with it?
Was Lynn pregnant?
Did the marriage start/was about to start when Rush and Carter came at the castle?
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Did Lynn lose her engagement ring? No, Lynn didn't...
And if so, did Rex notice it? Rex knew it was lost, yes
And have a problem with it? Yes but not because Lynn lost it
Was Lynn pregnant? No
Did the marriage start/was about to start when Rush and Carter came at the castle? Yes, it was about to start
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Were Lynn and Rex engaged? Was the marriage arranged only because they could not get engaged for the absence of the ring? Weird, I know, but here one never knows...
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Were Lynn and Rex engaged? When?
Was the marriage arranged only because they could not get engaged for the absence of the ring? Weird, I know, but here one never knows...Better explore this idea
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Were Lynn and Rex engaged at the moment when Rush and Carter came at the castle? Were Lynn and Rex engaged at the moment of their planned wedding? Were Lynn and Rex engaged at the moment of their actual wedding?
Did Lynn and Rex need to be more "related" than just dating? Could Rex just have bought another ring?
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Were Lynn and Rex engaged at the moment when Rush and Carter came at the castle? Yes, technically
Were Lynn and Rex engaged at the moment of their planned wedding? Yes, but...
Were Lynn and Rex engaged at the moment of their actual wedding? Yes
Did Lynn and Rex need to be more "related" than just dating? Can you ask this q another way? It is very much OTRT
Could Rex just have bought another ring? At some point I'm sure he could have
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Did either Lynn or Rex have to prove they were engaged and could not do so for the absence of the ring?
At the moment when Rush and Carter came at the castle, were Lynn and Rex engaged as far as their agreement is concerned, but no engagement ring was given to Lynn? Were their engagement announced before the ring was found?
Was Lynn in the situation, in which she needed to be officialy engaged? Was Rex? Inheritance relevant? Did it happen during wartime?
When Rush stopped the wedding, was the ring given to Lynn by Rex?
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Did either Lynn or Rex have to prove they were engaged and could not do so for the absence of the ring? No
At the moment when Rush and Carter came at the castle, were Lynn and Rex engaged as far as their agreement is concerned, but no engagement ring was given to Lynn? Yes - good q
Were their engagement announced before the ring was found? Yes
Was Lynn in the situation, in which she needed to be officialy engaged? Was Rex? Inheritance relevant? Did it happen during wartime? No to all

When Rush stopped the wedding, was the ring given to Lynn by Rex? Yes
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Did Lynn and Rex have a relevant reason to marry at that moment (before Rush stopped it), other than normal wanting-to-get-married thing? And when the ring was found and brought to them, was that reason still valid? Did giving the ring make this reason invalid?
Was it Rex who lost the ring? Was Lynn marrying him at that moment to show she does not care for a ring? Was Rex obliged to give Lynn some jewellery and since the ring was lost, there were only wedding rings available?
I'm assuming that when Rush rushed to stop the wedding, he took the ring with him and gave it to Rex, correct?
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Did Lynn and Rex have a relevant reason to marry at that moment (before Rush stopped it), other than normal wanting-to-get-married thing? Yes (and it's relevant)
And when the ring was found and brought to them, was that reason still valid? Yes
Did giving the ring make this reason invalid? No

Was it Rex who lost the ring? YES (and this is relevant)
Was Lynn marrying him at that moment to show she does not care for a ring? Yes
Was Rex obliged to give Lynn some jewellery and since the ring was lost, there were only wedding rings available? Not relevant
I'm assuming that when Rush rushed to stop the wedding, he took the ring with him and gave it to Rex, correct? That's correct!
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Is financial status of the protagonists relevant? Did Rex recently go bankrupt?
When Rush stopped the wedding, was the wedding postponed for minutes? hours? days? months? years?
Is it relevant when Rex lost the ring?
Was either Lynn or Rex severely ill/in danger of death?
Did the ring have sentimental value (other than being an engagement ring) for Lynn? For Rex?
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Is financial status of the protagonists relevant? Did Rex recently go bankrupt? None of this is relevant
When Rush stopped the wedding, was the wedding postponed for minutes? hours? days? months? years? Probably for only a few seconds, maybe a minute at most
Is it relevant when Rex lost the ring? YES
Was either Lynn or Rex severely ill/in danger of death? No/not relevant
Did the ring have sentimental value (other than being an engagement ring) for Lynn? For Rex? Nothing other than being Lynn's engagement ring
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Did Rex lose the ring on the day of the wedding? On the day of engagement? On the day when he bought the ring?
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Did Rex lose the ring on the day of the wedding? No...but close!
On the day of engagement? Yes
On the day when he bought the ring? No
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Were their reasons to marry at the moment:
1) wanting to get married?
2) Lynn showing that she did not care for the engagement ring, that Rex lost at the day of engagement?
3) financial reasons?
4) family reasons?
5) health issues?

Did Rex plan to propose to Lynn at the seaside? Was she present when he lost the ring?

One unexpected event is finding the ring, correct? Have we already find the second?
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Is the length of time between Lynn & Rex's becoming engaged and the wedding day relevant?
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Were their reasons to marry at the moment:
1) wanting to get married? This was the main factor
2) Lynn showing that she did not care for the engagement ring, that Rex lost at the day of engagement? Not really
3) financial reasons? No, not at all
4) family reasons? Yes, this is also a factor
5) health issues? No

Did Rex plan to propose to Lynn at the seaside? YES
Was she present when he lost the ring? YES

One unexpected event is finding the ring, correct? Correct
Have we already find the second? No, but you have all the information you need to figure it out
Is the length of time between Lynn & Rex's becoming engaged and the wedding day relevant? YES
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Did they engage very soon before marriage? Were their parents/other important family members present only on that time? Did they plan the wedding on that day for the sake of Carter and Rush?
Was the other unexpected event the marriage? Did the other unexpected event give reason to a quick marriage?
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Did they engage very soon before marriage? YES, very soon indeed!
Were their parents/other important family members present only on that time? No but this is OTRT and relevant to why the wedding was planned as it was
Did they plan the wedding on that day for the sake of Carter and Rush? No, these men had nothing to do with the wedding planning
Was the other unexpected event the marriage? No
Did the other unexpected event give reason to a quick marriage? No - there has already been a discovery about something relevant to the other unexpected event, and it is related to the location of where Adrian was
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Ok, so finding the ring was second unexpected event, correct?
Was the first one revealing something by the tide? Was it a high tide? A low tide?
Is it relevant how Rush and Carter learned about the wedding?
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Ok, so finding the ring was second unexpected event, correct? Correct
Was the first one revealing something by the tide? No, not revealing...
Was it a high tide? YES, this is relevant
A low tide? No
Is it relevant how Rush and Carter learned about the wedding? Yes, it will help identify exactly who they are (and something else as well)
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was the first one hiding something by the high tide?
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was the first one hiding something by the high tide? No but VERY CLOSE - the high tide is related to the first one!
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Were Rush and Carter invited for the wedding? Were they part of the wedding staff?
Was the first unexpected event bringing something on the shore by the high tide?
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Were Rush and Carter invited for the wedding? Were they part of the wedding staff? No, Rush and Carter didn't even know about the wedding until just before they discovered the second unexpected event
Was the first unexpected event bringing something on the shore by the high tide? No
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Was someone swimming/surfing on a high tide?
Did the wedding also take place on a seashore?
Did the high tide take Adrian?
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All of the relevant facts are here, except for exactly who Rush and Carter are. If you'd like a little help, here's a hint: It has been discovered that Rex and Lynn were together when Rex lost the ring, and high tide is relevant
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Was someone swimming/surfing on a high tide? Not relevant
Did the wedding also take place on a seashore? No
Did the high tide take Adrian? No, the high tide didn't take anything, but...
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Did Rex intentionally lose the ring? So as to convince Lynn to marry sooner?
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Clarification: When the other relevant event happened, the tide had not yet fully come up to its highest point
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Did Rex intentionally lose the ring? No! The opposite!
So as to convince Lynn to marry sooner? He didn't have to convince her
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Were Lynn and Rex on the shore when the high tide came? when Adrian was building her sandcastle? when Rush and Carter came?
Did Rex fall down because of the tide and this is when the ring was lost? Did Rex and Lynn think that the tide took the ring and it's lost forever?
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Were Lynn and Rex on the shore when the high tide came? Probably
when Adrian was building her sandcastle? when Rush and Carter came? No, they had gone by then
Did Rex fall down because of the tide and this is when the ring was lost? YES - the first unexpected event!
Did Rex and Lynn think that the tide took the ring and it's lost forever? YES

Before I $poil, does anyone want to figure out how Rush and Carter fit into the story?
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I will try to figure it out.
Were they tourists who visited seashore? Did they have any business to do on a seashore? Did they come to the seashore at purpose? Or just by the way?
Were they photographers?
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I will try to figure it out. I had hoped someone would, and you've done so much work already...
Were they tourists who visited seashore? No
Did they have any business to do on a seashore? Yes, you could say that they did
Did they come to the seashore at purpose? Yes
Or just by the way? No
Were they photographers? No (but you may be OTRT with this idea)
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Is time of a day relevant to their activity on the seashore? Were they painters?
Did they both have a purpose to come to the seashore? Or just one had to come and other accompanied him? Were they actors? Otherwise connected with movie industry? Were they artists?
Were they marine biologists?
Did they come to the seashore for beautiful landscapes?
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Is time of a day relevant to their activity on the seashore? Somewhat, yes (they wouldnt be there at night)
Were they painters? No
Did they both have a purpose to come to the seashore? Yes, and more specific than just the seashore (see the puzzle statement)
Or just one had to come and other accompanied him? Both were there for the same purpose
Were they actors? Otherwise connected with movie industry? Were they artists?
Were they marine biologists?
Did they come to the seashore for beautiful landscapes? No to these
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So they came specifically at a castle, not only at the seashore...
Did they visit only that one castle? Were they a jury in the sandcastle-making contest?
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So they came specifically at a castle, not only at the seashore...
Did they visit only that one castle? No, many others, because...Were they a jury in the sandcastle-making contest?...yes!


***** SPOILER *****

Rex and Lynn were in love and both planned to marry the other, but they were not actually engaged. Lynn and her family lived near the ocean, so Rex planned a "surprise wedding" in her town, and let her family and his family know that he planned to go to the shore with Lynn, propose to her by the ocean and get married just two days later. The wedding was set, and Rex knelt by the ocean to propose to Lynn. Of course she said, "Yes!", but just then a powerful wave came in, knocking Rex off balance and causing him to drop the ring. They both looked frantically but could not find it. They planned to go ahead with the wedding anyway. Two days later, Adrian and many other people were participating in a sand castle contest. Adrian just happened to be building her castle at the spot where the ring had fallen, and she found it while digging in the sand. She set is aside and kept working. Soon, Rush and Carter, the contest officials, came by to check on Adrian's progress. Adrian commented casually that she had found a "real treasure" and showed them the ring. They had heard from the lifeguard that someone had lost a ring nearby, and they were to be married at a nearby church that very day. Rush rushed to the church and arrived just as the ceremony was starting - both families had arrived and everything was ready except the engagement ring was missing. Rex and Lynn didn't want this to delay the wedding, so they planned to get another ring later. Rush came in and got everyone's attention by announcing "I have the ring!" So the wedding was very briefly paused while the ring was returned to Lynn, and then it proceeded and they lived happily ever after.


Great work especially by Redwine on this one!
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Lovely puzzle with a happy ending. Thanks Ixoye.
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Excellent puzzle!

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