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At a college orientation session for newly arrived freshman, a speaker gave some well-intentioned but really stoooopid advice. What was it??
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Does this happen in the US? 21st century?

Was the speaker a student? a member of the teaching staff? an alumnus? a famous person?

Was the advice related to classes? exams? studying? social life? roommates? parties? extracurricular activities? relationships? money? work?
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Does this happen in the US? yes 21st century?\b { 20th in fact, but it would work just as well for the 21th}

Was the speaker a student? possiblya member of the teaching staff? less likelyan alumnus? noa famous person? no

Was the advice related to classes? no exams? nostudying? nosocial life?\b{ yesish or yope} roommates? no parties? noextracurricular activities? yesish relationships? no money? nowork? no
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Hobbies relevant? sports? getting to know people?

Is the advice stupid from a student's point of view? a teacher's? a parent's?
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Hobbies relevant? not specificallysports? dittogetting to know people? yesish

Is the advice stupid from a student's point of view? yes, if the student thinks it overa teacher's? dittoa parent's? ditto
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Was the advice to participate in as many activities as possible, in order to get to know the maximum amount of people?
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Was the advice to participate in as many activities as possible, in order to get to know the maximum amount of people? no, although that is pretty stooopid advice, esp. if offered on a one-size-fits-all basis.
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My new roommate seems to be living according to that advice. She's taking four sports classes and two language courses, and last Tuesday, she brought home 23 "friends", half of which she didn't know the names of...

Anyway, back to the puzzle.

Was the advice a "do x" sort of advice? "don't do x"? "If you want to y, do x"?

Was the advice supposed to help the freshmen make friends?
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My new roommate seems to be living according to that advice. She's taking four sports classes and two language courses, and last Tuesday, she brought home 23 "friends", half of which she didn't know the names of... Ooh, isn't friendship wonderful?

Anyway, back to the puzzle.

Was the advice a "do x" sort of advice? see next answer"don't do x"? This is the most natural formulation"If you want to y, do x"?

Was the advice supposed to help the freshmen make friends? no
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did the advice relate to: lectures? coursework? working independently? studying? using the library? health? lifestyle? communications with others? computers? sleep? eating? drinking? parents? staff? shopping? plagiarism? money? washing? transport? clothing? insurance? safety of possessions? bodily safety?

was it stupid because it was too obvious to be worth saying? because it would be counterproductive? because it would encourage students to do something bad/wrong?
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did the advice relate to: lectures? no coursework? no working independently? no studying? no using the library? no health? no lifestyle? yes communications with others? yope computers? nosleep? no eating? nodrinking? no parents? possiblystaff? no shopping? possibly plagiarism? no money? no washing? no transport? noclothing? noinsurance? nosafety of possessions? possibly bodily safety? yes -- the most accurate answer

was it stupid because it was too obvious to be worth saying? nobecause it would be counterproductive? yes because it would encourage students to do something bad/wrong? yesish
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Did it have something to do with avoid being mugged? Being otherwise attacked? Or robbed in some way? If so, was the advice specifically about something not to do on campus?

Would the advice be stupid to give to anyone? Any young person? Any college student? Any student of this school specifically? Could it ever be helpful if followed in a reasonable way?

Did it have to do with safety in numbers? With cell phones?
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Did it have something to do with avoid being mugged? yesBeing otherwise attacked? yesOr robbed in some way? yes If so, was the advice specifically about something not to do on campus? no

Would the advice be stupid to give to anyone? yesish Any young person? irrel Any college student? irrel Any student of this school specifically? irrelCould it ever be helpful if followed in a reasonable way? noish, but you're ORT

Did it have to do with safety in numbers? noWith cell phones? no
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Trying to think of things I was told as a student...

To stay away from unlit areas at night? To stay away from another specific place? Another type of place?

Would the hypothetical attack occur while the person is walking? Driving? At home? In the dorm? With friends? With people they don't know well?

Would the advice work if partially reworded? Would the opposite of the advice work? Does the advice not work because it is given to a large number of people (sort of like telling a large group about a new restaurant that isn't crowded; it will be after you tell them all...)?
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Trying to think of things I was told as a student...

To stay away from unlit areas at night? no To stay away from another specific place? yes Another type of place? see previous answer

Would the hypothetical attack occur while the person is walking? possibly
Driving? ditto At home? no In the dorm? no With friends? possiblyWith people they don't know well?yes

Would the advice work if partially reworded?That depends on what counts as rewording. The substance of the advice would have to be changed. Would the opposite of the advice work? no Does the advice not work because it is given to a large number of people yope or noish (sort of like telling a large group about a new restaurant that isn't crowded; it will be after you tell them all...)? this example is irrel
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Some sort of training concerning sexual assault? How to prevent it? How to not do it? "Victim blaming" relevant?

If you've read the news about UConn lately, you'll see why I'm asking.
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On that line, is it the rather infamous piece of advice "Women need to stop spreading their legs like peanut butter or rape will keep happening till the cows come home," which was actually given to a UConn student by a police officer after she was raped?
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O_O A *police officer* seriously said that?! Cripes...
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Yes, and the AP is now reporting the police officer was female. Also, the student and three others have now filed a lawsuit against UConn in addition to a Title IX complaint, and three other students joined the latter as well. It's really messed up.
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Some sort of training concerning sexual assault? yope How to prevent it? yope How to not do it? no"Victim blaming" relevant? noish

If you've read the news about UConn lately, you'll see why I'm asking.
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On that line, is it the rather infamous piece of advice "Women need to stop spreading their legs like peanut butter or rape will keep happening till the cows come home," which was actually given to a UConn student by a police officer after she was raped? That's too stooopid to be in a puzzle!!
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So the advice could apply to avoiding sexual assault, mugging, or other types of attack?

Is the advice to stay away from a specific building? Or a type of building (e.g. cafeteria, parking garage, store)? Someone's home? From an area of town? From an outdoor location?

Is the advice dumb because you can't avoid the place? Because the danger could occur even if you avoided the place?
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So the advice could apply to avoiding sexual assault, mugging, or other types of attack? yes

Is the advice to stay away from a specific building? noOr a type of building (e.g. cafeteria, parking garage, store)? no Someone's home? no From an area of town? yesFrom an outdoor location? see previous answer

Is the advice dumb because you can't avoid the place? yesishBecause the danger could occur even if you avoided the place? no
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How specific is 'area': Suburb? Block? Street?

Is the 'area' the CBD, the golden mile, the town square or other central pedestrianised area?

Or does it relate to something like a park?

Is it a zone through which a student would necessarily transition to leave the university or acess a common facility?
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How specific is 'area': Suburb? noBlock? noStreet? no

Is the 'area' the CBD, the golden mile, the town square or other central pedestrianised area? no

Or does it relate to something like a park? no

Is it a zone through which a student would necessarily transition to leave the university or acess a common facility? no
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HINT: Find out just what part of the cir=ty students are cautioned to avoid.
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So they're definitely in danger when with people they don't know very well. Are these the people they're in danger from? Does the 'area' which the students are told to avoid influence the behaviour of people towards those they don't know very well?

Does the 'part of the city students are cautioned to avoid' exist in both large cities and sleepy college towns? Is it equally dangerous in both? Would this part of the city be found near its centre? Would students be wont to access it regardless of the college campus' location in the town/city?
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So they're definitely in danger when with people they don't know very well. Are these the people they're in danger from? Does the 'area' which the students are told to avoid influence the behaviour of people towards those they don't know very well?

Does the 'part of the city students are cautioned to avoid' exist in both large cities It's in most large US citiesand sleepy college towns? probably not in a really small & "sleepy" college town Is it equally dangerous in both? varies Would this part of the city be found near its centre? irrel & it varies Would students be wont to access it regardless of the college campus' location in the town/city? yope
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Does the function of the area have to do with transport? Is it a carpark or a road or an alleyway or something similar?
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Does the function of the area have to do with transport? noIs it a carpark or a road or an alleyway or something similar?no
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so is the advice: don't go to X? (where X is an area of town) or is it: don't go to X alone? don't go to X with someone you don't know well? don't go to X without taking a friend? don't go to X of you want to do Y?

is it stupid advice because it says to take a friend and the students don't yet know anyone? or it says don't go with strangers and the new students are all strangers to each other?

or is the advice; don't go to an area of town that you are not familiar with? which is daft for people who are in a new twon as they won't be familiar with any part of it?

is the relevant area of town somewhere people would go to meet people? to meet new sexual partners? is the advice stupid because it is somewhere that people would want to go on their own?
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so is the advice: don't go to X? (where X is an area of town) yesor is it: don't go to X alone? nodon't go to X with someone you don't know well? no don't go to X without taking a friend? no don't go to X of you want to do Y?

is it stupid advice because it says to take a friend and the students don't yet know anyone? no or it says don't go with strangers and the new students are all strangers to each other? no

or is the advice; don't go to an area of town that you are not familiar with? no which is daft for people who are in a new twon as they won't be familiar with any part of it? no

is the relevant area of town somewhere people would go to meet people?no more than any other area to meet new sexual partners? ditto is the advice stupid because it is somewhere that people would want to go on their own? yesish
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earlier you said the advice was counterproductive: does this mean that, for some reason, giving people this advice will actually result in them being more likely to go to that area of town? or want to? or have to?

the reason a person might go to the area of town: for entertainment? for health reasons? to socialise? to meet someone? to buy something? to use a service? to sell something? to learn something? just out of general interest?
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earlier you said the advice was counterproductive: does this mean that, for some reason, giving people this advice will actually result in them being more likely to go to that area of town? noor want to? no or have to? no

the reason a person might go to the area of town: for entertainment? yes but that's not the main problem for health reasons? unlikely to socialise? yesto meet someone? yesto buy something? yes but that's not the main problem to use a service? ditto to sell something? unlikely to learn something? yes, but that's not the main problem
just out of general interest? ditto
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RECAP: Add the following to the puzzle description: The advice is, for reasons of personal safety, not to go to a certain part of the city.
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Bars relevant? Alcohol? Drugs?
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Bars relevant? Alcohol? Drugs?no to all
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is the advice stupid because it may have the effect of increasing their likelihood of being hurt? of someone else other than the addressed person being hurt?

is thr place a type of building? an area with a specific function? just general 'downtown'? is the area defined by its population?is it an area with residences? ethnicity of residents relevant? is it just 'the poor end of town'? wealth of residents relevant? the rich end of town?

are they being told not to go into wealthy areas because they are patrolled by security guards?

if the student went to that area would the threat of harm to them come from those who live there? those who work there? police? criminals? from those who go there with them?

would the harm come from those who are, in some way, protecting that area? or the people of that area?

is the area another college or educational establishment? would the potential harm come from students at a 'competing' college?

would the harm come from a person at all?
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is the advice stupid because it may have the effect of increasing their likelihood of being hurt? no of someone else other than the addressed person being hurt? noish

is thr place a type of building? no an area with a specific function? no just general 'downtown'? no is the area defined by its population? yesis it an area with residences? yes ethnicity of residents relevant? possibly is it just 'the poor end of town'? possibly wealth of residents relevant? yesthe rich end of town? no

are they being told not to go into wealthy areas because they are patrolled by security guards? no

if the student went to that area would the threat of harm to them come from those who live there? yes, supposedly those who work there? possibly police? no criminals? yesfrom those who go there with them? no

would the harm come from those who are, in some way, protecting that area? no or the people of that area? yes

is the area another college or educational establishment? no would the potential harm come from students at a 'competing' college? no

would the harm come from a person at all? yes
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Is the advice to not go to a specific place, e.g. a building? Or a specific area, e.g. the Latin/Hispanic/uptown/downtown/gay area?
\i(No slight is intended to any particular goupr here, just searching for the general type of categorisation)}
Or to a specific event, e.g. Fresher's ball?
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Is the advice to not go to a specific place, e.g. a building? noOr a specific area, e.g. the Latin/Hispanic/uptown/downtown/gay area? yes,but not any of those. You're ORT, though
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Or to a specific event, e.g. Fresher's ball? no
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Is the 'district' identified by the demographic make-up (the case with the suggested Latin/Hispanic/gay areas) or by activities conducted by those who work there (such as the red light district)?

Is the danger from actual criminals, or a socio-economic group largely perceived as criminals?

Ethnicity is 'possibly' relevant, and it could 'possibly' just be the poor district. Is there any one socio-economic factor that makes this place identifiable?
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Is the 'district' identified by the demographic make-up (the case with the suggested Latin/Hispanic/gay areas) or by activities conducted by those who work there (such as the red light district)? the former

Is the danger from actual criminals, or a socio-economic group largely perceived as criminals? the actual danger is from criminals of course, but the giver of the stooopid advice is probably stereotyping a demographic group

Ethnicity is 'possibly' relevant, I should have said 'yesish' here instead of possiblyand it could 'possibly' just be the poor district. Is there any one socio-economic factor that makes this place identifiable? yes
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Is it the poorest area of town? Most working-class/blue collar? The area with the most unemployment? An area where people with a certain job live?

Is it relevant which race is being stereotyped? If so, Black? Latino? Asian? White? A native population?

Is the advice stupid because some or many of the students belong to the same group being stereotyped?
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Is it the poorest area of town? yes Most working-class/blue collar? see previous answer The area with the most unemployment? see previous answer but one An area where people with a certain job live? no

Is it relevant which race is being stereotyped? somewhat If so, Black? yes Latino? noAsian? noWhite? noA native population? no

Is the advice stupid because some or many of the students belong to the same group being stereotyped? yope

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This...this might be the first time I solved a Nimue puzzle. My heart is happy.

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