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Psydkik (Psydkik)
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Posted on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 3:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Huntsman, native to Australia but showing up more and more often in the U.S., is credited with numerous deaths.

Why/how?
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Posted on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the Huntsman a HAM?
A product?
A concept?
Are the deaths accidental? Intentional?
Redwine (Redwine)
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Is the Huntsman human? animal? natural phenomenon?
Is the Huntsman credited for deaths in Australia? In the US?
Solo1 (Solo1)
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Posted on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 3:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A plant?
Psydkik (Psydkik)
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Posted on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 4:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yojimbo:

Is the Huntsman
a HAM? No
A product? No
A concept? No

Are the deaths accidental? Yes
Intentional? No


Redwine:

Is the Huntsman
human? No
animal? Yes
natural phenomenon? No

Is the Huntsman credited for deaths
in Australia? Yes
In the US? No idea - not relevant either way


Solo1:

A plant? No
Sleepingbeaver (Sleepingbeaver)
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Posted on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 7:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Deaths as in Deaths of humans?
Is the Huntsman venomous? (Isn't every animal in Australia?) carnivorous?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Posted on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 8:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Huntsman is a spider, IIRC? Is it coming to the US -- through cargo shipments? brought by individuals as pets? intentionally? unintentionally? When it comes to the US, is it alive? dead?
Psydkik (Psydkik)
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Posted on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 10:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sleepingbeaver:

Deaths as in Deaths of humans? Yes

Is the Huntsman venomous? Yes
(Isn't every animal in Australia?) Just about!

carnivorous? Yes


Kalira:

The Huntsman is a spider, IIRC? Correct

Is it coming to the US -- through cargo shipments? brought by individuals as pets? intentionally? unintentionally? When it comes to the US, is it alive? dead?
Probably either dead or alive and mostly unintentionally through cargo, but it's really completely irrlevant how they come to the US (or even that they come to the US at all) - that bit was just a bit of padding in the question. For the purposes of this puzzle, you're only trying to work out why/how they are 'credited with numerous deaths'.
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Posted on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 11:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the Huntsman lurk unseen in dwellings, and bite humans when disturbed [defensively], or does it lurk and attack [aggressively]?
Are human deaths caused by indoor spider bites, or in some other habitat - such as the spider's?
Does the Huntsman build webs?
Would the why/how be easily dismantled by resorting to Google? [either way, I won't]
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Are the deaths incurred as a result of or in the process of people exterminating the huntsman spiders?

As a result of or in the process of people running away from the huntsman spiders?
Psydkik (Psydkik)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 9:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yojimbo:

Does the Huntsman lurk unseen in dwellings, and bite humans when disturbed [defensively] It can do, yes
or does it lurk and attack [aggressively]? No

Are human deaths caused by indoor spider bites No
or in some other habitat - such as the spider's? No

Does the Huntsman build webs? No

Would the why/how be easily dismantled by resorting to Google? [either way, I won't] Fairly easily, I imagine


Widardofnz:

Are the deaths incurred as a result of or in the process of people exterminating the huntsman spiders? No

As a result of or in the process of people running away from the huntsman spiders? Nearly
Redwine (Redwine)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 2:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do people die from fear when they see Huntsman spiders? Do frightened people do stupid things and this results in deadly accidents?
Do other people use Huntsman spiders to kill other people?
Do people try to get rid of Huntsman spiders in a relevant way that causes deaths?
Psydkik (Psydkik)
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Redwine:

Do people die from fear when they see Huntsman spiders? Not quite that bad!

Do frightened people do stupid things and this results in deadly accidents? Yes...

Do other people use Huntsman spiders to kill other people? No

Do people try to get rid of Huntsman spiders in a relevant way that causes deaths? No


In many situations, the Huntman just causes the human to shriek and run away or stand on the table, or get out the spider spray, or whatever. But in one specific situation, it has a tendancy to result in death. Can you work out this specific situation?
Redwine (Redwine)
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I imagine people trying to burn a spider... Is this OTRT?
If not, do the deadly accidents happen at home? Outdoor? Do people run away straight onto a busy street? Stand on something less solid than they think it was? Jump from the window?
Psydkik (Psydkik)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Redwine:

I imagine people trying to burn a spider... Is this OTRT? No, that's mean! OTWT ;-)

If not, do the deadly accidents happen at home? No
Outdoor? Not quite

Do people run away straight onto a busy street? OTRT

Stand on something less solid than they think it was? No
Jump from the window? No
Biograd (Biograd)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 5:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe when people find them in their car, while driving? Are they scared to the point that they lose control of the car?
Psydkik (Psydkik)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 5:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Biograd:

Maybe when people find them in their car, while driving? Are they scared to the point that they lose control of the car? They are indeed - at least some of them!


***************Spoiler***************

Australia has more than its fair share of nasty bitey poisonous 8-legged beasties, such as the funnel-web and the redback spiders, both of which are able to kill a human being but neither of which have succeeded since anti-venoms were developed in 1981 and 1956 respectively.

The Huntsman is a big scary-looking Australian spider which can grow to the size of your hand. It's venemous, but its venom is pretty mild, and not strong enough to do anything much to a human being, and it's not aggressive anyway. So really it's a big, scary, but harmless spider. Better than that - it eats nasties like cockroaches and even deadly redback spiders. So it's kind of a friend...

...until you're driving at 120kph down the highway and one of them, disturbed from its dreamy sleep behind your car's sunvisor, drops on to your lap to have a wander around. At which point the rational knowledge that it can't harm you is replaced by "AARGH! SPIIIIDER!! GAARHAR!", followed by you careering off the road, crashing into something solid, and ending up far more dead than the spider could have managed on its own.

http://pestcontrol.about.com/b/2012/08/29/the-huntsman-spider-deadly-but-not-poisonous.htm
http://fay.iniminimo.com/redback/redback_04.html
http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/journal/view-image.htm?index=8&gid=12006
Kalira (Kalira)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - 1:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

O.O HOW DOES A GIANT NOPE GET INTO YOUR CAR TO HAVE A NAP??? SORRY FOR YELLING, BUT I HAS A DEATHLY AFRAID OF NOPES.
Psydkik (Psydkik)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have no idea, but next time I go to Australia, I'm hiring a car with an airtight seal! ;-)
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 12:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I presented this to my son as a diversion while we drove home from a job, and he decided he's never going to Australia...

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